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************ Topic 36 Fri May 20, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 07:10 EDT Sub: geoworld a meeting place for GEOWORLD fans to exchange info, etc. 19 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 1 Fri May 20, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 07:28 EDT I have been reading old copies of GEOWORLD tonight and really miss it. I came too late really. My subscription contained ten issues, basically all the supplier had left in stock. I would like to get more of the issues as well as talk to people who still like the magazine. Are any of the contributors online here? Susan Puhn-Lamb, Peter T. Hughes, Conrad Tillman, Joe Bockley, Randy Winchester, or any of the other fine writers? There were a lot of great articles and stuff specifically GEOS to be found between the covers. I wonder how much ofproducts offered are still available from the creators? So, hopefully, here is an entrance ramp onto the information highway! :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 2 Sun May 22, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 21:30 EDT JB One of the things I've been doing in my RTC is rounding up some of these folks as guest speakers, and have a conference on Tuesday nights. Jim Butterfield, my last guest, is an example. Of course, I am also bringing in some new names on the scene such as Brian Crosthwaite, the editor of dieHard magazine. He will be in on May 31st. from 10 to 11:30 pm EST. Keep looking at Topic 50 in this category for upcoming guest speakers. I think you'll be pleased. In fact, one of the people you mentioned has expressed interest in coming in as guest speaker, but for the sake of dramatics, and that it is not confirmed I'll have to keep you in suspense. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 3 Wed May 25, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 02:07 EDT to Geo-Tim: Will keep my eyes open for news. . .would especially be interested in Susan Puhn-Lamb and Peter Hughes as guest speakers. In one of the issues there was ad for a GEOS Program Directory It is a comprehensive listing of Geos programs from all sources. Does anyone have this or is it still available from Peter Hughes? to CMD-Doug: Has CMD considered purchasing the rights to the Geoworld disks? It would be nice to have them available again. I know you are all busy expanding and producing Commodore World, Incidently a great new magazine, but this is something worth pursuing I think. anyway . . . keep up the good work! :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 4 Wed May 25, 1994 RHHAYDEN [Robert H.] at 08:05 EDT If I am not being redundent, how about somebody from "Those Designers"? Robert (That is, to chat about Geos. "Those Designers" sold a series of clip art. ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 5 Wed May 25, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 18:47 EDT We tried for some time contacting the GEOWORLD publisher, with no luck. I have a copy of the GEOS Program Directory around here somewhere, though I really don't know where offhand (it isn't wise to visit my office, you may never find your way out). ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 6 Thu May 26, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 06:25 EDT CMD-DOUG: I always tie an old telephone cable to the door knob when I start into my computer room and slowly let it out as I go deeper into the mess. One I accidently let go and was lost for hours. I kept ending up at my modem. Unfortunately, I couldn't phone home!!! If my wife hadn't come looking for me, I might have starved. I never let the kids go in without a guide and ssupplies for seversal days. Do you remeber how big the directory was? Have you been in contact with Peter Hughes lately? If you should run across the directory, could we work out an arrangemnet for a copy? If I could get a current address, I >would try to contact Mr. Hughes myself. Itried to call Susan Puhn-Lamb at A phone # listed in C. Gazette and got someone else. The phone company charges for directory assistance which makes a number hunt costly. I was hoping you might have contacts with some of the people and knowledge as to whether they were still in the Commodore business. At any rate keep up the good work. Talk to you later JB :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 7 Thu May 26, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 23:44 EDT It was quite a few pages as I recall (the directory); maybe 20 or so. I'll have to locate it and check copyright info before committing to making a copy for anyone. I haven't talked to Peter or Paul for well over two years; I don't believe I have their phone number in any of my current records. It's been about the same amount of time since I spoke with Susan as well... folks were having a lot of trouble getting anything from her at that point; so I suspect her interests were elsewhere. Peter and Paul appeared to pretty much drop out of things after a death in the family, as I recall. I believe that was part of what brought GEOWORLD to a halt, as the publisher had grown to depend on them for production of the publication. ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 8 Fri May 27, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 06:29 EDT DOUG: I believe their father died. Susan, Peter, and Paul were all very much envolved with much of Geoworld at that time. One of their main advertisers and contributors Mystic Jim died about that time also, I think. That can take the soul out of a project in no time. Do you have any of the disks? I was wondering how they compare to the magazine. Are the magazines around or are people holding on to them like I am and wanting more? I'll write to the address furnished in Geoworld for Sosan and Peter and see if I get a response. I'll let you know what I find out. These people were such an important part to the GEOS community for a long time, it's a shame to let them disappear without an attempt to talk with them directly. Mystic Jim had quite an "empire" out there at one time. Is anyone on Genie who was directly envolved with he and his wife. By the time I got my magazines, he was already sadly gone. It took me awhile to find out on Q that he had passed away. :( Thanks foe your commitment to the GEOS community! JB :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 9 Wed Jun 01, 1994 RHHAYDEN [Robert H.] at 05:04 EDT I would really be interested in hearing from Susan Lamb. I remember seeing a sample of her work (Geos icons?) and it was great! Robert ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 10 Sun Jun 05, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 00:51 EDT a lot of her work both graphics and fonts can be seen on the RUN magazine Power Paks 1 & 2 and Companion disks. She is definitely an artistic presence in the GEOS art world. JB :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 11 Tue Jun 07, 1994 C128.JBEE at 01:31 EDT > J.BUTLER13 > Susan Puhn-Lamb, Peter T. Hughes, Conrad Tillman, Joe Bockley, Randy > Winchester, or any of the other fine writers? I do not believe any of them have GEnie accounts. Joe Buckely is on CIS. ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 12 Tue Jun 07, 1994 RHHAYDEN [Robert H.] at 05:13 EDT JBEE, Maybe I should start a new topic, "Desperately seeking Susan"? ;) Robert ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 13 Wed Jun 08, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 07:29 EDT JBEE, Thanks for the info. :) My next step is to try calling Susan in Yuma. I will have to use directory assistance :(. I have an address for Peter Hughes from a GEOWORLD. I will start there and keep you informed if you are interested. f the subject, but . . . Has anyone heard from Paul Murdaugh? I really like Dualtop and would like to get version 3. There was a posting in one of the topics somewhere but I don't= remember where. See you on the weekend. JB :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 14 Wed Jun 08, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 22:02 EDT I've been trying to get Paul, we had planned to have him as a guest speaker in the Tuesday RTC. I understand he has turned Dualtop and the Landmark series to other interests. We may still have some kind of conference on it, so stay tuned. As far as, some of the other names mentioned, I'd appreciate any info for contacting them. I am trying to get quality guests speakers in the RTCs, and so far we have been pretty successful I think: Maurice Randall, Jim Collette, Tom Netsel, Fred Bowen,Jim Butterfield,Nick Rossi, and the latest guest, Brian Crosthwaite from dieHard have been here in this series of conferences. The next conference is Steve Main from GeoWorks on June 21st.. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 15 Wed Jun 08, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 22:12 EDT I was informed from a reliable source that Paul Murdaugh was experiencing some emotional setbacks. I sent him a disk of programs to upgrade to work on 4 drives and he cashed my check and never sent the upgrades. The source is working on acquiring the rights to DualTop and is planning to provide support once all legal matters have been resolved. I don't have permission to give his name right now(he wants to get everything finalized first). He is also waiting for Paul to send all the stuff he needs so he should be ready to go soon. (Hopefully.) ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 16 Sat Jun 11, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 06:19 EDT Hope Paul gets everything straightened out. His Dualtop was one of the greats in my opinion. Being able to compare two lists of files on two disks is a handy tool. Yes, hopefully we will see Paul at a RTC and Dualtop available again. Tim, I called Peter in Canton and left a message on his answering machine. I specifically asked about GEOS Program Directory and its availbilty. I realize he probably wouldn't bother to waste long distance for that information so I'm sending letter soon. Will ask about GeoWorld and whether he is still interested in Commodore. I will put in a word about your RTC if you would like for me to do it. Susan Lamb is no longer listed in Yuma phone directory. Either business or home. Will probably try mail route next. Yes, we are "Desperately Seeking Susan" LOL Will get back with you. JB :] ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 17 Sat Jun 11, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 23:13 EDT I have a lead on Susan, hopefully it will pan out. A freind of mine is in contact with her, so who knows.:) Yes, I am always interested in help, just Email any information on guests you would like to see in an RTC, and I will follow it up. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 18 Sun Jun 12, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 02:36 EDT Tim Outstanding!!!!!!!! I meant to say earlier that your RTCs are first rate. I work nights so I just download the transcripts but nonetheless I enjoy reafding them. It is great to be in contact with the people suppoerting our 8-bit paradise. :] reading. . .supporting Keep up the good work!!!!!!! JB :] ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 19 Sun Jun 12, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 09:18 EDT Thanks. All of us involved: THE.OUTLAW who captures the conferences and edits them, C128.QT PIE who helps do the behind the scenes work, all the guest speakers, and Me, of course, are happy to hear that folks are enjoying the conferences. We really enjoy putting them on. :) -Tim ------------ ************ Topic 37 Thu May 26, 1994 S.EYRSE [steve] at 22:07 EDT Sub: Directory Program for Geos ?? 17 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 1 Thu May 26, 1994 S.EYRSE [steve] at 22:09 EDT Here is a way to get a nice Directory set up for Geos. You need to DL Combiner by Nick Vrtis #13841 and GEOLIST by John F. Howard #6672 (there is a #13781 for 80clm ONLY that some of you might want to try.) You use the Geolist to put your various Geos disks directory to Disk. As with all Geos programs the more you can put into REU the better so Geolist lets you pick which drive you want it to list to. The program will let you either make a Disk File or send it to the printer. You get besides the files names the notes from the info box. Then use Combiner to make them into One big GeoWrite file. You can then use GeoWrite's search to find where on your disks things are. You might want to copy the disks name to the top to each of its pages. Geolist will only put it at the start of the file it makes. Then you can use the Header or Footer to put the date you did this to keep track of any updates. Dumping some files. Just use search to delete them. Adding stuff combine it into the file. As you can get upto 66 pages of stuff you have lots of room. Try it I think you'll like it. Steve: ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 2 Fri May 27, 1994 N.PHI [Toto] at 02:20 EDT Note from my own experience: If you use GEOS on RAMLink, running gateWay from a NATV partition, you can FORGET about using geoList. "#$%&!! ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 3 Fri May 27, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 06:09 EDT Steve: GEOLIST and Combiner are great programs! I have been using Combiner to help me assemble library description files of most of the C64 and C128 libraries here on Genie so that I can study the available programs more carefully before selection while off-line. The program works like a charm and has been very handy. I need to send Nick his user as soon as possible to keep the faith with our programmers. He has many good programs worth the download time and user fees. I owe him for MahJong also. Iyt is a great game. GEOLIST works great too. JB:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 4 Fri May 27, 1994 J.PACKARD [CAPRI] at 23:40 EDT The best GEOS directory program i've found in 5 Years is DirMaster by Kent L. Smotherman It used to be in the libs. but I heard someone bought the rights to all his programs when he went Amiga :( DirMaster will let you do anything with a disk directory including Output to geowrite file, Selective directories, output to printer ect. on most anything including ramlink I think. I'll have to check the Ramlink thing as soon as mine comes back from CMD :( FIND THIS PROGRAM if you want the altimate directory program....... ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 5 Sat May 28, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 01:21 EDT The only 2 drawbacks I have found with DirMaster is that (1) you must validate the disk when you are finished because sometimes the BAM may be damaged and (2) if you have geoSHELL, DirMaster will not read the external shell commands on the disk if you select the "view types" menu. As soon as it reads the filetype of a geoSHELL command, it crashes the system. I have found that the best directory sorter is MoveNSort by Dave Ferguson. It isn't as flashy as DirMaster but it works much better and you don't have to validate the disk after you use it. I believe that CMD has the rights to Dave's programs now, so they would be the ones to contact about it. BTW, MoveNSort is on the same disk as TopDesk. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 6 Sat May 28, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 10:15 EDT We do NOT have the rights to Dave's programs. We do sell a collection of his programs, but MoveNSort is not part of that collection. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 7 Mon May 30, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 03:20 EDT My apologies. When I saw the ad for the programs in Commodore World I guess I wrongly assumed you took over distributing his stuff. After all, we haven't heard from him or Dweezil in a long time. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 8 Mon May 30, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 13:20 EDT We talk to Dweezil regularly, though we're not quite sure what he says. :) Er... for those who don't know, Dweezil is Dave's dog. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 9 Mon May 30, 1994 J.ROBBINS16 [JBUS] at 14:44 EDT Dave & Dweezil are alive and well (I just got his Disk II in the mail) :) woof woof ;] ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 10 Tue Jun 07, 1994 C128.JBEE at 01:29 EDT > J.PACKARD > The best GEOS directory program i've found in 5 Years is DirMaster by > Kent L. Smotherman It used to be in the libs. but I heard someone bought > the rights to all his programs when he went Amiga > FIND THIS PROGRAM if you want the altimate directory program....... Parsec bought the rights to all of Kent's C-64/128 programs. This program will be available ONLY from Parsec on a GEOS utility disk. All of his programs are (have been) being pulled from the networks. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 11 Wed Jun 08, 1994 S.EYRSE [steve] at 00:37 EDT >Parsec bought the rights to all of > Kent's C-64/128 programs. >This program will be available ONLY >from Parsec on a GEOS utility disk. >All of his programs are (have been) > being pulled from the networks. ------------ So this raises a Question of who owns what. I purchased a disk from Kent long before he "retired" from the Commodore world. With it I "got the rights to the source code" to many of his programs. Including the source code for the final and revised Directory program. By that I mean I can include his code into any program that I write. That was the deal made upon buying the disk. So as I "own" large chunks of this code it would seem to me that I could come up with "new" programs that worked sorta the same way and post them and they would have to be made live as they are Mine not Kents or Parecs. I raise this only to start programers to think about what they want the final end of there work to be. Also to alert buyers of programs to make sure what they get has "total" rights. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 12 Wed Jun 08, 1994 C128.JBEE at 23:09 EDT My contract with Kent stated he was the sole owner of all his programs and sold all rights to his programs to Parsec, Inc. If you have a signed contract that says anything different than you should forward a copy to Parsec before releasing any programs or source code. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 13 Sun Oct 16, 1994 R.HARRIS1 [Randy Harris] at 05:05 EDT Two other GREAT directory programs for GEOS are called: ICONDIR SIDEDIR These will ONLY WORK UNDER GEOS 64, NOT 128!! :( But they print out a directory using all file icons, and file info!! One 'Page' of icons (8) across. SIDEDIR does the same thing only Sideways! They are worth the download!! ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 14 Sun Oct 16, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 06:00 EDT Well, now that Steve Eyrse has finally got GEOS 128, he can modify those programs to work on a 128. He has a knack for doing things like that. I look forward to what he will be coming up with in the future. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 15 Mon Oct 17, 1994 J.BUTLER13 [JB] at 06:56 EDT check out geologger in our libraries. nice C128 only program. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 16 Mon Oct 24, 1994 S.EYRSE [steve] at 00:45 EDT Ian I checked them both out and they work under 128. They also are writen in Forth a lang. That I need to figure out it isn't the normal ML of the commodore . But these two program do work with 128. The one thing that isn't real CLEAR is the numbers that are printed above the file type. They are the Track and Sector for the Data info of the application and Header. Which is something I found of great help. So DL these they work.. Steve:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 17 Tue Oct 25, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 01:58 EDT Whenever I tried to use those programs on a 128 I had a system crash. Now that I finally have a RAMLink(which I love almost as much as sex) I'll give them anothere try and see if they'll work for me. ------------ 6 ? ************ Topic 39 Wed Mar 02, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] (Forwarded) Sub: GEOCANVAS I'm starting a topic about GeoCanvas because I need some answers. 22 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 1 Wed Mar 02, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] (Forwarded) I have GeoCanvas 3.0. My system setup is as follows: A:1571 B:1581 C:2M BBG RAM configured as 5-1571 RAM drives When I use GeoCanvas, whether loading it from disk or from RAM, upon returning to the DeskTop(I use DualTop 3.0) and checking another 1571 section of RAM, I find the first two or three files are corrupted as well as that entire section of RAM. I get all kinds of bad BAM errors when I do a validate. Now I know to use GeoCanvas you have to have a RAM device because it uses a section of that RAM device. The funny thing about all of this is that I was a beta-tester for this program and was having problems with it in its test form also. Since Nate Fiedler is off Q-Link and was on here and now appears to be gone again, has anybody else had this problem and does anybody know how to contact him? I questioned him about this problem when he was on Q-Link but he couldn't help me because he doesn't have a BBG RAM but I am hoping he may have discovered some thing since then. Thanks for anyone's help. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 2 Wed Mar 02, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] (Forwarded) BTW the problems happen when using either GeoCanvas64 or 128. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 3 Wed Mar 02, 1994 T.GOSSER1 [PowerUserMag] (Forwarded) Its not Geocanvas I know. I too was a beta-tester of both versions. I have a Ramlink, FD 4000 and HD 40. And I havent encountered any problems such as yours. And I have used GC extensively. I would be more inclined to suspect Dualtop! That is one buggy desktop. I use the GateWay. Try using another desktop and see if your problem doesnt disappear. It is also possible that your BBG RAM is faulty. You need to run a memory checker on it to verify reliable operation. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 4 Wed Mar 02, 1994 D.PFAFF [Beowulf] (Forwarded) Just out of curiosity, did Nate fix the off-center screen of GC? I Beta-tested the first version, and under GateWay128v2.5, the GC screen was off-center in the taller view mode. Nate has since disappeared from the C= world, from what I understand, and I am curious if this fine program was ever fixed of this "bug". ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 5 Thu Mar 03, 1994 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) Has anyone gotten GeoCanvas to work with the BBG RAM? I was under the impression that GC and other programs like it was looking for memory banks of the type you find in DACC partitions or REU's like 17XX. Did I misunderstand? Or is this true? I do know that GeoCanvas is worth it, if you only use Scrapcan. It is great! :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 6 Thu Mar 03, 1994 J.PACKARD [CAPRI] (Forwarded) I to use/have GC128 and also use Dualtop v3.0 and the BBG and have had no problems. the only difference is i have my BBG setup as 2 1581's instead of 5 1571's . Are U using the 64 version or the 128 version? try configuring your BBG as 2 1581's and let my know what happens! If that doesn't solve it I'll duplicate your setup and see if i have the same problem.. Thanks Jim ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 7 Fri Mar 04, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] (Forwarded) In response to the previous posts: I have ran the memory verifier and that was not the problem. I will try to use an alternate desktop like TopDesk(ecch!), the desktop,or even QwikTop. I just got geoSHELL and I'll try that one too. I will also try reconfiguring my RAM(Why didn't I think of that?). I would just hate having to reload all that stuff stored in my other partitions. I use GEOS 64 occasionally but not as much as I used to. Jim, it would definite- ly be interesting if you tried my configuration. Please if you can, try it and let me know what happens. From what I understand when Nate released GeoCanvas, there were supposed to be different variations depending on the type of equipment one had. Maybe I got a version that work with a RAMLink or something. Thanks for the help everyone!! When I finish playing with geoShell I will get back to you on what happened. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 8 Sat Mar 05, 1994 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] (Forwarded) Well I sat down and reconfigured my BBG RAM as 2-RAM 1581's. GeoCanvas seems to work fine with no corruption of files under this configuration. I would still prefer to have it set up as 5-RAM 1571's so I can easily switch between GEOS 64 and 128 with a minimal loss of files. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 9 Sat Mar 12, 1994 L.SCHONDER [C128.LOU] (Forwarded) Does geoCanvas 128 fully replace geoPaint 128? Are graphics backwards compatible? ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 10 Sat Mar 12, 1994 T.GOSSER1 [PowerUserMag] (Forwarded) Graphics are compatible either way. geoCanvas does not "fully" replace gp 128 or 64 for that matter. GeoCanvas does not have the text scrap handling capability that gp has. I do not know if this was intentional or not, you may not need it. But I like to import text scraps into my paint documents at times. Except for that, gc can fully replace gp! :) Tom ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 11 Sat Mar 12, 1994 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) I don't have GeoCanvas and have never seen it in person, but I might be able to provide a little insight here as to what is happening with the BBG rams and it might also pertain to other applications that operate in a similar manner and also on other devices other than the BBG. I do know that GeoCanvas needs 64K of memory from you ram device to work with. So, it looks in the kernal at some pointers and finds your ramdisk and the location in the REU, or in this case the BBG, where it begins. GEOS itself, always uses the first 64K. A RAM1571 normally begins at the second 64K and requires 6 of these 64K blocks to operate in. The 6th block actually is not completely used. This leaves the 8th 64K block free. GeoCanvas looks for a free block and tries to determine what is being used. The problem you have here is that when you are using partitions B, C, D, or E on the BBG ram, this pointer is pointing at a location higher up in the BBG. So GeoCanvas thinks that some of these lower 64K blocks are not being used. So, what does it do? It makes use of the second block. Well, the 1571 drivers begin saving data to track 1 and work their way on up. This means that when partition A is being used, the first 64K block gets filled first. So, the first few files that are saved to this partition will inevitably get trashed. If a RAM1581 is getting used, it starts saving its files closer to the middle of the area. So, the first 64K block won't get used until you get the partition nearly full. This explains why a RAM1581 might not seem to be bothered. One trick you could pull here with the RAM1571s is to copy some dead weight into the partition first, after beginning with a completely empty partition. Be sure to copy about 64K worth of files or more. True, you will lose some space, but you are going to lose some stuff anyway. You will not be able to run GeoCanvas from partition A due to this. It will look above the first 8 64K blocks and might do something you won't want done. Another cure and until a patch is written to do this for you, geoSHELL users can fix the problem right now. All that has to be done is to move all 5 partitions up by one 64K block. This way, nothing is using the second block and GeoCanvas will always have this for itself. One of the members of my local user group has a BBG ram. I will test the method I have in mind and then post the info here for you after I know that it works. It would basically involve using the 'mem' command to move the pointers in memory, reformat the partition and then save it in the form of a geoSHELL command using the 'learn' command. You would do this with each partition. Then you would rename each of these new commands with a name that stands for the partition it goes with such as parta, partb, partc, etc. Then you use geoSHELL to change partitions instead of the utility that came with the BBG since it would put these ram pointers back to the original locations. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 12 Sat Mar 12, 1994 L.SCHONDER [C128.LOU] (Forwarded) Maurice, you amaze me. Are you taking advance orders of "Finally"? :) I'm convinced. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 13 Sun Mar 13, 1994 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) Gosh, Lou. That's great!!!Another GEOS user. We are all looking for FINALLY, but you have to realize----Maurice took Torture 101, and got an A <g> :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 14 Wed Apr 06, 1994 J.HUFTALEN [dmax] (Forwarded) I see that CMD no longer carries Geocanvas 128. How can I get a copy? Thanks. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 15 Wed Apr 06, 1994 T.GOSSER1 [PowerUserMag] (Forwarded) Send check or M.O. to: Nate Fiedler 5711 Mt. Pleasant Rd. Bernville, PA. 19506 :) GC 64 v3.0.......$28 GC 128 v3.0......$28 Both together....$43 Demo,tool notes...$3 GC 64 upgrade....$13 with old disk PA residents add 6% sales tax to total Please which version when ordering! :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 16 Sun May 08, 1994 R.KING53 [Ron] (Forwarded) Can you use geoCanvas on a 1 meg CMD Native partition on a RamLink or will it only operate with a regular REU? ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 17 Mon May 09, 1994 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) You can use geoCanvas on a Ramlink, but....you need to have a big enough DACC partition. That size is dependent on whether you have the first version or the second version of geoCanvas. The second version 1.02 I think, needed a larger DACC. I don't know off hand what it is right now, but mine is 1024 blocks. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 18 Tue May 10, 1994 L.SCHONDER [C128.LOU] (Forwarded) My DACC is as big as my REU, 512K. (2014 blocks) Am I overdoing it? I thought I had to mirror my REU. ;/ ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 19 Tue May 10, 1994 J.PACKARD [CAPRI] (Forwarded) You ARE OVERDOOING IT !!!! 1024 blocks should be sufficent for most EVERYTHING i'm aware of.... ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 20 Wed May 11, 1994 T.GOSSER1 [PowerUserMag] (Forwarded) To get geoCanvas,Switcher and geoWizard to all work togather my DACC is 2048 blocks. Anything less and switcher wouldnt install. ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 21 Mon Jun 06, 1994 J.HUFTALEN [dmax] (Forwarded) Does geocanvas work with Gateway? I can't seem to get it to work with gateway, only geos128. I have a HD40, Ramlink with one Native Part of 3Meg. I disabled switcher and my DACC is 1024, I think. Thanks ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 22 Tue Jun 07, 1994 T.GOSSER1 [PowerUserMag] (Forwarded) Increase your DACC. Go to 2048 and Gateway, Switcher and geoCanvas can cohabitate together peacefully. :) ------------ 6 ?