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------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 49 Thu Oct 14, 1993 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 02:21 EDT I received my letter. I was kind enough to send in the $50. It just basically says that because of some of the complaints and lack of support that the ZIP chip was being dropped in favor of a few other Commodore projects. Which, if successful, might bring the ZIP chip back onto the front burner for production. I have to say that I am disappointed. I would have really liked to see one. I would have been willing to order one sight-unseen if JBee could have used the money to make one. Unfortunately, there are limits to me capabilities. I can't do the cost of producing a production level product, so I can only be disappointed. Somewhat in Jbee, and somewhat in the Commodore community. Doc. ------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 50 Fri Oct 15, 1993 D.BURR at 00:37 EDT Interesting to hear Doc, I haven't been much on the C= scene in awhile, and I hadn't heard anything about the ZIP board in about 19 months. Now that I am back on GEnie I am sorry to hear that it didn't go over. I make relatively little per year myself, so GEnie is a big luxury for me, else I would have surely put in a few bucks at least. I am curious though; what were the complaints you mention? I don't see how anybody could complain about a product like a speedup board. If you need the speed, you buy it, if you don't, then you don't. What is there to complain about? Daniel ------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 51 Fri Oct 15, 1993 C128.JBEE at 02:18 EDT Someone who did not even have a deposit ! accused me of fraud. That is all I can say since I will be suing the individuals for libel. ------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 52 Sat Oct 16, 1993 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 06:51 EDT So I suppose this accusation must of been published somewhere? Doc. ------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 53 Sun Oct 17, 1993 E.FERNANDEZ5 at 13:59 EDT I'm sorry too. I was really looking forward to the ZIP chip, but I understand JBEE's problem. Hopefully in the future this could be a project again. Despite my 386 and 486, I stiil find it easier to "hack" on my C128. ------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 54 Mon Oct 18, 1993 D.BURR at 22:06 EDT Let me add my condolences as well. Rather ridculous to criticize a project that one hasn't even invested in. Now, I didn't put in $50 either as I live from paycheck to paycheck, but I wouldn't think I had a right to gripe then. Heh, it is funny how that works isn't it? People who do the least often complain the most... Well, here is hoping your newer ventures go over with less hassle! ------------ Category 2, Topic 12 Message 55 Mon Jan 24, 1994 C128.JBEE at 02:32 EST Another reason not to use slab construction. ------------ ************ Topic 13 Wed Oct 28, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Sub: New C-64 hardware :))))))))) New C-64 hardware from Rio Computers. 17 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 1 Wed Oct 28, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) New C-64 hardware from Rio Computers. Consider this more a "leak" than a product announcement ;) (he said I could offically "leak" this to you and anyone interested can leave there name here). RIO will also have a product support section here on GEnie :) Once we get his account set up and category started you can post messages on the BB to him. The new product is a REAL genlock for the C-64 (and if enough people are interested a C-128 RGBI -> NSTC genlock). The cost will be under $300, come with titling software, and will out perform any dedicated titling machine. This is just a "tip" of the iceberg when you hear what he has to offer ;) Some of you may have remembered my post about the C-128 RGBI->NSTC a while back, I must have been a reason forasking it ;) Now this is a TRUE high quality genlock suitable for cable operators and such or someone who wants to run characters or C64 video (animations) onto tape for broadcast. You guys probably don't know this but we have C-64 users that use their C-64s for public access cable right here online. Remember, you heard it first on GEnie ;) ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 2 Thu Oct 29, 1992 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) At the risk of sounding ignorant ;) What is titling software? Mark ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 3 Thu Oct 29, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) To put "titles" for movies and pictures over the screen, to put scrolling messages at the bottom of pictures. Say you are in the middle of a program being broadcast and the oil refinery in the town over blows up, at the bottom of the screen you could insert over the currently running program "air pollution just got 110% worse ..... details at 11:00" ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 4 Thu Oct 29, 1992 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) OUTSTANDING!!! Howie ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 5 Fri Oct 30, 1992 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) Ok, now I understand ;) Thanks JBEE! Mark ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 6 Fri Oct 30, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) A Genlock - ___cool___! This is great. People'll go nuts over this one, I predict. Just the thing for cable operators and the like - all you need for titles is a C=64! And think about the possibilities of adding titles, cheesy special effects, etc. to home videos... I wish I'd had this back a few years ago in college when we tried to produce a video "Nerds in n-Space" as a dorm skit! Genlocks, hard drives, high density drives, scanners, RAM drives... who says the 8-bit commies aren't keeping up! -Rob ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 7 Fri Oct 30, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) We keeping up at lower cost ;) ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 8 Tue Jan 26, 1993 G.CORREA [Keith] (Forwarded) It being January, is there any new information available...? Also, a friend of mine is interested in the HandyScanner, also put out by this company- is it still available? (With RUN went my #1 source for finding out what's available via all the ads...) ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 9 Tue Jan 26, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Hi Keith :) I will be updating RIO's area with new information and they are also offering a VCR tape for around $7 showing what you can do with the Ultramedia stuff. (refundable on an order) re:ads Not to worry, a whole batch of ads for new stuff in the TC-128 I am sending you :) Both RIO and I still sell the handyscanners. If your friend doesn't buy the handyscanner from me I will slip a cybermat into your next box of tapes ;) ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 10 Sat Oct 16, 1993 C128.JBEE at 04:15 EDT RIO's comGen 64 is done and guess who gets the 1st one to review? ;D It is *way cool* and I should have the production unit by next Friday. These units will require a C-64, though there are plans for a C-128 (in C-64 mode) version. All the User Groups I sent VCR tapes to about the comGen, just keep them and do not bother to keep passing them on. RIO also has new font and picture disks for the HS64 and Pagefox. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 11 Sat Oct 16, 1993 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 06:53 EDT I got a demo tape from them on this product. My major complaint was that its effect generator (an extra cost item) would do wipes and things only within the confines of the 64's border. This is quite annoying to have a transition with the 64's border getting in the way either showing the picture through or being a different color. Unless this little bug has been worked out on the production model. Doc. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 12 Sat Oct 16, 1993 C128.JBEE at 22:37 EDT I believe you might be able to do wipes and such with PD software vs. the special effects module. You should also be able to display any C-64 graphic and place it over the VCR video signal, though any black color will be not transfered. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 13 Tue Oct 19, 1993 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 04:07 EDT I relize that it keys out Black. Buying the effect's modual wasn't my complaint. Simply that in the demo tape it appeared that the effect's modual didn't overcome the problem of the border. So if you were doing a wipe and you had a black border, the middle of the screen would have the effect, but the edges would retain the original picture (or else you have a colored border around every effect you do). Doc. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 14 Tue Oct 19, 1993 C128.JBEE at 05:38 EDT Okay, now I understand what you meant and now I know what to test :D When I use the Videofox I always set my border to the screen background color because the effects look better that way. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 15 Thu Oct 21, 1993 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 04:02 EDT Yes, but that means all the effects still happen within the border, even if the border is invisible. This new system, since it is hardware based, should overcome that problem. I'm hoping that an update of the software is possible. I know that many people have been turning the border two different colors using raster interrupts. If you could fine control that in a pattern, you could overcome that problem and do a wipe across the enire screen. Doc. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 16 Sat Oct 30, 1993 C128.JBEE at 17:24 EDT >D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 04:02 EDT >Yes, but that means all the effects still happen within the border, even if You mean only on the viewable part of the screen (the 320x200 pixel area) and not inside the border itself (raster area), I will let you know. UPS almost lost the genCom64, sent it to Salem, NH :P Got it back though and it looks pretty nice. Though mine is not a production unit, it still looks very clean and the PC board is layed out nicely. Manual needs some work and I have to get the format of the files so utilities can be written, but all and all, it looks like it is going to be a very nice product. ------------ Category 2, Topic 13 Message 17 Sun Nov 07, 1993 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 16:02 EST Yes, that's what I mean. At least that is what appeared on the pre-production demo tape. It's possible that they may have corrected the problem. As I said the demo groups have been doing raster interrrupts (2 r's rrrrr...) for years that would be perfect for this sort of device. Doc. ------------ ************ Topic 14 Fri Aug 06, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 06:19 EDT Sub: Eyeball to eyeball... It has been too long since we last talked eyeball to eyeball. 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 14 Message 1 Fri Aug 06, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 06:20 EDT We all ought to be more considerate of our eyes. I was cautioned a long time ago by someone who had the awful experience of having spent long periods working close to a monitor, only to later be told that, as a result, he now has permanent scaring and irrepairable damage to the retinas of both eyes. His advise for anyone spending any amounts of time before a monitor is: tinted glasses, WITH anti-glare, AND ultra-violet protective coatings. I followed this advise, along with his additional recommendation for the use of a tinted, polarized screen filter. It results in an outstandingly crisp screen, with minimal reflective interference, and no eye fatigue. He also suggested that the glasses receive periodic UV re-coatings since this tends to wearout with normal use. Considering that ones eyeballs must last for the duration, these all seem to be very reasonable precautions. Howie ------------ Category 2, Topic 14 Message 2 Fri Aug 06, 1993 C128.JBEE at 10:45 EDT Any fairly new monitor since the 80s radiates less UV than most background noise and is NOT a source of UV radiation. So getting extra coating on your lenses is a waste of money. There are also no studies done that show the coating has a substantial benefit for the normal person, especially indoors. Also, they charge $15 or more for a coating that costs less than $0.25 to apply, if that. ------------ Category 2, Topic 14 Message 3 Mon Aug 09, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 03:51 EDT On the other hand, outside the air is flooded with UV radiation all the time, from our friend the sun, so it _might_ still be worth it.... -Rob ------------ ************ Topic 15 Wed Jul 15, 1992 A.PEROTTI (Forwarded) Sub: Why do you use Commodore? Why have you chosen to stick with the good ol' 8 bit machines? 14 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 1 Wed Jul 15, 1992 A.PEROTTI (Forwarded) Some times when I look around me at the other computer technology available the I don't have, I start to feel sorry for myself. But then I remember that for the price of one those other systems I can buy a Commodore for each of my four kids! I think the bargain technology is the way to go! ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 2 Wed Jul 15, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Not to mention the C-64 has the largest installed base of ANY computer ever made. With 14 million or so C-64s out there you can't go wrong. Not to mention all the software :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 3 Thu Jul 16, 1992 M.DULSKI1 [Mark @WIZARD] (Forwarded) Am currently reading "Needful Things" by Stephen King. The story takes place in 1991 and guess what one of the main characters just bought his son? A new Commodore 64! That's the first time I've seen Commodore mentioned in a work of fiction. The 64's are still known. ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 4 Sat Jul 18, 1992 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) Well, I for one, don't adhere to any planned ideas about obsolesence. If it continues to perform the tasks for which you bought it in the first place, why change? Now that is not to say, that if some other machine will do something that our 8 bits cannot, that you may need, that you should go without. It really all depends upon what a user may require. Today, I am finding my 128 doing more things than I ever imagined it would do, and perfectly fine for me. And, speaking of the absurd... We were, wern't we...? I was recently involved in helping an Asian oil refinery find new replacement C64's to monitor its facility. They had been using C64's for years. However, the manager was now concerned that getting units repaired or replaced would no longer be possible. Any down-time would be very costly, and they got an estimate for ms/dos replacements at a cost of about $60,000.00. They were delighted to learn that brand new replacement and backup C64's could be purchased, to allow their present system configuration to remain. Howie ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 5 Sat Jul 18, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Yea, I was realy surprised to learn Exxon uses C-64s! ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 6 Sun Jul 19, 1992 AMFORD (Forwarded) National Institute for Petroleum and Energy Research also uses the C64's for controlling experiments and measurements. ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 7 Sun Jul 19, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) This is a "tidbit" from TC128 - issue #33 The American Leprosy Foundation uses C-128s to run the whole show, including accounting ... expanded details at 11:00 ;) ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 8 Mon Jul 20, 1992 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) I wasn't gonna mention names, but since you did, Yup! It *IS* Exxon. :) Howie ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 9 Tue Aug 04, 1992 J.PEEPLES (Forwarded) The CBM 8-bit computers are very solid technology. Once you learn the system, you know how to work it, and if you have a friend with one or go to someplace else with a similar system, you can instantly operate it, and even program it, like a pro. There may be a few flashy things they don't do quite as well or quite as fast as newer systems, but those newer systems don't do them quite as fast as, say, a Cray III... I am happy with my C128. Have thought many times about "upgrading" to a new system, but in each case have realized that I would be spending many many $$$ to add --NO-- new capabilities that --I-- would ever use, and I'd really be better off sticking with what I've got. And yes, CBM computers are still around professionally, as are even some of the oldest CP/M machines. I currently do not use a tenth of the potential of my C128. Why upgrade? ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 10 Tue Aug 18, 1992 A.MILLER46 (Forwarded) I mainly use my 128 to call Genie and write letters so why do I need a 486 to do that. It doesn't help my fingers mover any faster. Also the C64 is per fect for controlling mechanical systems as it is easy to interface and program so why go anywhere else. A lot of Telephone switches use CPM as the operating systmem so it is still usefull. ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 11 Sun Sep 13, 1992 P.KELLER5 (Forwarded) I have enjoyed my Commodore since my brother gave it to me about 4 years ago. I have upgraded to a 128D, 2 additional drives, printer, REU. The funny thing is that I never really started using a modem til only 2 years ago, and that was Q-Link only (my last day there will probably be at the end of Sept.). Then I used that dumb Common Sense until I joined a users group and got better and better programs to replace it. ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 12 Sun Sep 13, 1992 YLR.ROSE [* Mistress *] (Forwarded) Great PK! I also have a "D" and just love it.. there is just so much you can do with a C=.. and since joining GEnie.. I've found some GREAT C= folks here to help you with anything and everything... holler ifn ya need a question answered!.. you'll git lots of responses! HUGS ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 13 Mon Sep 14, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Welcome P.K. :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 15 Message 14 Fri Nov 05, 1993 R.SNYDER2 at 03:39 EST When people get you down ragging at you about your "toy" remind them that the PARS (Programmed Airline Reservation System) was written and run on a 64K computer. I will admit it took us a long while but we made it work. I am almost completely retired but I still do ocassional work as a consultant on their COMMODORE 64s & 128s for US West and the USAF. ------------ ************ Topic 16 Mon Aug 24, 1992 M.MINNIG (Forwarded) Sub: Free sample ribbons!!!! Inmac is giving away free samples of their "Black Pearl" printer ribbons! 10 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 1 Mon Aug 24, 1992 M.MINNIG (Forwarded) OOPS! Didn't clear my buffer first! ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 2 Mon Aug 24, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) :) I hate it when that happens! Even worse is when I compose several different replies in the 8 Dialogue128 RAM2 buffers, but then forget to switch buffers and upload the same reply in two places. There's always the option of killing your old message, editing the buffer, and re-uploading it.... -Rob ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 3 Tue Aug 25, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Anyone can delete their messages and restart with another one. Just type DELETE and follow the prompts. Of course you can't DELETE a message from someone else but I have found DELETE helpful, especially with those foot-in-mouth responses ;) ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 4 Sat Sep 12, 1992 M.MINNIG (Forwarded) The latest Inmac catalog has an offer of a free printer ribbon. Send them the following information: Your name Your "company name" Your address Your printer brand and model number A copy of any invoice for printer ribbons Write to: Inmac/FREE Ribbon Offer 2465 Augustine Drive Santa Clara, California 95054 Enjoy! ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 5 Mon Sep 14, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) For those of you who do not know, Inmac publishes a large catalog of office and computer related supplies and offers good service too. ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 6 Sun Sep 27, 1992 F.OGLE [Fred Ogle] (Forwarded) Howzabout a phone #, Jbee? :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 7 Sun Sep 27, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) lol - good idea! 1-508-745-9125 ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 8 Thu Oct 01, 1992 F.OGLE [Fred Ogle] (Forwarded) Thanks for that #, Jbee. :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 9 Fri Oct 02, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) You're welcome :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 16 Message 10 Thu Oct 08, 1992 M.MINNIG (Forwarded) Got my free ribbon today! Inmac's toll-free number is (800)547-5444. ------------ ************ Topic 17 Fri May 28, 1993 GULLIBLE [Jon] (Forwarded) Sub: New Pricing - Staying or Leaving? As I'm sure everyone knows, GEnie has announced New Pricing effective July 1. This will make the Commodore Flagship a better bargain at $3/hr, but there will be no more Basic*Services. I'm just curious as to how many will be leaving GEni 38 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 1 Fri May 28, 1993 GULLIBLE [Jon] (Forwarded) Don't know if this was the proper place to post this. I wanted to get the Opinions of others using Commodores 64's/128's about the New Pricing. Will you be staying or leaving? I'm probably staying. I'll miss the Basic*Services, but the Flagship will now be only $3 an hour which is cheaper than Q-Link. Are there any improvements for Wizard in the Works? The program is so limited. What about being able to save to the REU which could greatly reduce the time it takes to capture messages from a board. With the limited 8K buffer, so much time is wasted on disk saves. BTW, the Sysops may move this Topic if it is in the wrong place and edit the Topic description so it is more general. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 2 Sat May 29, 1993 YLR.ROSE (Forwarded) Jon.. download RTCMaster128.. :> it uses the REU up to 2 megs, and saves are SUPER fast.. :> Dont think any more improvements to Wizard are planned. Ed Bell wrote RTCM and he's making improvements on it all the time. Its in the library. Hugs ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 3 Sat May 29, 1993 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) Sounds like you are using Wizard 64, not Wizard 128? RTCMaster is for the C128 in 80 column only. I don't expect any improvements in either version of Wizard from the author, what we have is it. For the C64 you might try BELLTERM or NOVATERM, both are excellent programs. (they work at 2400 baud too ;) This new GEnie pricing is great! Let's see...under the old pricing, going online only 3 hours a month in say the libraries would be about $23 right? With the new pricing that same 3 hours would be about $18. Then there is something about "up to 4 hours free" each month. Don't quite understand how that is going to be set up, but it sounds neat! btw, I'll move this topic over to category #2 ;) Mark ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 4 Sat May 29, 1993 F.OGLE [Color 64 BBS] at 04:31 EDT My interpretation of the e-mail that I recieved was simple -- 4 hours of service FREE per month. This is probably being done to offset little things like e-mail, so while yes, you do have to pay for it, 4 hours of free time (for $9 a month) is very liberal indeed! :) Of course, My habits on GEnie will change, too (as will most everybody's), and I will be using text uploads, etc, instead of being lazy and typing it on the spot. My evaluation thus far is simply that the new system (hey, I'm not particularly fond of changes either!) will work as good or better for me, and I'm probably about a "Joe Average", as fas as usage goes. Also, services will expand in my opinion. Access to the Internet with no surcharge is one example I can think of! :::fingers getting tired::: ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 6 Sat May 29, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 09:08 EDT huh? 3 hours at the old pricing is $18 for me. And when the new pricing goes into effect that gets reduced to $9. Or, $3 per hour. This makes the Commodore 64/128 RoundTable, it Bulletin Boards, Libraries, and Real Time Conferences the best bargain around. Did I leave anything out? :) Howie ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 7 Sun May 30, 1993 CBM-MARK at 01:45 EDT Howie, I added in the monthly service charge along with the hourly connect fee. Still a bargain! Mark ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 8 Sun May 30, 1993 GULLIBLE [Jon] at 14:43 EDT Unforatunately, I only have a 64 and can't use RTC 128. I agree that that the new rates will make the Flagship a better bargain. Also, I plan on getting a 2400 baud modem before July and will be experimenting with Novaterm scripts. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 9 Sun May 30, 1993 C128.JBEE at 18:59 EDT >GULLIBLE [Jon] >Unfortunately, I only have a 64 and can't use RTC 128. Actually, you *are* fortunate ;) I will be giving seminars later in June about using GEnie and Commodore terminals to maximum advantage. For what it is worth, I expect very few of our RT members to leave and expect a BIG increase from other services. We will be expanding our RTC hours to reflect that change. I remember paying something like $12 an hour to access GEnie (I use to be a paying member in 86;) and I think $3.00 an hour is a great deal and affordable. With the bigger graphic files available for viewing, downloading, and converting, for active Commodore users I think this will be a big advantage. I think the only ones that will *really* leave and complain the loudest are those that forced a change in the flat rate service by making GEnie a life (style) by spending 100+ hours a month in Basic service and NEVER venturing to outside of the $4.95 a month charge. Just read some of the posts by people in Cat 1 Topic 49 of the GENIEus BB! Anyway, this change makes GEnie the leading value in online services for those that use their computer for something other abusing GEnie*Basic services. I LIKE that and that is my opinion. Also, someone earlier mentioned four free hours, they are four CREDITED hours plus the monthly charge. Also with these new rates, access by those in Canada becomes extremely affordable! ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 10 Mon May 31, 1993 A.PEROTTI at 22:26 EDT I am here to STAY! GEnie was a good bargain when I started here about a year ago, and it will be an even better bargain after 1 July. I'm looking forward to spending more time in the RTCs!!!!!! ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 11 Sun Jun 06, 1993 P.KELLER5 [Diesel II] at 23:15 EDT I will be definitely coming to GEnie more than ever with the new rates beginning July 1! With 4 hours of free time and $3.00 per hour aafterwards, it's gonna be even better for us in the Commodore areas! Now, after July 1, maybe we should get some of Q-Link's members to come over here! ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 12 Mon Jun 07, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 00:09 EDT We're seeing a lot of new people already Diesel! ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 13 Mon Jun 07, 1993 P.KELLER5 [Diesel II] at 23:24 EDT Great!! After the news spreads, you sysop guys and gals will have your hands & fingers full!! By the way, I found out from Q-Link how many members they still have. If you want to believe, they still have around 15,000 members! Sounds like the truth is added by a few zeros. I did found out there are people who got in a lifetime membership years ago ($150), so that could count for most of that amount. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 14 Tue Jun 08, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 02:45 EDT Wonder how many ACTIVE users they have? ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 15 Tue Jun 08, 1993 GULLIBLE [Jon] at 20:54 EDT That will be 14,999 come July 1st. :) I would stay on Q if they would offer the same pricing plan as they do their AOL Customers. But, pay more for less (err no) service? no way! At 2400 baud, GEnie will be the Q-Equivalent of $1.50 an hour. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 16 Tue Jun 08, 1993 B.WINKLER2 [BMW] at 23:21 EDT Refugee from Q here. The new pricing will allow more use on my part as I did not use basic service much. The only problem is the $2.00 per hour surcharge for the lack of a local node. Glad to see the 8 bits surviviing. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 17 Wed Jun 09, 1993 C.OGLE2 [breadstick] at 05:28 EDT I have been on both Qlink and Genie for a long time (in terms of C= years) and found they nicely complimented each other in terms of supports for our c C= commies, but with the management 'form letters' I keptt getting from the management from my complaints of the directories (over a 6 months period), I got fed up and finally dropped the service. The ironic s thing about it was... afterwards, I received a nother form letter, (only this one in the mail) from the management informing me of their displeasure that I left, but that I really ought to give AOL a try, since it's the 'i like an enc hanced version of Q-link'. How stupid do they think I am? I ou wouldn& 't didn't like the way they were running the first network (in the last year or two a , atleast), so why do they think I would wanto to put up with them on the parasite that has su helped suck the life out of Q. I hope this doesn't sound bitter or anything, because I really do wish them the best :> Geem , this message *s ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 18 Thu Jun 10, 1993 C128.JBEE at 14:50 EDT If you have a 9600 modem, sometimes using the 1-800 WATTS line is a better deal for downloading, capturing messages, and replying if you are accessing from Sprintnet etc. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 19 Sat Jun 12, 1993 RHHAYDEN [Robert H.] at 04:38 EDT Breadstick, Your message seems to be garbled. I plan to stay on Q-Link until they shut down (which should be any day now ;) ). But they won't see much of my "+" money, at least until they fix their problems. I'm real happy with GEnie's new price structure, I just wish they had a better command structure/system software. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 20 Sat Jun 12, 1993 GULLIBLE [Jon] at 11:43 EDT A now non-existing CraigB15 has been making posts on QLink saying Q will shut down on July 1st. I don't believe it, but at least one of his Q death messages was deleted. If it is not true, then Steve Case or someone else in upper management should post a public message assuring the members about the future of QLink. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 21 Sat Jun 12, 1993 T.ALLEN [Dynamite] at 20:10 EDT I agree with that!! Q-Link should tell all of the users that they will still be up and running and for how much longer they intend to be doing so. Otherwise - everyone will be thinking that they are going down. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 22 Sun Jun 20, 1993 C.OGLE2 [breadstick] at 02:37 EDT That is precisely why I left Qlink, because they would not announce anything publicly. Maybe the situation is changing for the management, or there are other more serious problems we aren't aware of, but I hate being kept in the dark when my money isn't going to good use... I still need to reply to this form letter I got from Steve Case telling me to try AOL... won't be saying anything very nice, that much I know. Scott ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 23 Tue Jul 06, 1993 P.KELLER5 [Diesel II] at 23:16 EDT I just had to say my views about the lowering of Q-Link. It is now past July 1st, and Q-Link is still there, if you call what's left of it. I have seen RabbitJack's Casino area being left empty, like the list of weekly highest winners, etc. Even Club Caribe is losing ground, not very many people going there. We all know Q-Link will leave soon, problem is when? Only AOL knows. ------------ Category 2, Topic 17 Message 24 Wed Jul 07, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 01:55 EDT Well, it will be interesting to see how they address the matter of the lifetime memberships. Or, maybe they have already? Howie ------------