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*************************************************************************** * This is one of a series of four files which consist of messages from * * the FlagShip bulletin board dealing with BobsTerm Pro, arguably the * * finest terminal program ever written for the Commodore 64 and 128. The * * material for the files was compiled on March 1, 1989, and includes all * * relevant messages from the inception of the FlagShip until that date. * * My definition of 'relevant' was fairly liberal; in some cases, * * messages which might otherwise have been irrelevant have been preserved * * in order to preserve continuity of the threads. * * * * The four files available are: * * * * BTP.FEATURES.TXT Description and implementation of many * * of the features, both basic and advanced,* * of both the C64 and C128 versions. * * * * BTP.MACROS.TXT Use of the extensive MACRO feature, in- * * cluding a discussion which culminated in * * a macro to provide DIRECT TO DISK capture* * from GEnie by way of macros and changes * * to the GEnie default prompt character. * * * * BTP.MODEMS.TXT Discussions of configuration of BTP for * * use with various modems * * (including 2400 baud), as well as dis- * * cussions of which modems will NOT work * * with the program. * * * * BTP.MISC.TXT Messages which did not conveniently fit * * into any of the other files. * * * * Notes: * * The messages contained in these files will shortly be removed from the * * bulletin board, merely to conserve space. Feel free to start new topics,* * discussing BobsTerm or any other subjects. * * * * Obviously, there is overlap between these topic choices. Messages are * * NOT repeated in other files; if you do not find what you are looking * * for, try the next most likely file. * * * * Bob Lentini is no longer working on Commodore computers, distributing * * the program, or operating his bulletin board. BobsTerm Pro (both the * * C64 and C128 programs) are available through many software vendors or * * Progressive Peripherals and Software, whose address is sprinkled * * through out these files. * * * * Enjoy! --Howard Rosenman <HORO> March 5, 1989 * *************************************************************************** Sep 29, 1986 D.RANELLI how about an address to purchase bob's proterm or smartterm --- Sep 29, 1986 DEBS-GUEST [MIKEM] D.RANELLI- BobsTerm Pro can be purchased through: Progresssive Peripherals 464 Kalamath Street Denver, Colorado 80204 (303) 825-4144 -Mike --- Apr 08, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] Ah, but you haven't lived until you have used Bobsterm Pro. This is one commercial program worth every cent it costs. Courtney --- Apr 12, 1987 JDCLARK Courtney, I was afraid someone would say that... I've gazed at that box while sighing. In any case I'm new to telecomm., and CommTerm works for now. Also, the box does not specifically state that it supports the 6480. Do you know this for sure? JDCLARK --- Apr 12, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] No...the manual doesn't say anything about it either. Maybe someone else knows. Anyone ??? Courtney --- Apr 14, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] BTPro does *not* support the 6470/80 modems...sorries, folks. Bob took one look at what it took to support the modems and laughed...<<smile>> I was there when he rec'd the stack of papers. However....Sixth Sense 128 should support that modem, or did last time I knew. You might check the demo of Sixth Sense in the Library. ((we ARE talking 128's here, right...?)) *deb!* --- Aug 04, 1986 GRAFIX.M [Mike Hooper] BTP64 Works at 2400 baud! Tried a link up thru a NULL modem to an Amiga and transfered real nice at 2400 baud! \\GFX// --- Nov 01, 1986 B.WESTER Deb, I just got bobsterm pro the other day, but when i tried I tried to log on here with it the modem s would not connect! I had it set for 1200 buad, half duplex,hayes modem. I would really like to use it but I can't find anything in the manuel about this problem! help!!*s --- Nov 03, 1986 GRAFIX.M [Mike Hooper] WEB'-- Is it dialing and you are not getting a carrier or won't it even dial for ya? I've had a LOT of trouble with DIALING with my Hayes at 1200 baud. My lo byte, baud rate factor is down so low that the modem has trouble with the commands with auto-dial. It works fine once I get on-line, but getting ther is the trouble. I found the easiest way out is to just goto terminal mode and just issue the ATDT####### from there. Works like a champ for me that way. Give a shout if that isn't the trouble! \\GFX// --- Nov 04, 1986 DEB [*deb!*] I, too, had a lot of trouble with my bTPro and 1200 baud. That baud rate factor has to be *perfect*. Web...let us know exactly what is happening, OK?? Also, which version are you using? there are two versions of both the 64 and 128 programs. *deb!* --- Nov 04, 1986 DEB [*deb!*] Another very important factor in making Auto Dial work is to have your carrier detect set properly!!! In the case of a HAYES modem and a VIC 1011/A - Saylor interface, you want the CARRIER PHASE to be a +. Look on the Parameters/MODEM menu... CARRIEr DETECT must be ON CARRIER PHASE should be + When you return to terminal mode, the status line should NOT have the inverted character on the carrier indicator. IF it does, use the switch on your modem to make that modem return only TRUE CARRIER status, in other words, if there is a carrier to your modem, then the modem will set that line high on your computer. If there is no carrier, then the modem does not supply carrier. When you have NO carrier, and you are properly configured, the status line will disply the time in regular letters, as well as the carrier indicator. As soon as you DO receive a carrier, the time will go into inverted characters, and start a NEW timer <<keeping track of your connected time exactly for you>> and the carrier indicator will also light up. The autodial does, of course, depend on being able to interpret whether you have a carrier. Now...the 1670 modem requires a CARRIER PHASE of - rather than +, which I think was discussed last week sometime, too. *deb!* --- Feb 01, 1987 D.RANELLI need help from someone with an Avatex 1200 modem I have bob's 64 verd sion 2. Its great, but I can't discover the correct settings ,either paramters or switch settinf gs to make it work if anyone can leyt me knp ow I wpi:d appreciate it --- Feb 02, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] D.Ranelli: just which Avatex modem do youhave, the HC or the 'plain' one? And what do you need to find out how to get BobsTerm Pro to work? ...In other words, what is not working? *deb!* --- Feb 02, 1987 KEVIN-S. [KeS] D.- Assuming that you have the "plain" Avatex, set all your dip switches on the back of the modem in the up position. Then, within BTP, go into the modem section of the parameters menu and set things up for a HAYES SMART MODEM, with the carrier phase set at "+". Then go into the RS-232 section of the parameters menu and set the baud rate to 1200. This should get you going! KeS --- Feb 03, 1987 D.RANELLI kevin or deb i have avatex 1200, BTP version 2.0 we can't get it to even dial what parameters should i set? what modem should I select? all my dip switches are up now the modem works because I am using it now. should we dial from the dial mode or the terminal mode? should we type in the Hayes commands, AT and then ATDT? your help is appreciated --- Feb 04, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] Set your modem type to HAYES compatible. Set your Carrier Detect dipswitch to the setting that 'follows true carrier'. Set the 'phase' on the Modem parameters to '+' When you are NOt connected, this should result in the words CARRIER up in the left hand corner of your screen to appear in regular characters. When you are connected, it will become REVERSED. You will want to read the section in the BobsTerm Pro manual which deals with 1200 baud 'fine tuning' very carefully, also. You can dial from the auto dial menu or you can dial from terminal mode. IF the modem is hayes compatible, and I don't really recall just how many or few commands the original Avatex supported, use: ATDT5551212 To dial...use ATDP for pulse/rotary dialing instead of ATDT. That should get you started...! *deb!* --- Feb 13, 1987 D.RANELLI hi, need help I am using Bob's term 64 2.0 with an Avetex 1200 modem whenonline to genie, I keep getting disconnected when I type in something or when i upload cananyone help??? thanks don --- Feb 16, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] D.Ranelli: Check your Avatex modem manual. there is a dipswitch at the back of the modem which controls DTR. Flip that switch the opposite way of the way it is now, and I think your connection troubles will go away. *deb!* --- Feb 24, 1987 D.R.WAGNER Help anyone HELP, I am using C-64 with 1670 modem and BOBS- TERM PRO. I have been unable to d/l from GEnie, when I try to d/l I see the first line of transmission repeat itself over and over again untill the d/l aborts, I suppose that GEnie is'nt getting the responce that it contin- ue, so if you can help please do so ASAP. Thank you Dan --- Feb 25, 1987 KEVIN.S Dan- Look at the Xfer screen off of your Parameter Set menu, and make sure that your CRC CHECKSUM choice is set to CCITT. KeS --- Apr 16, 1987 B.HAYFORD Help!: I am having difficulty dialing (through auto mode or directly from terminal mode - ATDP etc,etc) an 800 #BBS. I have tried varying the make, break, and digit times (slower and faster). I am using c128; single 1571 drive; smarTEAM 1200 bps modem; saylor RS232 interface; and BobsTerm Pro 128 v2.3. Other numbers (7 digit) seem to work ok. BTP 128 is set at the defaults as far as the hi & lo baud adjust go and that works fine for uploading and downloading. Any ideas???? Any help will be appreciated. Bert Hayford (b. hayford) --- Apr 16, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] Bert: try inserting a comma to insert a delay. Make and Break times won't affect a SmarTEAM, or any Hayes clone...but there ARE S registers which can be twiggled around. So, use in your autodial menu: 1,800,5551212 It could just be you're trying to send out more than your phone company can handle too fast. Also check over the S registers that deal with pulse dialing. <<ATS?=?>> *deb!* --- Apr 16, 1987 B.HAYFORD Deb: I have tried the commas to no avail. I gonna go try out the S registers to try to twiggle it right!!! Thanks - Bert --- Apr 17, 1987 B.HAYFORD To get back to BT128: No joy on 'adjusting' the S registers. There doesn't seem to be an S register that affects pulse dialing (oh for touch tone!!!!). S11 for tone dialer speed, S8 for pause time for comma - but that doesn't seem to have an effect. I've tried shorter than 2 seconds and longer than 2 seconds. I did try Ultraterm and got through OK though. ????? I would really rather use BTP. Bert. --- Apr 18, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] Hmmmm....weeel, I thought it was an S register. there IS a hayes command that affects pulse dialing, honest...<<No, I don't know where my SmarTEAM manual is right now...>> Unless I'm hallucinating again?! Have you checked with Bobs BBS, perchance?! Either he or Tom could probably advise you, too. *deb!* --- Apr 18, 1987 MAYSMITCHELL [SounDesign ARE WE TALKINGTHE DIFFERENCEBETWEEN ATDTAND ATDP? --- Apr 18, 1987 TIGLON.G [*SysOp*] S7=n Set the length of time (in seconds of course) the modem will wait for detection of carrier when originating a call. Default is 30 seconds, and if using a or calling through a long distance service, you might have to increase this <up to 255>. Yet another S register! -<* Gayle --- Apr 18, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] From my US Robotics manual: S0- set number of rings before auto answer Default=1 S1-counts and stores number of incoming rings S2-define escape code character. Default=+ S3-define ASCII charachter recongized as lie feed arrrrgggghhh the above is S4 not S3 (line feed) S5-Define ASCII backspace character S6-set number of seconds modem waits for dial tone before dialing S7- set number of seconds modem waits for carrier S8-set duration in seconds for Pause (",") option and pause between repeat (">") command S9-Set duration in 10ths of seconds for carrier detect time before recognition S10-set duration in 10ths of seconds modem waits after carrier loss before hanging up S11-set duration and spacing, in milli-seconds, of TOUCH TONES when dialed. S12-define guard time, in 50ths of a second for escape code sequence S16-register for self testing Sorry, nothing about pulse dialing. Courtney --- Apr 19, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] Aha...it was S11, the one for tone dialing delays I must have been thinking of. Methinks it truly is something that only Bob can fix... Thanks everyone! --- Apr 09, 1988 R.PUCCIO1 Does anyone know if there is a way to communicate with an IBM PC using a C64 via a modem? I would like to work with my IBM at the office and access files at home using my Commodore 64. If anyone can help please leave a message here or in my mail box ........R Puccio1 --- Apr 12, 1988 GRAFIX.M [GFX *SysOp*] If at work and you need to access your 64, you could run a "power" term like Bob's Term Pro in the Remote mode. Your 64 then acts like a mini-bbs. It will answer your phone line and (with the proper password) allow you to access any of the files on your disk. Or try one of the smaller BBS systems to run on your 64 while you are at work. If you have a phone line available that you can use at the office, you can do the same thing there. When you leave work for the day, fire up a BBS or power term program (Qmodem/Procomm/etc.) and call your PC from home with a term program running on your 64. Both ways, be SURE to password protect your system! --- Mar 07, 1988 JIM.RUSSELL Does anyone have any experience using BobsTerm with a 2400 bps modem? I have a friend who recently got a new modem, and is having problems. I suspect it is the Baud Rate Factor, since he is getting lots of garbage characters. What would be a good starting point of high/low byte values for him to try? Any help and assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim --- Mar 08, 1988 D.HYTE Hi Jim...yup...I'm runnin an Avatex 2400 here off my Aprotek universal RS232 i/f....I played with it a bit and found that in the RS232 section of the Parameters from the Main, I set the BAUD ADJ LO to 111 and just left the HI setting alone. I have notice severe problems when calling the Wildcat! boards running on clones...anyway...play with the LO setting then do a small upload and download to find your trim and it should be fairly constant after that. Dave (.)(.) --- Mar 08, 1988 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] I use BTPro with a US Robotics Courier at 2400 baud with NO problems at all. The previous HI/LO baud adj figures should work. If you any garbble on the screen, kick the LO number up or down by one. It doesn't take much. Courtney --- Mar 12, 1988 JKERSHNER Does anyone know if BTP works with the Volks 6480? I know I was a fool for buying,but when it first came out I didn't know any better. Jim --- Mar 13, 1988 W.ROBERSON Sorry BTP does not work with the 6480. Try Sixth Sense 128. The folks at Microtechnic Solutions, Inc. are enclosing an advertisement in the box with the new 1670 modems. SS128 will work with the 6480. Bill --- Sep 07, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] Like GARYW, I use a US Robotics Courier at 2400 baud with Bobsterm on the 128. Works like a charm. The 64 can also be pushed to 2400 with some errors. You have to buy an external modem and then run down the proper interface for the users port. They are advertised in most com- puter magazines for 25-40 bucks. Good luck...you'll find that 2400 is just like being there in real time. Courtney --- Sep 10, 1987 DEB I use an AVATEX 2400 with my C128 and BobsTerm Pro 128, as well as a null modem for Amiga-to-128 transfers at *4800* baud, or PC-to-128 Xfers at the faster speed. I'm with Courtney, 2400 can spoil you fast...! ::grin:: *deb!* --- Sep 10, 1987 JOEBROWN [Joe Brown] Deb!, I am using a Mitac 2400BD modem with an Omnitronix interface with BobsTerm Pro-128. The Mitac is Hayes compatible. I find BobsTerm Pro-128 to be an excellent program, in fact, I would venture to say it's the premier C-128 communiations program. I have one problem though at 2400 baud, and maybe there is some tweeking I can do to the program (although I've tried everything), to fix it. It seems that when I am receiving at a "real 2400 baud" like a long text file from our TBBS system, (rather than a pseudo 2400 baud like the high price data service) that the buffer gets full and starts to garble, sorta like the old BASIC terminal programs did at 300 baud unless you put in printer delays. I'm reasonably sure that it's the speed of the program because when I press CTRL-S to stop the incoming data it takes a second or so to fully stop, which I assume is the buffer is being emptied. Of course during xmodem transfers everything is just fine because it's only receiving 128 bytes at a time. This is much more noticeable when the capture buffer is open. My current settings for the RS-232 port is Baud Adj Lo = 070. Baud Adj Hi=001 Was just wonderning if anyone else has experience this problem? Even with this minor problem, I can't say enough good things about the program, it has certainly made my remote sysoping a breeze, just LUV that buffer that can be edited!! Oh...while I'm at it, I have seen a number of messages about true carrier detect. Well, with the Mitac and the Omnitronix (with all switches to the right) and BobsTerm Carrier Phase set to +, when I send a AT&C1 in my initialization string (in the Autostart Macro) the program detects the carrier perfectly. --- Sep 10, 1987 JOEBROWN [Joe Brown] Correction to my last message. I gave the settings for 1200 baud. For 2400 baud my BobsTerm Pro settings are Baud Adj Lo=112, Baud Adj Hi=000. --- Sep 12, 1987 DEB Joe: I'd fiddle with your lo baud setting one or two to see if you can get it to be any better. You are sooo right, tho, the REAL test is in continuous streams of text. <<and sending seems to be more sensitive than receiving>> Lets see...someone wanted to know about the AVatex. The AVatex is a 300/1200/2400 baud RS-232 modem which requires an RS-232 interface to use with your 128. The RS-232 interface plugs into your user port, then you use an RS- 232 extension cable and plug the modem and the interface together. When using a null modem at 4800 baud, I use the same interface, but unplug the modem, and replace it with the null modem. *deb!* --- Sep 12, 1987 JOEBROWN [Joe Brown] Deb!, I guess it's just not fast enough at 2400 baud. I tried everything. Again, I would like to stress that the buffer only gets overloaded when the capture buffer is on. But, what the heck at 2400 baud, it's almost as fast to download. Have a nice weekend! --- Sep 12, 1987 GARYW I have my Lo Byte saet at 113 and works great. No buffer problems. --- Sep 14, 1987 K.ROHRER I also use a 2400 baud modem, a Prometheus Promodem 2400. It is com nnected to my C128 w/ an Omnitronix De, luxe RS232 Interface ana d I also use BT Pro 128 term software. I have been uploading and downloading programs and text files off of BBS BBS's for some time w/o ano y problems. I just use the default settings w/o any adjustments. ^Kevin --- Oct 13, 1987 T.BETTEAU One thing to check when using Bobsterm 128 at 2400, make sure Emulation mode is turned off, this can slow things down enough to cause buffer overflow problems. I have my baud adjust set at 111, and it works fairly well. I also have PaperClip II which has a terminal mode, and 2400 baud works PERFECT on it, no garble , no buffer problems, and capturing to buffer (actually, it captures right to the word proccessor) causes no problems. They claim it can run at 9600 baud with NO problems, but I don't have the abillity to test it. If anybody out there has PaperClip II , and an Amiga/PC clone with a null modem cable (Like, maybe DEB? :)) how about giving the 9600 baud a test? --- Sep 05, 1987 GARYW I use BTPro 128 and a USR 2400. It works great and I have no problems. ---