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- * This is one of a series of four files which consist of messages from *
- * the FlagShip bulletin board dealing with BobsTerm Pro, arguably the *
- * finest terminal program ever written for the Commodore 64 and 128. The *
- * material for the files was compiled on March 1, 1989, and includes all *
- * relevant messages from the inception of the FlagShip until that date. *
- * My definition of 'relevant' was fairly liberal; in some cases, *
- * messages which might otherwise have been irrelevant have been preserved *
- * in order to preserve continuity of the threads. *
- * *
- * The four files available are: *
- * *
- * BTP.FEATURES.TXT Description and implementation of many *
- * of the features, both basic and advanced,*
- * of both the C64 and C128 versions. *
- * *
- * BTP.MACROS.TXT Use of the extensive MACRO feature, in- *
- * cluding a discussion which culminated in *
- * a macro to provide DIRECT TO DISK capture*
- * from GEnie by way of macros and changes *
- * to the GEnie default prompt character. *
- * *
- * BTP.MODEMS.TXT Discussions of configuration of BTP for *
- * use with various modems *
- * (including 2400 baud), as well as dis- *
- * cussions of which modems will NOT work *
- * with the program. *
- * *
- * BTP.MISC.TXT Messages which did not conveniently fit *
- * into any of the other files. *
- * *
- * Notes: *
- * The messages contained in these files will shortly be removed from the *
- * bulletin board, merely to conserve space. Feel free to start new topics,*
- * discussing BobsTerm or any other subjects. *
- * *
- * Obviously, there is overlap between these topic choices. Messages are *
- * NOT repeated in other files; if you do not find what you are looking *
- * for, try the next most likely file. *
- * *
- * Bob Lentini is no longer working on Commodore computers, distributing *
- * the program, or operating his bulletin board. BobsTerm Pro (both the *
- * C64 and C128 programs) are available through many software vendors or *
- * Progressive Peripherals and Software, whose address is sprinkled *
- * through out these files. *
- * *
- * Enjoy! --Howard Rosenman <HORO> March 5, 1989 *
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-
- Nov 20, 1985
- DEB
-
- The author of BobsTerm Pro, Bob Lentini is a good friend of mine, and I
- dearly love the program too!! I don't know what his backup disk policy is,
- guess maybe we should ask that before we lynch the protection on it.
-
- (VERY good protection, I might add. *smile*)
-
- Faf...you can save the phone book and params to another dsk, can't ya?
-
- Bobsterm downloads like a dream here, but I get a lot of uploading errors, we
- are trying to check that out. it *is* an incredible piece of work...and is
- one of my two favorite programs for the 64...Sixth Sense and BobsTerm Pro have
- the REST of the terminal programs beat hands down!
-
- **
- ---
- Jun 28, 1986
- DEBS-GUEST [Bob L]
-
- Long transfers can abort for many different reasons external to the Term prgm.
- First thing to make sure of is that you have enough room on your disk. Thats
- 300 commodore blocks, almost half a disk full. I have downloaded many many
- files of that length with version 1.9 with no difficulty, so I do not think
- there is a bug,... but as Deb mentioned, if the LO baud is not exactly right,
- after that many characters transferred, it is easy odds that one bad character
- might show up as a CTRL-X which would be accepted as an abort.
- Try trimming the LO baud slightly and see if that helps, otherwise, defeat
- the CTRL-X ABORT character in the Parameters section for XMODEM..... change it
- to a NULL ($00). That will eliminate the chance of a forced abort due to a bad
- character received due to Line noise or Baud rate adjust. See if that solves
- the problem.
- Bob Lentini
- ---
- Jun 28, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- I changed my cancell/abort character to a CTRL U, and have lived happily ever
- after ....
-
- **
- ---
- Jun 29, 1986
- GRAFIX.M [Mike Hooper]
-
- Thanks! I'll give 'em all a try.
- GEnie responds: ABORTED BY TERMINAL. My 1200 baud lo byte is 58. I've
- tried higher and lower, and if it is even +/- 1, I get lots of garbage with
- just text! One thing I have noticed, I cannot auto-dial at that setting. But
- I can go to Term mode and use the ATDT commands just fine.
- Is there anyway to enter a SHIFT-RETURN in a Macro? ThanX.
- ---
- Jun 29, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- If you cannot auto dial at that setting, something's bigtime wrong. try a
- MUCH higher value, Mike, like 65 and start working down.
-
- ALSO, set for 8 bits, no parity. *What* is a shifted return for...?
-
- **
- ---
- Jun 29, 1986
- GRAFIX.M [Mike Hooper]
-
- Farther I deviate from 58, the worse it gets! Heck, I've tried up to 95 and
- down to 40.
-
- The Shifted return is to shift the lo baud rate down. Was going to set-up a
- MACRO to Start me high and after connection, move down. I know it will wrap-
- around past 255, but <ACK> without a counter in the macros, it's a real pain!
- --GFX
- ---
- Jul 01, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- Mike....just play with values between 70 and 57. I've NEVER heard of anything
- beyond that range working.
-
- **
- ---
- Jul 02, 1986
- DEBS-GUEST [Bob L]
-
- Mike... Deb is correct, The usable value range lies within 70-56 or 57.
- Also... entering a shift return is as easy as hitting SHIFT RETURN in the
- macro string. You will see a normal video small m with a line above it. You
- could also initiate a HEX or DECIMAL entry and enter the value for shift
- return which is 141 dec.... or $8D HEX. You start this sequence by hitting
- COMKEY-$ for HEX or COMKEY-# for decimal.
- Bob Lentini
- ---
- Jul 02, 1986
- GRAFIX.M [Mike Hooper]
-
- Thanks Bob. I wasn't aware you could use HEX or DEC entry in a macro. Seems
- like I learn something new with BTP every week! Thanks again for writing
- it!!!
- --GFX
- ---
- Aug 09, 1986
- GBARRETT [VISION100]
-
- HELLLLLLLLP!!!!!!!
- -Maybe I missed it, but I have a documented, observed problem which I
- cannot find an immediate cure for...
- Does anyone else find their Bob'sTerm128 locking up when they
- accidentally hit the CLR/HOME key? It kills me every time!!!!
- Please, Uncle Bob, tell me the cure!!!!
- (then tell me if you guys have the multi-user BBS done for the ST!) -Gary
- ---
- Aug 09, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- Er, Gary....a HOME key is a CHR$(19) ... CTRL S ... otherwise known as HALT
- all incoming data....
-
- try a CTRL Q, or a cursor down key to 'fix' it.....
-
- **
- ---
- Aug 10, 1986
- GBARRETT [VISION100]
-
- (blushing with embarrassment)
- My stubby little fingers just love to fly all over the place! I guess I
- let my frustration get to me, tho!!! Ur rite, Deb! Control-Q works...
- (God, I feel REAL dumb...I could've sworn I'd tried EVERYTHING!)
- THANKS !!!!!!! -Gary (off to seclusion now)
- ---
- Dec 10, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- I hate to add a message way down here in the end of this string of BTP, but
- with my new 2.0 (new to me anyways) I noticed (again) that when you select (A)
- from the menu, and then (D), and enter a phone number, it seems to ignore the
- first number...thus only dialing 6 numbers. It also happens on my 1.9. Anyone
- else have this haappen...or did I miss something somewhere in the manual??
-
- -<* Gayle
-
- ---
- Dec 10, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- What kind of modem are you using, Gayle? and what modem do youhave it set
- for?
- ---
- Dec 10, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- I have the 1670's..and I have it set for the Hayes Modem.
- ---
- Dec 11, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- Pulse or Tone Dialing, Gayle?!
- ---
- Dec 11, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- Tone tone tone!! PULSE is far too slow...and I am not a patient person! It
- dials from terminal mode fine, with ATDT.... but it ignores the first one in
- the macros too!
-
- -<* Gayle
-
- ---
- Dec 11, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- Wow...I'll go dig up my copy <somewere> and test it! Whats your Lo Byte set
- to, Tig?!
- ---
- Dec 12, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- 60!!!!!!!!!!!!
- ---
- Dec 12, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- Hey Lady! I tried the 61 for the low byte, and the puppy dials CORRECTLY!!!!!
- Thanks for the help!! ::running off to redial!::
-
- -<* Gayle
-
- ---
- Dec 12, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- Ok...if you want to know whats happening here....
-
- The lo byte is off enough that when the software throws out the dialing
- command at a full 1200 baud line blast that some of the characters get lost.
- Trimming the baud rate to talk to your modem 'just right' should take care of
- the problem. This may also affect the number of retransmissions when
- uploading!
-
- I keep my CHAR DELAY in the XFER Parameters set to *1*, but this doesn't help
- either MACROES or AUTODIALING, only refers to stuff done from C=X.
-
- You can thank Commodore's Software UArt for all these fun and games...!
-
- **
- ---
- Dec 12, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- Ya know though, if I keep my LB to 61, my screen has random garbage on it
- :Sigh: there is no happy medium, if I wanna use my macros, I have to reset the
- parameters inside of the macro to adjust for the dialing and the screen
- flakes. UGH!
-
- -<* Tiggy *>-
-
- ---
- Dec 22, 1986
- MICHAELNC [Michael NC]
-
- I've got BTPro for the 64, and it's doing great, except for one thing. I
- can't seem to get it to upload.
-
- Downloads work just great, but uploads get their 10 errors really quickly,
- and it bombs out.
-
- The speed is already in the middle of its range for my setup, and everything
- having to do with XModem is set at it's default.
-
- Any ideas??
-
- I've tried both CRC and regular XModem, and neither one will go. That's on a
- local board and on plink, haven't tried it here yet. Anyplace to do a test
- upload?
-
- Thanks Michael
- ---
- Dec 22, 1986
- TIGLON.G [*SysOp*]
-
- Michael... :sigh: As I have quickly learned with BTP 64, there are some minor
- quirks. Try setting your low byte to 68-70, and it should upload without any
- problem. However, if you want to be able to read the screen once you are done,
- you'll have to readjust the byte..over..and over..and over...I have found no
- other way for the puppy to upload!!! URG! Even with that, I love the program.
- I still think I've got a bad disk, so I'm sending it merrily back to Bob for
- his looksee! Take care!
-
- -<* Tiggy *>-
-
- ---
- Jan 22, 1987
- B.HAYFORD
-
- I am having some troubles uploading to a local BBS with BobsTerm Pro 64. I
- get through the process all the way to the end of the transfer (straight x-
- modem) and then the troubles begin! I can't seem to get out and everything
- freezes up. The keyboard will accept nothing! run/stop will get me to the
- main menu but when I get back to the terminal - same thing. Nothing seems to
- work and I have to disconnect the modem. Any ideas?? bert)
- ---
- Jan 22, 1987
- DEB [*SysOp*]
-
- Bert: which version of BTPro 64 are you using?! and which BBS?! Many BBS's
- have implemented XMODEM in varying strange ways....
-
- *deb!*
- ---
- Jan 22, 1987
- B.HAYFORD
-
- Deb: BTPro 64 version 1.9 is the version that I am using. The BBS is a new one
- here in Augusta, Maine "capitol city Micros" 207-623-5380 sysops name is Steve
- Greve. I would like to lend all the support I can but am having a hard time
- getting started. Thanks, Bert
- ---
- Feb 08, 1987
- B.HAYFORD
-
- I am using BT PRO 64 v 1.9 and am having trouble dumping the buffer to my
- printer. I am using an Okidata 92 with a Tymac 'the connection' interface. No
- matter which switch setting I use on the Tymac:
- #1 open = 1525 emulation
- #2 open = extended mode (all secondary addresses 0-8
- #2 closed = limited mode (secondary addresses 0-7)
-
- #1 closed = Transparent mode (ascii)
- #2 open = linefeed on
- #2 closed = no linefeed I have tried printing petscii files in
- emulation mode and ascii files in transparent mode and always get the same
- results:
-
- The printer prints a line of garbage (looks like a nonsense hires line) and
- locks up. Can't even use the reset button on the Tymac to clear things out.
- Have to turn the printer off and then back on again. Any ideas??? B. Hayford
- (Bert)
- ---
- Feb 09, 1987
- MICHAELNC [Michael NC]
-
- I also use BTP 64 and a Tymac interface (tho to an epson printer)
-
- Two ways have worked fine:
-
- leave the interface in emulate mode, and BTP in petscii with a secondary
- address of 7. i mean the printer parameter menu toggle of ascii or petscii
-
- or use a secondary address of 6, and put BTP into ascii
-
- i've had some trouble with tymac tho, if there is a "switch on graphics"
- character buried in the text somewhere, then it goes ape till i turn it off
- and back on
-
- ---
- Feb 09, 1987
- MICHAELNC [Michael NC]
-
- Always helps to sleep on a problem.
-
- On the printer parameter menu (where you set the secondary address) there are
- a bunch of fields called Control Char.
-
- Clear all of them out to 0 (ASCII nuls)
-
- Bob set the default to an escape sequence, which generally upsets the TYMAC
- interface.
-
- Try that and see!!
- ---
- Feb 09, 1987
- B.HAYFORD
-
- Just tried your suggestion re: setting all of the defaults to nulls and it
- worked perfectly. THANKS!!!!! B.Hayford (Bert)
- ---
- [NOTE: The following discussions regarding disk errors pertain to the OLD
- version 1571 ROM's. They are included in this file in case anyone still has
- these ROM's, but the problems with double-sided disks were corrected in the
- newer ROM's --HORO 3/1/89]
-
- Jul 19, 1986
- MIKEM [Pax Regal]
-
- Question: If one was using BobsTerm Pro-128 and kept on getting I/O Errors
- during file transfers with CCITT Xmodem at 1200 baud, which parameters would
- you tell this person to check/change? This is happening on Plink, GEnie, and
- CI$, and will abort the transfer at different stages <moreso during Uploads>.
- BobsTerm has sooo many options and parms to fiddle with, I dont know where to
- start. Thanx again.. -Mike
- ---
- Jul 20, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- I'll take a gander that you are using a 1571, and the files in question when
- this happen are ones that span to the second side of the drive...
-
- I.E....wait for new roms. This *never* happens on a 1541 or an IEEE drive,
- but happens on my 1571 under above conditions. I *never* use more than 500 or
- 600 blocks of my 1571 disks....
-
- **
- ---
- Jul 21, 1986
- MIKEM [Pax Regal]
-
- Deb: <banging head against keyboard>. Geeeez, I never thought about that!
- Thanx muchly. Yours in senility,
- -Mike
- ---
- Jul 22, 1986
- WHIRT [WDHIRT]
-
- Deb,
- I don't why, but I don't have any trouble downloading a 1571 disk to the
- whole 1300 some blocks using Micro VT and Sixth Sense 128... and I've used two
- 1571's (one of which is a very early 1571 and another newer model.) Is this a
- sporadic bug or should I count my blessings?
- Bill
- ---
- Jul 23, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*]
-
- Dunno....I'd say as long as a 1571 is involved, count your blessings!
-
- I have a NEW 1571 here, and its _not_ being nearly as flakey as my old
- one....but I am very very careful about using anything on the second side.
-
- **
- ---
- Jul 23, 1986
- DEBS-GUEST [Bob L]
-
- MikeM..... I/O errors on BTPRO mean specifically DISK Problems. As Deb
- stated, I would suspect the 1571 drive..... they act very strange at times for
- no apparent reason. Try downloading and Uploading direct to BUFFER...(much
- much faster anyway), and then the disk drive cannot mess things up. You may
- then try as many times as needed to get a proper SAVE TO DISK. It is really
- the preffered way.... and the speed improvement on fast nodes is incredible.
- Also.... you can try lengthening the XMODEM timeout ADJUST parameter for CIS
- and slow networks, but the fact that you are receiving an I/O error tells me
- the problem is not in the XMODEM.
- Bob Lentini (RML)
- ---
- Jul 24, 1986
- MIKEM [Pax Regal]
-
- Bob: I have done some testing, and have concluded that Deb was correct. When
- transferring to/from the second side, things really flake out. I wasnt aware
- of the transfer to/from buffer options of your <great> term program. <Then
- again, I havent done my homework and really delved into the manual yet,
- either>. Thanx much for the info...helped alot!
- -Mike
- ---
- Jan 04, 1988
- H.HERMAN1
-
- After being around for four years, I believe, Bob closed down his
- CAA bbs in November.
-
- He was looking for someone to take it over, but I quess no one
- volunteered.
-
- I don't know if he saved the postings, but the stuff that was on
- the BTP sig was a wealth of info on everything to do with BTP.
-
- I am pretty familiar with the 128 program, and if you have any question,
- would be happy to help out.
-
- Howie
- ---
- Jan 04, 1988
- DEB [*SysOp*]
-
- I've been using BTPro since it was in Beta test, so there is not much that
- gets by me, either! <grin>
-
- *deb!*
- ---