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TidBITS#165/22-Feb-93
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This week we look more closely at component level repair and
whether or not it is reasonable to expect Apple to do it,
report on a deal from Connectix that, in an unusual move, is
only open to users of online services, and present much-awaited
benchmarks on the just-released machines, again from Tom
Thompson and BYTE Labs. Also, those of you on the Internet
can check out parts of "The Internet Companion," available
via anonymous FTP.
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MailBITS/22-Feb-93
Online Books
Connectix Online Offer
Apple Repair, Continued
February Mac BYTE Benchmarks
Reviews/22-Feb-93
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MailBITS/22-Feb-93
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Lots of people have asked us where they can get the 32-bit Enabler
and the Macintosh Hardware System Update. As yet, they have not
appeared where the net public can find them. We have received
contradictory information about whether or not these programs have
even been released, so as a result, our advice is to sit tight for
a bit and not worry.
Online Books
------------
Fred Berg writes:
Parts of "The Internet Companion" by Tracey LaQuey and Jeanne C.
Ryer, which was reviewed in TidBITS#164, are available via
anonymous FTP from <world.std.com> in the directory:
</OBS/The.Internet.Companion./>.
Barry Shein adds:
Further chapters will be released in the future. See the README
and COPYRIGHT files in that directory for more details. Direct
comments and questions about the book to:
internet-companion@world.std.com
This pioneering effort is a step in bringing together the online
electronic and print media, enabling authors to explore new
avenues of publishing their works. Comments and inquiries are
welcome via email to <obs@world.std.com>.
Information from:
Fred Berg -- Fred_Berg@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu
Barry Shein -- bzs@world.std.com
Connectix Online Offer
----------------------
Connectix, makers of Connectix PowerBook Utilities (CPU), Virtual
3.0, MAXIMA, Hand-Off II, and the new InfoLog, is offering lower
than normal prices to online services users. Since you're reading
TidBITS, there's a good chance you fit that category. The offer
involves ordering direct from Connectix, so the prices are
excellent - noticeably better than mail order (I found a few mail
order prices for comparison in the table below). Add $4 for
shipping in North America, $10 for international orders (for one
or more), and if you're in California, add the 8.5% state sales
tax. Although international orders are fine, Connectix cannot
accept orders from all countries due to agreements with local
resellers, to whom Connectix will refer you if necessary.
Product List Mail Online
--------------------------------------------------------
Connectix PowerBook Utilities (CPU) $99 49 39
Virtual 3.0 99 39
MAXIMA 2.0 69 45 29
InfoLog 149 44
HAND-Off II 99 55 39
If you are on AppleLink or America Online, Connectix has online
order coupons you can download and redistribute. On AppleLink,
check for AppleLink -> Third Parties -> Connectix -> Connectix
"On-Line Coupon" and on America Online, look in a new Connectix
Forum opening next week in the Macintosh Utilities Forum. It may
also be worth checking on Connectix's forum on CompuServe in the
Macintosh A Vendors forum (MACAVEN).
If you can't get a coupon, send your name, organization, street
address, city, state, zip, and phone number; email address and
service (I imagine "Internet" is fine for most of us); and credit
card type (Visa, MasterCard, or American Express), number, and
expiration date to Connectix at an electronic address below. Sorry
to list all that out like that, but I have confidence you can
figure it out.
Connectix says it will take about 10 days for delivery and the
offer is void where prohibited (I like that phrase. It reminds me
of a sign I saw once that said "Illegal activities prohibited."
What, and they're OK everywhere else?). Finally, all of
Connectix's products have a 30-day, money-back satisfaction
guarantee. I approve. You can order one of each product per email
address, and the prices expire 30-Jun-93.
You can order these products via email or, if you prefer (and we
don't) via fax. As much as it's a bit clumsy to order this way,
you can see how much money goes into the software distribution
channel. If more companies conducted business online, we'd have
cheaper software and less packaging waste since the companies
would be interested in shipping smaller packages, not in creating
hefty boxes to look good on shelves. Connectix, by the way, is
good about packaging if the copy of Virtual 3.0 I just received is
any indication. The disk is in an envelope inside the slim manual,
and the whole thing is shrink-wrapped. No box, little waste.
And to preempt comments, yes, I know that if we rid ourselves of
the software distribution channel that dealers won't be able to
stay in business and provide the tech support users require
(although Roy McDonald of Connectix made a point of telling me
that Connectix provides toll-free support). In this instance, I
fall back on running dog capitalist theory and say that the market
would adapt.
Some people have legitimate concerns about sending credit card
numbers through email. I expressed that concern to Roy, who said
they set up the fax for this reason, and so far they have received
three times as many responses via email as via fax. I'm glad that
email is beating fax, but I'd like to see (and if I get bored
someday I may write it) a HyperCard stack or application that has
fields for the relevant data, does error checking, and then writes
data to an encoded text file. The coding scheme could be as simple
as a slightly modified rot13 (take the ASCII value of each letter,
add 13, convert back to a letter, and repeat), but it would ensure
basic privacy. There's no point in trying to protect that number
too hard - if people want to steal it they will anyway and you
will have to rely on your bank for help. The other value of this
program would be to allow automatic data entry of the orders with
a moderately intelligent mail system.
Send your email order to:
CONNECTIX.CS@applelink.apple.com
connectix@aol.com
75300.1546@compuserve.com
415/571-5195 (fax)
800/950-5880 (voice)
Information from:
Connectix propaganda
Roy McDonald, Connectix -- connectix@applelink.apple.com
Apple Repair, Continued
-----------------------
Just as our modem issue garnered many comments that you'll see in
a future issue, so did Fred Condo's open letter complaining about
Apple's repair policies. People brought up many excellent points
about why Apple doesn't officially do component level repair,
which I'll try to represent here.
As Keith Bourgoin <kbourgoin@chaparral.fse.ulaval.ca> wrote, Apple
is essentially saying, "We don't make those CD-ROM drives, so we
can't get the individual parts even if we wanted them." Think of
it like this: Sony builds a CD-ROM drive for Apple and stamps an
Apple logo on it. That drive doesn't even necessarily appear in
Apple's factories. A glaring example is the Apple Color Printer,
which goes straight from Canon's factories to Apple's warehouses.
Apple never gets the individual parts that make up that CD-ROM
drive or color printer. Thus, when Apple provides repair parts,
they provide a "unit" from Sony or Canon.
In that sense, Fred's specific complaint isn't Apple's fault, but
Sony's. And, as Jeff Provost <jp57+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote, getting
through to Sony's parts department is an exercise in frustration.
If you connect to a large company's parts department, as Bill
Coderre <bc@apple.com> said in another mailfile (and to be clear,
Bill says he is not the Official Apple Voice Of Truth[tm]), they
may refuse to sell you a single gear. A bag of 50, sure, but since
the company Bill was talking about wouldn't sell anything for less
than $50 for bookkeeping reasons, the customer had to buy a bag of
50 gears. I guess that's better than buying a new widget, but not
much better.
That answers the question for Apple-branded equipment that Apple
doesn't make, but what about motherboards, which Apple does make?
Someone wrote to us with a horror story about how a picture fell
off his wall and hit the SCSI port on the back of his IIci,
pulling out one of the threaded holes for the SCSI cable screw. He
said the part didn't appear integral to the motherboard, but he
had to replace the entire board to fix it.
The problem is threefold. First, Apple uses a just-in-time
inventory method that tries to ensure when a Mac is ordered, it's
built right then and shipped out. That's over-simplifying, but the
idea is that Apple doesn't have a large inventory of raw parts or
completed machines, ever. A large quantity of tiny repair parts in
the dealer channel would cause inventory problems, tracking
problems, and accounting problems, and as much as it's fun to
complain, that costs money, which would raise the cost of Macs.
Second, more and more of the parts on Apple's motherboards are
custom designed for Apple, which means that the manufacturers only
make as many as Apple will use. We're not talking the original IBM
PC here, which IBM created with almost entirely off-the-shelf
parts. Third and finally, if Apple made these parts available to
repair centers, they would have to ensure that repair centers had
people skilled enough to do component level repair. Would you
trust your dealer to have someone that skilled? Some yes, some no.
Also, a company may not make parts available because that
encourages untrained people to open equipment and try to fix it.
That's all fine if the equipment is old, but what if it's under
warranty? Does the company honor that warranty even though your
soldering iron slipped and melted a hole in the controller card?
William Humphries <humphrie@ssc.wisc.edu> passed on an interesting
note. Apparently Kodak lost an antitrust suit filed against it by
a group of frustrated repair centers that could not get parts.
William didn't have the original suit, and I haven't found it, so
I don't know if the situation is similar.
Finally, our friend Oliver Habicht <Oliver_Habicht@cornell.edu>
from Cornell expressed an interesting viewpoint. As Oliver sees
it, the problem is similar to the question of whether to repair
or replace a broken VCR. When a mechanical system wears out, it
stresses other parts of the system, and in some cases, like on a
bicycle derailleurs, the parts wear together. Thus, when one
breaks, it's a sign that more will break soon, and often when
repairing a VCR, the technician replaces related, weakened parts.
On a bike, if you replace one part of the derailleur system
without replacing other parts, you may have trouble because the
new part and the old ones aren't worn in the same ways and stress
each other differently (and from experience, they'll make
miserable whining sounds until they've worn enough so you can
adjust them correctly :-)).Thus, the decision to not provide
repair parts may be related to the likelihood of a successful
long-term repair.
Of course, this leaves open the possibility that independent
people could do component-level repair. These people do exist - a
guy we knew in Ithaca would fix a broken part rather than replace
the motherboard, usually cannibalizing parts from dead Macs. He
was popular, and if any of you enterprising electrical engineers
need a job to tide you over in this tired economic climate, think
about board-level repairs. Have enough saved up to replace a
motherboard should you toast it, though. We would like to see more
independent repair shops that could do this, and would ask only
that Apple not hinder such independent people, although for the
reasons outlined above, it would be reasonable if Apple did not
offer additional help.
I hope this explains the many reasons and views for why Apple
doesn't provide low-level repair parts, because this policy will
continue. With something like the Newton, there will be no
repair - if it breaks, you'll get a new one, for free if it's in
warranty, for a fee if it's not.
Postscript
Fred Condo <CONDOF@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU> passed on the rest of the
story of his CD-ROM repair quest:
Six weeks after I took my Apple CDSC CD-ROM drive in for repairs,
and with the help of the Internet community, my local technician
found the right Sony division to sell him the $5 gear. It cost $5.
His labor cost $65, for a $70 total. That this is preferable to
Apple's $500 module swap is, I should hope, self-evident. In an
installation whose CD-ROM drive was an economic necessity and not
something of a luxury, my decision would have been an instant
replacement of the drive with something from NEC. Sony and Apple
have lost my peripherals patronage until this policy changes. They
have been publicly chastised here on the Internet (my email is
running 100% anti-Apple on this). Surely this loss of good will
must count against any fiscal savings Apple achieves by their
policy.
[Just don't expect decent service from NEC - most NEC tech support
horror stories involve explaining Mac basics to the technician. I
don't believe Apple and Sony stand alone in this sort of policy,
since I remember reading of a journalist's equivalently-convoluted
quest for a new ball for his IBM PS/2 mouse. -Adam]
I will continue to buy Apple's wonderful computers whenever I need
a computer. I won't buy any of their peripherals unless they make
a commitment to repair the things at a reasonable price after the
sale.
[Fred offered rebuttals to the explanations as to why Apple cannot
officially handle component-level repair, but we cannot spare the
space. Suffice it to say that Fred feels that Apple could overcome
the objections if they wished. Apple, or at least the people who
responded to Fred's original letter, feels differently, so for the
moment we will have to agree to disagree, and we can all
individually decide if we wish to consider how companies handle
this issue in our purchasing plans. -Adam]
February Mac BYTE Benchmarks
----------------------------
by Tom Thompson -- tomt@bytepb.byte.com
BYTE Senior Tech Editor at Large
According to preliminary BYTE low-level benchmarks, the new Macs
introduced 10-Feb-93 are performance winners. Internally, they
indicate interesting directions that Apple is taking. I'll avoid
some technical details, since you've probably read numerous
articles on these machines already.
The Color Classic's 16 MHz 68030, 10 MB RAM ceiling, and built-in
512- by 384-pixel display sounds suspiciously like the feature set
of the Mac LC II. This happens to be the case: according to
developer notes, the Color Classic places most of the LC II's
components into a compact Mac chassis. The low-level benchmarks
confirm this: the Color Classic's performance is virtually
identical to a Mac LC II. The exception is that, unlike the Mac LC
II, the Color Classic can have a 68882 FPU installed.
The Mac LC III posts nearly the same performance as a Mac IIci.
Note that the system we tested lacked an FPU. This is decent
amount of horsepower to pack into the LC's small frame, and it
should continue as one of the top sellers in Apple's product line.
I've talked to several LC/LC II owners who plan to purchase the LC
III upgrade when they can.
Now we get into interesting territory. Compare the test results of
the Centris 610 to that of the Mac IIfx. As you can see, the 20
MHz 68040-based Centris 610 easily outguns the 40 MHz, 68030-based
Mac IIfx. The floating point performance is very good, especially
since the Centris 610 I tested had an FPU-less 68LC040 processor.
(However, the IIfx lacked the boost of Omega SANE in its floating-
point calculations.) This computer is definitely the answer to the
"I can buy a killer 486 system for around two grand" argument.
The 25 MHz Centris 650 just edges ahead of the 25 MHz Quadra 700.
Several design changes help. First, Apple finally cleaned up the
memory sub-system, making it more efficient. They did this using
an interleaved memory design in which data occupies adjacent
memory banks, and on memory reads the hardware steps through these
banks rapidly. The result is that burst reads eliminate two clock
cycles on each initial address setup and for each successive read.
Apple claims a 10 to 15 percent performance boost with interleaved
memory, and on the average, that's what the BYTE CPU benchmarks
saw (about 13 percent between the Centris 650 and the Quadra 700).
Also, the I/O bus on the Quadra 700/900/950 has gone away: it's
been folded into a custom ASIC (Application Specific Integrated
Circuit) called the IOSB. The IOSB is clocked at CPU speeds, so on
the Quadra 800 most I/O functions operate at 33 MHz. (An exception
is Ethernet, since these transceivers are clocked at 16 MHz.)
Finally, the engineers eliminated one wait state from the built-in
video's VRAM frame buffer, speeding that subsystem up. The result
is Quadra performance in a IIvx frame.
The Quadra 800 has all the design advantages of the Centris 650.
Its performance is a tad faster than the Quadra 950's. The smaller
mini-tower form factor allows you to park it under the desk or on
a desktop.
The PowerBook 165c is nearly equal to the PowerBook 180 in
performance. However, the display performance is much slower. The
reason is that while earlier PowerBooks used dual-ported VRAM for
display frame buffers, the PowerBook 165c uses DRAM. The display
speed slows when the display controller and CPU contend for access
to this DRAM. Note that the PowerBook 165c QuickDraw test, which
uses QuickDraw heavily, ran nearly as fast as the PowerBook 180.
Since most Mac applications make heavy use of QuickDraw, the
PowerBook 165c's screen drawing shouldn't appear as slow as the
tests indicate. For example, BYTE's Slow test algorithmically
fills successive circles using a seed fill, rather than a
QuickDraw region fill, so the effects of DRAM on the video
subsystem are emphasized. If you think a PowerBook 165c is part of
your future, check out the display quality and speed before
buying.
This latest crop of Macs also indicates interesting design trends.
First, many of the Macs provide (typically with a VRAM upgrade)
16-bit video. The PowerBook 165c is the exception. I call these
Macs "video-ready," in that to adequately represent a frame-
grabbed image or QuickTime movie made from an NTSC signal, a Mac
must have a 16-bit display. In this sense Apple is incorporating
multimedia support across its desktop product line. Also, with the
phasing out of the 68000-based Classic, a grand unification of Mac
application software can begin. Until now, a developer had to
contend with supporting both old QuickDraw (the 68000-based
version, which knows nothing of color) and the current
68020/68030-based QuickDraw, which knows of color, GWorlds, and
pixels of various sizes. Now the Color Classic uses the same
"universal code" found in all Mac ROMs since the IIci up to the
Quadras. This universal code consists of 68030-based object code
that implements 32-bit QuickDraw and some virtual memory
mechanisms.
Certainly there are still millions of 68000-based Macs to support,
but over time we can expect the developer's life to get easier
because of this unified environment. Furthermore, at some point
developers can compile applications exclusively to 68030 code,
producing faster applications.
Last but not least, if anything moves Macs, it's the computer
stores eliminating old inventory. I heard of amazing fire-sale
prices on the Mac IIci ($1500 for the Mac, keyboard, and monitor)
and the IIsi.
BYTE Low-level Macintosh v2.0 benchmark results (preliminary)
(all figures in seconds, other than the Indexes):
Table 1
Clr Classic LC II LC III IIci C610
CPU
Matrix 18.7 18.6 10.5 10.2 4.3
8-bit move 94.1 94 51.6 49.1 29.8
16-bit move 53.9 53.8 27 24.6 16.6
32-bit move 40.6 40.5 14.7 12.3 10.3
Sieve 9 9 5.2 5.1 2.7
Sort 11.4 11.4 6.2 5.8 2.5
FPU
Math 60.2 186.9 105.6 70 37.9
Sin(x) 17.8 95.6 54 34 19.7
e^x 18.1 102.9 58.3 45.8 20.9
Video
TextEdit 3.4 3.6 1.9 1.8 1
DrawString 1.7 1.8 1 1.1 0.5
Slow Graphics 27.6 27.1 14.3 10 4.4
QuickDraw 0.3 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.1
Indexes
CPU Index 1.04 1.04 2.03 2.18 3.86
FPU Index 4.72 1.04 1.83 2.66 5.07
Disk Index 1.24 1.01 1.48 1.06 2.12
Video Index 1.08 1.03 1.95 2.17 4.37
Dhrystone 2000 2083 5000 5555 16666
Table 2
IIfx C650 Q700 PB180 PB165c Q950 Q800
CPU
Matrix 6.1 3.5 3.5 8.2 8.9 2.6 2.6
8-bit move 32.5 22.8 25.7 39.6 40.3 19.3 17.9
16-bit move 16.7 12.6 15.5 21 21.9 11.7 10.2
32-bit move 8.8 7.5 10.6 11.7 12.5 8.1 6.5
Sieve 3.2 2.2 2.3 4.1 4.3 1.7 1.6
Sort 3.7 2 2 4.9 5.2 1.5 1.5
FPU
Math 45.8 6.1 6.1 25.7 27.4 4.6 4.6
Sin(x) 21.8 2.8 2.7 8 8.4 2.1 2.1
e^x 29.5 2.8 6 8.2 8.6 4.7 2.1
Video
TextEdit 1.7 0.8 1.3 2 14.3 0.8 0.7
DrawString 1.2 0.4 0.8 1.2 13.2 0.4 0.3
Slow Graphics 6.2 3.6 3.7 12 21.2 3.6 2.8
QuickDraw 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.1
Indexes
CPU Index 3.36 4.98 4.4 2.6 2.47 5.85 6.36
FPU Index 4.1 35.25 27.52 10.68 10.07 35.8 46.71
Disk Index 1.77 3.1 1.83 1.72 1.51 3.35 3.12
Video Index 2.68 5.29 3.93 2 0.52 5.89 7.02
Dhrystone 10000 16666 16666 5555 5000 25000 25000
Notes:
Mac Classic II has an index = 1.
Mac IIsi equipped with FPU and Apple video board.
Mac IIci equipped with Apple cache board and used Thunder/24
display board without acceleration.
All systems ran System 7.1 with AppleTalk off and
extensions disabled.
Mac LC III lacked FPU.
Centris 610 lacked FPU.
Color Classic equipped with FPU.
Disk tests removed for brevity.
Reviews/22-Feb-93
-----------------
* MacWEEK -- 15-Feb-93, Vol. 7, #7
Macintosh Centris 610, 650 -- pg. 1
Macintosh Quadra 800 -- pg. 1
Multiport ARA Servers -- pg. 57
GatorLink
LanRover/E
ArtBeat Professional 1.0 -- pg. 57
Read-It! O.C.R. Pro 4.0.2 -- pg. 59
PowerBook 165c -- pg. 64
Macintosh Color Classic -- pg. 65
LaserWriter Select 300, 310 -- pg. 67
* Macworld -- Mar-93
Novice Multimedia Programs -- pg. 106
Action 1.0
MovieWorks 1.0
Passport Producer 1.0
Special Delivery 1.0
Complex Multimedia Programs -- pg. 114
Aldus SuperCard 1.6
Authorware Professional 1.7.1
Course Builder 4.0
HyperCard 2.1
MacroMind Director 3.1
Spinnaker Plus 2.1
Test Factory 2.1
Midsize Hard Drives -- pg. 124
(too many to list)
Apple Imaging Products -- pg. 134
StyleWriter II
LaserWriter Pro 600, 630
Apple Color Printer
Apple Color OneScanner
Timbuktu 5.0.1 -- pg. 144
PowerBook Duo 210, 230 -- pg. 146
Duo Dock -- pg. 148
Microsoft Word 5.1 -- pg. 150
Special Delivery 1.0 -- pg. 150
Apple Font Pack -- pg. 152
Aldus Personal Press 2.0 -- pg. 154
Publish It Easy 3.0 -- pg. 154
Conflict Catcher and Other Innovative Utilities 1.0 -- pg. 164
INITPicker 3.0 -- pg. 164
Expressionist 3.0 -- pg. 166
MathType 3.0 -- pg. 166
PicturePress 2.5 -- pg. 168
MiniCAD+4 -- pg. 168
At Ease -- pg. 170
Inline Sync 1.0 -- pg. 170
Rodney's Wonder Window -- pg. 172
America Alive -- pg. 172
StrataType 3d 1.0 -- pg. 174
Network Vital Signs 1.0 -- pg. 174
Battle Chess Enhanced CD-ROM -- pg. 176
Where in America's Past is Carmen Sandiego? -- pg. 176
Spiral 1.0.1 -- pg. 178
MetaDesign 3.0 -- pg. 178
* BYTE -- Mar-93
New Macintoshes -- pg. 40
Multiplatform Email packages -- pg. 136
cc:Mail
Da Vinci eMail 2.0
Microsoft Mail for PC Networks 3.0
QuickMail 2.5
WordPerfect Office 3.0
600 dpi laser printers -- pg. 156
Dataproducts LZR-965
HP LaserJet 4
HP LaserJet 4M
Lexmark 4029 10A
Lexmark 4029 10P
QMS 860 Print System
TaxCut and MacInTax -- pg. 165
PowerBook 180 and PowerBook Duo 230 -- pg. 173
Extend+Manufacturing 2.0 -- pg. 181
* MacUser -- Mar-93
HP LaserJet 4M -- pg. 54
Cachet -- pg. 56
MacInTax and TaxCut -- pg. 61
Sketcher -- pg. 68
WealthBuilder -- pg. 69
Action! -- pg. 73
Alias Sketch! -- pg. 77
Image Assistant -- pg. 81
Expanded Book Toolkit -- pg. 85
Square One -- pg. 85
CheckWriter 4/0 -- pg. 85
SimLife -- pg. 87
Miracle Piano Teaching System -- pg. 89
New Apple Printers -- pg. 108
StyleWriter II
LaserWriter Pro 600, 630
Address Book Programs -- pg. 116
Address Book Plus 2.0.1
Contact! 1.0
Dynodex 3.0
Hello! August 1992
InTouch 2.0.2
MacPhonebook 3.0.6
Super QuickDex II 2.5.6
TouchBASE 2.0.1
CD-ROM Drives -- pg. 124
(too many to list)
Workgroup Printers -- pg. 146
Compaq Pagemarq 15
HP LaserJet IIIsi
QMS-PS 2000
QMS-PS 1700
MirrorImage 415
Dataproducts LZR 1560
Hardware That Fits RealTech Laser
TI microLaser XL Turbo
Ethernet to LocalTalk Converters -- pg. 189
Farallon LocalPath
Sonic Systems SuperBridge
Asante AsantePrint
Compatible Systems Ether*Write
Dayna EtherPrint Plus
Digital Products SprintTALK/25E4
Timbuktu for Windows 1.0 and Timbuktu for Mac 5.0 -- pg. 197
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