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- <f1><c000> Atari Hardware Developers
- why so obstinate?
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- ---by Saulot (CHOSNECK CO-(cr)EDITOR'October 2002---
-
-
- or "ROWER WITHOUT A PRICE"
- (for non-polish readers "rower" is a term that means "bicycle")
-
- "I will bring deaf to your home,
- I will introduce to your mother,
- I will wear white suit,
- And I'll come to you with a sack of shit,
- You got it?"
-
- Acid Drinkers "Titus revenge"
-
-
- I know that this is a very difficult topic, but someone has to do it. There is
- a clever saying that could accurately describe my situation "you don't see any
- problem until it touches you personally".
-
- In October 2001 or something I had an idea to put a new "thingy" into my
- falcy. There was a general problem with cpu boosters (CT060 wasn't at hand
- yet, as it is for now, Phantom no longer available, not to mention others). So
- maybe I could invest in my eyes (damn interlace is burning out my eye-balls!)?
- In this case I decided to give my not-so-easily earned money, to Cortex Design
- for their oh-so-wonderful Eclipse. The price wasn't very low (150-200 UKP),
- but I thought to myself that I hadn't invested in my Ataris for years, so it
- was time to do something with it (and of course those undead slogans "Support
- Atari hardware developers" were also important). After a short e-mail exchange
- with David Encill I transferred the money (it took about a week). Then I
- realised that bank transfers are *not cheap*. The foreign bank ripped my
- wallet for something about 1/3 of amount mentioned before. It could explain
- the mysterious discount of Eclipse (from 200 to 150 UKP). After that there was
- a long and very nervous wait for a package. And I waited, and waited, and
- after throwing some lightnings through e-mail I received Eclipse. It was
- nearly the end of December. But this was only the beginning of all the fun.
-
- After installing Eclipse (with the installation manual in my hands right
- before my eyes!) I received a black screen. In the pretty unreadable user
- manual I read that this could be a problem with my software setup or bad wires
- connections. So I started a mail exchange with Johan Klockars (author of
- fVDI). I tried all the possible versions of drivers (the drivers that I
- received from Cortex were of course the oldest from all possible - another
- minus for Cortex (three minuses=serious head-bashing <grin>. I assure you that
- I will do it with Terminator's precision. Right man for the right job!). It
- turned out that my software setup was ok (wow! a point for me, so I am not so
- dumb as I first thought :]). After further mailings with Johan, he decided
- that there was something wrong with my hardware or connections (received bad
- id of pci card -the second number was not right for some unknown reasons). I
- checked my ribbon cable which was connecting the PCI card with the on-board
- Eclipse and what? The cables didn't contact very well (some not at all), so I
- fixed it. But without positive results. The matter of things had to be
- somewhere else. So we came back to Cortex once again.
-
- I wanted to send back my Eclipse back to UK, so I mailed David Encill and
- after a long time he answered saying that the better solution would be that he
- would send me another ribbon cable). Ok then... February, March, soon
- Easter... What the fuck! I sent it back just before the holidays. For some
- time I thought that my Eclipse was lost forever (in an air crash or was stolen
- by Atari-hardware-robbers for example). Thankfully David Encill informed me
- that he received it in one piece and he would look at it after the Easter
- holidays (Of course he informed me after my inquiry. I bet that without it I
- wouldn't know anything to this day). Then there was a long nothing, lots of
- e-mails without answer, developer's illness (oh, I forgot, the second one. The
- first one was the cause of the delay in sending it the first time!) and
- finally when May was close to an end, I received information that my card was
- not in very good shape, the ribbon cable was in a far worse state and he must
- investigate (I broke some plastic on the Eclipse connector) -Wow! Exactly what
- I wrote in a letter before the Easter holiday! That's pretty good, the man can
- read! And you know what? I don't have the card to this day, I also don't have
- my money. It's June 2002 and there is nothing going in my favour. I can sit
- down and can't do anything. My mails are ignored. NOTHING!
-
- In the mean time, on the web I spotted infos about long awaited PPC
- accelerator called Tempest made by Sven Karlsson (the man behind Eclipse). I
- asked about new falcon speeder and of course described my problem with Cortex.
- Sven Karlsson told me that David Encill is very busy because he has a
- full-time job and he maintainins Cortex in his spare time (as a hobby). The
- contact with Sven has broken down after my simple question about using CT060
- with Eclipse (strange isn't it?).
-
- Ok, I then received the replacement Eclipse adaptor around July time. I
- received it not because there was damage detected, but because David Encill
- wasn't able to test it due to his falcon dying (so he told me). Things hadn't
- changed at all. The same error occurred with all the hardware changed for new
- ones (well, except the ati pci card). So I thought to myself that it could be
- something wrong with the PCI. I put it in to two different PCs, and what?
- Black screen. All of this stuff hadn't any right to work properly from the
- beginning. I don't know what was the point of sending damaged card to me (it
- seems that it wasn't tested before dispatching!). Cortex saying that their
- falcon is dead and that it couldn't be tested was a very comfortable solution
- for Mr. Encill, so I think. When I bought the card, back in 2000, the ati card
- (one from the two last ones) cost not a small amount of money.
-
- Recently I've bought brand new ati rage IIc with 4mb ram (it works on PC's, but
- not Atari :/. The pci bios reports everything correctly, but everything hangs
- when initialising. FVDI-scratch register test error occurs, which SHOULD,
- according to the author of FVDI, never fail). Now I'm left on ice without
- any support, but with very expensive, sophisticated, ultra-fast, Fmax, the way
- forward, etc... dead hardware.
-
- Tempest and CT060 developers aren't going to support each other products,
- because what for? If a customer buys the accelerator card from another source
- then he will not buy mine? I will not support the existing hardware, because I
- will do something better in next few years (read as: Saulot will surely die
- before this moment, because he will be sooo oooold and without doubt he will
- become bankrupt)? A sick tendency to support non-existing hardware, which can
- show up (or not) after a years of waiting. Why did R.Czuba abandon Eclipse
- support? And why at the last moment and without any word? I don't want to
- listen about Eclipse 16 bit bus bandwidth and CT060 32 bit bandwidth. I want
- use my Atari with hardware I already possess, not the "virtual" one or
- "imagined". But it seems that no one can meet standard needs in shape of
- basic, simple software support. I cannot trace down the way of thinking from
- these people (inhuman for me). And who is kicked in the ass - CUSTOMERS (a
- handful of people who are still daring to invest in their Atari's - not very
- cheap toys nowadays). I know what you want to say - Atari developers are also
- enthusiasts who are doing everything in their free time. We should thank God
- that someone is still doing something for our machines. Ok, in some cases I
- can agree, but in Cortex's, sorry, no. From the lecture of their website I
- noticed that they were also putting together PC's. The fact that this company
- was on the market for some time suggested that it was reliable and the
- situation that I met face-to-face shouldn't have taken place. I was so wrong.
- And also another thing. I can't ignore a loss of this amount of money, because
- I could spend it another way.
-
- Next thingy that cost lots of my nerves - Paskud's falcon 14mb ST RAM cards.
- You certainly remember it from EIL#2. You know not expensive and ... of course
- not working well (jittering on screen ?). I bought one shortly after EIL#2.
- After putting this card into the belly of my bird, I noticed strange
- sensations striking my senses. It felt like burning rubber. Hmmm, it seemed
- like my falcy was burning out from the inside! Turning the machine off, I
- quick called Paskud. And what I hear from him? The RAM is ok, because it
- worked well through two days in his falcy (!?), the burning sensation was my
- fault (indeed, I agree I didn't put it in right way) and I received one
- strange tip to not push the card to the faclon 030 motherboard too hard
- (????????) because of some technical reasons, a short-circuit risk with the
- metal shielding (I have a towered falcon without any shielding). Indeed there
- were problems with putting it inside right way. You pushed too hard and you
- received a black screen or a completely fucked up screen with strange colours
- and shifted bitplanes. I wasn't very sure if I kicked my compy by accident
- that after it would still be working well ( ;))) ). Total nightmare. After some
- time, the RAM wasn't working at all (I am sure that some of you also have dead
- Paskud Ram cards).
-
- I showed the card to an ex-Atarian who's very good with soldering stuff (he
- soldered additional TT RAM on my father's TT motherboard with his bare hands).
- It turned out that he knows Paskud from old days and of course his RAM... And
- what? PS/2 simm was without special resistors, the soldering has to be done
- from the beginning, because it was so ugly made. I was forced to invest some
- money to repair this. Everything is working well now, I have no jittering and
- I can normally put in on motherboard without any risk of making short
- circuits, pushing too hard and all this shit.
-
-
- Now we slowly reach a final conclusion. From contact with Atari hardware
- developers I learned that everything is good until the point where you've
- handed out your money. If everything with the hardware is ok, no problem. But
- if something is wrong, you receive little or no support at all. It's not very
- fair when you receive nothing in return and you are treated like a slut or
- another bitch. Yes, Atari-niche market is veeeery specific. Two questions
- remain. Firstly, what we can do with such developers, put them on the black
- list? If they are tired of answering the tons of emails, maybe we should let
- them express their opinions on this topic, interrogate or ask them common
- questions regarding their products in one place (in Chosneck for example, to
- spare them answering the same questions a hundred of times without any risk
- that they will get angry, annoyed, aggressive or completely silent)? Where are
- such beautiful times when companies offered hardware for review? Maybe when I
- could test something officially, I could get fully working things directly
- from developer (as ST Computer), and finally I could write down some quite
- positive opinions. Sorry, I can't this time. But I really would like to -
- very much so.
-
- Are there any possibilities or solutions to get rid of these sicknesses ? Force
- the hardware developers down or simply convince them to meet our basic needs
- (to make this damn hardware work correctly) ? Or maybe we will stay quiet
- without anything to say and we will still be buying everything that appears,
- no matter if it works or otherwise?
-
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