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From: [e-mail] (Cliff Tuel)
Subject: New Anne Dudley album
Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:32:44 -0800 (PST)

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I don't remember this getting mentioned -- new Anne Dudley solo album,
"Ancient and Modern", (The Echo Label ECHCD3 (England), FAX
011-44-171-792-1299).  It was featured just before Christmas on Music
From the Hearts of Space.  Can someone who's heard it comment on it?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Looking for...
Date: 02 Jan 1996 23:12:19 -0500

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     Hello all.

     My name is Jason Bondy. I'm new to this list and a big fan of all things
ZTT. Especially 808 State, Propaganda, and Art of Noise.  Some other
favorites outside ZTT are Lush, Shamen, Moby, Orbital, and Gary Numan.  Too
many others to list here!

Here are a couple things I'm looking for:

    * 808 State Optical 90 VHS (Must be U.S. NTSC compatible), or laserdisc

    * Propaganda "Machinery" or "Sorry for Laughing" 12" mixes on CD

Thanks to anyone who can help,
                                               Jason
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From: Dave Cowen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New Anne Dudley album
Date: 02 Jan 1996 20:07:53 -0600

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At 02:32 PM 1/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
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>I don't remember this getting mentioned -- new Anne Dudley solo album,
>"Ancient and Modern", (The Echo Label ECHCD3 (England), FAX
>011-44-171-792-1299).  It was featured just before Christmas on Music
>>From the Hearts of Space.  Can someone who's heard it comment on it?

    I've heard it... it was merely pleasant.  Lots of strings, choirs and
classical arrangements, very little keyboard or synth.  It sounded terribly
uninspired to me (and I typically love Dudley's string arrangements), so
I chose not to pick it up -- the best I could say for it was that I wouldn't
mind studying to it.  If you really, really get into Dudley's film score
work you'll probably like it, but it's certainly not anything close to her
groundbreaking, passionate work for the Art of Noise (or any of the other
projects she's done for Trevor Horn or the Pet Shop Boys) -- it's much more
dry and restrained.

[e-mail]
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From: Brandon K Snavely <[e-mail]>
Subject: new subscriber
Date: 05 Jan 1996 21:50:15 -0500 (EST)

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Hello,

   I've just subscribed to this list.  I've run across Trevor Horn's name
many places in my CD collection, and I absolutely love his unique
production style.  I have heard his influence on Yes, Pet Shop Boys, and
Seal albums.....I don't have any other albums that he's produced or been
a musician on, but I plan to in the future.
   Some of you may know me from other mailing lists such as Depeche Mode,
Pet Shop Boys, King Crimson, and XTC.
   Trevor's production work on the PSB's "Left to my Own Devices" and
"The Sound of the Atom Splitting", as well as Seal's entire first album,
are what got me interested in his sound.
   Is Trevor a member of this list?  Does he have an email address?
Thanks for reading this far.....

freeze                (Brandon Snavely, [e-mail])
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  Never want to come down, never want to put my feet back
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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Administrivia (comix-biz, exotica, klf, orb, ztt)
Date: 05 Jan 1996 13:56:35 -0700 (MST)

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Sorry if anyone sees this more than once, but you know the drill...

I've recently sorted out the way majordomo handles addresses not actually
subscribed to these lists, so you won't be seeing any more "FORWARDED
MESSAGE" nonsense.  As part of this I've uncovered a cache of older
messages that were bounced to me because they were posted from addresses
not obviously subscribed to the list; those messages will follow this
posting as appropriate.

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From: [e-mail] (J Bortz)
Subject: MC Tunes
Date: 06 Jan 1996 19:53:05 -0500

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Hello everyone.  I am looking for the MC Tunes " The Only Rhyme That Bites "
cd5.  If anyone has this and wants to sell it, please let me know!  Thanks
for all your help in the past!  If anyone needs help finding stuff, maby I
can help you.  Thanks!
Cheers,  Josh  :)

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From: [e-mail] (J Bortz)
Subject: Seal Snowboards!
Date: 06 Jan 1996 21:11:10 -0500

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If you are a fan of Seal, buy the January 96' issue of SKI magazine.  They
do a four page article on Seal snowboarding, how he got with ZTT, a little
about some new songs on the way and how he loves spending time at the
hospital for his snowboard accidents!  Its a FANTASTIC article!!!
Cheers,                                                                   Josh

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From: [e-mail] (Markus_Arnold)
Subject: 808 State Live
Date: 07 Jan 1996 03:12:12 +0100

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I have heard a rumour that 808 State will be playing live in Munich, Germany
on 2 March! I don't know if this is part of a tour (to promote the new album
maybe?) or just a one-off...
Any German fans out there who know more details?

Cheers

Markus



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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Discography Updated!
Date: 06 Jan 1996 20:31:39 -0700 (MST)

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The latest version of the discog is now up at:

    http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html
    ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/
    Email [e-mail] (with command GET ZTT)

There have been some minor format tweaks to accommodate automatic HTML
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From: Steve Browne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Another new subscriber
Date: 08 Jan 1996 09:00:00 PST

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Hi all, I've just joined the list. My main interest is FGTH, but other
ZTT stuff like AON etc. is still interesting for me.

Steve Browne


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From: Jez Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties"
Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:26:00 PST

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Hi

Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ??
Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through
was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack.  I wonder if there will be an
interview with Holly later in the series ????


Jez.


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From: sorenl <[e-mail]>
Subject: 808 remix of Wendell Williams
Date: 09 Jan 1996 10:54:40 +0100 (MET)

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Hi 808 State fans.

Can anybody varify the 808 State remix of Wendell Williams "Everybody" ?
I have a 3 track UK promo on DeConstruction without mix-details. Running
time? Different releases?

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From: Jez Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: Peter York's "The Eighties"
Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:57:00 PST

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From: Jez Hall
Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties"
Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:26


Hi

Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ??
Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through
was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack.  I wonder if there will be an
interview with Holly later in the series ????


Jez.


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From: Jez Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties"
Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:10:00 PST

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Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ??
Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through
was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack.  I wonder if there will be an
interview with Holly later in the series ????

Jez.


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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Holly reviewed
Date: 09 Jan 1996 14:13:23 +100

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Hello and happy New Year to everyone!

I've seen to Holly appearences on german TV in december:

1. "Angels" on ZDF was a recoding from 1994.
Hellen Terry (backround vocals on "legendary children")
interviewed several Popstars as Boy George, Holly and others about
the image of Angels in Rockmusic. "TPOL" was introduced.
Holly said that he does believe in a way in Angels.
He imagines himself rising up to heaven and his dog Funky expects him
with two little wings upon his bach and his tail wacking.

2. "JAM Special on Aids" on VIVA from 1995.
Interview of Jean-Paul Gaultier, Marc Almond, George Michal, Holly
Johnson (with close-ups of Funky), etc.
Holly appeared just 4 minutes, also he was the only interviewed
person who actually aquired HIV.
He made some good points ont the topics Aids and Homosexuality.
He said for instans that as beeing gay as a popstar you all of a
sudden become fodder to tabloid journalism. And that he had to answer
questions about his sexuality since the past 10 years, whereas for
example Sting or Phil Collins never have to aswer questions about
there sexuality.

That's it so far.

Take care everyone!

Till


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From: Jez Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties"
Date: 09 Jan 1996 13:46:00 PST

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One last try - sorry about this...........

Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ??
Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through
was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack.  I wonder if there will be an
interview with Holly later in the series ????

Jez.


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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Holly reviewed II
Date: 10 Jan 1996 12:01:09 +100

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 Sorry, but I was in a big hurry yesterday, so I made a lot of spelling
 mistakes. Here is an edited Version:




 Hello and happy New Year to everyone!

 I've seen two Holly appearences on german TV in december.
 Here's a brief summery:

 1. "Angels" on ZDF was a recording from 1994.
 Hellen Terry (backround vocals on "legendary children")
 interviewed several Popstars such as Boy George, Holly and others
 about the image of Angels in Rockmusic. "TPOL" was introduced.
 Holly said that he does believe in Angels in a certain way.
 He imagines himself rising up to heaven and his dog Funky expects him
 with two little wings upon his back and his tail wacking (cute,
 isn't it?).

 2. "JAM Special on Aids" on VIVA from 1995.
 Interviews of Jean-Paul Gaultier, Marc Almond, Red Hot Chilly
 Peppers, Die Doofen, George Michal, Holly > Johnson (with close-ups
 of Funky),
 etc. Holly (the only HIV pos. Person on that Interview show)
 appeared for about 4 minutes.
 He made some good points about the topics Aids and Homosexuality.
 He said for instance that beeing gay as a popstar you all of a
 sudden become fodder for tabloid journalism. He had to answer
 questions about his sexuality since the past 10 years, whereas for
 example Sting or Phil Collins never have to answer questions about
 there sexuality.

 That's all I heard from Holly so far.

 Take care everyone!

 Till




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From: Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Trainspotting
Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:01:12 +0000

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I haven't heard it mentioned, but there are some new TCH pieces on
Cher's new album. Didn't get the titles but there are about three or
four. (Un)interestingly enough there are some Lipson tracks on there
too. Might pick it up soon. What's the availability of Andrew Jap
material and Nasty Rox's album?



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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Trainspotting
Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:59:11 -0700 (MST)

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> What's the availability of Andrew Jap material and Nasty Rox's album?

I don't know who "Andrew Jap" is; if you mean Andrew Poppy both albums got
reissued for the Year Ten anniversary in 1994.  Unfortunately NRI's didn't;
I've been looking since it came out and I *still* have never found a copy.

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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Administrivia: Advertising Policy
Date: 12 Jan 1996 19:53:55 -0700 (MST)

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In response to some questions people have posed about my feelings towards
advertising on these lists, I've added a short blurb on this issue to the
list information file, as follows:

  * The list is not meant to be used as an advertising forum, though short
    notices of the form "I have <this sort of thing> for sale; please email
    me for a full list" are acceptable as long as the items for sale are
    directly relevant to the topic of the mailing list.

We haven't really had any abuse of any of these lists for advertising
purposes, it just seemed appropriate to let everyone know where I stand
ahead of time.  And of course I reserve the right to call a halt to any
behavior I consider inapproriate, whether or not it seems "acceptable" by a
letter-for-letter reading of the list info file.

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From: mark wasiel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Trainspotting
Date: 14 Jan 1996 21:43:44 -0800 (PST)

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On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

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> > What's the availability of Andrew Jap material and Nasty Rox's album?
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> I don't know who "Andrew Jap" is; if you mean Andrew Poppy both albums got
> reissued for the Year Ten anniversary in 1994.  Unfortunately NRI's didn't;
> I've been looking since it came out and I *still* have never found a copy.

I think he means Philip Jap who Trevor Horn produced a couple tracks for
A&M records.  It's in Jorge's TCH discography.

mark


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From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Another dumb question
Date: 15 Jan 1996 10:29:45 -0800

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A *long* time ago, I read that Trevor Horn picked the name because it
sounded like a drum beat; I believe this "quote" was from an adoring FGTH
fan-book ca. 1985. (I've got the book at home, wonderful picture of Holly in
Western "Ride Me" gear on the cover, so I'll take a peek tonight for an
actual reference.) Given the label's "Everything Manufactured For Your
Pleasure" approach to history and how many consistency problems there are
with the name in some early AON and FGTH singles (I've seen Zang Tumb Tumb
and Zang Tuum Tumb) it's probably made up and not some Morley-derived
cultural reference.

- - Ian

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>    I have since a long time wondered what Zang Tuum Tumb actually means.
>    Could
>    anyone answer me or direct me to a FAQ, please?
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From: "Thomas Romlov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Another dumb question
Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:51:42 +0100

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On 15 Jan 96 A.D. at 10:29, Ian Ferrell (Exchange) conveyed:

> A *long* time ago, I read that Trevor Horn picked the name because
> it sounded like a drum beat; I believe this "quote" was from an

"Quote; FGTH Express2;

Zang Tuum Tumb were the words an Italian futurist of the 1800s used
to describe the sound of machine gun fire or, depending on the many
literary moods of Paul Morley, the sound of pennies dropping on a
double bass"

Somewhere there is even a reference to who actually said it, but I
can't seem to find it now.

I'll protect you from the hooded claw,
keep the vampires from your door....

Thomas.



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From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Another dumb question
Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:44:42 -0800

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Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON
claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises". I believe
this claim is on an "In Visible Silence"-era single. His purported picture
in on the liner notes to "In Visible Silence" and he is also quoted on the
sleeve for "Legs" and "Paranoimia" (sans Headroom)? Evidently, he was a real
person, though I've never run across any other references to him or his
work. (Then again, Seattle is not a hotbed of 19th century Italian
futurism...)

I've never run across any reference to Mr. Future (can't remember the name,
believe it starts with "R") from the ZTT days; all I've seen of him is from
the early albums when AON fled to China/Chrysalis and John Pasche started
doing their album art direction in faux-Morley style.

I'll definitely dig up the FGTH love-fest book tonight and look for refs to
Mr. Future.

I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone know
what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with music/art
direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent ZTT
reissues/remixes/retreads?

Regards,

- - ian

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>    > A *long* time ago, I read that Trevor Horn picked the name because
>    > it sounded like a drum beat; I believe this "quote" was from an
>
>    "Quote; FGTH Express2;
>
>    Zang Tuum Tumb were the words an Italian futurist of the 1800s used
>    to describe the sound of machine gun fire or, depending on the many
>    literary moods of Paul Morley, the sound of pennies dropping on a
>    double bass"
>
>    Somewhere there is even a reference to who actually said it, but I
>    can't seem to find it now.
>
>    I'll protect you from the hooded claw,
>    keep the vampires from your door....
>
>    Thomas.
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>
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From: Dean Engelhardt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Another dumb question
Date: 16 Jan 1996 10:37:39 +1030 (CST)

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[regarding the name Zang Tuum Tuum]:
>
> Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON
> claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises".

Yes ... those would be the same futurists, the movement of Italian artists
active around the beginning of this century. Although I'm certainly no
expert on this sort of thing (heaven forbid!), I do know that these guys
attempted to apply their artistic ideas to many many areas of living. Thus
there were futurist manifestos published about things ranging from literature
to  cooking, social mores to styles of clothing. There was one published
by a guy called Luigi Russolo concerning the futurist stance on music; it was
called "The Art of Noises." Basically, this slim volume (I found a copy in
the University library here, it's only a few pages) describes the futurists
dissatisfaction with the state that the performance of music (classical music,
of course) had reached -- they thought it was tired and stale. As a radical
alternative they proposed using noises from everyday life to make "music."
The manifesto categorises noises into five (I think) classes which would
make up sections of their futurist orchestra. I believe BTW that there was
at least one performance by this orchestra sometime around 1920.

Anyway ... getting back to the question about "Zang Tuum Tuum" .. the
name as far as I know derives from the work of another one of the futurists,
a poet whose name I can't recall (I think it began with 'A'). This man was
one of the principals of the movement and like many of its members volunteered
to fight for Italy in WW1. During his service he wrote a novel about the
siege of a city (based on something he experienced). It was called "Zang Tumb
Tuuum;" the words were supposed to resemble the sound of some of the large
guns that were constantly pounding the city.

Yes, I know this all sounds highly improbable. But these people were like
that. Which is presumably why Morley picked on them to base the early ZTT
image around.


Dean

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[e-mail] |  is to quote another's wit" - C.N.Bovee


PS: The web page http://pharmdec.wustl.edu/juju/surr/futurism/FUTCAST3.html
    talks about some theatre group's interpretation of Zang Tumb Tuuum.
    Just goes to show you can find all the weirdest stuff on WWW.


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From: Dean Engelhardt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Another dumb question
Date: 16 Jan 1996 11:01:28 +1030 (CST)

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I wrote:
>
> Anyway ... getting back to the question about "Zang Tuum Tuum" .. the
> name as far as I know derives from the work of another one of the futurists,
> a poet whose name I can't recall (I think it began with 'A').

Oops ... checking my facts, it looks like the name of the author was
Filippo Marinetti. Goes to show how good *my* memory is :-)


D.

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From: Paul Herman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Another dumb question
Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:41:16 -0800 (PST)

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> [regarding the name Zang Tuum Tuum]:
> >
> > Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON
> > claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises".
> [snip!]

Hi! (my first post to this group)

A while back, I took a music appreciation class and we had to buy a
supplemental book for the class... So then the class ended and a few years
later I was thumbing through it and to my astonishment I found a paper
called....

"The Art of Noises"!!!

Imagine my astonishment when I started reading the very paper that AON
had talked about in their liner notes. (Guess what, the author's name
escapes me, too!)

Anyway, I'm away at school now, but next week I'll go home to pick up
that book and transcribe the article for you. If you can't wait, the
book is called "Music in the western world" or something (It is maroon
paperback with a big hand with writing on it, on the cover) and it is by
(I think) Weiss.

It's a great book if you're into reading about music.

I'll be back in a couple weeks!

- -Paul.

P.S. Although he talks about the orchestra of the future, I don't recall
him mentioning "Zang Tuum Tuum", although I could be wrong.


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From: "Henrik Lundstroem" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Another dumb question
Date: 16 Jan 1996 12:59:17 GMT +0100

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> Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON
> claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises". I believe
> this claim is on an "In Visible Silence"-era single. His purported picture
> in on the liner notes to "In Visible Silence" and he is also quoted on the
> sleeve for "Legs" and "Paranoimia" (sans Headroom)? Evidently, he was a real
> person, though I've never run across any other references to him or his
> work. (Then again, Seattle is not a hotbed of 19th century Italian
> futurism...)
>
> I've never run across any reference to Mr. Future (can't remember the name,
> believe it starts with "R") from the ZTT days; all I've seen of him is from
> the early albums when AON fled to China/Chrysalis and John Pasche started
> doing their album art direction in faux-Morley style.
>
> I'll definitely dig up the FGTH love-fest book tonight and look for refs to
> Mr. Future.
>
> I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone know
> what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with music/art
> direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent ZTT
> reissues/remixes/retreads?


I've got a small essay at home regarding the Futurist movement (if
you're interested...

I'm very interested in modernism - this is in fact how I got
interested in ZTT (the record label), I thought "Wow, a record label
inspired by Italian Futurismo!".

Unfortunately, mr Morley doesn't always seem to know what he is
talking about - sometimes it's more like "Wow! This is cool - I'll
use this for the next ZTT record sleeve".

Henrik.


Henrik Lundstroem
Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology,
Gothenburg, Sweden

Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence

"Mrs Peel, we're needed!"


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From: Jez Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: Another dumb question
Date: 17 Jan 1996 12:42:00 PST

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Mr Morley was on "Peter York's Eighties" last week rabbiting on about
style and, in particular, Spandau Ballet.  No mention about what he's up
to at the mo, though.

Jez.


>I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone know
>what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with music/art
>direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent ZTT
>reissues/remixes/retreads?


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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Another dumb question
Date: 17 Jan 1996 16:35:49 +0100

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On Jan 15,  2:44pm, Ian Ferrell (Exchange) wrote:
> Subject: RE: Another dumb question
> [...]
> I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone
> know what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with
> music/art direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent
> ZTT reissues/remixes/retreads?

I don't know about his latest whereabouts, but I've heard that he was
conducting his own record-label called "Sense" a few years ago.  I also
don't know if this label still exists, but I know they have released some
wonderous stuff by "The Wonderstuff" (even including a UK#1 featuring Vic
Reeves).  The record's artwork is supposed to by typically Morley-esque,
I've been told...

Zang Tuum Tumb
Joerg

P.S.:  I had the luck to travel to New York for a week, about 6 (hell,
       it's really that long already!) years ago.
       Guess what my eyes were to find in the Museum of Modern Art there:
       A PICTURE by original futurist (one of the "Mr Futurists" referred
       to as in the recent postings here) Filippo Tommaso A. Marinetti
       [this A's for you, Dean!]!!!  It was just a big page of paper on
       which the words ZANG TUUM TUMB (or variations of it) were written
       hundred's of times in different size and shape...


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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Q 4 F
Date: 19 Jan 1996 12:56:45 +100

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QUEST FOR FRANKIE:

Since almost 9 years I've been on the quest for a videorecoding of the
legendary FgtH-Tour '87.
I tried to find it literally everywhere. Now, I finally recieved a
Tape including Kiel '87 (good quality) and Brussels '87 (poor
quality).
It's good to refresh old memorys of one of the most exciting concerts
of pop-history (no exaggeration).


Bye,  Till


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From: sorenl <[e-mail]>
Subject: 808 State to State
Date: 19 Jan 1996 15:42:55 +0100 (MET)

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Hello Z-people.

I'm glad to present a christmas present for all 808 State fans (better late
than never). Last week I saw the 808 State Partyzone special for the first
time in 4 mounths. And I guess I realized how great an interview it is. So I
went on and typed the whole thing down!

I must be crazy or something like that. But it was the first big amount of 808
State information I had. It was the first time I got their names confirmed as
well!!?! After 3 years as a fan (another story, quite sad actually)! The second
information boost was this of course - the internet.

I've done this because the interview is superb, and because I would like to
see more of that here on the mail-group. Start to spread 808 information
fellows. Not necessary rip offs like this. But post questions, answers, facts,
small stories etc.

Happy New Year! Now make yourself a good cup of tea and enjoy.

PS. At anytime the interview is available ziped and UUE encoded by e-mailing
me. Also as WP 6.0 doc.

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     .Elevative Music Appetence Is Lovely.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
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.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._sorenl - Denmark - [e-mail].


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                           The 808 State Interview
                           -----------------------

Featured in the special 808 State edition of The Partyzone. Broadcasted on
August 4, 1994 on MTV Europe.

Written down on January 8, 1996 by Soren Larsen (Denmark).
Current e-mail account: [e-mail]

Thanks to Markus Arnold. E-mail account: [e-mail]

Copyright 1996 Soren Larsen. Credited Reproduction Allowed.


- --------


A brief introduction:

808 State is a Manchester (England) based techno band. They started out in
1988 with the acidhouse album "Newbuild". What they built was an ability to
make the electronic instruments sound alive. Through out the years they've
increased the use of live instruments and vocalists in their productions. The
result is unique and versatile music. I usually say: "They're Never the Same
Twice".

This is such a great interview! It tells a lot about 808 State. It's for
808 State fans all over the world. State to State.


Communicate with 808 State:

State to State - PO Box 808, Hook, RG29 1UF, United Kingdom

E-mail account: [e-mail]

World Wide Web URL: http://www.feedback.com/808


- --------


The interview. Persons involved:

S: Simone - the host.

A: Andrew Barker.

G: Graham Massey.

D: Darren Partington.


Other explanations:

The Partyzone - A two hour dance music show broadcasted once a week on MTV
Europe.

The Hacienda - A famous Manchester club. The first place where house music
started in England.

The catwalk - Bombadin received a world premiere as the finale music to the
Todd Oldham Winter 1994 fashion show in New York.

The 808 State radio show - It started in the late 80's on Manchester radio
stations. Now broadcasted on Kiss 102 Manchester. For more information check
MC Tunes: "The North At It's Heights" (sleeve information) and
URL: http://www.u-net.com/kiss102/808.html


- --------


1. Part - "next" trailer. (Music: Plan 9)


S:     "Right. Whatever you've got planned tonight, do not leave the house,
       because a very special Partyzone is gonna come your way with very
       special co-host - 808 State."


- --------


2. Part - intro. (Music: One In Ten)


D:     "Hey we're 808 State -"

G:     "- and you're watching -"

A:     "- The Partyzone on MTV."


- --------


3. Part (Music: Reaper Repo)


S:     "Right this is it. The Partyzone and a very special one because for the
       first time ever we've got co-host. Yes. Dance music will no longer be
       faceless. 808 State - getting pretty hot here in these lights."

D:     "Yeah. On the couch. Sat down - chillin' out."

S:     "Real couch potatoes. Listen. A lot of people probably don't know you
       guys. But you've had eight albums out, 15 singles. I never realised it
       was that much. Well - been pretty busy?"

D:     "Very busy."

A:     "We've been busy for 5 years."

S:     "So what about since the last album, since Gorgeous. By the way who's
       gorgeous? I mean, why Gorgeous?"

A:     "It was named after him." [pointing at Graham]

D:     "We've been busy. We hide a lot in the studio. We do a lot of
       production for other people and at the moment we're working on our own
       album. So. We're hidden away in little rooms. In Manchester - in
       Sheffield."

S:     "Excuse me. You're hidden away in little rooms, and you've got a suntan
       like that."

D:     "I fell asleep in the sun. Yeah - we do get days off. We
       should have sunbeds in the studio." [Laughing]

S:     "Well. How flash. Anyway there's a lot to talk about with these guys.
       And we will, so stay tuned for that. But first up to get in the mood
       and to have some 808 State videos. Here is Pacific State."


Video showed: "Pacific"


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4. Part (Music: Plan 9)


S:     "Still here on the sofa with 808 State. Collaborations! You guys have
       collaborated with so many people right. Here goes a list, if I can
       remember the whole list. David Bowie, Quincy Jones, New Order, UB40,
       Bjork ehh..."

D:     "Yeah. We do a lot of remixes. A lot of them were collaborations on our
       own albums. We have been commissioned to do a lot of remixes in our
       time. And we've turned quite a lot down as well."

S:     "So you say. You're not busy in the studio with all these people."

D:     "Sometimes yeah. Sometimes no. The stuff with Bjork was on our own
       album, so we did it with her in the studio. A lot of times we just get
       the tape. We do the remixes and the people say: Yeah we like it lets
       go with it."

G:     "We prefer working in the studio because there's more like an exchange
       going on. It shakes you out of the normal routine."

S:     "It was brilliant you guys did that Bjork-thing because I was like such
       a big Sugarcubes fan and all the sudden she just jumped into the dance
       scene. Like 'yes - brilliant'. Loved that."

G:     "She just did it so instantly as well. We did about two tunes in one
       day."

D:     "She came into the studio. We gave her a walkman. She puts the walkman
       on. She walks out of the studio in the rain, and walked around this
       place near Manchester and came back with the lyrics. She took the
       stairs and said: I got the lyrics. She walks into the booth, and went
       bang."

G:     "It's often one of the elements that's missing in techno. Spontaneity.
       It's nice to put people like that in amongst it."

D:     "It was the same with Bernard from New Order. It was just like, walked
       into the studio. Let me here the tune. Right. What do you think? You
       throw ideas across, and he goes into the vocal booth and put the lyrics
       down. Bang - bang."

       "That's how we like to work. It's not like working with samples. When
       we borrow peoples samples and we play around with them. It's like
       borrowing a piece of that person, giving it a new environment and put
       it in a dance club."

G:     "And we pay."

A,D:   "YEAH. WE PAY!"

A:     "Heavily. Heavily. Big. Lots of money like..."

S:     "Is it difficult because it seems like people who make dance music -
       as soon as a singer comes in they're really lost, cause you can't just
       press a button and go: I produced this little note here. Is it
       sometimes difficult? Well you of course you..."

A:     "I think we're quite good at songs cause we don't have a vocalist. So
       when you put someone in to do a song it's like a really experience."

D:     "The vocalists we've used have been really good. We're talking Bjork
       and Bernard. We only work with people that we can work with. We have
       been asked to work with other people and we've said: Well maybe not.
       And we work on some of our own stuff. It's having the choice that have
       been the good thing. That's why we've been around so long. We've been
       able to choose the right thing. And hopefully we know what works in
       dance clubs."

S:     "Is it true that you had some troubles with David Bowie over a sample?
       That you had to pay an enormous amount of money. Is that a bit true or
       not?"

G:     "It's never been a problem with David Bowie, but a problem with David
       Bowies lawyer. We ended up after that with sort of remixing "Sound and
       Vision" for him and everyone was quite happy."

S:     "So what about your views on sampling?"

D:     "It's open, you know what I mean. There's a lot of people making money
       out of sampling now a days. And sampling are, when done properly very
       creative. You can really mess around with it and come up with something
       really good."

G:     "I think. It's still our main instrument. But there's like 1001
       different ways of using it. It's not like that obvious corny way like
       "Pump Up the Volume" used it. It's gone way beyond that now."

D:     "And I think dance music now has gone global anyway. You can hear a
       tune and you don't know where it's coming from. You can hear a great
       sample. It could be a David Bowie sample or a Rolling Stones sample and
       you can use it in any shape or form. That's what makes dance music so
       creative."

S:     "And we're gonna have a look at it right now. I think it's the UB40
       track you did that's gonna come up -  first up though "The Only Rhyme
       That Bites"."


Videos showed: "The Only Rhyme That Bites"
               "One In Ten"


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5. Part (Music: One In Ten (UB40 Instrumental))


S:     "Right. My favourite part of the show where I can just completely shut
       up and sit back and relax and..."

D:     [Bugging Simone]

G:     "VJ. VJ."

D:     "VJ in the house. I chose a video for one reason. It's guy that runs
       our record label - owns our record label. And in this video - is one
       of our synthesizers." [sounding excited]

G:     "Three!"

D:     "It's this beautiful - lovely synthesizer with lots and lots of knobs
       on it. Check this video out, it's blinding! Buggles: "Video Killed the
       Radio Star"."

       [Graham and Darren are bugging each other]

G:     "I've chosen Beastie Boys ["Sabotage"] because it's the best album of
       the year, and it's a bit creative and it's very loose."

D:     "And they look like you in the video!" [bugging Graham]

A:     "I chose Sonic Youth: "100%". Only reason why is cause I like the video
       and it's got some top dudes and they are skateboarding. Here they are."


- --------


6. Part (Music: One In Ten (UB40 Vocal))


S:     "You are all really busy right now because you are doing something very
       special. You are starting a fan club. Now sorry, but isn't that a "Take
       That" kind of thing to do."

G:     "Well. We haven't got pillow cases yet." [smiling]

S:     "It's like. You have these little magazines with you as a two year old
       smiling next to your mum and dad."

G:     "No. It's more like a techno version of it."

D:     "We've been together for 6 years. And being signed to a major label
       like we are. And worldwide. We do tour a lot. You do get a lot of
       people asking you: Is there anywhere I can get information about the
       band. We took our time because we've been offered a lot of fan clubs
       along the way and we've turned it down because of just what you said.
       We're not an image band. We're about music. And we was approached with
       this really good idea that combined a lot of things. Not just a fan
       club with a magazine and a couple of pictures. It's a lot wider than
       that. And I'll pass it on to Andrew."

S:     "So."

A:     "The fan club will have a CD once a year, which is a second album. So
       as long as we go there's another album which goes with it. Cause we
       have lots of stuff in a big bin we've not put out yet."

G:     "There are always too many mixes and too many sort of things that don't
       get released. You can only release maybe about 12 tracks a year and
       we're doing about 40 tracks a year."

S:     "Workaholics?"

G:     "Well. It's just experimenting. We do a lot of experimenting and a lot
       of it only works in certain contexts. Plus a lot of people are
       interested. Whether the record company wants to sell the stuff we make
       is another matter."

S:     "Right. That's gonna happen when you become member of this State..."

G,D:   "State to State."

S:     "They get a special album. Yeah. As soon as you're full member..."

G:     "Yeah. It's got all kinds on it. It's got unreleased material, some
       live stuff on it and collaborations."

D:     "It's a lot more than a fan club. It's not the basic ones you know fan
       club. It's based on the Internet with the e-mail stuff and people can
       ask us direct questions. Because we're not an image conscious band and
       we don't do that many interviews in magazines and such."

       "People who are really into the music can ask us questions of how we
       make the music and why we make the music and what instruments we use.
       And you can do that by the e-mail stuff. All the information is in the
       package when you join. And you get to talk to the band direct. You
       don't get to hear what the band has to say through all the dance
       publications and all the sorts of music magazines. You get to talk to
       us direct. Through this fan club direct. There's a lot of time and
       effort we've put into it."

S:     "So you are full front again. That's good."

D:     "Hope so."

S:     "Hmm. I think so."

G:     "There's a few people with it now. I think it's a trend for the future.
       There's a lot of people working their fan bases that way. You know. You
       can't really rely on the casual buyer that much."

       "It's taking the responsibility into your own hands of the music you
       are doing, and be able to be more spontaneous with it. Cause you got
       more contacts with people who are actually generally interested rather
       than the sort of casual..."

D:     "Yeah. We got involved because of that reason. Because we can talk to
       people in San Francisco in the dance scene. We can talk to people in
       Japan, we can talk to people in the States very easy, just by sitting
       against a computer and throwing out messages and information. Lets say
       we go on tour, we know what raves and parties there're happening at
       that time and we know what music's happening. It's a communication
       center. Really."

G:     "Yeah, we're involved in a scene which is to do with a lot of
       discommunication. A lot of the times when there was like big raves
       going off, we were apparently playing all over the place. And people
       were misusing the name..."

S:     "Yeah. The same what happens Partyzone. We're supposed to be
       everywhere. Well listen, 808 State are here. Stay tuned for more with
       them later on. First up, some more music."


Video showed: Plan 9


- --------


7. Part (Music: Nbambi)


S:     "Now. One more thing about this Internet, computer network thing you
       guys work on right. Because it's so new there's no kind of censorship
       on it at all. Are you gonna make any use of that?"

G:     "Yeah. That's one of the appealing things about it. It's not actually
       run by advertisers yet. It's one of the pure forms of communications
       left."

S:     "You know, in Britain you get censored like mad. You can't even have
       stuff like naked bodies on television and on these computer networks
       you can just send anything you want around."

A:     "We could have pictures of Graham naked." [laughing]

S:     "Not that I'm suggesting that's what you should do..."

A:     "What it's about. It's about that our fans will get it straight from
       us rather than going through a magazine. You can ask us questions,
       personal or whatever. Anything about the kit. And you'll get the
       answers straight away. Straight to you..."

G:     "We can talk to other people doin' music and exchange information."

D:     "Because dance music is a global thing! It's nice to pop up on a
       computer and see what's happening in Japan. And you can incorporate
       that into your music. It's gonna be a very big boost for 808 State,
       knowing what's going on globally."

S:     "So look. Err. Look what have you got there on your lap?" [looking at
       Andrew]

D:     "Don't give it away. Nooo." [shoutin']

S:     "Now. What's gonna happen. The first person who's gonna write to your
       State to State fan club - is gonna get this. Just like that. You don't
       have to answer any difficult questions. What is it exactly?"

A:     "It's a Roland R8 human rhythm composer. A drum machine in a word."

D:     "As used by us."

S:     "And you get a t-shirt with it as well?"

A:     "Yeah. You get some of these." [pointing at Grahams football t-shirt
       with the butterfly logo] "And you might get some of these." [Graham is
       showing Bombadin US12", Newbuild LP, Gorgeous (Disco Disc edition) LP
       and Ex:El LP]

D:     "Freebies."

S:     "So easy one. You don't have to answer any questions. All you gotta do
       is just write to this address. 808 Sta... no 808. State to State. PO
       Box 808, Hook, Basingstoke, RG25 1UF, in England."

       "I bet there was something else I wanted to ask you, but I've just
       completely forgot. I know a video we're gonna watch. Great video. And
       you know this video: "Stakker Humanoid". Something must have happened
       in my past that's gone into my subconscious. Cause as soon as this tune
       comes on I just get the biggest grin."

A,G,D: [laughing]

S:     "I love it. It's coming your way, right now." [smiling]


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8. Part (Music: Femme Deluxe)


S:     "Like The Grid, The Future Sound of London and The Orb. You guys are
       really in with this whole visual computer graphic thing, aren't ..."
       [Andrew looking suspicious] "Or am I completely wrong here?"

G:     "Yeah. To an extent."

S:     "To an extent. Where do you see all this going? Have you done certain
       projects? Like special video projects, that's what I was told anyway...
       Well my fabulous producer, you better be right about this one!"
       [shoutin' out of the set]

D:     "Not at all! A lot of other bands are. We're a dance band - what's
       about music. I mean, there's a lot of dance bands that put out these
       chill-out videos and ambient videos. We've never done that. We've never
       ever done that. That's one field we never really got into. Our videos
       have always been diverse and very weird. That's why no-one could ever
       follow 808 State - as a band, as a production team."

S:     "So is that through your own input that your videos have always been
       weird?"

A:     "Yeah. Cause a lot of the computer graphics there're around at the
       moment... It cost a lot of money to get the really good ones. So we've
       tried to avoid getting the bad ones."

D:     "Sometimes it can work in a very cold way. In our videos we like to use
       us and show people who are making the music. Cause a lot of these
       computer videos - a bloke walking down the road, turning and drinking
       a cup of tea [Darren is showing how :-)] is a bit limited to a degree.
       Unless you got a lot of money. Unless you're Peter Gabriel and people
       like that."

G:     "I think it's getting better now. It's getting more affordable. It's
       getting into the hand of people who can start messing it around.
       I mean initially, I think a lot of that early computer-generated
       stuff is gonna look like those sort of posters - like Jimmy Hendrix."

D:     "Yeah and the tennis game. [Darren is showing with the hands] You know
       what I mean."

S:     "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."

G:     "And it's certainly developing now, cause it's in the hands of people
       who can twist it a bit."

S:     "Anyway we're gonna have a look at one band who like to use all these
       technologies. It's The Grid and "Flotation"."


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9. Part (Music: Lemon)


S:     "Now 808 State of course. In the beginning, played a lot at the
       Hacienda. I mean did you play there a lot or ...?"

A:     "Once."

S:     "Only once!" [surprised]

D:     "As a band. - We were there a lot. Dancing and prancing."

S:     "Is it true by the way that it's really getting better again, cause I
       heard that a lot of people are going back there now."

A:     "We might be playing there."

S:     "You might be playing there?"

A:     "Or we might have played there." [sounding suspicious]

S:     "So mysterious, ehh."

D:     "The Hacienda has always ... I mean if you look at places like
       Blackpool you've got Blackpool Tower. Manchester has got The Hacienda.
       You know what I mean. It's always been a focus point especially on the
       dance culture. It's nice to go there, they do get a lot of good guest
       DJs. But there are other clubs in Manchester that deserve a mention."

S:     "Like here you go."

D:     "Yeah. There's like Home and The Paradise Factory. There's new clubs
       coming up all the time. There's a lot of clubs there're pretty young
       when you look at Manchester. All doing different styles of dance
       music."

S:     "So what about globally, cause you toured US, Japan -  Europe of
       course. What do you think about the dance scene in all these different
       places?"

G:     "We did Singapore which was really brilliant, cause it had such an
       innocence about it that we tend to miss now. Everyone is such an expert
       on clubbing, and you forget that there shouldn't be any experts on
       clubbing cause it's just about having a good time. And the good thing
       about playing Singapore was that it was really innocent and they were
       really up for it in a different kind of way. They saw it for what it
       was."

S:     "Yeah. It all gets a bit too serious."

G,D:   "Yeah it does."

D:     "Everybody is an expert."

S:     "What about Europe? What do you think about the differences between the
       countries?"

D:     "It's mutated a lot. If you look at the harthouse stuff. I mean when
       you look at England a lot of people at going for the garage and the
       disco stuff on a global scale. I think there's some great music in all
       terms of dance music. But you have to look at the Europeans for the
       hard strong Euro stuff. That's what they are very good at."

G:     "I think the English is a little more experimenting and wigged-out."

S:     "Well. A little bit more 808 coming you way. Here is "Timebomb"."


Video showed: "Time Bomb"


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10. Part (Music: Purple Dust)


S:     "Right. We're at the end of the show now are you lost or OK there."
       [laughing] "Ohh God. The show is so long. Now. Your music has even hit
       the cat walks right?"

A:     "Yeah."

S:     "Would you ever produce them? Any sexy ladies in the studio is that
       your idea of fun?"

A:     "If they can sing, yeah."

S:     "If they can sing. Really. You're really interested in that."

A:     "If they can sing."

S:     "Oh well. So they better stay on the catwalks?"

A:     "Yeah." [laughing]

S:     "Anyway. Thanks for being on the show. Is there anything really special
       lined up that people should watch out for?"

D:     "The brand new album. We're really exited about it. And that is not a
       corny phrase. We are. We spend a lot of time on this new album. That's
       why we've come up today to do this. It's just to say like: We're still
       around, we're very busy. Hopefully towards the end of this year and the
       start of next year, the new album will be there and 808 State will
       storm in a big way."

G:     "New single out this week "Bombadin"."

A:     "And the new radio show starring..."

D:     "Domination of 808 State. Is on."

S:     "Radio show on what ...?"

A:     "In Manchester. It's a new station."

S:     "You guys are always in Manchester! What about us?" [upset]

G:     "How many listeners?" [pointing at Andrew]

A:     "Listeners. 65000."

G:     "We've been going on for five years now with the 808 State radio show
       and the radio station has just been overtaken by a new company."

S:     "OK now. As promised right, we're out of here. But you promised me a
       bit of your dance routine. And I know the new album is out [???] so I'm
       sure you guys have a brand new dance routine that you want to show the
       rest of the world. So - so."

       [The 808 guys are taking off their mics and getting up. Simone pretends
       not to notice.]

A,G,D: "So. So. ON YOUR MARKS. GET SET. GO!"

       [They're running out of the set while laughing.]

S:     [crying] "Ohh. What are you doing. I was waiting for my routine. It
       will be all over. Oh well, I'll dance my own little bit then and if you
       like I'll see you back next week. I don't like this."

       [Simone is dancing and laughing in her chair as Purple Dust fades out]


Video showed: The Partyzone Massive vs. 808 State "State to State"

       0:00   Intro: Pacific & 10 x 10
       0:35   In Yer Face
       1:10   10 x 10
       1:20   Sexy Synthesizer
       1:40   Lift
       2:10   Bombadin
       2:40   Marathon
       3:15   One In Ten
       3:50   Marathon
       4:25   Colony
       4:35   Olympic '93
       5:30   The Fat Shadow
       6:00   [The End]

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From: [e-mail] (Tom McClintock)
Subject: ZTT book
Date: 19 Jan 1996 10:26:21

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get a copy of the 10th
aniversarry ZTT book put out last year or the year before?  Thanks
for any help.


tom mcclintock

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Subject: Spinmasters / 808 State
Date: 22 Jan 1996 01:00:12 +0200

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Hi there 808 State fans.

Their last commercial release was 'Bombadin' way back in 1994, and with 'Pump'
and it's parent album threatening to become a saga of Beatlesque 'Get Back/
Let It Be' proportions, i thought you might like (re)reading this NME article
from late 1990. I've included it as originally printed, with (minor)
corrections or elucidations in [  ]. If anybody is interested in purchasing
mint 808 State, MC Tunes or FGTH collectibles, i can recommend a very
reliable UK-based mail order company. And they're on the Net !! Drop me a line
for more info.

Here goes ...

JOCK'S RAP
- Mandi James
New Musical Express, 15 December 1990

You may need no introduction to THE SPINMASTERS, but Darren [Daz] Partington
and Andrew [Andy] Barker have a reputation which precedes their current
status as popstars. They have been the names behind the wildest nights in the
Northern hemisphere and are currently reviving flagging enthusiasm, stirring
the atmosphere to fever pitch and drawing people back into the clubs.

Andy and Darren began DJing when they hit double figures, cutting vinyl [as
part of The Hitsquad M/Cr] at the local Salvation Army Youth Club when most
of their peer group were in bed before sundown. Before Manchester's
Thunderdome disappeared in a fiery inferno and became a target of gun-toting
villains, The Spinmasters were drawing crowds of over 1,000 [1 000 not 1.000]
to their Saturday night/Sunday morning communion.

Enter the Soundgarden, it's low ceilings, high atmosphere, beer slopped floor
and (hyper) ventilation taking the politics of dancing right back to basics.
Good solid tunes, good soggy clothing and good, packed dancefloor.

"A lot of people have said they hadn't bothered going out since the Thunder-
dome, they've migrated straight to the Soundgarden. We're playing probably
the hardest music in town which caters to a real specific crowd."

Scaring the pants off the uninitiated and sending old faithfuls potty, The
Spinmasters' night at the Soundgarden is a welcome change to one dimensional
dance floors and dot to dot DJing. And if weekend binges aren't enough to
sate your appetite, Spinmasters host a Tuesday night radio show on
Manchester's Sunset Radio. [When i last heard, it was weekend evenings on
Manchester's KISS FM].

Although confined to limited airwaves, the show has hit cult status and is
gradually seeping all over the country [via digital quality CD bootlegs] -
playing the hottest selection of "them tunes what are bangin'" and stitching
the tracks together with chaotic humour, surreal adverts and the legendary
problem page.

PARADISE 10  [Spinmasters' Fave Rave spins]

 1. IN YOUR [YER] FACE, 808 State, Tommy Boy [ZTT]
 2. MAGNIFY MANIFESTATION, DI, Tam Tam
 3. ULTIMO, Imperio Atahualapa, DFC
 4. FATHER FORGIVE THEM (TRENT'S MIX), Holy Noise, Hithouse Records
 5. THE CALLING, Fade II Black, Network
 6. Q, Mental Cube, Debut
 7. SPLIFFHEAD, The Ragga Twins, Shut Up And Dance
 8. FERRARI, Project 1, Tam Tam
 9. KEEP IT UP (CHILLING REMAKE), YBU [featuring Anneli Mrian Drecker], SSR
10. WHITE LIGHT, Secret Desire, Vinyl Solution

 * Spinmasters play at Trance, Man Alive Club (Wednesday) & The Soundgarden,
   Back Picadilly (Saturday)


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From: sorenl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Just a small story
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:05:31 +0100 (MET)

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Hej Zs


Yesterday - Was P-day.

I've been on this maillist for some time now. All the talk about the
different ZTT acts have made me curious. I want to know what music they've
made. Especially whose I didn't know before I made it to the internet. Like -
Propaganda. And then it happend yesterday. I went to a second hand shop in
my hometown and guess what. I found "A Secret Wish" and "Wishful Thinking"
on LPs and both were mint condition. I was very surprised. In Denmark!? The
country in which there's almost only pop-music and lame compilations.

Anyway I bought the records, and now I've heard both a couple of times. And
you know. That's actually some damn good music. Wonderful stereo perspective.
Great produced. 80s synth when it's best. And of course I've heard some of
it before. Actually "Jewel" has been the intro-music to the radio program
"Det Elektriske Barometer" for a very long time. Broadcasted once a week on
national Danish radio!!?

And they've been sampled! I love it, when I hear some old records and I can
spot original samples. The first thing I played was "Dream Within a Dream"
and I recognised it at once from some recent techno record. The computer-
static at the start of "P-Machinery" has been used on some 1991 German
vacuum-cleaner-techno with the title "It's the New Style". (Help me here
Marcus). The "1-2-3-4" from "Jewel" is multi-sampled on 1990 Euro dance
records. So I guess they've inspired a lot of people.

Anyway. You have inspired my to buy Propaganda records. Thanks.

PS. Going though the archives I've found out that "Lopez" the radio1
track by 808 State has been available in a longer MPEG-version than the
22 sek. AU-version from WebState. Could anyone PLEASE mail my that
encoded in some way OR could anyone PLEASE tell me where it's available
on the net. THANKS.

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