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From: [e-mail] (Joerg Fitzner)
Subject: (ztt) The Power Of Love 99-00
Date: 06 Mar 2000 19:55:23 +0100


Hi!

Apparently ZTT plan to officially release that "The Power Of Love 99"
bootleg trance remix, which surfaced late last year, since it got some
prominent airplay.

Found this note on their website (which is currently better than ever):

Z> A newly commissioned trance mix of the Frankie classic 'The Power Of
A> Love' is creating a buzz in the clubs and receiving airplay from both
N> Pete Tong and Dave Pearce. First news of the official release will on
G> this site in the next week or two.

I hope it really is that mix, because it's really good. Much better than
Holly's own re-version, IMHO. (Although you can't really compare them.)


BTW, it seems the rumoured new Nalin & Kane remix of WTTPD is finished.
According to his radio-show playlist DJ Paul Van Dyk recently played it.
I wonder if that's gonna be used in the TCH-Archive context or as another
Frankie release???


Joerg




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From: [e-mail] (propaganda.de)
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda: Charts
Date: 08 Mar 2000 23:06:57 +0100


Hi all,
I plan to create a folder on my homepage called chartography.
Could you help me find the chart positions of Propaganda albums and singles in
the whole world. Any help would be great, please mail me.

Thanks

Karl

Days Become Years, Years Become Tears
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) FGTH: Relax 16min Sex Mix
Date: 09 Mar 2000 04:50:38 EST


Does anyone out there actually have a copy of this?  If so please contact me
privately...

I'm surprised this hasn't been booted yet.

-paul

PS: HMV is accepting preorders on Reduction of Claude Debussey...

Currently in rotation: Who Killed the JAMs? - JAMs; Ultra Rare Trax - Orb;
...drunk remixes - PSB; various and sundry mp3s mostly beatle related


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) Re: FGTH: Relax 16min Sex Mix - disregard
Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:01:37 EST


Damn it.  Turns out I've had it all along on Aftershow 2!

Someone sent me these quite some time ago and I pretty much forgot about
them.  Mentally I thought they were just a bunch of DJ remixes (which they
mostly are).

But many thanks to all those out there who replied!

-paul

> Does anyone out there actually have a copy of this?  If so please contact
me
> privately...
>
>  I'm surprised this hasn't been booted yet.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) New AoN discog item
Date: 09 Mar 2000 18:38:13 EST


Picked this item up recently, don't see it listed in the discog...

And now, doing my best Lazlo impersonation...

Art of Noise: Counterpoint
   [? : ? 1988] promo compliation

     CS: 1988 UK (US Gold; PSPMC 109)
            1:39 Thunderblades game advert
            0:30 Best of Art of Noise advert
            4:18 Locus Classicus 1 (fades out)
            2.01 Locus Classicus 1 (fades in a continues)
            4:35 Medley

Medley consists of:
            0:49 Fin du Temps
            0:55 Opus for Four
            1:02 Ode to Don Jose
            1:22 Debut/EFL
            0:13 Something Always Happens
           [Similar to their other album medleys, only less polished.  Locus
Classicus
               fades in at the beginning of the second side.  This item was
included
               with copies of the game Thunderhawk.]

-paul
...amused that Counterpoint only appears for 21 seconds on the entire tape.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) Re: New AoN discog item
Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:55:33 EST


I intended to add but forgot that the Thunderblades advert has absolutely
nothing to do with AoN.  The Best of ad has slightly more only because there
are AoN tracks in the background...

-paul

> Art of Noise: Counterpoint
>     [? : ? 1988] promo compliation
>
>       CS: 1988 UK (US Gold; PSPMC 109)
>              1:39 Thunderblades game advert
>              0:30 Best of Art of Noise advert


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From: "Phil Stubbs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda 1985
Date: 11 Mar 2000 01:16:21 -0000



Dear ZTTers,

a few more items from the Stubbs archive have been added to my
no-longer-neglected "Propaganda 1985" site.

http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/propaganda/

Look out for plenty more over forthcoming months.


Phil Stubbs
http://www.smart.co.uk/
Email: [e-mail]
(h) [phone]
(m) [phone]



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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda 1985
Date: 10 Mar 2000 20:13:33 -0700


On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 01:16:21AM -0000, Phil Stubbs wrote:

> a few more items from the Stubbs archive have been added to my
> no-longer-neglected "Propaganda 1985" site.
>
> http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/propaganda/

I love this Claudia quote: "One thing I value is my private life which I try
to keep separate from work."  Says Mrs. Paul Morley!

--
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 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform!  http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog
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From: [e-mail] (Alex Veronac)
Subject: (ztt) BIG BANG! or not so big FGTH NEWS!
Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:06:59 -0500


while watching the Stone Temple Pilots WebCast(on now),  I found a
FGTH webcast comping up on March 31,2000!
the banner does not write about the American "cover" band
It mentions Holly's name - decide for yourself
it would be nice if someone caould capture it to an archive file(WMP
or RM)

alex v.
DJBitter

refer:
http://www.hob.com/live/events/000331frankiegoestohollywood/pre.shtml

FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD
Pay-Per-View 24 Hour CyberTicket

Show Starts: Friday, March 31
First Show Time: 6 pm PST
[ click on time to convert to your time zone ]

Lead by former Big in Japan vocalist Holly Johnson, the original
Frankie Goes to Hollywood was first going under the name Hollycaust,
but ultimately changed their name after seeing an old headline
announcing the arrival of Frank Sinatra into the world of Hollywood
filmmaking. After an appearance on the British television program The
Tube, record producer Trevor Horn signed the band to his ZZT label
and began the flurry of prerelease marketing that would prepare the
world for the appearance of the spectacle. At the end of 1983 Frankie
released "Relax," to massive controversy over its sexually suggestive
lyrics. The video that followed did not do much to quell the tumult
and was in fact banned from British TV. The appearance of their
double LP debut "Welcome to the Pleasuredome" hit the British charts
at number one, priming the world for the Frankie frenzy to come.
Check out the remaining members of the band recorded live at the
House of Blues Sunset Strip in Los Angeles this past February 10 for
this exclusive HOB.com 24-Hour Pay-Per-View Cybercast.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood appears courtesy of Lustig Talent
Enterprises.





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From: [e-mail] (Alex Veronac)
Subject: (ztt) FGTH Show letdown
Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:18:30 -0500


sotty lads,

i guess i pucked up
check:
http://www.fgth.homestead.com/

the people at WWW.HOB.Com/Live should get their act together
this band should be put in jail for fraud

alex v.
DJBitter

[e-mail] writes:
>while watching the Stone Temple Pilots WebCast(on now),  I found a
>FGTH webcast comping up on March 31,2000!
>the banner does not write about the American "cover" band
>It mentions Holly's name - decide for yourself
>refer:
>http://www.hob.com/live/events/000331frankiegoestohollywood/pre.shtml
>
>FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD
>Pay-Per-View 24 Hour CyberTicket
>
>Show Starts: Friday, March 31
>First Show Time: 6 pm PST
>[ click on time to convert to your time zone ]
>
>Lead by former Big in Japan vocalist Holly Johnson, the original
>Frankie Goes to Hollywood was first going under the name Hollycaust,
>but ultimately changed their name after seeing an old headline
>announcing the arrival of Frank Sinatra into the world of Hollywood
>filmmaking. After an appearance on the British television program The
>Tube, record producer Trevor Horn signed the band to his ZZT label
>and began the flurry of prerelease marketing that would prepare the
>world for the appearance of the spectacle. At the end of 1983 Frankie
>released "Relax," to massive controversy over its sexually suggestive
>lyrics. The video that followed did not do much to quell the tumult
>and was in fact banned from British TV. The appearance of their
>double LP debut "Welcome to the Pleasuredome" hit the British charts
>at number one, priming the world for the Frankie frenzy to come.
>Check out the remaining members of the band recorded live at the
>House of Blues Sunset Strip in Los Angeles this past February 10 for
>this exclusive HOB.com 24-Hour Pay-Per-View Cybercast.
>
>Frankie Goes To Hollywood appears courtesy of Lustig Talent
>Enterprises.
>



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From: Pedro Lucas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) FGTH Show letdown
Date: 18 Mar 2000 10:25:22 +0000


......Something to think about the Power of a Metaphor......
In Portugal we had a King, Sebastian. He went to Africa to fight the Moors,
lost a battle and disappeared; no one knew what became of him. It generated
a legend, where it is said that some day, in a misty morning, he will return
to take the Kingdom back again.
The thing is, despite these FGTH clones which are a mere fraud, we keep
seeing things, our heart starts to race, as soon as a rumour is
heard about the gathering of Holly, Paul, Mark and Brian in some event.
Well, it worked out for AoN and Propaganda, didn't it ? Why not FGTH ?

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Alex Veronac <[e-mail]>
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 11:18 PM
>Subject: (ztt) FGTH Show letdown
>

>
> sotty lads,
>
> i guess i pucked up
> check:
> http://www.fgth.homestead.com/
>
> the people at WWW.HOB.Com/Live should get their act together
> this band should be put in jail for fraud
>
> alex v.
> DJBitter
>




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From: "Mr Koh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) IMHO......
Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:43:08 -0000


i have just literally stepped in the door from the London AON concert. I
really enjoyed it. There was something surreal about the whole evening. From
an opera singer in a t shirt bouncing away to some of the latest beats, to
Trevor singing Aerodynamic in the evening air on Metaforce. Paul was still
waving his hammer round and Lol looked kind of bemused (but his guitar
inflections were excellent, especially On Being Blue). FOr me, the highlight
was Anne's keyboard work. That's what happens when you let skilled musicians
produce techno! Sheer class.

Raymond A Koh
[e-mail]

Terrorize me at

CMS Cameron McKenna
Mitre House
160 Aldersgate Street
London
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From: "Mike George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) IMHO......
Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:15:27 -0500



> i have just literally stepped in the door from the London AON concert. I
> really enjoyed it.
<snip>

Yep know what you mean, I was lucky enough to go see them play at the end of
last year at the paradise club in Boston US, top show.
I hope they plan on coming back this year.

Mick





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From: "Charles Daraghy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) dream reduction
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:46:48 est


by any chance has anyone spotted a tracklist for the reduction (bonus cd?) with
the (repackaging?) of seduction?

i thought i read it was released in the UK on march 20 but havent seen it pop
up via import here in the US yet.

i burned my own dreaming cd
- way out west extended  (from cdr acetate)
- pre-release album mix
- colour red  (from promo vinyl, came out GREAT)
- way out west clubbable club  (from cdr acetate)
- colour silver
- way out west radio edit  (from a Universal comp/also on cdr acetate but the
uni comp is mastered better)
- colour green  (from japanese cd)
- colour silver (at 33rpm - seems it can be played at either)

fyi: the original december 1998 12" with the red cover, times are the same as
the acetate.  the sleeve for the red promo lists the extended at 8:00 but this
is false, its 6:4x



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From: Andrew Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) dream reduction
Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:07:32 +0000


Charles Daraghy wrote:
>
> by any chance has anyone spotted a tracklist for the reduction (bonus cd?) with
> the (repackaging?) of seduction?

No, but I have the CD here, so I'll type you one

> i thought i read it was released in the UK on march 20 but havent seen it pop
> up via import here in the US yet

It's not been that widely advertised over here either, perhaps with good
reason - It was released on the 20th, and I picked up a copy yesterday,
on my way to the show.

It's shrinkwrapped with the (supposedly limited edition) digipack UK
version of TSOCD (thanks ZTT, I'll put that next to the other ones shall
I?), and seems to come in 2 different sleeves - one predominently brown
on blue, the other blue on brown. Although the tracklistings are not
visible from the outside because of the way they have shrinkwrapped the
discs back to back, I assume the contents are the same.

Here's the info for all the discographers out there...

"Reduction" UK CD5, cat no. ZTT147
1. identity crisis (5:50)
2. motive (5:09)
3. (new york london paris) spleen (4:57)
4. saluting the point of no return (0:43)
5. man and boy (5:17)
6. information (5.53)
7. and i placed my fingers on her eyes as though i were touching the
silent controls of a tv set (3:05)

Total time 30:40

My verdict? Disappointing.

Initial impressions are that it's not really a remix of TSOCD, it just
steals a riff or vocal here & there on tracks 1,2,3 and 5. The first 3
tracks are slow, low production value garagey-dance workouts. Tracks 5 &
6 by contrast are good fast techno-dance, well produced - a full length
album in this style would have made a good companion to TSOCD - 6 got a
live airing at the gig BTW. 4 &7 are underdeveloped fillers.

The credits seem to suggest this CD is the work of Paul Morley and James
Bradbury, not AoN as a whole, and the 'magic touch' of Anne Dudley or
Trevor Horn certainly seems absent.

At barely half an hour, this material should have been a single or low
priced EP (or perhaps used as b-sides), not an excuse to shift surplus
digipacks at full double CD price. ZTT are sitting on a mountain of
better unreleased AoN product than this!

- Andy R.



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From: "Robert Marston" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) dream reduction
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:07:17 GMT


As well as including 'The Seduction...', the 'Reduction' package includes
the following tracks:
1. Identity crisis
2. Motive
3. (New York, London, Paris) Spleen
4. Saluting the point of no return
5. Man & boy
6. Information
7. And I place my fingers on her eyes as though I were touching the silent
controls of a TV set

Reductions isn't a 'dance mix' compilation but a 'proper' remix album. I
haven't heard it enough yet to judge if I like it yet. It's not as immediate
as 'Seduction'. The 'Beatbox' sample is quite good though.


Amazon.co.uk have it at:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004RJL1/o/qid=953820145/sr=8-1/026-1984910-6509409

I got mine from my local HMV. It wasn't in stock until yesterday though.


P.S. I'd love a copy of the CDR compilation!



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by any chance has anyone spotted a tracklist for the reduction (bonus cd?)
with
the (repackaging?) of seduction?

i thought i read it was released in the UK on march 20 but havent seen it
pop
up via import here in the US yet.

i burned my own dreaming cd
- way out west extended  (from cdr acetate)
- pre-release album mix
- colour red  (from promo vinyl, came out GREAT)
- way out west clubbable club  (from cdr acetate)
- colour silver
- way out west radio edit  (from a Universal comp/also on cdr acetate but
the
uni comp is mastered better)
- colour green  (from japanese cd)
- colour silver (at 33rpm - seems it can be played at either)

fyi: the original december 1998 12" with the red cover, times are the same
as
the acetate.  the sleeve for the red promo lists the extended at 8:00 but
this
is false, its 6:4x




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From: Pedro Lucas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) dream reduction
Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:04:28 +0000



> My verdict? Disappointing.
> ...

Couldn't agree more with Andrew. Just got mine, and my conclusion is:
It should not be called The Reduction of C.D., since everyone will try to
match it to Seduction.
It is by no means comparable, it is merely a bunch of samples put together,
and I see no Anne Dudley fingertips there...
About the price, we guys buying this mixing's already have Seduction (mine
is the 3rd CD I get!!!, the first came standalone, so I ordered
again the one with the bonus CD, and now this!) so why  not bundle it as a
single ? Arrgh!
Pedro Lucas
[e-mail]

>
> At barely half an hour, this material should have been a single or low
> priced EP (or perhaps used as b-sides), not an excuse to shift surplus
> digipacks at full double CD price. ZTT are sitting on a mountain of
> better unreleased AoN product than this!
>
> - Andy R.



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From: [e-mail] (propaganda.de)
Subject: (ztt) ZTT: Betsi Miller
Date: 24 Mar 2000 06:34:13 +0100


Hi all,
i`ve done an interview with Betsi Miller, vocalist of the second propaganda
album "1234", you could read it at: http://home.t-online.de/home/Propaganda.de/

bye
Karl

Days Become Years, Years Become Tears
e-mail: [e-mail]
Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/Propaganda.de/



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From: "Mr. Telex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The AON Webcast
Date: 26 Mar 2000 01:29:53 GMT


Just saw the AON webcast of Shepard's Bush at thepopcam.com; I was wondering
if anyone knew a way to save the video as a separate Quick Time file. I
tried right clicking on the link and doing "save as", but it won't work.

I REALLY want to have a copy of this so I can dump it onto VHS and make an
MP3 out of it. It'll be gone in April.

My Personal Commentary :

"Something Is Missing (perhaps J.J. ? :-) " reminded me a bit of Kraftwerk's
"Computer World" when Paul and Anne were singing the whole "Cell
Phones/Faxes/E-Mail/Pagers" line.

I had mixed feelings on the whole performance; AON's spontaneity is
something that they're obviously famous for, and that's why were all fans of
course. But at times, the performance seemed a bit too rushed(IMHO).
Especially when they did Moments In Love. The up-tempo groove towards the
end was cool; it made me laugh, but it didn't have the intensity and emotion
that the 1986 Hammersmith performance
exemplified.

I also didn't like how they skimped on the classics medley; just having Tim
and the other sound guy mix together Beat Box and Close To The Edit together
while Anne And Trevor played on top just didn't work for me. I thought that
they really would've revamped those songs live just for the sake of being
gone for so long.

It also seemed as if Paul was really trying to act as frontman (at least
this was how he was portryed on camera). Of course, he can't do much else
since he doesn't play anything, but did you ever see Gary take up that much
attention just mixing the board in the old days ?
A bit ironic for a group that never tried to have any lead singer and is so
against traditional convention. And what was that phrase that he kept saying
aftr each song ?

Now don't get the wrong idea; I enjoy Paul a lot. He's very charasmatic. But
I think someone who would be wacthing them for the first time would get the
wrong impression of just exactly what genre they fit into. Art Of Noise is
by no means a spoken-word group.

And what was the whole story about the Moments In Love remix that took 12
years to remix according to Paul ? This wasn't one of the reasons that I
know of that AON fizzled in the 90's. Was he referring to the Ben Liebrand
remix or the Bearting Hart's mix ?

- Josh



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From: Martin L Poulter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) The AON Webcast
Date: 26 Mar 2000 14:02:10 +0100 (BST)


On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, Mr. Telex wrote:

> Just saw the AON webcast of Shepard's Bush at thepopcam.com; I was wondering
> if anyone knew a way to save the video as a separate Quick Time file. I
> tried right clicking on the link and doing "save as", but it won't work.

It looks like it's impossible to copy without setting up some kind of
very clever dedicated proxy server. Maybe if we all begged pathetically?
I know I will be!

> against traditional convention. And what was that phrase that he kept saying
> aftr each song ?

I just heard him say "Ta" (i.e. Thanks) after each song.

> Now don't get the wrong idea; I enjoy Paul a lot. He's very charasmatic. But
> I think someone who would be wacthing them for the first time would get the
> wrong impression of just exactly what genre they fit into. Art Of Noise is
> by no means a spoken-word group.

But TCH seems to love spoken-word stuff in general. Think of the
Pleasuredome remixes, Slave to the Rhythm, Rage Hard + ...

> And what was the whole story about the Moments In Love remix that took 12
> years to remix according to Paul ?

I reckon this was just another surreal joke.

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POULTER : logic at Bristol Uni., UK. *  $665.95 = Retail price of the Beast c
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From: dan clegg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Reduction
Date: 29 Mar 2000 18:55:19 -0800


I too am disappointed with this AON release. I was hoping for some
magical reworking ala Propaganda's Wishful Thinking, but it's
definitely not anything of the sort.

Andrew mentioned the sleeve colors--mine sounds different than the
two he mentioned. Mine is white text, pink graphic on yellow
background.

I bought my copy imported here to the U.S., so it has made it to this
continent for those that were asking.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) Revor Horn interview on www.dotmusic.com
Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:51:33 +0100


Hello List

Check out:
http://www.dotmusic.com/artists/interviews/March2000/interviews13414.asp

Torben
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From: Markus Arnold <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) New 808 State remix out
Date: 30 Mar 2000 23:34:22 +0200


808 have remixed a track by Japanese band 'Move' which was released on a
remix album of the band on 23 March. Full details at
http://www.808state.com/news/move.htm.

Markus



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