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ztt-digest Monday, August 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 128
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:08:14 -0700
From: jon <mazbass@icl-server.ucsd.edu>
Subject: (ztt) Art of noise/seal for sale
Hi,
I have the following ZTT/Art of noise related items for sale up on ebay,
email me with any questions.
I also have a few of the latest Seal promos (lost my faith remix, human
beeinngs), which aren't on on Ebay, but if you're interested, let me know i
have several copies for trade/sale (preferred trade.)
thanks for looking,
jon
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137874778
Art of noise: Moments in Love UK
cd single
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137890787
Art of Noise/orb/youth: Art of
Love UK 12"
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138810192
Propaganda: P:Machinery (polish) UK 12"
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138811075
Art of Noise: Metaforce US promo 2x12"
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=139246262
ART OF NOISE: Debussy LITHOGRAM
(SIGNED)
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140719329
art of silence.co.uk (JJ from the
art of noise) UK
OOP CD
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:14:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Martin L Poulter <M.L.Poulter@bristol.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Art of noise TSoCD promo
Esprit (www.eil.com) have the 12-track promo of TSoCD at sixteen pounds
(1 pound= 1.6USD).
- --
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Helena Kobrin Page + Scientology Criticism: http://mail.bris.ac.uk/~plmlp/ !
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:29:43 -0500
From: artisan2 <artisan2@oklahoma.net>
Subject: Re: (ztt) WTB: artofsilence.co.uk
mike@hyperreal.org wrote:
> Can someone point me to someplace where I can buy the artofsilence.co.uk
> CD? Thanks
>
> - Mike
I'm afraid that there is no place currently stocking the album
"artofsilence.co.uk" anymore. I contacted JJ a few months ago and he stated
that he has exited the music biz entirely. He claims he is now "happy
selling futures". But he was quick to point out the, then pending, AON
album "The Seduction of Claude Debussey". So much for me getting my hands
on that last artofsilence single "Teach Me".
I find it interesting that so many people on here and abroad claimed to
dislike artofsilence.co.uk's sound, yet, appreciate Seduction. The two
sound very much alike considering that they both employ various current
club music styles. House music is very prevalent in both of them. In my
opinion, the core music of both albums are very similar. The major
differences are more piano work and more of those little added
background/accent noises from Anne and Trevor. Personally, I love both
albums. But, JJ got there first...
- -- James S. Coward
artisan2@oklahoma.net
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"Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of
listening to it
immobilizes passing time: it catches and unfolds it as one catches and
enfolds a
cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and
while we are
listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality" - The Art Of Noise
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 00:12:34 -0500
From: artisan2 <artisan2@oklahoma.net>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Two questions about AoN's TSoCB
"Hendrickx, Margaretha" wrote:
> Why John Hurt?
>
> "1984?" "Love and Death on Long Island"?
>
> Why "metaphor on the floor" (10)? Why "the floor"?
>
> Is it the "Disco floor (to dance and act out AoN as a metaphor)?" Or, is
> the floor in a literal meaning? to be trampled and walked over? Or, is
> there still another explanation?
>
> Cheers * Maggie
So far only one answer has gotten close to the original meaning.
However, nobody has nailed it on the head.
"Metaphor on the floor" is a pun on the American term 4 on the floor.
This is an automotive reference. It got it's start in the 50's and was
popularized in the 60's by ads for such cars as the Oldsmobile Cutlass 442.
It is referencing a 4 speed manual transmission shifter located on the
floorboard of the car as opposed to a column shifter. A floor shifter is
preferable since there are fewer connective mechanics to the transmission,
this way. And shifting gears this way is a much more natural, fluid motion.
I don't even like automatic transmissions that shift on the column. All the
more reason why I miss my Cutlass.
Any way, as cars through the 60's grew faster and more powerful "4 on
the floor" became synonymous with the performance rather than the feature.
Rock and roll musicians adopted the phrase to indicate songs where the kick
drum is struck on all four beats of 4/4 time signature. It creates a greater
punch to the sound of any song. Disco, new wave and techno music are the
most notorious of the genres for relying, heavily, on the 4 on the floor
beat. The irony is that the beat of "Metaphor on the Floor" isn't quite your
stock 4 on the floor beat. One of the upsides to drum & bass. I can only
assume that exposure to Californian logic and culture, at Sarm West Studio
Los Angeles, has infected and corrupted Trevor and company to be aware of
street racing terms. I, now, have an odd image of their next album alluding
to centerline wheels, 4 wheel anti-lock disc brakes and smog pumps. God I
hope not.
As for the person answering with getting down on all fours, it would
seem you have some personal issues to be addressed. Seek help or seek out a
lover who experiments a bit... your choice. ;-> Just kidding.
- -- James S. Coward
artisan2@oklahoma.net
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"Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of
listening to it
immobilizes passing time: it catches and unfolds it as one catches and
enfolds a
cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while
we are
listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality" - The Art Of Noise
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 13:47:43 PDT
From: "Juno Jackson" <noisewerker@hotmail.com>
Subject: (ztt) AON videos
Lately, I said that I won't be able to make copies of my AON footage
anymore. Well, I don't want to leave anyone hanging, so I will give you the
e-mail address of the original trader who I bought the tapes from.
Last time I checked, his address was : ronkane@eathlink.net
I would PLEASE ask that you DON'T flood him becuase I'm not sure if he would
want me to give out his address to everyone or not, but I feel that it would
be unfair to leave you guys out on some lost AON treasure.
NOTE : He charges roughly $20 for each tape. His prices are higher than mine
becuase his dubbing machine is of superb quality. He might charge more for
shipping; I'm not sure. Also, be sure to ask him about foreign conversions
because I'm not sure if he performs these either.
He has everything that I have EXCEPT for the "Art of Love" video.
I personally received that tape from the guys at China and Sire.
He just doesn't deal in Art of Noise either; if you're interested in any
other artists, just ask. I think he has something like 60,000 videos in his
collection. He also buys a lot of Japanese imports. He is a great guy; a
true God send.
So, there you have it. I probably should have told you guys earlier, but I
wasn't really thinking about it until now.
Love you all,
NoiseWerker
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