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ztt-digest             Sunday, May 9 1999             Volume 02 : Number 105




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Date: Thu, 6 May 99 22:19:48 +0100
From: John McCormick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc

Dear ztters,

Does anyone remember a TV programme back in the early 1980's ('83 ish I
guess) which was a programme about Computing. It was presented by someone
called Chris Searle, and I think it was done by the BBC as it kept going
on about BBC B's which are (now) old computers still used by some schools.
The point being is that I want to know if I am right in thinking that the
music they used for it was a variation on FGTH's 'Two Tribes'.
I've wanted to know the answer to this question for a long while (many
years); I was only a young nipper at the time, but the music to this
programme I find had even then been lodged in my brain!
I'd appreciate any thoughts/reflections.

Thanks!
John M.

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:47:01 +0100
From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) AON: Tripping on Lol & J.J.

Juno Jackson <[e-mail]> writes:

>3) Since Ian Peel decided to provide as little useful information
>possible in his DJ Magazine article (please Ian, don't take this
>the wrong way; I don't mean any offense by this, but I do think that a
>lot of important questions were left unanswered) , can someone give
>any insight as to why J.J. Jeczalik didn't return for this project

Well I didn't take offence, but I am mystified - I only finished writing
the Art of Noise articles for DJ mag (and sister mag EQ) this week and
posted them to the editors yesterday...  So how you can comment on their
content is beyond me!

Perhaps you thought that the simple, intentionally cryptic Q&A I posted
to the list a few weeks ago (the day after the interview were recorded)
was in fact the actual article!!  Unlikely, but this is the only
explanation I can think of for your mystical visions of the future...

Suffice to say that many of the 'hot' questions ARE answered in my
articles, but DJ mag and EQ now own the copyright to these - so I'm not
likely to be posting them to the list now am I?!

But thanks, James S. for your "pearls in a stagnant pond".  Quite right.

Trading futures,
Ian Peel
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:13:55 PDT
From: "Juno Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) AON:  Ian Peel and the May issues of DJ /EQ Magazine

To the list :

I would like to express my apologies to Sir Peel (you were right in your
mail that you sent me !) . I mistook his article "preview posting" as most
of what I thought was going to be included in his articles for the
respective magazines. I am truly sorry. He said that he just finished the
final copies and sent them into the editors(I was wondering why the hell I
couldn't find the new issues; do you have the street date on those Ian ? ).
By the way Ian, how do you feel about this project compared to the sediment
expressed in the AON RIP article that you published quite a ways back (It
definitely seems that one would be excited) ???

                                           Sincerely,
                                          Noise Werker
                                       (Kraftwerk & AON FOREVER !!!)


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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 22:37:33 +0000
From: Phil Stubbs <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Dreams: Propaganda 1985

I will, over the next few months, be placing a great deal of
Propaganda-related text, images and personal recollections from c. 1985 onto
the web.  Please let me know if any/most of this is already out there...

Phil



* Mabuse
Smash Hits interview - 1984
NME Gossip - Thein leaves - 24 November 1984
NME Gossip - 'Paul marries Bombshell' - 23 Feb 1985

* Ambassadors Theatre Concert

* Duel/Jewel
NME ad 20 April 1985
NME review - 4 May 1985
NME interview - 25 May 1985
Smash Hits competition 5 Jun 1985
Smash Hits interview with Claudia alone
Smash Hits review
No. 1 letter - Jun 29 1985
Smash Hits interview with Band

* A Secret Wish
NME Album review - 6 July 1985
Singalongapropaganda Advert in NME 6 July 1985
Smash Hits review

* P: Machinery
Smash Hits review - August 1985
NME photo - 3 August 1985
'Heart of Glass' NME cover and interview - 24 August 1985
NME Review - 3 August 1985
'Friends or Foes' No. 1 cover and interview - 24 August 1985
The Face advert - August 1985
NME advert - 3 August 1985

* Wishful Thinking
NME review - 23 November 1985
They read books, too? - The Guardian interview
NME advert 16 November 1985

* P: Machinery - re release
NME Review of rerelease - 7 December 1985
NME advert of release - 7 December 1985

* Tour
NME first news - 5 October 1985
NME tour kick off - 26 Oct 1985
NME - Then Jericho advert (Propaganda support)
NME review - 23 November 1985
NME vs Kevin Armstrong feud - 7 December 1985
NME ad: Salford - issue dated 26 Oct 1985
NME ad: Hammersmith Palais gig - issue dated 9 Nov 1985
Tour program
Tour T-Shirt (photo of)

Post 1985
Record Mirror - 15 Feb 1986
Propaganda Fan Club Letter 14 March 1986



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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 22:56:48 +0000
From: Phil Stubbs <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc

At 22:19 6/5/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone remember a TV programme back in the early 1980's ('83 ish I
>guess) which was a programme about Computing. It was presented by someone
>called Chris Searle, and I think it was done by the BBC as it kept going
>on about BBC B's which are (now) old computers still used by some schools.
>The point being is that I want to know if I am right in thinking that the
>music they used for it was a variation on FGTH's 'Two Tribes'.
>I've wanted to know the answer to this question for a long while (many
>years); I was only a young nipper at the time, but the music to this
>programme I find had even then been lodged in my brain!
>I'd appreciate any thoughts/reflections.
>

I do remember the Chris Searle computer program (Sunday mornings on BBC1),
but I'm pretty sure there was no Two Tribes-related theme, though that's no
proof.  I can't believe those old computers are still in use.  One BBC
technology progam I do remember that had a ZTT connection (and I still have
on video tape) was a Tomorrow's World special presented by Howard Stableford
(sp?) dedicated to electronic music, including a feature on Claudia Brucken,
Thomas Leer and Stephen Lipson putting Snobbery and Decay together.

Phil



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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:12:34 -0600
From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc

On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 10:56:48PM +0000, Phil Stubbs wrote:

> I do remember the Chris Searle computer program (Sunday mornings on BBC1),
> but I'm pretty sure there was no Two Tribes-related theme, though that's no
> proof.  I can't believe those old computers are still in use.

I has the privilege of checking out some of Vince Clarke's gear when Erasure
were touring last time around and was very surprised to discover that the
entire show was sequenced off an old BBC micro (I'd never even seen one
before, since they never got over here to the states).

Apparently he has a spare for hot-swap purposes, just in case. :-)

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:50:41 +0100
From: "Mark Humphrey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc

>----- Original Message -----
>From: John McCormick <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc
>
> Dear ztters,
>
> Does anyone remember a TV programme back in the early 1980's ('83 ish I
> guess) which was a programme about Computing.

I think this may be of help

>From http://www.havaccnt.demon.co.uk/hac/MicroLive.html

'The first BBC Micro made its debut in 1982 on the BBC's "The Computer
Program." It was anticipated that total sales to be in the reagion of 12,000
units. Sales eventually exceeded 1 million computers. The BBC micro was also
used for another BBC computer programs like "Making the Most of the Micro"
and "Micro Live". '

Also check out the entry in TV Cream: http://tv.cream.org/arkm1.htm

I remember the Program with Chris Serle but not it's theme tune. The theme
to Micro Live was Kraftwerk's Computer World.

Cheers
Mark



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