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ztt-digest         Thursday, January 15 1998         Volume 02 : Number 012




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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:53:20 -0600
From: "Brian Pinkerton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Betsy Cooke

Speaking of Betsy Cooke, has anybody heard her album?  Is it good?  How
much did Trevor Horn have to do with it?



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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 03:23:44 EST
From: JohnJr DPD <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Video Killed The Radio Star

Okay all you Buggles fans - I just opened my latest info bit from WEA.  In the
upcoming US movie, "The Wedding Singer" (in theaters Feb.13) The Presidents of
the United States do a cover version of "Video Killed..."!  Very interesting
considering the rumours that the group (Presidents) had already been
dissolved.

The soundtrack also features Bowie, Elvis Costello, Culture Club, Billy Idol,
Musical Youth (maybe "Pass The Dutchie"?), New Order, The Police, Psychedelic
Furs and Thompson Twins.  The movie features Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore -
no rating information.

Just thought some of you might find this of some interest...

Be seeing you!
- - John, Jr.


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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 03:35:45 EST
From: The Mgnt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Video Killed The Radio Star

>  Okay all you Buggles fans - I just opened my latest info bit from WEA.  In
> the
>  upcoming US movie, "The Wedding Singer" (in theaters Feb.13) The Presidents
> of
>  the United States do a cover version of "Video Killed..."!  Very
interesting
>  considering the rumours that the group (Presidents) had already been
>  dissolved.

Video is a song the Presidents played live.  They played it on their MTV
special and it also appeared (in live form) on the b side of, I think, the
Peaches single.

I don't know about a studio version.

- -paul


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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:54:04 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) Anne, formerly of AoN

Not sure if this was mentioned a while back (I've been away for a couple
of months) and definitely not sure if this is news-worthy, but Anne
Dudley did the string arrangement for "Viva Forever", the ninth track on
the Spice Girls' "Spiceworld" LP.

Definitely one end of the spectrum - the other end being "Who's Afraid
Of?" and "Ancient And Modern" being the middle.

Now what about that upcoming AoN (with Horn and Morley!) album someone
was talking about last October?


Jeff H.


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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:55:43 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) Wendy & Lisa album?

On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:57:48 -0800 [e-mail] (Mark Wasiel)
writes:
>Maybe they could also release the Wendy & Lisa album?

There's a new Wendy & Lisa album? (And does it have a U.S. distributor?)

Jeff H.


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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:18:29 +0100 (MET)
From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) ... embarrassing

Hello!

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:02:42, Raymondus Mitja Koh <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Subject: (ztt) Psycho Rangers
>
> [...]
>
> BTW, shocked to find that Trevor Horn produced one of the tracks for
> Gary Barlow's "Open Road" album. One for the discography, Joerg.

Urgh!  =:-O
Please don't mention my name in association with this Gary B...  ;-)

- -Anonymous


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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:33:42 -0500
From: Dean Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

I finally got my hands on the Act and Claudia Brucken cds, so for now I'm
happy as a clam, though I naturally want more.  My favorite song on the Act
cd is "Absolutely Immune," and I see that there are several single release
versions of the song.  Are any of them remixes?  Were any of them issued on
cd?  Can anyone do a compare/contrast of them, please?

I sure hope we have more Claudia soon, Propaganda or not!

- -Dean




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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:51:21 +0100
From: Andy Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

Dean Harris wrote:
> ...My favorite song on the Act cd is "Absolutely Immune," and I see
> that there are several single release versions of the song.  Are any
> of them remixes?

Yes - there are 2 different twelve inch versions, and a 7 inch. These
came out before the album, and the album mix soundls like it was remixed
from these, not the other way around.

> Were any of them issued on cd?

No, not as CD singles anyway...

for the full story, check out the excellent ZTT discography available at
http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt
, as the footer suggests!

- - andy R.


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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:16:28 -0700
From: Shaun Hayes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

At 06:51 PM 01/14/98 +0100, Andy Robinson wrote:
>
>Dean Harris wrote:
>> ...My favorite song on the Act cd is "Absolutely Immune," and I see
>> that there are several single release versions of the song.  Are any
>> of them remixes?
>
>Yes - there are 2 different twelve inch versions, and a 7 inch. These
>came out before the album, and the album mix soundls like it was remixed
>from these, not the other way around.
>
>> Were any of them issued on cd?
>
>No, not as CD singles anyway...

Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like Ether"
singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's name all over them
are doing on my shelves?

Shame, SHAME foul imposter!

- -Shaun
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:32:03 -0700 (MST)
From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

>> Were any of them issued on cd?
>>
>> No, not as CD singles anyway...
>
> Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like
> Ether"  singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's name all
> over them are doing on my shelves?

It's no secret that "Kiss Like Ether" was generally available on disc, but if
"Absolutely Immune" was ever issued by ZTT as a commercial or promo CD-single
it's news to me and to a lot of other reasonably well-connected ZTT fanatics.
Are you maybe thinking of one of the two other singles from that album that
*were* issued on CD ("Snobbery and Decay" and "I Can't Escape From You")?

Not to be too skeptical about it, but I'd really have to see at least a
tracklist and catalog and matrix numbers, and preferably a scan of the
packaging and the disc itself, in order for me to believe that "Absolutely
Immune" was ever actually issued on CD.

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:23:41 -0500
From: J Bortz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Absolutely Immune cd??

 I totally agree with Mr. Lazlo.  I would LOVE to see the catalog /
matricks numbers for the Absolutely Immune cd single.  Or anything for that
matter!  I've been on this mailing list for years now and no one ever said
anything about owning an Absolutely Immune cd.

 Does any one on this list have any connections to the people at Zang?  I
know Ean Peel knew a few people.  Joerg, what about you with your KICK ASS
700 plus ZTT music collection??  I have even heard rumors of an ACT
"Chance" cd5, but NEVER an Absolutely Immune cd!  If this item does exist,
why wasn't it mentioned when the Zang discog was being updated???

  Cheers,  Josh



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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:22:36 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Mark Wasiel)
Subject: Re: (ztt) Absolutely Immune cd??

Thought I'd throw in my bit of rumor (?) mongering...

> Does any one on this list have any connections to the people at Zang?  I
>know Ean Peel knew a few people.  Joerg, what about you with your KICK ASS
>700 plus ZTT music collection??  I have even heard rumors of an ACT
>"Chance" cd5, but NEVER an Absolutely Immune cd!  If this item does exist,
>why wasn't it mentioned when the Zang discog was being updated???


I knew a manager of a record store I used to go to a lot who told me he had
Absolutely Immune on CD back in 88 (89?).  I didn't really know him too well
and I only saw him a couple more times after that so I never asked him if it
was real... but I always wondered about it.

Mark Wasiel
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:38:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Patrick Daly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken (fwd)

>
>> Were any of them issued on cd?
>
>No, not as CD singles anyway...

Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like Ether"
singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's name all over them
are doing on my shelves?


BA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!






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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:02:11 -0500
From: Dean Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

>>> Were any of them issued on cd?
>>
>>No, not as CD singles anyway...
>
>Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like Ether"
>singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's name all over them
>are doing on my shelves?
>
>Shame, SHAME foul imposter!
>
>-Shaun

Shaun, would you mind giving the catalogue number and track listing for the
cd, please?

Also, and I'm sorry to belabor this, but can anyone describe the difference
between the mixes on the two different 12" singles?

- -Dean

Wishful thinking:  with ZTT out from under WB, it would sure be nice to see
all of this stuff reissued on cd.  I'd be happy to grovel before the right
person at ZTT...  =)




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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:26:35 +0100 (MET)
From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

Shaun Hayes <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >No, not as CD singles anyway...
>
> Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like Ether"
> singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's name all over them
> are doing on my shelves?

Well, if Claudia's name is all over it, then it's maybe her first
solo single "Absolu[e]"?!  Seems more likely to me - although I'd
absolutely love to hear the unlikely.

Best Greetings

 Joerg


P.S.:  If someone at ZTT is reading this, maybe they could clear it up?
       And maybe inform us of new releases in the future...? :-)


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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:33:37 +0100
From: "Henrik Lundstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

> Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like Ether"
> singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's name all over them
> are doing on my shelves?

Since you mention "Kiss like ether", I guess that you mean
"Absolut(e)", not "Absolutely Immune".

Henrik.


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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:56:56 +0100 (MET)
From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) FGTH/Betsy Cook[e]?

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Ernie Longmire (aka Lazlo) wrote:
> Hi all, your humble admin, posting from work.  Does anyone know whether
> the "Betsy Cooke" who did backing vox on FGTH/Liverpool is the same person
> as the Betsy Cook who did an album called The Girl Who Ate Herself?

I don't know definately, but I'm pretty sure she is, because the same
name is appearing on quite some TCH/ZTT productions - e.g. also Act, Marc
Almond, Seal (II).


On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Brian Pinkerton wrote:
> Speaking of Betsy Cooke, has anybody heard her album?  Is it good?  How
> much did Trevor Horn have to do with it?

I've heard it and all in all I found it 'nice' - but not much more.
It's soft pop.
Unfortunately I don't have the full credits to the CD, but to my
knowledge only one song ("Docklands") was produced by Trevor Horn.
The rest features producers such as Bruce Woolley, Stephen Lipson and
Betsy herself.


Cheers

 Joerg


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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:50:45 -0700
From: Shaun Hayes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

At 05:32 PM 01/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>It's no secret that "Kiss Like Ether" was generally available on disc, but if
>"Absolutely Immune" was ever issued by ZTT as a commercial or promo CD-single
>it's news to me and to a lot of other reasonably well-connected ZTT fanatics.
>Are you maybe thinking of one of the two other singles from that album that
>*were* issued on CD ("Snobbery and Decay" and "I Can't Escape From You")?

damn - you're absolute(!)ly right.  I was suffering a brain embolism at the
time, and rather than maintain my usual silence thought I would publicly
broadcast the fact that I had stored my recollection of the "absolut[e]"
single in the wrong box.

I stand corrected, and will hang my head in continued silence once more....

- -Shaun
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:42:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Patrick Daly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken (fwd)

>Are you maybe thinking of one of the two other singles from that album that
>*were* issued on CD ("Snobbery and Decay" and "I Can't Escape From You")?

damn - you're absolute(!)ly right.  I was suffering a brain embolism at the
time, and rather than maintain my usual silence thought I would publicly
broadcast the fact that I had stored my recollection of the "absolut[e]"
single in the wrong box.

I stand corrected, and will hang my head in continued silence once more....

- -Shaun


Well I'll be.  Thanks for your honesty, though.  So what's the story on
the new Propaganda, anyway?


Patrick




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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:58:18 +0100
From: Andy Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken

Lazlo Nibble wrote:
>
> >> Were any of them issued on cd?
> >>
> >> No, not as CD singles anyway...
> >
> > Really?  Then I wonder what the "Absolutely Immune" and "Kiss Like
> > Ether"  singles (each with b-sides and remixes) with Claudia's
> > name all over them are doing on my shelves?
>
> It's no secret that "Kiss Like Ether" was generally available on
> disc, but if "Absolutely Immune" was ever issued by ZTT as a
> commercial or promo CD-single it's news to me and to a lot of other
> reasonably well-connected ZTT fanatics.

Well, I stated that Absolutely Immune was never released on CD single
(and I didn't mention Kiss Like Ether at all BTW) because I have been
obsessively collecting Act/ZTT for ages, and I have never come across
even a rumour that such a thing exists.

I would love to be proved wrong on this, but it will take something a
little more substantial than "Shame, SHAME foul imposter!" or "BW HA HA
HA" before I stop passing on info I believe to be correct to people who
ask for it :-) Can I be alone in thinking we should be a little more
grown up about this sort of thing?

On a similar topic, does anyone on the list have any insight on ZTT's
(pre-Warner) policy for which singles were available on CD? It seems odd
that, for example, there was (AFAIK) no CD single for "Watching the
Wildlife", and Act's first and third singles came on CD but the second
didn't seem to.

I have seen mention of a CD single and 7" for "Chance", but only in
wanted adverts, never for sale. Can anyone here confirm their existence?
I only have the 12" and a WEA promotional tape with Chance on it
(ostensibly to promote the single!) but this just has the album version.

- - Andy R.


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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:42:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Patrick Daly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Act/Claudia Brucken (fwd)

Lazlo Nibble wrote:
>

I would love to be proved wrong on this, but it will take something a
little more substantial than "Shame, SHAME foul imposter!" or "BW HA HA
HA" before I stop passing on info I believe to be correct to people who
ask for it :-) Can I be alone in thinking we should be a little more
grown up about this sort of thing?


Whoa.  Don't take it so seriously.  As FGTH said, "Relax."



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