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zorn-list-digest Digest                Volume 96 : Issue 22

Today's Topics:
  Re: Buckethead                        [ [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer) ]
  Re: Buckethead                        [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: Who is Buckethead?                [ Jeff Schwartz <[e-mail].e ]
  Re: Who is Buckethead?                [ Jeff Schwartz <[e-mail].e ]
  Re: Buckethead                        [ [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer) ]
  Buckethead/Eyvind Kang                [ Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]-c. ]
  Re: What is your favorite Anthony Br  [ "R. Lynn Rardin" <RARDIN%ORION@BINA ]
  Re: What is your favorite Anthony Br  [ [e-mail] ]
  Crimson/Downtown                      [ Marcin Gokieli <MARFRANK%PLEARN.BIT ]
  Zillatron                             [ Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]-c. ]
  Re: Who is Buckethead?                [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: buckethead                        [ "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichi ]
  Re: Zillatron                         [ [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer) ]
  Re: Company Recordings                [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: Buckethead                        [ "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichi ]
  Re: Who is Buckethead?                [ john shiurba <[e-mail]> ]
  Re: Who is Buckethead?                [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: buckethead                        [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: Buckethead                        [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: Buckethead                        [ [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer) ]
  Re: zorn-list-digest Digest V96 #21   [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: jim o'rourke                      [ [e-mail] ]
  Re: jim o'rourke                      [ "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichi ]
  Mr. Patton's Adult Voices             [ [e-mail] (Marc Kate) ]
  Re: Marc Ribot                        [ "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichi ]

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Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 20:44:58 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Buckethead
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At 4:10 PM 5/11/96, [e-mail] wrote:
>I just got Bucketheadland the other day....i have seen that DAY OF THE ROBOT
>is available on Sub-meta so pick itup and tell me what it's like.....does
>anyone have anythoughts on Death Cube K? (buckethead project...note the
>anagraming of his name).


_Day of the Robot_ is one track that is very Praxis-like, intense
jackhammer guitar into ambient cycles.  Then four tracks with insane jungle
rhythm tracks, some with a lot of guitar, and some without much guitar.  If
you like jungle, this is great, but if you don't, you may not find this to
your liking.

The Death Cube K CD is ambient, mostly dark ambient, with one truly
standout track (the third.)

In my opinion, the best thing to get after _Day_ and the unavailable _Giant
Robot_ (the one on Sony Japan, not the more recent recording only available
on cassette), assuming that you have all the Praxis CDs, is _Octave of the
Holy Innocents_ with Jonas Hellborg and Michael Shrieve.  Bucket plays
acoustic guitar only on this, and it is incredible.


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:18:43 -0400
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Buckethead
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I first heard Buckethead on the "Bucketheadland" recording, and was under
impressed.  I had read a number of great reviews for that CD, but somehow was
never able to hear what was so amazing about it.  Soon after I got hooked in
to the Praxis vibe, which was pretty cool throughout "Mutatis Mutandis" and
"Sacrifist," but again left me cold once "Metatron" rolled around.  "Giant
Robot" (which is still available here in Chicago, at least) sounded to me
like little more than "Bucketheadland Version 1.5," and the Death Cube K
project did nothing for me, either.  "Day Of The Robot" is at least fairly
listenable, although for jungle I'll stick with masters like Astral Pilot.
 So why, you may ask, after consistently being let down by his CD's do I
continue to listen to what the Buckethead is up to?  Easy... because on
"Octave of the Holy Innocents" and the three volumes of Company recordings
from 1991, it is obvious that Buckethead harbours some serious talent,
although not all of his recordings showcase this as well as others.  I'd be
interested in hearing his work with the Deli Creeps, and I'd love to hear him
teamed up with Zorn again, as their 11 minute duet on the first volume of the
Company recordings is absolutely mind blowing.
As for the person who inquired about the current status of Painkiller, I
believe that they are still an existing unit, as I just read something about
them in Alternative Press (something about contributing to a soundtrack for a
CD Rom), although I could be wrong.

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:40:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Schwartz <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Who is Buckethead?
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Buckethead is Brian Carroll-he appears under his real name on Henry
Kaiser's Hope You Like Our New Direction. I know, it'd be really cool if
he was Ritchie Blackmore or Tal Farlow or Thomas Pynchon, but...
And Death Cube K is awesome. Laswell's ambient trip at its best, since the
sounds are coming from Buckethead's guitar & Laswell's bass. No burning
leads (get Praxis or Zillatron...), but really beautiful stuff. I'd love
to know details of how this album was made-how much of the sampling &
delay stuff was done in real time, how the pieces were defined, etc. So
much of Laswell's stuff mixes extreme studio technique with live playing
that it's difficult for me to concieve of how it's put together. A
step-by-step account of the making of Hallucination Engine or Sacrifist
would be incredible!

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 02:12:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Schwartz <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
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In light of Jeff Spirer's recent post, I withdraw my identification of
Buckethead as Brian Carroll for 4 reasons:
1. There is no reason not to suspect that "Brian Carroll" is another alias
and that the credit on the Kaiser album is a hoax by HK and The
Artist Currently Known as Buckethead.
2. If he doesn't want us to know, then it's none of our business. For all
the pleasure his music has given us, we at least owe him this bit o' respect.
3. If his playing can "make vehicles fly about like toys," I don't want to
imagine what it could do to some snotty fan who revealed his secret identity.
4. He's really Henry Kaiser/Prince/Greg Ginn/Elliot Sharp/Michael
Hampton/John Frusciante/Syd Barrett...

 On Sun, 12 May 1996, Jeff Schwartz wrote:

> Buckethead is Brian Carroll-he appears under his real name on Henry
> Kaiser's Hope You Like Our New Direction. I know, it'd be really cool if
> he was Ritchie Blackmore or Tal Farlow or Thomas Pynchon, but...
> And Death Cube K is awesome. Laswell's ambient trip at its best, since the
> sounds are coming from Buckethead's guitar & Laswell's bass. No burning
> leads (get Praxis or Zillatron...), but really beautiful stuff. I'd love
> to know details of how this album was made-how much of the sampling &
> delay stuff was done in real time, how the pieces were defined, etc. So
> much of Laswell's stuff mixes extreme studio technique with live playing
> that it's difficult for me to concieve of how it's put together. A
> step-by-step account of the making of Hallucination Engine or Sacrifist
> would be incredible!
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 23:35:49 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Buckethead
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At 9:18 PM 5/11/96, [e-mail] wrote:

>although not all of his recordings showcase this as well as others.  I'd be
>interested in hearing his work with the Deli Creeps, and I'd love to hear him

If you didn't like _Giant Robot_, you won't like Deli Creeps.  FWIW,
Buckethead told me that Deli Creeps are his favorite live venue.

>As for the person who inquired about the current status of Painkiller, I
>believe that they are still an existing unit, as I just read something about
>them in Alternative Press (something about contributing to a soundtrack for a
>CD Rom), although I could be wrong.

As far as I can tell, Painkiller just sort of happens rather than exists as
a band.  As a result, not existing isn't really possible either.  (Maybe
this is what defines existentialism in music.)


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 13:18:30 +0200 (METDST)
From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
To: zorn list <[e-mail]>
Subject: Buckethead/Eyvind Kang
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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What about the "Buckethead Plays Disney"? When will that be released?
I've heard one of the tunes and it was pretty good.

Isn't the T-shirt Eyvind Kang wears on the picture in the new Frisell cd,
a Boredoms T-shirt? Has he worked with them?

Jonas

BTW When will the new Arto Lindsay cd be released?

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 10:02:23 -0500 (EST)
From: "R. Lynn Rardin" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: What is your favorite Anthony Braxton album?
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>>4. Ne Plus Ultra (Hat)
>
>This is a Warne Marsh record, not a Braxton record...

Great recording, though. :)

>My favorite Braxton of
>the forty or so I have is Willisau (Hat Art). It's his classic quartet, with
>Marilyn Crispell, Mark Dresser, and Gerry Hemingway. It's 4 CDs but it's
>probably not that expensive if you get it from North Country, with their
>recent Hat Art sale.

Unfortunately, the Cadence/North Country Hat Hut sale has been over for
awhile now.  But it's worth the $$ even at full price.  Tower may still
have their Hats priced cheap.  It would definitely be worth checking there.

-Lynn ([e-mail])

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Date: Sun, 12 May 96 11:03:35 -0600
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On Sun, 12 May 1996, "R. Lynn Rardin" <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>>>4. Ne Plus Ultra (Hat)
>>
>>This is a Warne Marsh record, not a Braxton record...
>
>Great recording, though. :)
>
>>My favorite Braxton of
>>the forty or so I have is Willisau (Hat Art). It's his classic quartet, with
>>Marilyn Crispell, Mark Dresser, and Gerry Hemingway. It's 4 CDs but it's
>>probably not that expensive if you get it from North Country, with their
>>recent Hat Art sale.
>
>Unfortunately, the Cadence/North Country Hat Hut sale has been over for
>awhile now.  But it's worth the $$ even at full price.  Tower may still
>have their Hats priced cheap.  It would definitely be worth checking there.
>
>-Lynn ([e-mail])
>
>
>I picked up Gerry Hemmingway's "Demon Chaser" (Hat Art) a few weeks back for
$13.99 at Tower. I believe they marked them down permanetly. At least that's
what I heard.

glenn

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Date:         Sun, 12 May 96 18:20:39 CET
From: Marcin Gokieli <[e-mail]>
To: Zorn list <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Crimson/Downtown
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Hello,
There's been some talk about Crimson/downtown musician collaboration. A few opi
nions really surprised me.
1) many people treated KC & Fripp solo records as typical 'progressive rock'
recordings. in the late 60's & early 70's bands were called 'progressive' when
they were playing music beyond precise styles. Kc would very nicely suit this d
efinition. But, somewhere around '74 it became a name for just another musical
style: a lot of keyboards, technical perfectionsm, long tunes, etc. The term ha
s lost its initial meaning. Nowdays, bands like marillion are called prog rock
bands, and i do not think that any marillion fan would say that, for example, h
enry cow plays ' progressive rock'. Crimson was one of the first bands which pl
ayed this kind of music. they have, however, disapeared in 1974. They did not
continue playing what they used to, after recording a few really GREAT albums (
starless&bible black, which is a live album- although not 'officially-, for exa
mple. those who like this kind of improvised rock should check out the 'great d
eceiver' 4 cd set). And Fripp has moved into entirely different stuff - he was
one of the pioneers of ambient (his albums with Eno, solo albums like 'god save
 the queen', etc.). And he continued playing progressive music- not 'progressiv
e rock'. Check out Fripp&League of gentleman album.Check out 'exposure'. Play t
hem to a marillion fan. And keep safe distance ...
Fripp is a 'progressive' musician in the same way Zorn, Frisell, etc. are. Thos
e are people who try to go beyond styles, trying to make something new.
There is a big difference, though. IMHO, Zorn is mixing styles in a very 'avant
-guarde' way. Fripp (IMHO, of course) has another approach. He tries to put his
mad polyrythmic ideas into 'pop' music('darshan', a 17-minute 'techno' track sh
ould be a good example). He tries to see where can you go with the stuff which
is popular- and new. He always plays 'top 10' kind of music- but in such a way
that he never gets there ...
   So there are differencies. But THIS IS THE REASON i would like to see them
play together. I'd like to see Fripp playing some solos on 'execution ground'.
Add some guitar synth riffs... And Zorn introducing his mad arrangements into
 such mad compositions as 'neurotica', 'Frame by frame'...
Btw, a Fripp-Frisell collaboration would be possible in quite a different way.
Their approach to guitar playing is, IMHO again, very similar. Their duets woul
d be ... no,i can't imagine that. Too beautiful.
What occured to me as a graet idea right now, is maybe even better then collabo
rations: mutual (downtown-crimson) tribute albums. And live shows together...wo
w.
2) If i understood well, many people treated Zorn as an 'improvising' artist,
and fripp as an 'composer'. This is not true- for example ' filmworks' or some
naked city tunes (for example some of the 'radio' album) are not improvised.
and Crimson's new album tHRAKk aTTACk, which will be out on 25 may , will be, a
s far as i know, nearly entirely improvised.
I'm afraid nobody reads such long letters...
Keep on hunting for the snark,
Marcin Gokieli
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 18:52:38 +0200 (METDST)
From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
To: zorn list <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zillatron
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Is the Zillatron cd "Lord Of The Harvest" as good as it sound to be?
Is Grandmaster Melle Mel's vocals better than the ones he did on "Holy
Terror" (which were horrible!).

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 12:56:32 -0400
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Who is Buckethead?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

It's no big secret that Brian Carroll is Buckethead.   When his column first
started in Guitar Player, they played up the hype about him being mute and
raised in a chicken coop, etc.  But two or three years ago there was an
article in guitar player where his identity was revealed, and there was some
insight into the real person.  I dont have the article handy to give you the
exact date.  Henceforth in the article he was referred to as Brian.

Does anybody know where to get the "Company" recordings?

Yes, "Ocatave of the Holy Innocents" is incredible, as are all of Jonas
Hellborg's recordings.  If you are into Buckethead's fiery playing, then you
should definitely check out Jonas' recent collaborations with Shawn Lane, who
is a guitarist with a much broader palette of skills.  Check out Jonas'
"Abstract Logic" and "Temporal Analogues of Paradise" and Michael Shrieve's
"Two Doors" (also featuring Bill Frisell and Wayne Horvitz).


[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 10:44:02 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: buckethead
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 11 May 96 12:58:45 -0600  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> What's the mask all about ? Is he shy ? Wish to remain anonymous ? Does he wear
> the mask in a "live" setting ? He's definitely a monster guitarist but perhaps a
> bit eccentric ? just curious............any comments Patrice ?

No idea but Jeff Spirer should have an opinion, right?

    Patrice.

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 10:53:24 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
To: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>, zorn list <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zillatron
Message-Id: <v02140b0fadbbd5d40b20@[205.134.229.31]>
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At 9:52 AM 5/12/96, Torsten Nielsen wrote:
>Is the Zillatron cd "Lord Of The Harvest" as good as it sound to be?
>Is Grandmaster Melle Mel's vocals better than the ones he did on "Holy
>Terror" (which were horrible!).

Mel's vocals are not particularly recognizable on Zillatron.

I like Zillatron a lot, but as the liner notes say, it is basically a silly
album.  Bootsy does some amazing things with the bass.


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 14:15:28 -0400
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Company Recordings
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In a message dated 96-05-12 13:04:07 EDT, you write:

>Does anybody know where to get the "Company" recordings?

Try Cadence.


Barry Gilbert

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 11:14:49 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Buckethead
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 12 May 1996 00:18:43 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> I first heard Buckethead on the "Bucketheadland" recording, and was under
> impressed.  I had read a number of great reviews for that CD, but somehow was
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Strange, most of the reviews I read were fairly wishy-washy: not bad but
lacking such enthusiasm that you rapidly got the feeling that you might be
better off not buying it. Even die-hard Buckethead lovers are surprisingly
quiet when asked about BUCKETHEADLAND.

> never able to hear what was so amazing about it.  Soon after I got hooked in
> to the Praxis vibe, which was pretty cool throughout "Mutatis Mutandis" and
> "Sacrifist," but again left me cold once "Metatron" rolled around.  "Giant
> Robot" (which is still available here in Chicago, at least) sounded to me
> like little more than "Bucketheadland Version 1.5," and the Death Cube K
> project did nothing for me, either.  "Day Of The Robot" is at least fairly
> listenable, although for jungle I'll stick with masters like Astral Pilot.
>  So why, you may ask, after consistently being let down by his CD's do I
> continue to listen to what the Buckethead is up to?  Easy... because on
> "Octave of the Holy Innocents" and the three volumes of Company recordings
> from 1991, it is obvious that Buckethead harbours some serious talent,
> although not all of his recordings showcase this as well as others.  I'd be
> interested in hearing his work with the Deli Creeps, and I'd love to hear him
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You might be very disappointed. All the songs (from a musical point of view)
look the same:

    1/ beginning: strong and catchy with Buckethead relying heavily on
       speed metal riffs; on the first song, you immediately feel that the
       concert will be killer
    2/ middle: strickly nothing most of the time or, once in a while, 3mn
       of guitar exhibition; on the first song, you immediately feel that
       it is a trick and he is just teasing the audience; on the first
       show, you just think that Buckethead was not in great form and
       decided to "economize" his great skills
    3/ end: Buckethead is back with the same set of riffs and that's all

After three songs, you start to get really frustrated. If, like me, you don't
aspire to be an arena rock guitar player, the interest is fairly minor.
Musically the content is close to zero. As a performance, I can just say that
it is not my cup of tea :-).

> teamed up with Zorn again, as their 11 minute duet on the first volume of the
> Company recordings is absolutely mind blowing.

I saw him with Pain Killer and was really impressed (although the level was so
high that I thought I lost my hearing capabilities :-).

> As for the person who inquired about the current status of Painkiller, I
> believe that they are still an existing unit, as I just read something about
> them in Alternative Press (something about contributing to a soundtrack for a
> CD Rom), although I could be wrong.

I love Buckethead as a sideman where he really shines but I am still not very
impressed by his projects. Deli Creeps has been a big disappointment to me. In
fact they are playing again in town (Portland, OR) in few days and I am not
sure I will go.

    Patrice.

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 12:08:18 +0000
From: john shiurba <[e-mail]>
To: zorn-list <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Who is Buckethead?
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> Does anybody know where to get the "Company" recordings?
>

these are available from incus, for $20 ppd, make sure you specify
company _91_ because there are many company recordings.

Incus
14 Downs Rd
London E5 8DS
England

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 15:08:28 -0400
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Who is Buckethead?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Last time I ordered from Forced Exposure (more than 1 year ago) they had the
 Company 91 albums. The Company album I have is #3 which has a 12:28 feedback
improv from Buckethead/Derek Bailey which should be of some interest to those
following this thread.

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Date: Sun, 12 May 96 20:20:07 -0600
From: [e-mail]
To: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: buckethead
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On Sun, 12 May 1996, "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>On Sat, 11 May 96 12:58:45 -0600  [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>
>> What's the mask all about ? Is he shy ? Wish to remain anonymous ? Does he
wear
>> the mask in a "live" setting ? He's definitely a monster guitarist but
perhaps a
>> bit eccentric ? just curious............any comments Patrice ?
>
>No idea but Jeff Spirer should have an opinion, right?
>
>    Patrice.
>
>BTW, The new cd "Day of the Robot" is mighty interesting. Buckethead could
probably make mega bucks playing top 40 heavy metal ! I give the guy credit for
being somewhat eccentric and creative. Actually, I've never heard anything quite
like this. A very compelling cd.

glenn

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Date: Sun, 12 May 96 20:23:34 -0600
From: [e-mail]
To: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Buckethead
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>
>I love Buckethead as a sideman where he really shines but I am still not very
>impressed by his projects. Deli Creeps has been a big disappointment to me. In
>fact they are playing again in town (Portland, OR) in few days and I am not
>sure I will go.
>
>    Patrice.
>
>Well, Octave of the Holy Innocents with Shrieve and Hellborg is great as Jeff
pointed out. Also, Praxis' "Metatron" is destined to be a classic.. The new one
"...Robot" is inventive and quite daring. I agree ...Buckethead Land consisted
of lots of noodling and lacked direction.....

glenn
>

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 20:01:47 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Buckethead
Message-Id: <v02140b12adbc55bf5cd8@[205.134.229.31]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 7:23 PM 5/12/96, [e-mail] wrote:

>>Well, Octave of the Holy Innocents with Shrieve and Hellborg is great as Jeff
>pointed out. Also, Praxis' "Metatron" is destined to be a classic.. The
>new one
>"...Robot" is inventive and quite daring. I agree ...Buckethead Land consisted
>of lots of noodling and lacked direction.....

My own take on _Bucketheadland_ is that when he gets in the studio without
strong direction he doesn't do all that well.  _Bucketheadland_ is really
just Buckethead and Bootsy fooling around in Bootsy's basement studio.  The
Giant Robot recording that is not the Sony Japan release produced by
Laswell is similarly lacking in focus, although it is better than
_Bucketheadland_ in that department.  Hopefully it will sound better on CD
than on cassette because the sound on the cassette is awful.


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 12:21:41 -0400
From: [e-mail]
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The last two digests have arrived incomplete! What's the deal?


David Beardsley
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 19:15:40 -0600
From: [e-mail]
To: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n"
    <[e-mail]>,
        zorn list
    <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: jim o'rourke
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On Thu, 9 May 1996, "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n"
<[e-mail]> wrote:
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>does anyone have jim o'rourke's 'TERMINAL PHARMACY' disc (the Tzadik
>one)?  What's it like?  I only have a live improv show for prepared
>guitar, so i expect a pre-planned piece would sound very different.
>
>-jascha
>
>
>
>
>No, but is this the same Jim O'Rourke who appears on Tony Conrad's "Slapping
Pythagorus" ?

glenn

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:28:08 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: "Yeah-shure,    Nah...er...ve'-so'n"    <[e-mail]>,
        zorn list <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
Subject: Re: jim o'rourke
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On Mon, 13 May 96 19:15:40 -0600  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May 1996, "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >does anyone have jim o'rourke's 'TERMINAL PHARMACY' disc (the Tzadik
> >one)?  What's it like?  I only have a live improv show for prepared
> >guitar, so i expect a pre-planned piece would sound very different.
> >
> >-jascha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >No, but is this the same Jim O'Rourke who appears on Tony Conrad's "Slapping
> Pythagorus" ?

Yes, the same.

    Patrice.

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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:55:00 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marc Kate)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Mr. Patton's Adult Voices
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'ello all

The question of Mike Patton's solo album, Adult Themes for Voice, has been
floating for too long.

The album is Patton's solo voice.  Very affected.  It is start/stop,
multitextural.  34-indistinguishable-from-the-next pieces, because they are
all so frenetic in themselves.  It was recorded in hotel rooms across this
fine planet of ours, which gives the album a nice narrative context.  I
would place it somewhere between Phil Minton and Masonna.  It is a joy to
own.

and also he is a babe (that is, without a panty on his head)


and also he was on Bob Ostertag's Fear No Love.  It's the only album of
Ostertag's that I do not own. Very disappointing.  It's a dance album, very
queer positive, with an all star cast, but the beats are tired.  Sorry Bob.
Peace out.

                                        Marc Kate
                                   415-826-4012
                             [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 08:04:11 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
To: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Cc: zorn list <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Marc Ribot
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On Fri, 3 May 1996 22:09:54 +0200 (METDST)  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> What's the title on the book by William Duckworth which has a interview with
> Zorn?

  * Talking Music: Conversations with American Experimental Composers, by
    William Duckworth

    Interview by William Duckworth (pp. 444-475)

    Schirmer Books, 1995 (ISBN 0-)

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