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From: [e-mail]
Subject: masada 4/5/96
Date: 06 Apr 1996 01:01:43 -0500

Just got back from seeing Masada at the Knitting Factory.
They couldnt have played better; it was outstanding.  But they werent
playing on the stage like most bands do- no, they were on the floor.
There were tables and chairs on the stage and on the floor.  And
there was one light shining down on them, mostly on Joey.  Guess
John wanted a more intimate setting.


Here's GOOD NEWS:

This Wednesday, the 10th, Bill Frisell will be doing a solo performance
between Masada sets AND he will be sitting in during Masada's second
set!!  YES!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!!  Does it show that I'm happy?


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: mailorder
Date: 06 Apr 1996 10:42:50 +0200 (METDST)

Anybody know any good mailorder places for Trigram, God Mountain and
Toy's Factory Records?

Jonas


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Loud Music
Date: 06 Apr 1996 11:01:17 -0500

Just a little something for those of you up here in the northeast.

The Loud Music Festival in Northampton, Mass. is happening from April 17-20.
There will be over 200 bands playing at night and panel discussions in the
day.

Of  interest here will be the Knitting Factory Stage on the 18th. Zorn will
be playing (possibly duets w/ Mike Patton), other NYC scenesters will be
brought up, and my group, Prelapse, will be playing.

My group will be performing pieces written for Naked City, including world
premiers, reworkings of older material, and possibly some original stuff too.


This is all the info I have, but y'all can call [phone] ext.5683   or
1-800-843-8425
for directions and tix.

Hope to see you there!
Mason


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: mailorder
Date: 06 Apr 1996 10:39:50 -0800


On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:42:50 +0200 (METDST)  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Anybody know any good mailorder places for Trigram, God Mountain and
> Toy's Factory Records?

You might try (I got Toy's Factory's records from them):


        JAPAN OVERSEAS
        6-1-21 Ueshio
        Tennoji-Ku
        Osaka 543
        Japan

   Specialized in hard to find Japanese records. Prices are high and you
   should check with the others before and rely on J.O. only ... when you can-
   not get it otherwise.

PAYMENT:

Payment in Japanese Yen or US Dollars is required prior to shipment.
(USA people, please, pay in US Dollars.)

        $$$ PAYMENT IN US DOLLARS $$$
        Send Money Order payable to "SHAO-YING WU", or cash in registered
        envelope.

BY AIR (2 to 3 weeks)

  TO USA:

        CD, 7": $5 for one, add $3 for each additional.
        LP, 12": $9 for one, add $6 for each additional.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Loud Music and the Prelapsarian Collective
Date: 06 Apr 1996 18:53:00 -0500 (EST)

Steve sez, check these guys out -- they are smokin'!


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From: Chris Scofield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: mailorder
Date: 06 Apr 1996 16:07:28 -0800 (PST)

You can also try Forced Exposure...they for sure distribute God
Mountain.  While yer at it, pick up Kirihito's _Da Vi De Bo_ on God
Mountain.  Thouroughly wonderful, one of the most original bands out
there.  Got to see them here in Olympia a monthe ago, and boy did they
deliver!
--c.

On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:

>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:42:50 +0200 (METDST)  [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > Anybody know any good mailorder places for Trigram, God Mountain and
> > Toy's Factory Records?
>
> You might try (I got Toy's Factory's records from them):
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         JAPAN OVERSEAS
>         6-1-21 Ueshio
>         Tennoji-Ku
>         Osaka 543
>         Japan
>
>    Specialized in hard to find Japanese records. Prices are high and you
>    should check with the others before and rely on J.O. only ... when you can-
>    not get it otherwise.
>
> PAYMENT:
>
> Payment in Japanese Yen or US Dollars is required prior to shipment.
> (USA people, please, pay in US Dollars.)
>
>         $$$ PAYMENT IN US DOLLARS $$$
>         Send Money Order payable to "SHAO-YING WU", or cash in registered
>         envelope.
>
> BY AIR (2 to 3 weeks)
>
>   TO USA:
>
>         CD, 7": $5 for one, add $3 for each additional.
>         LP, 12": $9 for one, add $6 for each additional.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Terwilliger )
Subject: Re: mailorder
Date: 06 Apr 1996 17:01:54 -0800

You wrote:
>
>You can also try Forced Exposure...they for sure distribute God
>Mountain.

Any idea how one could contact these folks? Do they have a catalog?

Thanks,


Sean


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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Re: mailorder
Date: 07 Apr 1996 01:40:17 -0600

>Forced Exposure...

>Any idea how one could contact these folks? Do they have a catalog?

3 Ways ...

1) Email:  [e-mail]

2) Phone:  [phone]

3) Mail:  Forced Exposure
          P.O. Box 9102
          Waltham, MA 02254-9102

Yup, they've got catalogs, email updates etc ...

I know they carry both God Mountain & Trigram.  I picked up Ground Zero's
"Revolutionary Pekinese Opera" from them last year ...


-Patrick



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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Loud Music and the Prelapsarian Collective
Date: 07 Apr 1996 12:07:02 -0700


On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:53:00 -0500 (EST)  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Steve sez, check these guys out -- they are smokin'!

Do they have recordings?

    Patrice.


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From: [e-mail] (John Shiurba)
Subject: eugene chadbourne and zorn
Date: 07 Apr 1996 04:18:08 GMT

eugene chadbourne was just here in the bay area for about a week playing a
bunch of shows. he stayed at my house for a few nights and i was working on
an article for the bay guardian so i got to interview him at length. one
thing i asked him about was his experience with zorn and how he felt about
the book of heads. i had heard rumors that the two of them had some bad
feelings and that the feeling among the musicians who knew JZ and EC at the
time was that zorn ripped chadbourne off right and left and that EC would
confirm this if i asked him about it. well i asked him and he had only
positive things to say about zorn, and literally laughed at the accusation
that zorn had ripped him off. he commented on how zorn's level of
perfectionism and his interest in super fast musical changes eventually led
them apart musically, but he displayed nothing but respect for zorn and said
that he would consider working together again if the right opportunity arose.
he also gave me a tape of a forthcoming cd (to be released on derek bailey's
label, incus) of zorn and chadbourne duos from 1980. it's really amazing
stuff, all improvised and pretty unlike the parachute records they made
together. chadbourne expressed regret that more of the improvisations they
played together had never seen the light of day.



shiurba


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From: [e-mail] (John Shiurba)
Subject: new jim staley
Date: 07 Apr 1996 04:20:52 +0000

i just notice this in cadence:

jim staley: "northern dancer" w/zorn, sharp, parkins (einstein)

has anyone seen or heard this?

shiurba


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Loud Music and the Prelapsarian Collective
Date: 08 Apr 1996 10:37:57 -0400

Hi y'all

I wanted to clear up a possible misconception concerning my last post. The
"Knitting Factory stage" at the Loud Music Festival (where Zorn, Anthony
Coleman, Prelapse, others are playing on april 18) will be somewhere in
Northampton, Massachussettes. NOT in the Knitting Factory in NYC. Call the
Loud Music people for tix/directions: 1(617) 232-2489 ext.5683  or
 1-800-843-8425.

Somebody asked about the "new" NC tunes. Technically, there aren't any new
tunes (except the ones I wrote! ;-) These are tunes that Zorn wrote for NC
but for whatever reason never recorded/rehearsed, or got around to them. Most
of them would feel very comfortable on the Grand Guignol or Radio albums. A
lot of the titles have the word "Blood" somewhere in them.

My group "Prelapse" should have a CD featuring this music out in a number of
months. No specifics yet, there are still a lot of details left to work
out.;-)

Mason


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New Staley CD, etc.
Date: 08 Apr 1996 12:04:59 -0400

My posts to this bulletin board have not been reaching their final
destination, and I have no clue as to why.  I'll continue to post in spite of
this, though, and hope that things work themselves out.  I saw the new Staley
CD the other day, and it appears as if Zorn only performed on one of the
tracks.  The listing in Cadence doesn't surprise me (in listing Zorn as a
contributor), as the same thing was done for Staley's reissue of his "Mumbo
Jumbo" recording, which again featured Zorn and listed him first among
contributors when in fact he only played on two or three tracks.  I also saw
the second volume of the "Collasal Saxophone Sessions" recording, which
looked as if it had about three performances by Zorn (I think that he showed
up twice on volume one).


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New Staley CD, etc.
Date: 08 Apr 1996 09:56:28 -0700


On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:04:59 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> My posts to this bulletin board have not been reaching their final
> destination, and I have no clue as to why.  I'll continue to post in spite of
> this, though, and hope that things work themselves out.  I saw the new Staley
> CD the other day, and it appears as if Zorn only performed on one of the
> tracks.  The listing in Cadence doesn't surprise me (in listing Zorn as a
> contributor), as the same thing was done for Staley's reissue of his "Mumbo
> Jumbo" recording, which again featured Zorn and listed him first among
> contributors when in fact he only played on two or three tracks.  I also saw
> the second volume of the "Collasal Saxophone Sessions" recording, which
> looked as if it had about three performances by Zorn (I think that he showed
> up twice on volume one).

You are confusing me. The Evidence 2xCD is the reissue of the two Japanese
volumes on King Records/Paddle Wheel.

Are you really saying that there is a second volume with 2xCD again?

    Patrice.


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From: "James A. Ross" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:
Date: 09 Apr 1996 08:40:20 -0500 (CDT)

does anybody know of recordings of zorn and M.Patton besides the Bungle Cd's?

J-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:
Date: 09 Apr 1996 09:54:52 -0400

There is "Elegy," Zorn's free jazz chamber excercise which featured Patton,
Trey Spruance (Scummy), and David Shea (who spun some turntables on the first
Bungle CD)...


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From: Matt Walsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re:
Date: 09 Apr 1996 10:11:00 PDT


>From: "James A. Ross" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re:
>
>does anybody know of recordings of zorn and M.Patton besides the Bungle
Cd's?
>
>J-

First off, John Zorn was not involved in Mr. Bungle's 2nd album, only the
first. Patton is also on Zorn's "Elegy" album, which was fairly recently
re-released on Tzadik. I haven't listened to it in a while, but from what I
remember, it's not like anything Patton's done before, a lot more mellow.

I'm also having problems with this mailing list. I know I've sent a post a
few times and it never appeared. I guess we'll see if this makes it.

Matt
[e-mail]


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From: "Though nothing drops, there's nothing caught. --R. F. Langley"
Subject: A few things
Date: 09 Apr 1996 12:48:21 -0300

1)  I talked to Greg Cohen's wife when Masada played the Victoriaville
Festival last year.  According to her the purple hand is simply a weird
birthmark.

2)  The Zorn/Parker/Bailey album is called _Harras_, on Avant.  On a
related topic, (a) does anyone know if/when the Bailey/Laswell/Williams
collaboration has been/will be released, and (b) did anyone catch Bailey &
Pat Metheny at the Knitting Factory?  I hope they recorded it!!  --N


Nate Dorward                    Nobody steps on
e-mail:  [e-mail]            a mine of information
web:  http://ac.dal.ca/~ndorward/        twice.
        homepage.html                      (Alan Halsey)


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Terwilliger )
Subject: Re: A few things
Date: 09 Apr 1996 09:22:31 -0700

You wrote:
 (a) does anyone know if/when the Bailey/Laswell/Williams
>collaboration has been/will be released, and (b) did anyone catch
Bailey &
>Pat Metheny at the Knitting Factory?  I hope they recorded it!!  --N
>
>----------------------------------
>
>Nate Dorward                    Nobody steps on
>e-mail:  [e-mail]            a mine of information
>web:  http://ac.dal.ca/~ndorward/        twice.
>        homepage.html                      (Alan Halsey)
>
>


On the Knit-Fac. web page, It says that (the Bailey-Metheny) is
scheduled for release this year. (I think in June).

Oh boy, do I want the Bailey/Laswell/Williams. That should just be
fantastic.

-Sean


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: A few things
Date: 09 Apr 1996 09:36:40 -0700


On Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:22:31 -0700  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> You wrote:
>  (a) does anyone know if/when the Bailey/Laswell/Williams
> >collaboration has been/will be released, and (b) did anyone catch
> Bailey &
> >Pat Metheny at the Knitting Factory?  I hope they recorded it!!  --N

If I remember well, the concert got cancelled, Bailey still being sick.

> On the Knit-Fac. web page, It says that (the Bailey-Metheny) is
> scheduled for release this year. (I think in June).

Yes, but I think this release was based on the show happening... It
might come up, but later.

    Patrice.


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From: John Farley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: mailorder
Date: 09 Apr 1996 14:21:11 EDT

i just saw masada performed.  it was incredible.  for anyone who hasn't seen
zorn yet, i suggest going immediately, it was a completely altered state of consciousness


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From: Gary Chesser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: mailorder
Date: 10 Apr 1996 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT)



    I would appreciate any infomation on Zorn tour schedule.



Peace,
GDCII



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Bailey/Metheny
Date: 10 Apr 1996 11:54:58 PDT

This is not a Zorn-specific posting, but it does apply
to something many people have been posting about lately.

The Derek Bailey / Pat Metheny dates and recording at
the Knitting Factory did not happen.  Derek, as many of
you may have heard, collapsed of sheer exhaustion last
October, right after a concert with Tony Oxley at the
Knitting Factory.  He didn't get to go to Chattanooga
for a Company week with Zorn, Frith and the Shaking Ray
Levis.

He was starting to feel better but took another turn for
the worse in winter, just as he was getting ready to
go to Germany for dates with Henry Kaiser.  And he didn't
make it to the KnitFac in March, either.

The Knitting Factory has rescheduled the performances
for November (not August, as I inadvertantly e-mailed
a Zorn-list participant yesterday), at Bailey's request.
The recording will be made then, and is to be issued
on the Knitting Factory Works label.  Pat (who was
spotted at a Masada gig earlier this week) is still
very eager to do the project.

Word is that Bill Frisell will be sitting in with
Masada tonight...

Steve Smith
KOCH International


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Frisell/Masada
Date: 12 Apr 1996 18:08:53 +0200 (METDST)

So how was the Frisell/Masada gig?


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From: [e-mail] (jonathan kaye)
Subject: masada/frisell
Date: 13 Apr 1996 00:47:12 -0400

i caught wednesday's late set with frisell at the knitting factory. as an
aside, i'm really tired of the kf treating the fans like shit. three shows
in one evening made it impossible to get up and down the stairs, only one
bartender on duty and packed into the performance like sardines - but the
knitting factory's always been like that and probably always will be.

anyway, what everyone's really concerned with - the performance. i felt
that frisell really took a lot away from the vibe the band was trying to
give off. face it, the band practices as a quartet and they've been playing
as a quartet live recently and frisell's electric guitar just didn't fit
in. i used to be a big fan of frisell's but it seems that his style just
refuses to change and it's gotten a bit old to me by now. zorn seemed happy
to let him solo throughout the night but, except for the last song of the
set, his solos really led nowhere. finally during the last song (sorry,
it's too tough to match masada titles to the songs) he let go with a really
funky solo which was great. also, during the same song (and the encore)
anthony coleman played piano and that added a lot to both songs - i'd like
to see a full show with coleman on piano.

i guess frisell just didn't seem to fit in with the accoustic masada
format. eveyone on stage joked around and laughed a lot but some friends i
brought to the show, who are totally unfamiliar with zorn/frisell and their
ongoing musical relationship thought the band was actually making fun of
him during the set. while i'm sure that wasn't what was going on, they were
right when they pointed out that frisell looks a lot like steve forbes.

jon



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From: [e-mail] (jonathan kaye)
Subject: zorn/judaism
Date: 13 Apr 1996 00:54:29 -0400

has zorn ever spoken in public about what his feelings on judaism are? i
know he's the unofficial leader of the radical jewish culture scene, but,
for example, during the september '93 zorn month at the knitting factory i
believe he played on both of the high holy days. also, he seem to alway be
wearing tsetsin (sp?), the fringe orthodox jews wear around their waist,
but he doesn't wear a yarmulke, which is supposed to be worn with tsitsin.

i'm not trying to set him up or anything. as an atheist who was raised
jewish i certainly consider myself to belong to a jewish culture and don't
reject the religion, but was wondering if zorn has spoken on this topic.

jon



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: masada/frisell
Date: 13 Apr 1996 03:13:10 -0400

I caught the Frisell set and the Masada set on Wednesday.
I was a great evening.   For anyone who is a Frisell fan,
trust me--it was incredible!  He fit in and really added to the sound of the
band.
I've seen Masada 8 or 9 times and they always sound great, that night they
sounded like Masada, but with an amazing guitarist who can sit
in with anybody.  This wasnt the first time Frisell has played with
them.

Zorn was definitely psyched to have Bill there (as was everyone
else in the band).  He also let out some great comments throughout the
night. "Come on Bill give it to me! Play that motherfucker!!"  After the
first tune someone told Bill to turn up, then someone said to Bill,
"show us your nasty side" then Zorn says "You can suck his nasty side!"

They did some tunes that arent usually played by Masada, I've got
a setlist, I'm not sure if all the spellings are right, but here it is:


1) Midbar
2) Halom
3) Miktav
4) Baciarach (sp?)
5) Idalah - abal
6) Hafla'ah
7) Kilayum
 ----
8) Vehuel
9) Gewrah (encore)

___________________________


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Zorn & Walter Hill
Date: 13 Apr 1996 14:01:31 -0400

I tried to post this a week ago but it apparently never went through.

Zorn was thanked in the closing credits to Trespass; does anybody know why?
 I remembered this when seeing the upcoming release of soundtrack music for
an "untitled film."

Best, Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm


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From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject:       Two Things
Date: 15 Apr 1996 09:07:33 +500


1)
Has anyone heard Makigami Koichi's new solo project on Tzadik?  Is it
worth listening too, if you like Shelley Hirsch, David Moss, Phil Minton
or other vocally experimental musicians?  Are the pieces all by Koichi
or are there pieces by other composers?

2)
At a mail-order site, Take Notes (www.computek.net/tknotes), I saw a listing
for Masada IV (along with 1-3,5,6).  I assume, if he's listing it, he can get
it.  I just thought I'd pass this info along for anyone who is lamenting that
they missed the freebie send-in opportunity and needs their Masada fix.  If
anyone has any more info, please post.

Thanks,
Pete


---
     Train thy digits in the making of music that you may sing these
      verses at weddings and banquets, and gaze dumbly at the guest
               who hisses when you strum these chords.

Peter Risser                                        [e-mail]
Systems Engineer                                    1-800-888-1140 x17


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From: scott mclemore <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: masada/frisell
Date: 15 Apr 1996 14:24:52 -0400 (EDT)

Wow, what a great show.  Zorn really knows how to put a band together.
Frisell is always great, but Anthony Coleman I had never checked out.  He
sounded swell. I had always seen Zorn as more of a conceptualist or an
arranger than a composer, but the dude can write.  Those tunes were
inspiring, and has definitely made me consider buying more Masada CDs.
The KF has all six advertised for $18 a pop (If I remember right).
That's all. Joy of joy.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: The elusive Masada IV
Date: 15 Apr 1996 19:26:37 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-15 09:21:12 EDT, you write:

>At a mail-order site, Take Notes (www.computek.net/tknotes), I saw a listing
>for Masada IV (along with 1-3,5,6).  I assume, if he's listing it, he can
get
>it.  I just thought I'd pass this info along for anyone who is lamenting
that
>they missed the freebie send-in opportunity and needs their Masada fix.  If
>anyone has any more info, please post.
>
>

I find this very hard to believe, unless Masada IV has been reissued or
bootlegged. My copy says "not for sale"  on the back in the lower right.
 Patrice would probably know if its been reissued, and he would have
mentioned it already since I think he's pychic-ly  linked to all Zorn's
releases!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: masada/frisell
Date: 15 Apr 1996 19:26:42 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-15 14:37:58 EDT, you write:

>inspiring, and has definitely made me consider buying more Masada CDs.
>The KF has all six advertised for $18 a pop (If I remember right).
>That's all. Joy of joy.

No the Knitting Factory only has 1,2,3,5,6. They do not have 4 (Dalet).

      I did not see the Frisell show, but I did catch 6 Masada shows last
week. They have plenty of material, plus I heard a few tunes that are "new".
Zorn mentioned one being a "world premiere", plus last monday's show featured
new tunes that they seemed to be working out as they went along. I would
assume there will be a Masada 7 in the future..

     Also worthy of mention, Zorn will be performing at the Knitting Factory
Wednesday of this week with Mike Patton at Midnight. In a few weeks he will
also be there performing with his collection of duck calls.


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From: Me <[e-mail]>
Subject: Masada + Coleman
Date: 15 Apr 1996 22:37:59 -0500 (CDT)


Wow, just the thought of Anthony Coleman playing with Masada makes my
mouth water...don't suppose anyone has a tape of the show (here's
hoping).  Sounds like another reason why I wish I lived near the Knit
(just wait, I keep telling myself, July 3-6 I'll get the chance to be
there, just wait...)

Out 2 lunch with lunchmeat,

Paul
[e-mail]
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  GROOVE   "Real individual self-expression is so rare, so rare, that when the
---------- person uses any kind of stimulant to maintain his emotional energy,
one nation it always works against his expression."           -Ornette Coleman
           ----------------------O(+>-Emancipation-1996?----------------------


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From: [e-mail] (Marc Kate)
Subject: Re: Makigami Koichi
Date: 15 Apr 1996 22:33:02 -0800

>Has anyone heard Makigami Koichi's new solo project on Tzadik?
Yes.
>Is it
>worth listening too, if you like Shelley Hirsch, David Moss, Phil Minton
>or other vocally experimental musicians?
Yes, absolutely.
>Are the pieces all by Koichi
>or are there pieces by other composers?
All solo improvs.
Buy it.

                                        Marc Kate
                                   415-826-4012
                             [e-mail]



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From: "D.J. Toman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 18:47:51 GMT

Hi Y'all,

I just got a DAT machine (well, two to be able to trade) and am eager to
begin trading soon.  Unfortunately, I've only seen people lurking around the
net groveling for and trading Dead, Phish, God St. Wine, and all that stuff,
or Medeski, Martin & Wood at best.  My interest in this (other than MMW) is
zero.

I'm wondering if anyone out there is taping Knit shows and such "downtown"
type music.  I'm far more interested in creative improvised music such as
will be featured in the Knit's "What is Jazz?" festival (see the schedule at
the Knit's web site -- unbelievable!) than the rock-based aesthetic.

I'll have some choice DATs (masters) to trade soon.  However, I could accept
HQ analogs, too.

Post to list or email me with any responses.

Thanks,

David in Taipei


_____________________________________________________________
Taipei, Taiwan               <[e-mail]>

 ..."we advocate the independence of the Taiwanese nationality."
-- Sun Yatsen (1925)

 "Every damn one of them ought to be in jail. I'd like to live
  to see the day they are."
-- Harry S. Truman on the extended Chiang Kai-shek clan
_____________________________________________________________


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From: [e-mail] (Denman F. Maroney)
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 07:21:12 -0400

Why don't you buy some CD's instead?  You'll get better quality audio and
you'll be supporting the artists instead of ripping them off.

On Apr 16, 1996 18:47:51, '"D.J. Toman" <[e-mail]>' wrote:


>Hi Y'all,
>
>I just got a DAT machine (well, two to be able to trade) and am eager to
begin
>trading soon.  Unfortunately, I've only seen people lurking around the net

>groveling for and trading Dead, Phish, God St. Wine, and all that stuff,
or
>Medeski, Martin & Wood at best.  My interest in this (other than MMW) is
zero.
>
>I'm wondering if anyone out there is taping Knit shows and such "downtown"
type
>music.  I'm far more interested in creative improvised music such as will
be
>featured in the Knit's "What is Jazz?" festival (see the schedule at the
Knit's
>web site -- unbelievable!) than the rock-based aesthetic.
>
>I'll have some choice DATs (masters) to trade soon.  However, I could
accept HQ
>analogs, too.
>
>Post to list or email me with any responses.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David in Taipei
>
>
>_____________________________________________________________ Taipei,
Taiwan
><[e-mail]>
>
>..."we advocate the independence of the Taiwanese nationality." -- Sun
Yatsen
>(1925)
>
>"Every damn one of them ought to be in jail. I'd like to live   to see the
day
>they are."
>-- Harry S. Truman on the extended Chiang Kai-shek clan
>_____________________________________________________________
>
--
Denman Maroney


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From: Gary Chesser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 10:30:51 -0400 (EDT)

> Why don't you buy some CD's instead?  You'll get better quality audio and
> you'll be supporting the artists instead of ripping them off.
>
    What if you have every Zorn Album AND CD but still need a fix that
can only be supplied by trading bootlegs ?? Is it still unethical ?



Peace to all,
GDCII



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From: [e-mail]
Subject:       Take notes cd's
Date: 16 Apr 1996 15:16:30 CST6CDT

The Digest is working again - HOOORAY!

>Date:          Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:07:33 +500
>From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject:       Two Things

>At a mail-order site, Take Notes (www.computek.net/tknotes), I saw a
>listing
>for Masada IV (along with 1-3,5,6).  I assume, if he's listing it, he can
>get it.  I just thought I'd pass this info along for anyone who is
>lamenting that they missed the freebie send-in opportunity and needs their
>Masada fix.  If anyone has any more info, please post.
>
>Thanks,
>Pete

I know the owner of Take Notes here in Dallas, and I'll give him a call this
afternoon to clear it up for sure.  I'm guessing that it's a mistake because
often times he puts things on his catalog that he may not keep in stock, and
I think he just overlooked Dalet (IV) assuming he could get all Masada CD's.
Whoops.
Chris Sipe
[e-mail]
www.unt.edu/~cls0007
Creator of the UNT Percussion site:
www.music.unt.edu/Percussion/Main.html

"Make way for the Iron Sausage!" - Bald Headed John
                                   from Zappa's Joe's Garage


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 16:45:59 -0400


>Subj:    Re: Knit Taping
>Date:    96-04-16 07:41:02 EDT
>From:    [e-mail] (Denman F. Maroney)
>Resent-from:    [e-mail]
>To:    [e-mail] (D.J. Toman)
>CC:    [e-mail]
>
>Why don't you buy some CD's instead?  You'll get better quality audio and
>you'll be supporting the artists instead of ripping them off.

Why do you assume that he doesnt own all of Zorn's cd's?  For all you know
this guy has 2000 cd's in his collection.  How do you know that he is not
friends with Zorn?  How do you know if he tapes shows with artists permission
or not?
- So who exactly do you think this gentleman is ripping off?  How could he be
ripping anybody off, he says he is looking to TRADE tapes, not sell them.
 Why don't you stop doing so much assuming.  You know what Confucius says
when you assume.

IOUaLive1


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 18:19:00 -0400

RIGHT ON! Since when did we all get so puritanical.


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 15:37:32 -0700


On Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:19:00 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> RIGHT ON! Since when did we all get so puritanical.

Maybe we might inform the kids on the list that many grown up musicians
frequent it and that words such as bootleg and taping mean more to
them than just fucking up the system and showing their rebelious side to
the face of society.

I have personally nothing against taping shows. But let's try to avoid
making this list a forum for such activities.

    Patrice.


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From: [e-mail] (Dan Given)
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 19:31:30 -0400 (EDT)

What I find interesting about this discussion is that during the recent one
on Naked City video tapes, someone suggested finding out what the musicians
themselves thought.  Now, when the topic of trading tapes of downtown
musicians comes up, and one of them (Denman Maroney) speaks out against it
he is accused of being puritanical for defending his right to have controp
over his art, and make a living.

Dan


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From: Jesse Canterbury <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zorn/Frisell:  good or bad????
Date: 16 Apr 1996 11:30:49 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, Apr 13, '96, [e-mail] said:

> anyway, what everyone's really concerned with - the performance. i felt
> that frisell really took a lot away from the vibe the band was trying to
> give off...
> ... solo throughout the night but, except for the last song of the
> set, his solos really led nowhere.

Or, to paraphrase, it was lame.

In apparent contradiction, [e-mail] said:

> It was a great evening.   For anyone who is a Frisell fan,
> trust me--it was incredible!  He fit in and really added to the sound of the
> band.

Or, to paraphrase, it was great.

What gives?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 17 Apr 1996 20:24:45 -0400

This is a good topic. Knit. Taping. Here's the argument:

1)The Knit is the coolest place to hear music in NYC. It's smoke free, almost
every "seat" is good. the alcohol is affordable. The employees are friendly.
The shows are inexpensive(if you don't think so, go to the Blue Note
sometime). There is ample parking  usually, not to mention a six dollar
parking garage nearby. They sell reasonably priced  CD's. They take credit
cards. The give out free post cards.But most of all, they present the most
unique music available in today's market.

        They also announce before the shows that there is to be no taping.

2)Since they are so cool, as stated in #1, why not honor their request??

Now that's a good argument against taping at the Knitting Factory. With
regards to taping say, Judas Priest at the Madison Square Garden. Who cares,
right?

3)Now here's the contradiction to really complicate #2.
    There is a guy I see at EVERY (that's every, really) Zorn show in the
front row with a microphone and a microphone stand taping the show with what
appears to be a cheap beat up tape deck. He hides this from no one, and it is
clearly visible to the KNit staff, as well as Zorn.

                  SO WHAT'S THE DEAL????????????????????

I say, if you cannot live without some primitive, non-professional, noisey,
unmixed, audience recording(you know, the one's with the guy you can hear in
the next seat going "wow" look at that!!" "that was Awesome" "I'm out of
beer") Then go ahead and tape the show. Until I see the Knit. stop the above
mentioned guy in  #3 from blatantly taping,  go ahead. Smuggle your DAT
recorders in to record Zorn. But really, you should only be taping Zorn
illegally if you've aquired every entry from PAtrice's complete discography.

                                 Love & Kisses- Barbi


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From: [e-mail] (Denman F. Maroney)
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 18 Apr 1996 06:40:59 -0400

On Apr 17, 1996 18:13:22, '"Patrice L. Roussel"
<[e-mail]>' wrote:

I would say you should only tape Zorn (or whomever) if you have both his
and the venue's permission, you have bought all his prior releases, you
intend to buy all his future releases, and you refrain from trading your
recordings with anyone who does not also fulfill all these conditions.

>> recorders in to record Zorn. But really, you should only be taping Zorn
>> illegally if you've aquired every entry from PAtrice's complete
discography.
>>
>>                                  Love & Kisses- Barbi
>>
--
Denman Maroney


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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Pettersen)
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: 18 Apr 1996 15:21:18 +0200

can someone unsubcribe me please?


* http://www.cappelen.no/~gsteigan/tramhcpg.html *


thomp



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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: magazines
Date: 18 Apr 1996 16:35:30 +0200 (METDST)

Is there any good magazines on the New York Downtown scene? I'm also looking
for good magazines on jazz, noise (mainly the japanese/asian scence),
improvisation and stuff like that. Any good ideas?

Jonas



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From: THE RAT <[e-mail]>
Subject: Robin Holcomb: Little Three
Date: 18 Apr 1996 05:16:05 -1000


All this activity on the list, and I have yet to see any reaction to
Robin Holcomb's latest disc, "Little Three." I haven't been able to stop
playing it. In fact, "Wherein Lies the Good" is making me itch to get my
piano technique back up to par to perform it. (Of course, that would take
quite a bit of work.)

I know acquiring scores to new pieces takes quite a sum of money, but I
think I'm willing and/or crazy enough to make the investment. How can I
get in touch with Holcomb's publishers about getting a score to some of
these pieces? Fave tracks include both vocal pieces -- "The Graveyard
Song" and "The Window" -- "Tiny Sisters" and "Wherein Lies the Good."

Any other opinions?

Kimberly Fu told me to change my .sig, so I did.
                                               Duran Duran "Gossip" FAQ *
Greg Bueno                                The Zero * The End of the World
[e-mail]                            http://www2.hawaii.edu/~bueno



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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 18 Apr 1996 08:40:38 -0700


    Denman,

On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 06:40:59 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> On Apr 17, 1996 18:13:22, '"Patrice L. Roussel"
> <[e-mail]>' wrote:
>
> I would say you should only tape Zorn (or whomever) if you have both his
> and the venue's permission, you have bought all his prior releases, you
> intend to buy all his future releases, and you refrain from trading your
> recordings with anyone who does not also fulfill all these conditions.

Looks to me like the intersection of all these prerequisites is close
to zero :-).

    Patrice.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 18 Apr 1996 20:47:29 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-17 20:38:27 EDT, you write:

>This is a good topic. Knit. Taping. Here's the argument:
>
>1)The Knit is the coolest place to hear music in NYC. It's smoke free,
almost
>every "seat" is good. the alcohol is affordable. The employees are friendly.
>The shows are inexpensive(if you don't think so, go to the Blue Note
>sometime). There is ample parking  usually, not to mention a six dollar
>parking garage nearby. They sell reasonably priced  CD's. They take credit
>cards. The give out free post cards.But most of all, they present the most
>unique music available in today's market.
>
>        They also announce before the shows that there is to be no taping.

Do they announce that before *every* show at the KF?  No they don't.  (Just
trying to keep
you honest :)  And the announcement they usually make is "no recording
without the
permission of the artist."
I'm just playing the devil's advocate here, I dont want anyone to think that
I am
a "b--tlegger"...

>2)Since they are so cool, as stated in #1, why not honor their request??
>
>Now that's a good argument against taping at the Knitting Factory. With
>regards to taping say, Judas Priest at the Madison Square Garden. Who cares,
>right?
>
>3)Now here's the contradiction to really complicate #2.
>    There is a guy I see at EVERY (that's every, really) Zorn show in the
>front row with a microphone and a microphone stand taping the show with what
>appears to be a cheap beat up tape deck. He hides this from no one, and it
is
>clearly visible to the KNit staff, as well as Zorn.
>
>                  SO WHAT'S THE DEAL????????????????????

As said before, that is Bruce from the downtown music gallery.  Somebody from
there
used to post to this list.  I think he gets into all the shows for free too.
 Membership does
have its priveleges...
>
>I say, if you cannot live without some primitive, non-professional, noisey,
>unmixed, audience recording(you know, the one's with the guy you can hear in
>the next seat going "wow" look at that!!" "that was Awesome" "I'm out of
>beer") Then go ahead and tape the show. Until I see the Knit. stop the above
>mentioned guy in  #3 from blatantly taping,  go ahead. Smuggle your DAT
>recorders in to record Zorn.

I'm sure the downtown taping population will be glad to hear someone
approves!
>But really, you should only be taping Zorn
>illegally if you've aquired every entry from PAtrice's complete discography.
>

*NOBODY* has every entry from Patrice's discography!  Not one person on this
planet.
There are to many obscure things out there.

Lets say somebody has every Masada cd, would it be ok for that person to tape

a Masada show?  Or, take for example the Zorn/ Patton duo gig.  There is no
cd
of these two musicians playing in a duo format.  So then would anybody have
the right to
tape that show?  Or lets say the Masada show which had Frisell sitting in,
and Anthony Coleman
on two tunes.  I guess one would have to have all the Masada cd's and every
Frisell recording
to be able to tape that one.  And since Anthony Coleman was only guesting on
two tunes, you would
only need to own a couple of his recordings...

The only reason we are having this discussion is because nobody knows exactly
how
Zorn feels about people taping his shows from the audience.  (With some other
artists it is
clearly known, but we are talking about Zorn.) I think it is cool that people
out
there are so into his music that they would love to have an audience
recording of him.
And its harmless.  I would guess that Zorn feels the same way.

>
>                                 Love & Kisses- Barbi

with sugar,
Jody

PS- what did anyone think of the Zorn/ Patton duo last night?  I thought is
was great,
and I am thankful that my hearing is still intact....



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From: Gary Chesser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Knit Taping [NZC]
Date: 18 Apr 1996 10:48:35 -0400 (EDT)

    I believe this thread should die a horrible death but I cannot
leave it alone. With this said explain the following privatly to me off list
so we do not bore the others.

    From a strictly historical perspective these "Bootlegs" tapes meet
a rather large requirment. I would like to know every song that was played
every day for any concert. I would also like know about every note
practiced along w/ transcriptions.
    If I may make an analogy , think of rembrandt making paintings and
he dies just before releasing his final works. Do we not release these to the
public or do we release them. The same would be true of John Coltrane , Miles
Davis or any artist. We learn and are inwardly pushed to learn more and more
about these masters.
    Selling a Bootleg is wrong , immoral and illegal but the discographic
purist is forced to acquire any sound he or she can from a Master in any way.



Peace to all , Sorry for Spam Material,
GDCII



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From: [e-mail] (Denman F. Maroney)
Subject: Re: Knit Taping [NZC]
Date: 19 Apr 1996 06:21:28 -0400

On Apr 18, 1996 10:48:35, 'Gary Chesser <[e-mail]>'
wrote:


>    I believe this thread should die a horrible death but I cannot leave it
alone.
>With this said explain the following privatly to me off list so we do not
bore
>the others.
>
You ask me to reply off list yet you write to the list. So I reply to the
list. It's not dead yet.

>    From a strictly historical perspective these "Bootlegs" tapes meet a
rather
>large requirment. I would like to know every song that was played every
day for
>any concert. I would also like know about every note practiced along w/
>transcriptions.

I think bootlegs can serve history and still meet my requirements.  If the
artist does not want to be taped, he does not wish to serve history in that
way.  Brahms burned a lot of his scores.   (Incidentally the person whose
post prompted my remark, which started this thread, wrote back to me,
privately, it seems, and said he did meet all the requirements.)

>    If I may make an analogy , think of rembrandt making paintings and he
dies
>just before releasing his final works. Do we not release these to the
public or
>do we release them. The same would be true of John Coltrane , Miles Davis
or
>any artist. We learn and are inwardly pushed to learn more and more about
these
>masters.

Rembrandt was not a performer.

>    Selling a Bootleg is wrong , immoral and illegal but the discographic
purist
>is forced to acquire any sound he or she can from a Master in any way.
>
There are a lot of lousy tapes of Charlie Parker that I think we could do
without.
>
>
>Peace to all , Sorry for Spam Material, GDCII
>
>
--
Denman Maroney


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: live taping
Date: 19 Apr 1996 19:03:17 +0200 (METDST)

I found this on rec.music.bluenote and thought some of you might be
interested:

James Forrest <[e-mail]> writes:

>I'm looking for John Zorn's Masada's Daled (album #4).  Is there
>anyone out there willing to sell me the album, or make a copy (tape
>provided) for me?

    i, too, would do anything to get my hands on that albums !
on a related note, i saw Masada last weekend and someone was taping it.  i
asked if there was a way i could get a cpoy and the guy said it was for an
album to be released !!!!





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 19 Apr 1996 13:48:12 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-17 21:33:16 EDT, you write:

>ut really, you should only be taping Zorn
>> illegally if you've aquired every entry from PAtrice's complete discograph

Do you think someone could send me a copy of that complete discography?
thanks.


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zorn on MTV
Date: 19 Apr 1996 19:03:58 +0200 (METDST)

Did everybody know that MTV uses a Naked City tunes as a jingle?

Jonas


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Zorn & Walter Hill
Date: 19 Apr 1996 20:30:52 -0400

I've tried posting this twice over the past three weeks & it hasn't gone
through.  Maybe this time....

Zorn was thanked at the end of the credits for Trespass; does anybody know
why?
(I thought of this seeing the listing for a new Tzadik album of soundtracks
for an unnamed movie.)

Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn & Walter Hill
Date: 19 Apr 1996 17:56:54 -0700


On Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:30:52 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> I've tried posting this twice over the past three weeks & it hasn't gone
> through.  Maybe this time....
>
> Zorn was thanked at the end of the credits for Trespass; does anybody know
> why?

Zorn plays on it. Seems to me like a good reason to be thanked. Or are you
thinking about something else?

> (I thought of this seeing the listing for a new Tzadik album of soundtracks
> for an unnamed movie.)
>
> Lang Thompson
> http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm
>
>


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From: plantarm <[e-mail]>
Subject: parker
Date: 19 Apr 1996 10:57:52 -0500 (EST)

i have no desire whatsoever to discuss bootlegging as a general
practice.  in fact, i've already discussed it too much in the past.
but denman said that there were a lot of tapes of charlie parker
which we could do without, which is a hefty and unqualified statement.
parker is a figure unique in jazz: virtually every time he played,
he played something worth hearing.  even the lowest quality tapes
of parker are of historical significance to parker scholars because
he was such a rare musical talent.  the most colossal bootlegging
ever undertaken, and subsequently released for mass consumption, is
the dean benedetti series (available on Mosaic).  these are not
unvaluable in any way: they catch parker in the studio, at gigs,
and just playing for no reason, and they illuminate what his life
was really like, and how he played solo after solo with such high
invention.  i suspect that many bird disciples would be highly
dissatisfied with only the "official" master takes of his studio
tunes, plus a handful of club dates.... there was so much more to
him than that.


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From: [e-mail] (jonathan kaye)
Subject: zorn/judaism
Date: 19 Apr 1996 23:37:36 -0400

has zorn ever spoken in public about what his feelings on judaism are? i
know he's the unofficial leader of the radical jewish culture scene, but,
for example, during the september '93 zorn month at the knitting factory i
believe he played on both of the high holy days. also, he seem to alway be
wearing tsetsin (sp?), the fringe orthodox jews wear around their waist,
but he doesn't wear a yarmulke, which is supposed to be worn with tsitsin.

i'm not trying to set him up or anything. as an atheist who was raised
jewish i certainly consider myself to belong to a jewish culture and don't
reject the religion, but was wondering if zorn has spoken on this topic.

jon



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
Subject: Re: Zorn & Walter Hill
Date: 19 Apr 1996 21:57:56 -0700

At 5:56 PM 4/19/96, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:

>Zorn plays on it. Seems to me like a good reason to be thanked. Or are you
>thinking about something else?

Where?  He isn't on the score or soundtrack CDs and I don't remember
hearing him on the movie, which I saw twice.


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/



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From: Teemu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn on MTV
Date: 20 Apr 1996 16:20:52 +0200 (GMT+0200)

On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Torsten Nielsen wrote:

> Did everybody know that MTV uses a Naked City tunes as a jingle?
>=20
> Jonas

I haven=ABt heard NC on MTV, but the channel 2 of Finnish National Radio=20
(called =ABRadiomafia=AB...) uses =ABBatman=AB as a theme for one program.=
=20
Can=ABt remember the name of the program, thought.

      from Teemu  ---->  [e-mail]
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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: zorn/judaism
Date: 20 Apr 1996 09:36:20 -0700


On Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:37:36 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> has zorn ever spoken in public about what his feelings on judaism are? i
> know he's the unofficial leader of the radical jewish culture scene, but,
> for example, during the september '93 zorn month at the knitting factory i
> believe he played on both of the high holy days. also, he seem to alway be
> wearing tsetsin (sp?), the fringe orthodox jews wear around their waist,
> but he doesn't wear a yarmulke, which is supposed to be worn with tsitsin.
>
> i'm not trying to set him up or anything. as an atheist who was raised
> jewish i certainly consider myself to belong to a jewish culture and don't
> reject the religion, but was wondering if zorn has spoken on this topic.

I asked him the question last September (having followed Zorn for a while, it
was a surprise to discover his fairly late interest about the jewish culture).
"It started in 1990. Many of my friend musicians (Jewish) were coming back
from touring in Germany with sad stories about a regain of antisemistism.
At that time I (Zorn) realized that I was not a *white* person."

As you can see, it did not start with a mystical experience or a deep
curiosity about his roots, but more as a political/social reaction (which
seems more in line with Zorn's character). He was definitely talking about
the early '90s. I didn't ask him about his religious beliefs. Could what
started on the political/social level became more on the religious one?
I don't know.

    Patrice.


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Terwilliger )
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 16 Apr 1996 08:18:06 -0700

You wrote:
>
>> Why don't you buy some CD's instead?  You'll get better quality
audio and
>> you'll be supporting the artists instead of ripping them off.
>>
>    What if you have every Zorn Album AND CD but still need a fix
that
>can only be supplied by trading bootlegs ?? Is it still unethical ?
>
>
>
>Peace to all,
>GDCII
>
>
>

Sure. Zorn does not profit from this venture. He may not want you to
own this music. However, I understand the need and desire for these
shows. I'd love to have some Naked City live stuff, or Material live
from the Memory Serves era (hint hint).

So the answer (from me, at least) is: Yes it's unethical, but sometimes
ethics must be ignored!)

-Sean


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From: Matt Moffett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn on MTV
Date: 20 Apr 1996 14:11:00 -0500 (EST)



> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Torsten Nielsen wrote:
>
> > Did everybody know that MTV uses a Naked City tunes as a jingle?
> >
> > Jonas
>
Jim Thirwell of the band Foetus does a lot of promo jingle stuff for Mtv,
or at least he used to.  He's a big fan of Zorn, so maybe it's his doing.

matt



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Zorn on MTV
Date: 20 Apr 1996 19:09:13 -0400

> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Torsten Nielsen wrote:
>
> > Did everybody know that MTV uses a Naked City tunes as a jingle?
> >
> > Jonas

Ironic, isn't it?  The guitar riff that they've used for years when you see
their logo is by the Butthole Surfers, a group that has probably never been
played on MTV.  Has Naked City ever appeared on MTV?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: zorn/judaism
Date: 21 Apr 1996 11:47:49 -0400

For Zorn to wear tzit tzit, the garment with a strand of fringe at each of
its four corners, while not wearing a yarmulke, the small circular head
covering, actually makes perfect sense.  The act of wearing tzit tzit is an
actual commandment from G-d to the Jewish people, whereas wearing a yarmulke
has no basis in any divine commandments, and exists only as a man made
tradition carried through the generations.

Has anybody picked up the colored vinyl ep "Live at the Pecci Museum?"  I
could have the exact title mistaken, but it is something to that effect, and
it is a live recording from 1995, and is issued as a limited edition.  I'm
wondering if it is a recording of him performing solo, with a band (which
band?), or what not.  It is quite affordable ($9 or so), but I would like to
know what it contains before ordering one.

When is the new batch of Tzadik releases scheduled to arrive?  I am anxious
to hear the vocal trio with Tatsuya Yoshida, the solo voice recording by Mike
Patton, and whatever Zorn resissues are on the way.  Isn't there an Eyvind
Kang CD on the horizon as well?  I just heard his work on the new Bill
Frisell Quartet CD on Nonesuch, and enjoyed it immensely.  Kang played as
part of the Cobra performance that came through Chicago a couple of years
ago, and I have been waiting for some recordings of his work ever since.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: zorn/judaism
Date: 21 Apr 1996 12:27:39 -0400

Egg1000 wrote:
>Has anybody picked up the colored vinyl ep "Live at the Pecci Museum?"  I
>could have the exact title mistaken, but it is something to that effect, and
>it is a live recording from 1995, and is issued as a limited edition.  I'm
>wondering if it is a recording of him performing solo, with a band (which
>band?), or what not.  It is quite affordable ($9 or so), but I would like to
>know what it contains before ordering one.

Where did you see this?  What label is it on?

>When is the new batch of Tzadik releases scheduled to arrive?
I've got Film Music 2 and Guide to Strategy on order from CDNow.  They said
they will be released on April 30th.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Locus Solus Japanese
Date: 21 Apr 1996 12:34:07 -0400

I saw a listing for a Japanese release of Locus Solus.  Is this different
from Tzadik 7303?

Barry Gilbert


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From: [e-mail] (Stefan Gustafsson)
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Date: 21 Apr 1996 11:04:08 -0700

jim thirwell does mtv jingles?

do you, matt (who wrote about his jingle
making) or anybody else, know what he's
doing right now.

i know he released a cd called gash a
while ago but i haven't heard anything
since then.

thanks

--
Stefan Gustafsson


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From: [e-mail] (Stefan Gustafsson)
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Date: 21 Apr 1996 11:08:11 -0700

will an alternative to
mtv ever happen?

something not so tightly
connected to the music
industry.

or actually, i don't
really know. i'm just
assuming. how tightly
connected to the music
industry is mtv?

anybody have an idea???

zegge

--
Stefan Gustafsson


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Date: 21 Apr 1996 14:50:00 -0400

Foetus is currently on tour supporting Ministry (headliner) and The Young
Gods


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Locus Solus Japanese
Date: 21 Apr 1996 13:08:37 -0700


On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:34:07 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> I saw a listing for a Japanese release of Locus Solus.  Is this different
> from Tzadik 7303?

It is that same with the exception of the price.

    Patrice.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Colorado
Date: 21 Apr 1996 20:36:54 -0400

Anyone on this list live in Colorado?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Last Exit
Date: 22 Apr 1996 06:41:33 -0400

I just picked up Last Exit "From The Board". Anybody have any info on this?
Its a 1995 release on Enemy. Some good stuff...The liner notes weren't
helpful.


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Live at the Pecci Museum
Date: 22 Apr 1996 14:53:55 +0200 (METDST)

[e-mail] said something like:

> Has anybody picked up the colored vinyl ep "Live at the Pecci Museum?"  I
> could have the exact title mistaken, but it is something to that effect, and
> it is a live recording from 1995, and is issued as a limited edition.  I'm
> wondering if it is a recording of him performing solo, with a band (which
> band?), or what not.  It is quite affordable ($9 or so), but I would like to
> know what it contains before ordering one.

I guess you're thinking about this one: (Anybody knows where I can buy it?)

******************************************************************************
                    DAVE DOUGLAS/JOHN ZORN/YAMATSUKA EYE

LINE-UP:  DAVE DOUGLAS--Trumpet; JOHN ZORN--Alto sax; YAMATSUKA EYE **-Vocals

_Live at Pecci Museum (Italy), March 7, 1995_ (No label name--DAN 1--7") 1996

Four untitled tracks.

In print.  Pressed on opaque orange vinyl.  Bootleg, most likely.
*****************************************************************************

Jonas


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: New Tzadiks
Date: 22 Apr 1996 09:09:00 PDT

The newest batch of Tzadiks will be in stores tomorrow.
                                              ^^^^^^^^
These are:
1. Zorn: Classic Guide to Strategy (excellent)
2. Zorn: Filmworks II (ditto)
3. Elliott Sharp: Xenocodex (noisy!)
4. Eyvind Kang: 7 NADEs (absolutely AMAZING)
5. Li Chin Sung: Past (also noisy, need more time to
    evaluate)
6. Wadada Leo Smith: Tao-Nija (beautiful, chamber music)
7. Zubi Zuva: Jehovah (haven't heard)
8. Mike Patton: Adult Themes for Voice (haven't heard)

Filmworks II, curiously enough, says "Released by
Special Permission from MCA."  Could this have been
meant for Trespass originally?  Patrice?  You mention
that Zorn played on the (quite excellent) Trespass
soundtrack, yet I only remember Ry Cooder, Mark
Isham and Jim Keltner (making some very atypical
improv racket that The Wire even likened to AMM!).

Likely for July release:
TZ 7307 The Parachute Years (3 CDs)

Finally, I'm a newcomer to the list, so forgive me if
this one's already been played out:  I heard a rumor
last year about a 100(!) CD set by Zorn and Eye, to
be issued to Sound Factory.  The discs were to be
packaged on a spool, the way they come from the factory,
and were to be anywhere from a few seconds to 70 minutes
in duration.  Sold by pre-payment only, the story
went.  Anyone know anything about this?

Steve Smith
[e-mail]




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From: philz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Knit Taping
Date: 22 Apr 1996 11:09:35 -0400

>"Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I guess it is Bruce Gallanter. Everybody knows him (and specially the
>musicians). He got a life authorization to tape *EVERY* Zorn shows
>a long time ago :-).

That's my guess as well... Bruce and some of his friends have been taping
Knitting Factory shows for as long as I've known them, and they have a long
standing order that tape *trading* is alright as long as no one is selling
any of the tapes.  Of course there's no way to enforce this once a tape has
traded, but I've never heard of anyone interested in this music actually
selling taped material.  Really we're talking about an ethic based on the
love of this amazing music, and the sharing of that love.

In fact I had a long discussion one night with Bruce's friend Len, another
Knit taper, who was very worried about trading with someone he didn't know
because he was afraid that this guy would sell the tapes after trading with
him.  In the end he didn't trade with him, even though he had some music
that Len wanted to hear, because of that concern.

philz



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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Last Exit
Date: 22 Apr 1996 08:14:54 -0700


    Hi,

On Mon, 22 Apr 1996 06:41:33 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> I just picked up Last Exit "From The Board". Anybody have any info on this?
> Its a 1995 release on Enemy. Some good stuff...The liner notes weren't
> helpful.

Could you send me the detailed description of this record?

    Thanks,

    Patrice.


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From: Sean Terwilliger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Last Exit
Date: 22 Apr 1996 12:26:34 -0700

Patrice L. Roussel wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 1996 06:41:33 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > I just picked up Last Exit "From The Board". Anybody have any info on this?
> > Its a 1995 release on Enemy. Some good stuff...The liner notes weren't
> > helpful.
>
> Could you send me the detailed description of this record?
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Patrice.

Funny, I was going to respond to the first post with some guesses but
figured "Patrice will do it!"

My understanding of this disc id that it's a compilation of various LE
live stuff. Thats all I know.

-Sean


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn & Walter Hill
Date: 22 Apr 1996 11:48:53 -0700


On Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:57:56 -0700  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> At 5:56 PM 4/19/96, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:
>
> >Zorn plays on it. Seems to me like a good reason to be thanked. Or are you
> >thinking about something else?
>
> Where?  He isn't on the score or soundtrack CDs and I don't remember
> hearing him on the movie, which I saw twice.

Sorry, I got confused. I thought you were talking of:


037 - TRESSPASS: Ned Rothenberg

    6/ Kakeai (A suite in three parts)          (Rothenberg)            10:00

    Recorded July 30 and August 19, 1985 at Radio City Studios, New York City

  Ned Rothenberg: alto; John Zorn: alto.

    1986 - Lumina Records (USA), L011 (LP)


I


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Ooops!
Date: 22 Apr 1996 14:23:23 PDT

One mistake in my earlier posting:

All the new Tzadiks are in stores tomorrow EXCEPT
Filmworks 2.  The release date for that is May 7,
due to delays at the factory.

Sorry to get your hopes up prematurely.  I suck.

Steve



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From: [e-mail] (John Shiurba)
Subject: Re: Last Exit
Date: 22 Apr 1996 21:42:18 +0000

patrice:

>On Mon, 22 Apr 1996 06:41:33 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> I just picked up Last Exit "From The Board". Anybody have any info =
on this?
>> Its a 1995 release on Enemy. Some good stuff...The liner notes =
weren't
>> helpful.

>Could you send me the detailed description of this record?

i don't have this one, but i remember noting that it was the same =
material as "cassette recordings 87" also released on enemy.


shiurba


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From: Bob Boster <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ikue Mori
Date: 22 Apr 1996 08:47:48 +48000



WOndering if anyone (Patrice?) has a complete Ikue Mori discography
(pref. including the DNA releases) that I could beg for a copy of?
Anyone else catch her thing at Mills recently?  Thoughts?

Bob Boster
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Live at the Pecci Museum
Date: 22 Apr 1996 12:05:28 -0400

That would seem to be the one... the lineup sounds amazing.  I've seen it
listed twice in the Relapse mailorder catalogue (which happens to be quite
dependable).  Every so often, a truly incredible recording will show up in
their listings (which generally focus on death metal and extreme hard core),
such as the solo CD by Tatsuya Yoshida that I picked up from them a while ago
called "Bass, Drums, Guitar, Voice," a CD which I have yet to see offered
anywhere else.  Check them out...


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From: "James A. Ross" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New Tzadiks
Date: 23 Apr 1996 09:36:21 -0500 (CDT)

I'm kind of new in the area of this style of music and I'm having a
really hard time finding cd's in the local stores...what is the easiest
way to come across Tzadik stuff?
J-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Zorn on MTV
Date: 24 Apr 1996 15:08:47 -0400

Well, to tell you the bizarre truth, I have seen a Naked City VIDEO on MTV!
  Yes, it was Batman, and yes it was way back when that album was NEW.   They
played it late night on their "alternative" show 120 Minutes.  The video was
compromised almost solely of black and white film of gangster scenes,
including footage of the dead man on the cover of the Naked City album from
different angles.   Naked City on MTV, hard to believe but true.   I think
it's safe to say they only played it once.   Music history, as the world
sleeps.


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zorn/Patton
Date: 25 Apr 1996 16:07:27 +0200 (METDST)

Did anybody go see the Zorn/Mike Patton show? How was it compared to a
Zorn/Eye show?


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Masada titles
Date: 25 Apr 1996 16:06:44 +0200 (METDST)

A few weeks ago somebody emailed me about translations of the Masada titles.
Could you please email me again? I lost your address.

Jonas



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mike Patton Question
Date: 26 Apr 1996 16:09:23 -0400

I got ADult Themes for Voice today, and it has a little bio on Mike and says
" Mike hasworked with various ensembles and composers such as Mr. Bungle,
Kronos Quartet, Faith No More, Bob Ostertag, Arto Lindsay, Bil Laswell,
Boo-Yaa Tribe, Rova Saxophone Quartet, David Shea, Sepultura and John Zorn."
I was wondering about the many projects and what was available on CD and how
to get it all (the ones that aren't the obvious). If anyone knows, please
post here and/or e-mail myself. Thanks.


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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mike Patton cd
Date: 28 Apr 1996 17:19:44 +0200 (METDST)

How is the Mike Patton solo cd? Is there any overdubs or effects?


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From: Teemu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Mike Patton cd
Date: 28 Apr 1996 18:29:38 +0200 (GMT+0200)

On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Torsten Nielsen wrote:

> How is the Mike Patton solo cd? Is there any overdubs or effects?

Hey wait! What Mike Patton solo CD?

Tell me more!

teemu


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From: john shiurba <[e-mail]>
Subject: classic guides
Date: 28 Apr 1996 14:06:05 +0000

i saw that the reissue of 'classic guide to strategy 1 & 2' is out.
has anyone got it, and can you tell me what they have cut out to make
it fit on one cd?


shiurba


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: classic guides
Date: 28 Apr 1996 18:15:58 -0400

I've never seen (or heard) the original, so I can't say what might be missing
from the original release, but the track listing on the reissue is as
follows...
1. Part One 19:40
2. Part Two (Cartoon Music) 19:43
3. Aoyama Michi 11:10
4. Enoken 3:20
5. Katsumi Shigeru 6:28
6. Kondo Toshinori 5:55
7. Togawa Jun 8:48
8. Mori Ikue 2:28
...nothing is mentioned in the liner notes about missing tracks, but I would
be interested to know what, if anything, was actually left off.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Mike Patton cd
Date: 28 Apr 1996 22:29:10 GMT

On Sun, Apr 28, 1996 12.00.00 am, Torsten Nielsen wrote:

>How is the Mike Patton solo cd? Is there any overdubs or effects?

godhead.  it apparently was recorded in different hotel rooms around the
world and yes, there are overdubs and effects...basically, the thing is a
lot of fun, if that's ok to say on this list--you might need to already
have an affinity for patton- if you're not already into him, you may hate
it.  for instance, i mentioned the album to my roommate, who thinks "faith
no more" when you say "mike patton" and even though i tried to tell him it
was great, he wasn't even into hearing it...but he's an extreme case:)

i don't know what he used for the effects,  i don't have the album, another
friend does.  just wanted to let you know that it's great...i lack the
vocabulary and musical education to effecctively critique or even describe
the album, but thre are folks on here that can, and i'm hoping they'll
speak up as well.

any upcoming zorn for the west coast (more specifically sf) ?  not that i
could afford it...

ciao,
chowderhead



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: classic guides
Date: 28 Apr 1996 22:55:19 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-28 18:22:17 EDT, you write:

>I've never seen (or heard) the original, so I can't say what might be
missing
>from the original release, but the track listing on the reissue is as
>follows...
>1. Part One 19:40
>2. Part Two (Cartoon Music) 19:43
>3. Aoyama Michi 11:10
>4. Enoken 3:20
>5. Katsumi Shigeru 6:28
>6. Kondo Toshinori 5:55
>7. Togawa Jun 8:48
>8. Mori Ikue 2:28
>...nothing is mentioned in the liner notes about missing tracks, but I would
>be interested to know what, if anything, was actually left off.

That's the complete list of original tracks.  The first two were from Vol 1.
 The rest are from Vol 2, named for Asian musicians/artists he's known.  Th
original of Vol 2 has their pictures on the back.

Where did you get your copy?  I've got mine on order from CDNow and expect
it's arrival (along with Filmwork 2) within a week.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: New Jon Rose?
Date: 28 Apr 1996 23:00:34 -0400

Has anyone heard the new Jon Rose release, _Eine Violine Fur Valentine_?
 It's quite twisted! :-)  The lyrics are all in German, but they're
translated in the liner notes.  I haven't heard much else of his before; just
a little of an early release with just about everyone from downtown NY during
the mid-80's.  If I'm not mistaken, he's also played a bit with E.
Chadbourne.  Any suggestions regarding further exploration of his recordings?



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From: john shiurba <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: classic guides
Date: 28 Apr 1996 23:12:28 +0000

> I've never seen (or heard) the original, so I can't say what might be missing
> from the original release, but the track listing on the reissue is as
> follows...
> 1. Part One 19:40
> 2. Part Two (Cartoon Music) 19:43
> 3. Aoyama Michi 11:10
> 4. Enoken 3:20
> 5. Katsumi Shigeru 6:28
> 6. Kondo Toshinori 5:55
> 7. Togawa Jun 8:48
> 8. Mori Ikue 2:28
> ...nothing is mentioned in the liner notes about missing tracks, but I would
> be interested to know what, if anything, was actually left off.
>
>

thanks for the info.
what's left off is a track from volume two titled "yano akiko" (5:20)

shiurba


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: classic guides
Date: 29 Apr 1996 08:29:05 -0700


On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:15:58 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> I've never seen (or heard) the original, so I can't say what might be missing
> from the original release, but the track listing on the reissue is as
> follows...
> 1. Part One 19:40
> 2. Part Two (Cartoon Music) 19:43
> 3. Aoyama Michi 11:10
> 4. Enoken 3:20
> 5. Katsumi Shigeru 6:28
> 6. Kondo Toshinori 5:55
> 7. Togawa Jun 8:48
> 8. Mori Ikue 2:28

One track is missing from the second volume:

    5/ Yano Akiko                               (Zorn)                   5:20

> ...nothing is mentioned in the liner notes about missing tracks, but I would
> be interested to know what, if anything, was actually left off.
>
>


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: classic guides
Date: 29 Apr 1996 08:37:08 -0700


On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:55:19 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 96-04-28 18:22:17 EDT, you write:
>
> >I've never seen (or heard) the original, so I can't say what might be
> missing
> >from the original release, but the track listing on the reissue is as
> >follows...
> >1. Part One 19:40
> >2. Part Two (Cartoon Music) 19:43
> >3. Aoyama Michi 11:10
> >4. Enoken 3:20
> >5. Katsumi Shigeru 6:28
> >6. Kondo Toshinori 5:55
> >7. Togawa Jun 8:48
> >8. Mori Ikue 2:28
> >...nothing is mentioned in the liner notes about missing tracks, but I would
> >be interested to know what, if anything, was actually left off.
>
> That's the complete list of original tracks.  The first two were from Vol 1.
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Close, but not completely.

>  The rest are from Vol 2, named for Asian musicians/artists he's known.  Th
> original of Vol 2 has their pictures on the back.
>
> Where did you get your copy?  I've got mine on order from CDNow and expect
> it's arrival (along with Filmwork 2) within a week.
>
>
>


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From: plantarm <[e-mail]>
Subject: opinions
Date: 29 Apr 1996 11:47:46 -0500 (EST)

hi, i'm looking for opinions on a few recordings.  i figured this might
be a good list to ask...

painkiller "guts of a virgin"
melt banana- anything by them
ruins- their new one, i can't spell the title from memory!
peter brotzmann "dare devil" and "machine gun"

if you know these recordings, please expound in as much detail as you have
time for.

eric M.


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: opinions
Date: 29 Apr 1996 10:11:43 -0700


On Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:47:46 -0500 (EST)  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> hi, i'm looking for opinions on a few recordings.  i figured this might
> be a good list to ask...
>
> painkiller "guts of a virgin"
> melt banana- anything by them

There is not too much by them. One CD on a US label (Touch and Go?). They
play on CHIPFARM, a Hoppy Kamiyama project. They are (like any Japanese
band) on numerious compilations. Their US CD is fairly faithful to their
live performance.

> ruins- their new one, i can't spell the title from memory!

Get SAISORO, their "duo" with Derek Bailey (on Tzadik). It is not rock, it
is not improv, it is something between. One of my favorite records of last
year (one from which I did not expect anything). This collaboration is
just incredible. Who could have imagine that Ruins and Bailey could have
anything to say to each others? Zorn thought so; he was right beyond our
wildest expections.

> peter brotzmann "dare devil" and "machine gun"
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^

A must! The equivalent of KIND OF BLUE for the modern jazz adventurer :-).
An incredible record!!! One of my all time favorites. I used to play it a lot;
I still do. And the CD reissue has alternate takes! You imagine that, alternate
takes of Machine Gun!!! Could you belive the producer saying: "Hum... I think it
was a little bit wimpy; could you play it again with more energy?".

> if you know these recordings, please expound in as much detail as you have
> time for.
>
> eric M.
>
>


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From: Marcin Gokieli <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Trade offer
Date: 29 Apr 1996 19:20:58 CET

Hello,
Is somebody intrested in getting Wayne Horvitz&pigpen 'Live in Poland' cd? I wo
uld volountery trade it for some masada (except the second) or Dr.Nerve, or bar
rondown (I've seen a GREAT show by them in Bydgoszcz, Poland), or something equ
ally interesting. It's an semi - official release - it was sold with a jazz mag
azine from here. It's long- about 70 minutes. Personnaly, i prefer the studio
versions the tunes (not all of them- 'miss ann' is much better live). There' s
also a number of good polish bands- if anybody is interested, i could tape a co
mpilation( for exaple a great live cd of a band called 'Milosc' with Lester Bow
ie)
As the list in a kind of 'morals-ethics' discussion, i'd like to mention that m
y offer is not ethicaly correct. I pay only few $ for the cd. But i think that
compared to the sums of money we earn, it's Ok- remeber that we use to get
300$ a month here and a Zorn CD costs nearly 20$ here(if you can find it).
And please, remember that not everybody on the list is from New York. You know,
 when i read stuff like 'masada with frisell was nothing special', when i can
 see each of these guys every two years, it's not a good joke. ;-)
Keep on hunting for the snark,
Marcin Gokieli
Ps. I adressed my offer to Patrice, as we had a discussion about Locus Solus, a
nd , of course, he has that album. (thanks for responding, Patrice!)


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: anybody knows the magazine CARBON 14?
Date: 29 Apr 1996 10:42:06 -0700


    I just got a copy of the magazine CARBON 14 (issue #7, with an
interview of Elliott Sharp and a 7" with Wayne Horvitz, Zeena Parkins,
William Hooker, etc). Two questions:

    1/ when was this issue released?
    2/ who else has appeared in the previous issues/7" (I also
       have the issue #4)?

    Thanks,

    Patrice.


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From: Marcin Gokieli <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Downtown scene & King Crimson
Date: 29 Apr 1996 19:47:35 CET

 Hello,
 There is one thing i cannot understand. Why is there no connection (at least,
i don't know of any) between Robert Fripp and Zorn, Frisell etc.? what is more
strange (for me)is that there is practically no talk about RF&kc here, and not
a single word on Zorn etc. on Elephant talk, the crimso list.
Don't you find it strange? Does everybody here leaves a party when he hears, fo
r example , 'discipline'(which is, btw my favourite record)? I can't beleive it
!
Imagine a Fripp-Frisell Band!!!
Keep on Hunting for the Snark,
Marcin Gokieli


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From: "Allen Huotari" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Trade offer
Date: 29 Apr 1996 11:29:56 PST

     well, unless someone else has taken Marcin up on this offer, I'll
     gladly arrange a trade

     Marcin, contact me off the list if the offer is still available

     [e-mail]


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Hello,
Is somebody intrested in getting Wayne Horvitz&pigpen 'Live in Poland' cd? I wo
uld volountery trade it for some masada (except the second) or Dr.Nerve, or bar
rondown (I've seen a GREAT show by them in Bydgoszcz, Poland), or something equ
ally interesting. It's an semi - official release - it was sold with a jazz mag
azine from here. It's long- about 70 minutes. Personnaly, i prefer the studio
versions the tunes (not all of them- 'miss ann' is much better live). There' s
also a number of good polish bands- if anybody is interested, i could tape a co
mpilation( for exaple a great live cd of a band called 'Milosc' with Lester Bow
ie)
As the list in a kind of 'morals-ethics' discussion, i'd like to mention that m
y offer is not ethicaly correct. I pay only few $ for the cd. But i think that
compared to the sums of money we earn, it's Ok- remeber that we use to get
300$ a month here and a Zorn CD costs nearly 20$ here(if you can find it).
And please, remember that not everybody on the list is from New York. You know,
 when i read stuff like 'masada with frisell was nothing special', when i can
 see each of these guys every two years, it's not a good joke. ;-)
Keep on hunting for the snark,
Marcin Gokieli
Ps. I adressed my offer to Patrice, as we had a discussion about Locus Solus, a
nd , of course, he has that album. (thanks for responding, Patrice!)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Trade offer & Opinions...
Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:06:27 -0400

The Pigpen "Live In Poland" CD has been reissued here in the States... before
its reissue, I had been searching quite extensively for it, so it is too bad
that we did not cross paths earlier.  I actually prefer the live versions
over the studio versions of their compositions...
Brotzmann's "Machine Gun" is absolutely essential, as it documents possibly
the finest hour in the birth of the current European avant garde jazz mind
set (which has since made its presence felt in any quality avant garde
music)... likening it to "Kind Of Blue" makes sense, as would likening it to
"Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band," or something else to that effect.
 One of the finest recordings of all time, in terms of its every aspect...
the compositions, the musicians, the emotion, the artistry... don't pass on
"Machine Gun" the next time that you have the chance to pick it up.
Ruins, to my ears at least, have shown themselves capable of sheer brilliance
as well... I regard their "Burning Stone" Shimmy Disc recording to be
essential listening as well.  Their Tzadik sessions with Bailey on "Saisoro"
are amazing, as were the sessions with a Ruins side project (Yoshida and
Masuda plus keys, guitar, and female vocals) called Hundred Sights Of Koenji
(which were released last year on God Mountain).  I pick up anything that
Yoshida is involved with (a steadily growing and already expansive
collection), and can honestly say that all of his discs are of high quality,
and can only be judged in reference to one another.  The one caveat would be
for the recently released Tzadik CD "Jehova" by a Yoshida vocal trio called
Zubi Zuva, which is truthfuly the first project of his that is less than
sterling, and is something that I will probably not be spinning in the CD
player again anytime soon.  It doesn't matter though, as I'm still not
through ingesting the other most recent additions to the Yoshida collection,
which come in the form of his recorded output (three CD's worth) with the
band YBO2.
Painkiller are a pretty amazing bunch, in all of their various guises.  Their
first three, "Guts Of A Virgin," "Buried Secrets," and "Rituals" are all
hefty doses of extreme terror jazz, with pounding bass, super heavy drums,
and shrieking sax.  Their most recent triple disc endeavor "Burial Ground"
reveals a different side in that they employ many aspects of ambient and dub
into their style, tone down on the harshness, and really just jam.  The third
disc of the set, a live recording, takes the new turn one step further by
adding some rumble and nastiness to the ambient realms.  Excellent stuff, all
of it.  Start with the live "Rituals" or the triplr disc "Burial Ground" (and
be sure not to cheat yourself out of disc three by purchasing the American
version).


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From: john shiurba <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: opinions
Date: 29 Apr 1996 14:45:09 +0000

patrice:

> > ruins- their new one, i can't spell the title from memory!
>
> Get SAISORO, their "duo" with Derek Bailey (on Tzadik). It is not rock, it
> is not improv, it is something between. One of my favorite records of last
> year (one from which I did not expect anything). This collaboration is
> just incredible. Who could have imagine that Ruins and Bailey could have
> anything to say to each others? Zorn thought so; he was right beyond our
> wildest expections.
>

i'll second this recommendation, this combo works extremely well, and i was (like
patrice) a bit dubious before hearing it.

> > peter brotzmann "dare devil" and "machine gun"
>                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> A must! The equivalent of KIND OF BLUE for the modern jazz adventurer :-).
> An incredible record!!! One of my all time favorites.

i'll second this sentiment, brotzmann's "machine gun" is certainly one of the all
time classics. go get it, and turn the stereo up very loud. (if your neighbors
are at all sane they'll probably call the police).


shiurba


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From: Bob Boster <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ikue Mori again
Date: 29 Apr 1996 17:19:26 +48000


I posted on this a while back to no response, what's up with y'all?
Tired of spitting out useful knowledge on demand...

I'm looking for an Ikue Mori discography (with DNA stuff too, if
possible).  At the very least could someone mail me the title of her
Tzadik release from last year?

Thanks.

Bob
[e-mail]


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Ikue Mori again
Date: 29 Apr 1996 17:27:14 -0700


On Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:19:26 +48000  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> I posted on this a while back to no response, what's up with y'all?
> Tired of spitting out useful knowledge on demand...



  This is the first version of the discography of Ikue Mori.

  Again, I would really appreciate any comments, corrections and extra infor-
mation which could improve the quality of this discography. Specifically, if
people could send me information and/or corrections on:

  * missing records and tapes,
  * incorrect references (on dates, musicians, etc),
  * additional references (for vinyl, CD, or different pressings);

for example, I am still looking for information on the following records:

  * I GUESS I JUST WASN'T MADE FOR THESE TIMES: David Garland (1993 - Music-
    Scene (Japon), ??? (CD)
  * LES FLEURS DE LEO: M.F. Cote/Bruire (???? - Ambiances Magnetiques, ???)

    Patrice Roussel ([e-mail]).


               ---------------------------------
               |    DISCOGRAPHY OF IKUE MORI   |
               |    VERSION 1.0 - April 1996   |
               |-------------------------------|
               | by Patrice Roussel            |
               | ([e-mail])   |
               | 725 NW Flanders #306          |
               | Portland, OR 97209 (USA)      |
               ---------------------------------



With special thanks to:

Henry Weld                      [e-mail]
Mark Milano                     [e-mail]
Michael W. Woodring             [e-mail]
Stephane Vuilleumier            [e-mail]
David Mandl            [e-mail]

for sending me extra material and giving prompt answers to my questions, and
specially to Jacques Debout for his article on Ikue Mori published in the
French magazine REVUE & CORRIGEE (No. 26, December 1995), where Ikue Mori
answers questions concerning 21 records from her discography.


  Records and tapes have been listed by chronological order for edition (and
not recording). The following records and tapes are listed:

  * records and tapes by Ikue Mori and/or her bands,
  * records and tapes featuring Ikue Mori,
  * records containing composition(s) by Ikue Mori,
  * records containing arrangment(s) by Ikue Mori;

the following ones are not listed (I think this deserves a special section):

  * records (co)produced by Ikue Mori,
  * records having Ikue Mori as a technical or musical consultant,
  * records with liner notes by Ikue Mori;

you won't find anything on extra material like (maybe in the near future ?):

  * books,
  * magazines,
  * interviews,
  * concerts,
  * videos.

Some abbreviations:

Album           Full album release, in one or more of the formats below:
  LP            12" vinyl long-player (33 1/3 RPM)
  CD            Compact (digital) disc
  CT            Cassette tape
  DAT           DAT, digital audio tape
  DCC           Digital compact cassette tape
  MD            MiniDisc, CD-like optical disc

Single          Single release, usually from an album, in one or more of
        the formats below:
  7"            7" 45 RPM vinyl
  10"           10" 45 RPM vinyl
  12"           12" 45 RPM vinyl
  EP            Extended play single or mini-album, usually 33 1/3 RPM
  CD-3          CD-3, 3" (7 cm) CD single
  CD-5          5" (12 cm) CD single
  CS            Cassette single
  Flexi         Flexi-disc, usually included with a magazine

|                                 DISCOGRAPHY                                |


001 - DNA

    1/ You & You                                (DNA)
    2/ Little Ants                              (DNA)

  Arto Lindsay; Robin Crutchfield; Ikue M.

    1978 - Lust/Unlust Music, 11-CAN-234 (7")


002 - NO NEW YORK: various artist

  This record features Contorsions, Teenage Jesus And The Jerks, Mars, DNA.

  Ikue Mori plays on four tracks with DNA:

    13/ Egomaniac's Kiss                        (Crutchfield, Lindsay)   2:08
    14/ Lionel                                  (Crutchfield, Lindsay)   2:04
    15/ Not Moving                              (Crutchfield, Lindsay)   2:35
    16/ Size                                    (Crutchfield, Lindsay)   2:10

    Recorded at Big Apple Studio in New York City Spring 1978

  Robin Crutchfield: organ, vocal; Ikue Ile: drums; Arto Lindsay: guitar, vo-
  cals.

    1978 - Antilles, AN 7067 (LP)


003 - JOHN GAVANTI: Mars

  Rewrite of Don Giovanni by Sumner Crane. No track titles but Arto is credi-
  ted (as Arlindo) with percussion on The Samba which is sort of the third
  'section' on side 1.

    Recorded at Sear Sound, NYC

  Sumner Crane: vocals, guitar, piano, percussion; Don Burg: bass clarinet;
  Mark Cunningham: horns; Ikue Mori: strings, percussion; Arlindo: percussion
  on The Samba; Dantas Lins: percussion on The Samba.

    1980 - Hyrax, HY101 (LP)


004 - A TASTE OF DNA: DNA

    1/ New Fast                                 (DNA)                    1:13
    2/ 5:30                                     (DNA)                    1:05
    3/ Blonde Red Head                          (DNA)                    1:55
    4/ 32123                                    (DNA)                    0:53
    5/ New New                                  (DNA)                    2:49
    6/ Lying On The Sofa Of Life                (DNA)                    1:53

    Recorded at Vanguard Studios N.Y.C. 1980

  Ikue Mori: drums; Tim Wright: bass, guitar; Arto Lindsay: guitar & vocals.

    1981 - American Clave, AMCL 1003EP (12")
    ???? - Rough Trade, RT086 (7")
    ???? - Rough Trade, RT086 (12")


005 - THE FRUIT OF THE ORIGINAL SIN: various artists

  This record features Peter Gordon, The French Impressionists, The Durutti
  Column, Soft Verdict, Cecile Bruynoghe, Marine (LP only), Paul Haig (LP
  only), 323 (LP only), The Swamp Children (LP only), DNA, Rhine River III
  (LP only), Richard Jobson (LP only), Marguerite Duras, The Names, Orange
  Juice, Thick Pigeon (LP only), Arthur Russell, Winston Tong, W.S.
  Burroughs.

  Ikue Mori plays on four tracks, three with DNA:

    12/ Taking Kid To School
    13/ Cop Buys A Donut
    14/ Delivering The Good

  Arto Lindsay: guitar, vocals; Tim Wright: bass; Ikue Mori: drums.

  and one with Thick Pigeon:

    20/ Sudan

  Miranda: all; Ikue Mori: drums; Carter: Steinway piano; Arthur Russel:
  cello.

    1981 - Les Disques Du Crepuscule, twi 035 (2xLP)
    1987 - Interphon, IPCD 72002 (CD)

  Note: (20) is not available on the CD pressing.


006 - I FRATELLI HI-FI: Hi-Fi Bros

    1/ Sixti's'n'Kisses
    2/ Magic Moment
    3/ Stranger in the Night
    4/ Goin' Out of My Head

    Produced by Arto Lindsay
    Recorded at Umbi Studio, Modena (Italy)

  Fabio Hi-Fi: voice, electronics; Marco Hi-Fi: guitar, backing vocal; Gianni
  Hi-Fi: drums; Arto Lindsay (3): guitar; Ikue Mori (1): drums.

    1981 - Italian Records (Italy), EXIT M 503 (12")


007 - THICK PIGEON

    1/ Dog

  ???; Ikue Mori: backing vocals.

    1983 (?) - Les Disques du Crepuscule (Belgium), TWI 108 (7")


008 - LOCUS SOLUS: John Zorn

    23/ Heike Cipher Mystery                                             1:40
    24/ Jedi Mind Trick                                                  1:02
    25/ Mysterious Island                                                2:03
    James Bond Trilogy
      26/ You Only Live Twice, Mr. Bond                                  1:53
      27/ When Arrows Meet                                               1:35
      28/ Never Say Never Again                                          1:38
    29/ Sign Of The Four                                                 2:04
    30/ Locus Solus (parts 1 & 2)                                        2:06

    Recorded May 1983 at OAO Studio, Brooklyn, NY by Martin Bisi

  Wayne Horvitz: organ, electronics; Ikue Mori: drums; John Zorn: alto, sopra-
  no, clarinets, game calls.

    1983 - Rift, Rift 007 (2xLP)
    1991 - Eva/Wave (Japan), WWCX 2035 (CD)
    1995 - Tzadik (USA), TZ 7303 (CD)
    1995 - Evva (Japan), ???? (CD)


009 - MERRY CHRISTMAS: various artists

  This sampler features tracks by Wim Mertens/Soft Verdict, Thick Pigeon, The
  Arcadians, Current 93, Pleasure Ground.

  Ikue Mori may be playing/singing on the track by Thick Pigeon:

    2/ Handel's Messiah / Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend              3:20

  Ikue Mori: vocals (???), drum machines (?).

    1984 - Les Disques du Crepuscule (Belgium), twi 450 12" (45/33 rpm)


010 - THE IMPROVISORS: various artists

  This tape from Tellus (The Audio Cassette Magazine) contains improvisions
  featuring Chris Cochrane, Anthony Coleman, Carol Emanuel, Tom Cora, Bill
  Frisell, Bobby Previte, Lindsey Cooper, Fred Frith, Irene Schweitzer,
  Christian Marclay, Bill Horvitz, David Weinstein, Denman Maroney, Samm
  Bennett, Jim Staley, Ikue Mori, John Zorn.

    8/ no title                                                          7:42

    Recorded during the Stephanie and Irving Stone Festival of Improvisors at
    the Roulette, N.Y.C. on November 8, 9 and 10 1985

  Ikue Mori: drums; John Zorn: reeds, game calls; Lindsay Cooper: sax, elec-
  tric bassoon; Fred Frith: electric guitar, etc.

    1986 - Tellus (USA), Tellus #15 (CT)


011 - ISLAND OF SANITY: New Music From New York City

  This record features music by David Linton, Mofungo, Christian Marclay, Fish
  And Roses, Details At Eleven, Skeleton Crew, Mark Dery, Charles K. Noyes,
  Martin Bisi, Locus Solus, The President, The Ordinaires, David Fulton, David
  Garland, Bump, Chris Vine, Carbon, Bosho, The Scene Is Now, H/M/D, Toy
  Killers, Robert Previte.

  Ikue Mori plays on one track with Locus Solus:

    10/ Wrap Backwards And The Usual Snowflake/Beda Fomm                 4:14

    Recorded at B.C Studio

  John Zorn: alto; Christian Marclay: turntables; Peter Blegvad: vocals; Wayne
  Horvitz: keyboards; Ikue Mori: drums.

    1987 - No Man's Land (Germany), nml 8707d (2xLP)
    1991 - No Man's Land (Germany), nml 8707cd (CD)

  Note: titles by Martin Bisi, The President, The Ordinaires and Toy Killers
  are not available on the CD.


012 - SOMETHING OUT THERE: Zeena Parkins

    1/ Firebrat                                 (Meneses, Parkins)       2:58
    2/ Night Light                              (Mori, Parkins)          2:57
    3/ Without Words                            (Mori, Parkins, Cora)    2:19
    4/ Little Hip Haw                           (Parkins)                2:36
    5/ Mother Tongue                            (Marclay, Parkins)       2:08
    6/ Cornered                                 (Meneses, Parkins)       3:32
    7/ Southern Exposure                        (Bennett, Parkins, Cora) 3:51
    8/ Incident In A Department Store           (Marclay, Parkins)       3:00
    9/ Flavor Of Green Tea Over Rice            (Parkins)                3:54
    10/ Left-Handed Walk                        (Mori, Parkins, Cora)    2:24
    11/ The World As I Found It                 (Meneses, Parkins)       3:03
    12/ Fly Loo                                 (Mori, Parkins)          2:09
    13/ Sidereal Messenger                      (Cora, Parkins)          3:11
    14/ Appointment In Samarkind                (Horvitz, Parkins)       3:03

    Recorded and mixed at Noise New York by Tom Cora, February 1986-January
    1987
    (3,10) recorded live at Roulette

    Produced by Tom Cora and Zeena Parkins

  Zeena Parkins: electric and acoustic harps; Jim Meneses (1,6,11): drums;
  Ikue Mori (2,3,10,12): drum machine, drums; Tom Cora (3,10,13): live sampl-
  ing, drums, indigniti; Christian Marclay (5,8): turntables; Samm Bennett
  (7): electric and acoustic percussions; Wayne Horvitz (14): DX100, DX7,
  RX11.

    1987 - No Man's Land (Germany), nml 8712 (LP)


013 - MUMBO JUMBO: Jim Staley

    1/ untitled                                                          5:30
    2/ untitled                                                          2:40
    3/ untitled                                                          5:30
    4/ untitled                                                          7:56

    Recorded at Battery Sound, New York City on June 18, 1986
    Produced by Jim Staley

  Wayne Horvitz: piano, DX-7, RX-11 drum machine; Elliott Sharp: double-neck
  guitar/bass, soprano saxophone; Jim Staley: trombone.

    5/ untitled                                                          2:00
    6/ untitled                                                          4:39
    7/ untitled                                                          3:33
    8/ untitled                                                          3:58
    9/ untitled                                                          4:20
    10/ untitled                                                         4:15

    Recorded at Radio City Studio, New York City on July 13, 1986
    Produced by Jim Staley

  Shelley Hirsch: voice; Samm Bennett: drums, percussion, electronic percus-
  sion; Jim Staley: trombone.

    11/ untitled                                                         4:20
    12/ untitled                                                         1:00
    13/ untitled                                                         3:32
    14/ untitled                                                         4:38
    15/ untitled                                                         2:03
    16/ untitled                                                         4:33
    17/ untitled                                                         4:31
    18/ untitled                                                         0:40

    Recorded at Radio City Studio, New York City on August 23, 1986
    Produced by Jim Staley and Fred Frith

  Bill Frisell: guitar; Ikue Mori: drums, drum machine; Jim Staley: trombone.

    19/ untitled                                                         6:00
    20/ untitled                                                         4:45
    21/ untitled                                                         5:48
    22/ untitled                                                         4:20

    Recorded at The Ranch, New York City on November 3, 1986
    Produced by Jim Staley

  John Zorn: alto; Fred Frith: electric and acoustic guitars, vocals; Jim
  Staley: trombone.

    1987 - Rift (USA), Rift 12 (2xLP)
    1995 - Einstein Records (USA), Einstein 004 (CD)

  Note: few tracks are missing on the Einstein Records reissue; also, the
  tracks have now a name:

    1/ Spectacular Bid  (Bill Frisell/Ikue Mori)                         4:20
    2/ Secretariat      (Fred Frith/John Zorn)                           4:45
    3/ Sunny's Halo     (Sam Bennett/Shelley Hirsch)                     4:39
    4/ Spend a Buck     (Wayne Horvitz/Elliott Sharp)                    5:30
    5/ Affirmed         (Bill Frisell/Ikue Mori)                         3:32
    6/ Gato del Sol     (Sam Bennett/Shelley Hirsch)                     3:33
    7/ Foolish Pleasure (Bill Frisell/Ikue Mori)                         4:33
    8/ Phesant Colony   (Sam Bennett/Shelley Hirsch)                     4:20
    9/ Bold Forbes      (Bill Frisell/Ikue Mori)                         2:03
    10/ Swale           (Wayne Horvitz/Elliott Sharp)                    7:56
    11/ Cannonade       (Fred Frith/John Zorn)                           6:00
    12/ Genuine Risk    (Sam Bennett/Shelley Hirsch)                     4:15
    13/ Ferdinand       (Wayne Horvitz/Elliott Sharp)                    5:30
    14/ Riva Ridge      (Fred Frith/John Zorn)                           5:48
    15/ Seattle Slew    (Bill Frisell/Ikue Mori)                         4:34


014 - JOYEUX NOEL: various artists

  This record features songs by Laura Davis, Tony Hymas, Ray Warleigh, Mike
  Cooper, Cyril Lefebvre, John Zorn, Benat Achiary, Michel Doneda, The Melody
  Four, Sandra Tavernier, Steve Beresford, Yves Robert, Alan Hacker, Karen
  Evans, British Summer Time Ends, Tabley Bellows, Norma Winstone, Tony Coe,
  Lol Coxhill.

    5/ Blues Noel                               (Zorn)                   5:50

    Recorded at Radio City Studios, New York

  John Zorn: alto; Michael Blair: drums, percussion; Anthony Coleman: piano,
  harpsichord, celeste, organ, narrator; Fred Frith: guitars, bass; Ikue Mori:
  drum machine, vocal; David Weinstein: sampler.

    1987 - Nato (France), Nato 1382 (LP)
    1992 - Nato (France), 53011.2 (CD)


015 - ALL THE BIG MYSTICS: Zero Pop

    9/ Salsadagio                               (M. Howell)              5:07

    Recorded in April 1986 at Demolition Sound

  Bruno Meiller: vocals, saxophones, keyboards; Mark Howell: vocals, guitars;
  Jim Meneses: vocals, drums, percussion; Ikue Mori: drums.

    1988 - RecRec Music (Switzerland), RecRec 21 (LP)
    1992 - RecRec Music (Switzerland), ReCDec 49 (CD)


016 - EXQUISITE CORPSES FROM THE BUNKER

    1/ #1                                                                5:13
    2/ #15                                                               1:01
    3/ #13                                                               2:06
    4/ #7                                                                6:18
    5/ #16                                                               2:04
    6/ #8                                                                1:06
    7/ #10                                                               2:08
    8/ #2                                                                1:06
    9/ #14                                                               1:02
    10/ #11                                                              2:04
    11/ #5                                                               6:07
    12/ #9                                                               1:02
    13/ #17                                                              2:05
    14/ #6                                                               7:03
    15/ #3                                                               0:36

    Recorded live at A.Mica Bunker during Fall 1987 (?)

  Matthew Ostrowski (1,4,6,7,14): analog synthesizer; Paul Hoskin (1,4,8,10,
  11): contrabass clarinet, reeds; Judy Dunaway (1,4,14,15): nylon guitar,
  balloons; George Cartwright (1,3,4,9,11): tenor; Ikue Mori (1,2,4,5,11):
  drum machine; Nancy Campbell (1,4,6,11,13): alto; David Watson (1,4,7,8,14):
  guitar, banjo, drums; Guy Yarden (1,2,4,14): violin; Fred Lonberg-Holm (1,
  3,4,11,15): travicello; Chris Cochrane (1,4,5,9,11): guitar; Doug Seidel
  (1,4,11,12,13): home-made things, guitar; Kiku Wada (1,4,7,8,11): guitar,
  bass; Mike Sappol (1,4,10,11,15): 6-string bass; Bob Lipman (1,4,12,14):
  guitar; Doug Henderson (1,4,7,9,14): voice, peckhorn, bass clarinet, urhorn,
  power tools; Will Sternberg (1,2,4,10,11): bass, guitar; Sue Ann Harkey (1,
  3,4,8,14): guitar; Steve Peters (1,4,5,6,14): violin; Linda Austin (1,4,13,
  14,15): guitar; Leslie Ross (1,2,4,14): bassoon; Evan Gallagher (1,4,10,12,
  14): cornetto, toys, conducting; Jack Wright (1,3,4,9,14): tenor.

    1988 - Heartpunch Music (USA), Heartpunch 007 (LP)


017 - POISON PETAL: Tohban Djan

    1/ Icicle Tango                             (Tohban Djan)            2:45
    2/ Rice & Beans                             (Tohban Djan)            3:42
    3/ Asobi                                    (Tohban Djan, K. Kimoto) 4:03
    4/ The Whispers Beyond                      (Tohban Djan)            3:52
    5/ Shangai Express                          (Tohban Djan, K. Kimoto) 2:53
    6/ 21 Nails                                 (Tohban Djan)            3:27
    7/ Black                                    (Tohban Djan)            2:29
    8/ Lame Talking                             (Tohban Djan)            2:31
    9/ Butterfly                                (Tohban Djan)            1:41
    10/ Song For Deep Water                     (Tohban Djan)            1:40
    11/ No Time                                 (Tohban Djan)            1:02
    12/ Belladonna                              (Tohban Djan, K. Kimoto) 6:42

    Recorded at Sorcerer Studio, New York City in 1988

  Luli Shioi: vocals, bass, melodion, piano; Ikue Mori: drums, DMS, voice.

    ???? - Nato (France), ??? (LP)


018 - RODAN: Sato Michihiro

  This record features Sato Michihiro in different combinations with Bill
  Frisell, Fred Frith, Tenko, Mark Miller, Nicolas Collins, Christian Marclay,
  Steve Coleman, Toh Ban Djan (Ikue Mori, Luli Shioi), Semantics (Elliott
  Sharp, Samm Bennett, Ned Rothenberg), Tom Cora, Joey Baron, Mark Dresser,
  Gerry Hemingway.

    1/ SM/BF/FF                                                          4:21
    2/ SM/T/MM                                                           1:27
    3/ SM/NC/CM                                                          3:33
    4/ SM/SC                                                             3:17
    5/ SM/TOH BAN DJAN                                                   3:43
    6/ SM/NC/CM                                                          2:58
    7/ SM/T/MM                                                           1:17
    8/ SM/SB/ES                                                          1:44
    9/ SM/NC/CM                                                          1:42
    10/ SM/TC                                                            1:48
    11/ SM/SEMANTICS                                                     3:54
    12/ SM/ES                                                            2:02
    13/ SM/BF/FF                                                         4:20
    14/ SM/ES/SB                                                         2:00
    15/ SM/MD/BF/FF                                                      2:32
    16/ SM/T                                                             2:53
    17/ SM/BF/FF                                                         3:50
    18/ SM/SB                                                            2:19
    19/ SM/NC/CM                                                         1:08
    20/ SM/SC/JB                                                         4:20
    21/ SM/FF                                                            2:57
    22/ SM/MD/GH/BF                                                      2:11
    23/ SM/BF/FF                                                         5:30

    Recorded April 11-16, 1988 at Baby Monster Studio N.Y.C.
    Produced by John Zorn

  Sato Michihiro: tsugaru shamisen; Bill Frisell (1,13,15,17,22,23): electric
  guitar; Fred Frith (1,13,15,17,21,23): electric guitar; Tenko (2,7,16): voi-
  ce; Mark Miller (2,7): bass; Nicolas Collins (3,6,9,19): electronics;
  Christian Marclay (3,6,9,19): turntables; Steve Coleman (4,20): alto; Toh
  Ban Djan (5): Ikue Mori (drums, drum machine), Luli Shioi (bass, voice);
  Semantics (11): Elliott Sharp (double neck guitar/bass), Samm Bennett
  (drums),  Ned Rothenberg (alto); Elliott Sharp (8,12,14): double neck gui-
  tar/bass; Samm Bennett (8,14,18): drums; Tom Cora (10): cello; Joey Baron
  (20): drums; Mark Dresser (15,22): bass; Gerry Hemingway (22): drums.

    1989 - Hat Hut (Switzerland), hat Art CD 6015 (CD)

  Note: the tracks have no titles, only abbreviated codes indicating the
  musicians involved.


019 - BANDES ORIGINALES DU JOURNAL SPIROU: various artists

  Contains music by Clive Bell, Steve Beresford, Tony Coe, Mike Cooper, Lol
  Coxhill, Philippe Deschepper, Tohban Djan, Michel Doneda, Max Eastley,
  Stuart Elliott, Tony Hymas, Jean Mereu, Jean-Francois Pauvros, Yves Robert,
  David Weinstein, John Zorn.

  Ikue Mori plays on one track with Tohban Djan:

    11/ Le Chinois A Deux Roues                 (Tohban Djan)            3:58

    Recorded by Jim Goatley at Sorcerer Studio, New York

  Ikue Mori: drums, Alesis drum machine; Luli Shioi: bass, voice, keyboards.

    1990 - Nato (France), Nato ??? (2xLP)
    1990 - Nato (France), Nato CD 1715/1774 (2xCD)
    1992 - Nato (France), 53020.2 (2xCD)


020 - REAL ESTATE "NEW MUSIC FROM NEW YORK": various artists

  This record features music by Zeena Parkins, Machine Gun, Tohban Djan,
  Soldier String Quartet, David Linton, Shelley Hirsch/David Weinstein, Cop
  Shoot Cop, Chunk, David Fulton, Carbon, Lois Vierk Ensemble.

  Ikue Mori plays on two tracks, one with Zeena Parkins:

    1/ T-Square                                 (Parkins)                7:53

    Recorded at Studio 270, Montreal

  Zeena Parkins: electric harp, keyboards, tapes; Ikue Mori: drum machine;
  Chris Cochrane: electric guitar; Guy Yarden: electric violin.

  and one with Tohban Djan:

    3/ Faint Clue                               (Mori, Shioi)            4:59

  Luli Shioi: bass, voice; Ikue Mori: drum machine, background voice.

    Produced by Elliott Sharp

    1990 - Ear-Rational (Germany), ECD 1015 (CD)


021 - GOBBLEDYGOOK (N.Y. Live): Motoharu Yoshizawa

    Recorded at Whithney Museum, June, 27, 1990

  Ikue Mori: percussion; Motoharu Yoshizawa: bass.

    Recorded in Knitting Factory, May, 22, 1990

  Lawrence Butch Morris: cornet; Elliott Sharp: guitar, soprano; Motoharu
  Yoshizawa: bass.

    Recorded at P.S. 122, June, 28, 1990

  Elliott Sharp: guitar, soprano; Motoharu Yoshizawa: bass.

    1990 - P.S.F Records (Japan), PSFD-8 (CD)


022 - LIVE AT THE KNITTING FACTORY, VOLUME TWO: various artists

  This record features Chunk, Gary Lucas, Shelley Hirsch, Ikue Mori, Fred
  Frith, Mark Dresser, Myra Melford, Sonny Sharrock, Christian Marclay, Joey
  Baron, Glen Velez.

  Ikue Mori plays on one track with Fred Frith and Mark Dresser:

    4/ Orbital Inversion

  Ikue Mori: drums, electronic percussion; Fred Frith: guitar; Mark Dresser:
  bass.

    1989 - A&M Records (USA), CD 5276 (CD)
    1991 - Knitting Factory Works (USA), KFWCD-98 (CD)
    ???? - Enemy (Germany), EFA 03512-26 EMCD 112-2 (CD)
    1993 - Knitting Factory Works (USA), KFWCD-12345 (5xCD)

  Note: the 5xCD box contains the five volumes LIVE AT THE KNITTING FACTORY.


023 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR: John Zorn

  Music for a Japanese children's cartoon show.

    Through The Night                           (Zorn)
      15/ Through The Night/And The Day                                  1:29
      16/ Home Sweet Home                                                1:47
      17/ Making Ramen At Midnight                                       0:34
      18/ Scary Moonlight/Next Morning                                   1:53

    Recorded at Shelly Palmer Studio, NYC, January 1989

  Marc Ribot: acoustic & electric guitar, banjo; Carol Emanuel: harp; Jill
  Jaffee: violin, viola; Maxine Neuman: cello; Peter Scherer: keyboards; David
  Hofstra: acoustic & electric bass, tuba; Cyro Baptista: Brazilian percus-
  sion; Ikue Mori: drum machine.

    1989 - CBS/Sony (Japan), 24DH 5291 (CD)


024 - THE WORLDS OF LOVE

    1/ One Of Two                                                        4:18
    2/ Lonely Boy                                                        4:09
    3/ Lovelight                                                         2:10
    4/ Transwarped Love                                                  3:48
    5/ Holding Hands                                                     1:33
    6/ You Belong To Me                                                  2:55
    7/ Gesture                                                           1:48
    8/ Somehow, I'm Sure                                                 5:39
    9/ Carousel d'Amour                                                  4:07
    10/ That Strange Taste Of Love                                       1:45
    11/ In The Sky & Et Meme                                             6:46

    Recorded and mixed by David Garland at King Street Sudio, New York City

  Cinnie Cole: vocals, banjo, synthesizer; David Garland: vocals, synthesizer,
  accordion, theremin, flute, pennywhistle, toy piano; Ikue Mori: vocals,
  hand-played drum machines, percussion.

    1989 - Review Records, rere 152 (LP)


025 - EXQUISITE CORPSES FROM P.S. 122

    1/ Template                                                          6:15
    2/ Burst                                                             0:28
    3/ Pushmepullyou C                                                   1:30
    4/ Ostrich A                                                         2:08
    5/ Crocs & Gators                                                    3:36
    6/ Absent Friends 2                                                  1:48
    7/ Gators & Crocs                                                    3:36
    8/ Ostrich B                                                         2:06
    9/ Flip Flop A                                                       5:25
    10/ Bozoburst A                                                      1:05
    11/ Planarian Worm                                                   7:05
    12/ Pushmepullyou A                                                  1:39
    13/ After The Tone                                                   4:10
    14/ Pushmepullyou B                                                  3:13
    15/ Flip Flop B                                                      5:10
    16/ Absent Friends 1                                                 2:06
    17/ Duet Seeds                                                       3:46
    18/ Bozoburst B                                                      1:05

    Recorded at Noise NY, P.S. 122 and on Guy's answering machine

  David Watson: shears, stick violin, guitar, trumpet; Judy Dunaway: guitar,
  balloons; Anthony Coleman: sampler; Raissa St. Pierre: drums; Guy Yarden:
  violin, piano; Leslie Ross: bassoon; Linda Austin: guitar; Bruce Kaplan:
  guitar; Doug Henderson: peckhorn, bass, toy piano; Sue Ann Harkey: 12-string
  guitar; Cinnie Cole: sampler; Mike Sappol: bass, busy box, tape loops; Nell:
  vox; Ruth Peyser: guitar; Chris Cochrane: guitar; Doug Seidel: guitar, con-
  gas; Nancy Campbell: saxophone; Ikue Mori: drum machine; Evan Gallagher:
  junk, percussion, toys, piano; Sue Garner: bass; Zeena Parkins: keyboard;
  Catherine Jauniaux: voice, flute; George Cartwright: saxophone, flute;
  Matthew Ostrowski: analog synthesizer; Bob Lipman: guitar; David Sardy:
  drums, bass; Paul Hoskin: contrabass clarinet; Steve Peters: saxophone,
  Santa Fe; Fred Lonberg-Holm: travicello, San Francisco; Will Sternberg: gui-
  tar, tapes, Paris; Bruno Meillier: saxophone, St. Etienne.

    1990 - ?What Next? (USA), WN0002 (CD)


026 - ABSOLUT CD #2 - THE JAPANESE PERSPECTIVE: various artists

  This record features works by Yuji Takahashi, Yoshiaki Ochi and Yoshihisa
  Ochi, Ushio Torikai, Yoshihisa Taira, Yoriaki Matsudaira, Roughage, Akira
  Sakata, Yamatsuka Eye and John Zorn, Ruins, Michihiro Satoh, Merzbow,
  Haruna Miyake, Ikue Mori, Toru Takemitsu.

    13/ Blue Seeds                              (Mori)                   4:05

    Recorded at Roulette in 1989

  Luli Shioi: vocals, bass; Davey Williams: guitar; Hahn Rowe: violin; Ikue
  Mori: drums, drum machine.

    1990 - Ear Magazine/Absolut (USA), Absolut #2 (CD)


027 - A CONFEDERACY OF DANCES VOL.1: Live Recordings from The Roulette Series
  New York

  This record features music by Bill Frisell, Christian Marclay, Tohban Djan,
  Zeena Parkins, Billy Bang, Anthony Coleman, David Weinstein, Chris Cochrane,
  Ron Kuivila, John Zorn, Guy Klucevsek, Shelley Hirsch/Ikue Mori/David Shea/
  Jim Staley Quartet, Jeanne Lee/Wadada Leo Smith Duo.

  Ikue Mori plays on two tracks, one with Tohban Djan:

    3/ Blue Seed                                (Mori, Shioi)            3:59

    Recorded live on November 12, 1989 at The Roulette, New York City

  Ikue Mori: drums, drum machine; Luli Shioi: voice, bass; Hahn Rowe: violin;
  Davey Williams: guitar.

  and one with Shelley Hirsch, Ikue Mori, David Shea, Jim Staley Quartet:

    13/ Ulula Zone                              (coll. improv.)          8:38

    Recorded live on July 18, 1991 at The Roulette, New York City

  Shelley Hirsch: voice; Ikue Mori: drum machines; David Shea: turntables,
  tapes, compact discs, effects; Jim Staley: trombone.

    1992 - Einstein Records (USA), Einstein 001 (CD)


028 - DON GIOVANNI: Jim Staley

    1/ Overture                                 (Staley)                 1:45
    PART ONE
    2/ Tomkins Square (3 parts)                 (Staley)                 7:07
    3/ Booty Dance                              (Staley)                 3:09
    4/ I Love You So Much                       (Staley)                 3:10
    5/ As Momentums Go By                       (Staley)                 2:20
    6/ Recitative: Trombone, Guitar, Harp, And Drums
                        (Staley)                 2:14
    7/ So Noble And Kind He Seemed              (Staley)                 2:06
    8/ Clockworks                               (Staley)                 2:18
    9/ Finale: Now And From                     (Staley)                 5:02
    PART TWO
    10/ Introduction: Giovanni's Dream          (Staley)                 3:34
    11/ Intimations                             (Staley)                 1:50
    12/ Upshifting On An Upgrade                (Staley)                 0:25
    13/ Spontaneous Navigation                  (Staley)                 5:13
    14/ 'Til The Cows Come Home                 (Staley)                 2:07
    15/ T.Sq. Reaggitated (3 parts)             (Staley)                 2:12
    16/ Desolution                              (Staley)                 4:24
    17/ Z Gate To A Void                        (Staley)                 2:27
    18/ Carnival                                (Staley)                 3:49
    19/ Epilogue                                (Staley)                 2:04

    Recorded at Sorcerer Sound Studios, New York City, June 12 & 13, 1990
    Produced by Fred Frith

  Ikue Mori: drums, electronic drums; Zeena Parkins: electric and acoustic
  harps; Jim Staley: trombone, didjeridu; Tenko: vocals; Davey Williams:
  electric guitar.

    1992 - Einstein Records (USA), Einstein 002 (CD)


029 - URSA'S DOOR: Zeena Parkins

    1/ Ursa's Door                              (Parkins)               31:45
    2/ Flush                                    (Parkins)               14:51

    Recorded at Baby Monster Studios, New York, in June 1991 and January 1992

  Sara Parkins: violin, voice on (1); Margaret Parkins: cello, voice on (1);
  Zeena Parkins: electric harp, keyboards, percussion on (1), tapes on (1),
  piano on (2); Ikue Mori: electronic percussion, drums; Chris Cochrane: elec-
  tric guitar; David Shea: voice, percussion (1).

    1992 - Victo (Canada), VICTO cd018 (CD)


030 - SHOCK CORRIDOR: David Shea

    1/ Shock Corridor                           (Shea)                  19:29
    2/ Cartoon For Scott Bradley                (Shea)                   2:57
    3/ Trio For Samplers                        (Shea)                   6:29

    Recorded in January 1992 at Baby Monster Studio

  Anthony Coleman: piano, organ; Shelley Hirsch: voice, electronics (1); Ikue
  Mori (1): drum machine; Zeena Parkins (1): electric harp; Jim Pugliese (1):
  percussion; David Shea: turntables, sampler, voice, jaw harp, harmonica; Jim
  Staley (1): trombone, didjeridu.

    1992 - Avant (Japan), Avan 013 (CD)


031 - STATE OF THE UNION: various artists

  This record features two sets of musicians, one from 1982 was available on
  a LP, and one from 1992 only available on this CD.

  1982: John Lurie, Felipe Orrego, Peter Blegvad/John Greaves, Diana Meckley,
  Bill Obrecht, Pulsallama, Bartok Lieberman, Michael Boom, Squat Theatre,
  A.C. Chubb, Gerry Lindahl, Arto Lindsay/Toni Nougueira, Social Climbers,
  Sonorexia, Tim Wright, Spalding Gray, Thi-Linh Le, Christian Marclay, Adele
  Bertei, Ivan Kupala, Charles K. Noyes, Chris Vine, Tuli Kupferberg, Sue
  Hanel, Butch Morris/Jessica Hagedorn, F.A. Nettelbeck/Wayne Horvitz, Martin
  Bisi/Victoria Galvez Bisi, Melody Sumner, Marina La Palma, Bob Holman/Vito
  Ricci, Artless Time Band, Fred Frith/Tina Curran, Patrick Sumner,
  Hi-Sheriffs Of Blue.

  1992: David Garland, Barbara Barg, Borbetomagus/Voice Crack, Soldier String
  Quartet, Margot Mifflin, Krackhouse, Ikue Mori, Anthony Coleman, God Is My
  Co-Pilot, Lois V. Vierk/Ngoneni Cele, Marc Ribot, Vicki Stansbury, GenKen
  Montgomery, John Zorn/Yamatsuka Eye, David Fulton, Nicholas Collins, Marc
  Sloan, Syd Straw, David Linton, Pamela Z, Grafted Media Devil, Mofungo,
  Henry Kaiser, Mad Arab, David Shea, Alex Noyes, Wanda Phipps/M. Doughty/
  Jonathan Maron, Michelle Kinney, Brian Karl, Lee Ann Brown/Sarah Boyd Blair,
  A Thousand Tiny Fingers, Leslie Ross, Hal Willner, Shelley Hirsch.

    ?/ Frankspeech/Tongue & Groove

  Dave Watson: guitar, tape; Ikue Mori: IM-drum machines.

    Produced by Elliott Sharp

    1992 - Arrest Records (USA), ??? (CD)
    1993 - Muworks Records (USA), MUW 1016 CD (CD)

  Note: Ikue Mori does not play on the 1982 vinyl edition.
  Note: the CD was initialy issued by Arrest Records in 1992 but the company
   went out of business simultaneously with the release - there might be some
   copies floating around.


032 - JEWEL BOX: various artists

  This features women composers and improvisers including Sapphire, Bun Ching
  Lam, Mary Ellen Child, Catherine Jauniaux / Ikue Mori, Laetitia Sonami,
  Sussan Deihim, Michelle Kinney, Anne LeBaron.

    ?/ ??                                                               ??:??

  Catherine Jauniaux: voice; Ikue Mori: ???.

    1992 - Tellus (USA), Tellus 26 (CT)
    1992 - Tellus (USA), Tellus 26 (CD)


033 - PASSED NORMAL VOL. 5: various artists

  This record features David Thomas & The Pedestrians, Mother Gong, Catherine
  Jauniaux/Ikue Mori, Fred, Ray Mason, Ivor Cutler, Daevid Allen & The Magic
  Brothers, Voodoo Mark/Pink Bob, Mecca, Frank Pahl with Major Dents, The
  Sediments, Henry Kaiser/Jim O'Rourke, Street Art, Amy Denio, Hugh Hopper,
  Jason Willett, Lol Coxhill, Grrr, Elton Dean, Tim Hodgkinson.

  Ikue Mori plays on one track with Catherine Jauniaux:

    3/ Shiver                                   (Jauniaux, Mori)         3:45

    Recorded live at The Kitchen, New York City in 1991 (?)

  Catherine Jauniaux: vocals; Ikue Mori: drum machines.

    1992 (1993?) - Fot Records (USA), FOT PN5 (CD)


034 - LAST LIVE AT CBGB: DNA

    1/ Newest Fastest                                                    1:35
    2/ 5:30                                                              1:10
    3/ Detach                                                            1:33
    4/ New New                                                           3:07
    5/ 32123                                                             1:12
    6/ Brand New                                                         3:16
    7/ Horse                                                             3:13
    8/ Forgery                                                           1:01
    9/ New Fast                                                          1:17
    10/ Blonde Red Head                                                  1:50
    11/ Action                                                           1:07
    12/ Marshall                                                         2:12
    13/ Lying On The Sofa Of Life                                        2:10
    14/ New Low                                                          1:45
    15/ Calling To Phone                                                 2:26

    Recorded live at the CBGB in 1982

  Arto Lindsay: guitar, vocal; Tim Wright: bass; Ikue Mori: drums.

    1993 - Avant (Japan), Avant 006 (CD)


035 - DEATH PRAXIS: Tenko, Ikue Mori

    1/ Magic                                                             3:12
    2/ Bad Seed                                                          2:33
    3/ Hearse                                                            5:02
    4/ Metal Dream                                                       2:24
    5/ Death Mask                                                        3:31
    6/ Economic Noise                                                    2:56
    7/ Fortune Cookie                                                    0:33
    8/ Rain                                                              4:03
    9/ Glow, Worm                                                        7:12
    10/ Where's Missing                                                  1:51
    11/ Confession                                                       3:23
    12/ Lullaby                                                          2:42
    13/ She                                                              2:27
    14/ Death                                                            1:54
    15/ Enticement                                                       2:09
    16/ When The Sun Shines I Can See Your Mind                          2:12
    17/ I Know You                                                       4:29

    Recorded at Dessau Studio, New York City
    Produced by Tenko and Ikue Mori

  Tenko: vocals; Ikue Mori: drum machine.

    1993 - ?What Next? (USA), WN 0011 (CD)


036 - VIBRASLAPS: Catherine Jauniaux, Ikue Mori

    1/ Shiver                                   (Jauniaux, Mori)         2:58
    2/ Missing                                  (Jauniaux, Mori)         2:22
    3/ Courageous Little Ant                    (Jauniaux, Mori)         1:33
    4/ Fischtank                                (Jauniaux, Mori)         3:21
    5/ Ich Bin Allein                           (Daniel Schell)          2:06
    6/ Ce Grand Neant                           (Jauniaux, Mori)         3:54
    7/ Betty Boop                               (Jauniaux, Mori)         2:15
    8/ Mentira                                  (Jauniaux, Mori)         2:51
    9/ Important Things Are Whispered           (Jauniaux, Mori)         1:30
    10/ Dejeuner Du Matin                       (CJ,IM, Jacques Prevert) 1:58
    11/ Witches Brew                            (Jauniaux, Mori)         1:54
    12/ Faint Clue                              (Jauniaux, Mori)         4:16
    13/ Song From Before My Life                (Jauniaux, Mori)         3:33
    14/ Smell                                   (Jauniaux, Mori)         4:28
    15/ I fall in love too easily               (S. Cahn, J. Styne)      1:58

    Recorded by Tom Cora at Dessau Studio, New York City in June 1992
    Produced by Tom Cora, Catherine Jauniaux and Ikue Mori

  Catherine Jauniaux: voice; Ikue Mori: drum machines.

    1993 - RecRec Music (Switzerland), ReCDec 52 (CD)


037 - MUSIQUE'S ACTION - VANDOEUVRE 1988/1992: various artists

  This record features music/performances by John Cage, Elliott Sharp/Carbon,
  Daniel Koskowitz, Francois Raulin/Louis Sclavis, Mike Sappol/Krackhouse,
  Dominique Regef, Alfred Harth/Peter Hollinger/Ferdinand Richard, A.M.I.S.
  Quartet, David Moss, Floros Floridis/Paul Lovens/Jean-Marc Montera, David
  Garland/Words Of Love, Danik Lazro/Joe McPhee, Pascal Comelade.

  Ikue Mori plays on one track with David Garland/Words Of Love:

    11/ My Pony's Falling                       (Garland)                4:15

    Recorded on May 6-7, 1989

  David Garland: keyboards, voice; Cinnie Cole: banjo, keyboard, voice; Ikue
  Mori: electronic percussion, voice.

    1993 - Semantic (France), Vand'Oeuvre 9304 (CD)


038 - I GUESS I JUST WASN'T MADE FOR THESE TIMES: David Garland

  David Garland; Cinnie Cole; Ikue Mori; Akoshia String Quartet.

    1993 (?) - Music-Scene (Japon), ??? (CD)


039 - ANGELICA 93: various artists

  A document from the third edition of this new music festival in Italy which
  features Wolter Wierbos, Peter Kowald, Butch Morris, Dietmar Diesner, Steve
  Beresford, Han Bennink, Hans Reichel, Tom Cora, Catherine Jauniaux, Ikue
  Mori, Lindsay Cooper, Fred Frith, Gianni Gebbia, Lars Hollmer.

  Ikue Mori plays on two tracks with Butch Morris:

    19/ Conduction 31 - Angelica                                         6:13
    20/ Conduction 31 E1 - Angelica                                      4:29

    Recorded at the third Angelica International Music Festival, Bologne,
    May 13-18, 1993

  Han Bennink; Steve Beresford; Tom Cora; Dietmar Diesner; Catherine Jauniaux;
  Peter Kowald; Ikue Mori; Wolter Wierbos; Butch Morris: conduction.

    1994 - CaiCai Music (Italy), 004 (CD)


040 - STEP TO ANOTHER WORLD MUSIC: various artists

  This record features Bob Ostertag, Skeleton Crew, Die Knodel, The Jellyfish
  Kiss, Il Gran Teatro Amaro, Fred Frith, The Hat Shoes, wernerBaertschi, The
  Ex/Tom Cora, Tenko, After Dinner, Massacre, No Secrets In the Family,
  Vibraslaps, Ferdinand & Les Philosophes, Camberwell Now, Negativland, Goz
  of Kermeur, Tiere der nacht, The Orthotonics, Zero Pop, Debile Menthol,
  Guigou Chenevier, No Safety, Romeo Vendrame.

  Ikue Mori plays on one track with Vibraslaps:

    15/ Betty Boop                                                       2:15

    1994 - RecRec Music (Switzerland), ReCDec 50 (CD)

  See VIBRASLAPS (1993) for further references.


041 - LIVE IN LONDON: Vibraslaps

    1/ Ce Grand Neant
    2/ Pantheon

    Recorded at Conway Hall, London during the 1992 London Musicians Collec-
    tive Festival

  Ikue Mori: electronic percussions; Catherine Jauniaux: voice.

    1994 - Making of Americans (USA), MA-10 (7")

  Note: limited edition of 500 copies.


042 - ISABELLE: Zeena Parkins

    1/ Outside
    2/ The Magician
    3/ EL OUED: Romance
    4/ Si Mahmoud Essadi: The Convert
    5/ La Petite Gironde: Victor Barrucand lends a hand
    6/ Fever
    7/ Monastery of Kenadsa
    8/ AIN SEFRA: In Captivity and Flood
    9/ Oblivion Seekers
    10/ The Breath of Night

    Recorded in September 1993 at Baby Monster Studio
    Produced by Zeena Parkins

  Lisa Crowder: piano; Margaret Parkins: cello; Sara Parkins: violin; Zeena
  Parkins: sampler, electric harp, piano, snare drum.

    11/ Look out for Gail Garrity - Girl Wonder
    12/ Chamber of Eternal Wisdom
    13/ ... the uncanny feeling of being watched
    14/ "MY GOD! Have I flung myself into an endless void?"
    15/ Ju-Jitsu Jimmy - Impulse Beam Rising

    Recorded in Fall 1992 at Harmonic Ranch Studio
    Produced by Zeena Parkins

  Ikue Mori: electric percussion; Zeena Parkins: samples, electric harp, East
  Berlin toy.

    1995 - Avant (Japan), Avan 018 (CD)


043 - PAINTED DESERT: Ikue Mori

    1/ Mojave                                   (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     6:58
    2/ Medicine Man                             (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     4:16
    3/ Desperado                                (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     3:26
    4/ Cheyenne                                 (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     5:17
    5/ El Dorado                                (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     7:31
    6/ Santa Ana Excursion                      (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     5:55
    7/ Gundown                                  (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     1:43
    8/ Painted Desert                           (Mori, Quine, Ribot)     9:31

    Recorded at Sear Sound, NYC on February 14, 15, and 16, 1994
    Produced by John Zorn

  Ikue Mori: drum machine; Robert Quine: guitars; Marc Ribot: guitars.

    1995 - Avant (Japan), Avan 030 (CD)


044 - SAME SAME: Fast Forward

    1/ Simultaneous Music                       (Fast Forward)          27:32
    2/ The Yin-Yang Merger                      (Fast Forward)          20:26
    3/ Feeding Frenzy                           (FF, GK, IM)            24:45

    (1) recorded at Merkin Concert Hall, New York on November 12, 1992
    (2) recorded at Performing Space 122, New York on October 28, 1990
    (3) recorded at Lotus Arts on January 29, 1994

  Fast Forward: pedal steel guitar, peddlers drums, televisions, telephone
  books, cassettes, dishes, timbales, alarm sirens, water whistle; Michelle
  Kinney (1): cello, stretched adhesive tape; Takehisa Kosugi (1): violin,
  voice, stamping; David Moss (1): percussion, voice, electronics; David Shea
  (1): turntables; Alex Tobias (1): bodhran, penny whistle, harmonica; Yuval
  Gabay (2): tom-toms, brake drum, water whistle; James Lo (2): tom-toms,
  triggered voices, water whistle; Ben Neill (2): mutantrumpet, electronics,
  water whistle; Guy Klucevsek (3): accordion; Ikue Mori (3): drum machine.

    1995 - Experimental Intermedia Foundation (USA), XI 108 (CD)


045 - HEX KITCHEN: Ikue Mori

    1/ Slush                                                             2:36
    2/ Woke Up Aghast                                                    3:18
    3/ Angler Fish                                                       3:48
    4/ Shiver                                                            3:10
    5/ Recipe                                                            4:09
    6/ Loops                                                             3:28
    7/ Kiss Of Fire                             (trad.)                  3:44
    8/ Eight Million Ways To Die                                         4:20
    9/ Clapper                                                           2:49
    10/ Dau Miu                                                          4:10
    11/ Hive                                                             5:13

    Recorded at Harmonic Ranch Studio
    Produced by Ikue Mori

  Ikue Mori: drum machines, sampler, vocal; David Watson (2,11): bagpipe,
  guitar; Hideki Kato (2,6): bass; Catherine Jauniaux (3,4,7): vocal; Zeena
  Parkins (3,4,6,8,11): electric harp, keyboard, accordion; John Zorn (3):
  clarinet; Hahn Rowe (4,7,8): guitar, bass, violin; Jim Staley (10): trom-
  bone.

    1995 - Tzadik (USA), TZ 7201 (CD)


046 - DEATH AMBIENT: Kato Hideki, Ikue Mori, Fred Frith

    1/ Prophecy                                                          7:23
    2/ Imperial Thorn                                                    7:49
    3/ Hedgetrimmer                                                      2:31
    4/ Alchemy                                                           2:41
    5/ Heart Set 1                                                       0:49
    6/ Rain                                                              1:57
    7/ Broken Blue                                                       2:18
    8/ Loquat Tree                                                       2:51
    9/ White Eye                                                         2:37
    10/ Coyote Got Away                                                  4:43
    11/ A Dead Staphyloccus Looks Like a Skull                           1:46
    12/ Heart Set 2                                                      0:31
    13/ Loading and Running                                              1:14
    14/ Flash                                                            5:33
    15/ Ways Out                                                         3:54

    Recorded at Green Point Studio
    Produced By Kato Hideki and Ikue Mori

  Kato Hideki: bass; Ikue Mori: drum machines; Fred Frith: guitar.

    1995 - Tzadik (USA), TZ 7207 (CD)


047 - TESTAMENT: A CONDUCTION COLLECTION: Lawrence "Butch" Morris

    1/ Conduction #11, Where Music Goes

    Recorded on December 18, 1988 at The Great American Music Hall, San
    Francisco, California

  Bruce Ackley: soprano; Dave Barrett: alto; Larry Ochs: sax; Jon Raskin:
  alto, baritone saxophone; Chris Brown: piano; JA Deane: trombone, electro-
  nics; Jon English: bass; Jon Jang: piano; Bill Horvitz: electric guitar;
  Blk lion: guitar, electronics; Kash Killion: cello; Kaila Flexer: violin;
  Hal Hughes: violin; Willy Winnant: percussion.

    2/ Conduction #15, Where Music Goes II

    Recorded on November 15 & 16, 1989 at the Whitney Museum of American Art,
    New York City

  Arthur Blythe: alto; Thurman Barker: vibes, percussion; Marion Brandis:
  flute, piccolo; Vincent Chancey: French horn; Curtis Clark: piano; JA Deane:
  trombone, live sampling; Janet Grice: bassoon; Bill Horvitz: electric gui-
  tar; Jason Hwang: violin; Taylor McLean: percussion; Jemeel Moondoc: flute;
  Zeena Parkins: harp; Brandon Ross: acoustic guitar.

    3/ Conduction #22, Documenta: Gloves & Mitts

    Recorded on June 14, 1992 at Documenta 9, Kassel, Germany

  Christian Marclay: turntables; Le Quan Ninh: percussion; JA Deane: trombone,
  live sampling; Martin Schutz: cello; Gunter Muller: drums, electronics.

    4/ Conduction #23, Quinzaine de Montreal

    Recorded April 11, 1992 at The Spectrum, Montreal, Quebec

  Tristan Honsinger: cello; Martin Schutz: cello; Eric Longsworth: cello;
  Michelle Kinney: broom-cello; Ken Butler: broom-cello; Helmut Lipsky:
  violin; JA Deane: trombone, live sampling; Guillaume Dostaler: piano; Mike
  Milligan: bass; Pierre Dube: vibes.

    5/ Conduction #25, The Akbank Conduction
    6/ Conduction #26, Akbank II

    (5) recorded on October 16, 1992 in Istanbul, Turkey
    (6) recorded on October 17, 1992 in Istanbul, Turkey

  The Suleyman Erguner Ensemble: Hasan Esen: kemence; Mehmet Emin Bitmez: ud;
  Goksel Baktagir: kanun; Suleyman Erguner: ney; Le Quean Ninh: percussion;
  Bryan Carrott: vibes; JA Deane: trombone, live sampling; Elizabeth Panzer:
  harp; Brandon Ross: acoustic guitar; Steve Colson: piano; Hugh Ragin: pocket
  trumpet;

    7/ Conduction #28, Cherry Blossom

    Recorded on March 28, 1993 at P3 Art and Environment, Tokyo, Japan

  Yukihiro Isso: nokan; Shonosuke Okura: ohtsuzumi; Makiko Sakurai: shomyo,
  music box; Michihiro Sato: tugaru syamisen; Kizan Daiyoshi: shakuhachi; Yuji
  Katsui: violin; Haruna Miyake: piano; Asuka Kaneko: voice; Shuichi Chino:
  computer; Koichi Makigami: voice; Yoshihide Otomo: turntables, CD player;
  Kazutoki Umezu: bass clarinet; Sachiko Nagata: percussion; Motoharu
  Yoshizawa: electric bass; Kazuo Oono: Butoh dance; Kouichi Tamano: Butoh
  dance.

    8/ Conduction #31

    Recorded on May 16, 1993 at the Angelica Festival of International Music,
    Bologna, Italy

  Dietmar Diesner: soprano; Peter Kowald: bass; Wolter Wierbos: trombone;
  Steve Beresford: piano; Hans Reichel: guitar; Tom Cora: cello; Han Bennink:
  drums; Catherine Jauniaux: voice; Ikue Mori: drum machines.

    9/ Conduction #35, American Connection 4
    10/ Conduction #36, American Connection 4

    (9) recorded on May 26, 1993 at Antwerp, Belgium
    (10) recorded on May 27, 1993 at Amsterdam, Holland

  The Maarten Altena Ensemble: Maarten Altena: bass; Michael Barker: recorder,
  blockflutes; Peter van Bergen: bass clarinet, tenor; Wiek Hijmans: guitar;
  Alison Isadora: violin; Jannie Pranger: voice; Michael Vatcher: drums;
  Wolter Wierbos: trombone; Michiel Scheen: piano.

    11/ Conduction #38, In Freud's Garden

    Recorded on December 11, 1993 at Muffathalle, Germany

  Myra Melford: piano; Zeena Parkins: harp; Bryan Carrott: vibes; Brandon
  Ross: acoustic guitar; JA Deane: trombone, live sampling; Motoharu
  Yoshizawa: electric bass; Le Quan Ninh: percussion; Martin Schutz: cello;
  Tristan Honsinger: cello; Martine Altenburger: cello; Edgar Laubscher:
  electric viola; Hans Koch: clarinet, bass & contrabass clarinets, soprano,
  tenor.

    12/ Conduction #39
    13/ Conduction #40

    (12) recorded on November 11, 1993 at Threadwaxing Space, New York City
    (13) recorded on November 12, 1993 at Threadwaxing Space, New York City

  Christian Marclay: turntables; Elliott Sharp: dobro; Chris Cunningham: gui-
  tar; Gregor Kitzis: violin; Dana Friedli: violin; Jason Hwang: violin; Myra
  Melford: piano; Damon Ra Choice: vibes, percussion; Reggie Nicholson: vibes,
  percussion; Michelle Kinney: cello; Deidre L. Murray: cello; Elizabeth
  Panzer: harp; William Parker: bass; Mark Helias: bass; Fred Hopkins: bass.

    14/ Conduction #41, New World

    Recorded on February 4, 1994 at New World, Opperman Music Hall, Florida
    State University School of Music

  Jesse Canterbury: clarinet; Mimi Patterson: clarinet; Scott Deeter: sax;
  Philip Gelb: shakuhachi; Gregor Harvey: guitar; Ethan Schaffner: electric
  guitar; Elisabeth King: voice; Daniel Raney: trombone; David Tatro: trombo-
  ne; Michael Titlebaum: alto.

    15/ Conduction #50

    Recored on March 5, 1995 at P3 Art and Environment, Tokyo, Japan

  Asuka Kaneko: electric violin; Kim Dae Hwan: percussion; Haruna Miyake:
  piano; Shonosuke Okura: o-tuzumi; Hikaru Sawai: koto; Yumiko Tanaka: gidayu;
  Yoshihide Otomo: turntables; Michihiro Satoh: tugaru-syamisen; Tomomi
  Adachi: voice; Keizo Mizoiri: bass; Motoharu Yoshizawa: electric bass; Ayuo
  Takahashi: zheng.

    Produced by J.A. Deane and Butch Morris

    1995 - New World/CounterCurrents (USA), 80478-2 (10xCD)


048 - LES FLEURS DE LEO: M.F. Cote / Bruire

  Ikue Mori; etc.

    ???? - Ambiances Magnetiques (Canada), ??? (CD)


049 - NORTHERN DANCER: Jim Staley

    1/ Northern Dancer                (Zorn, Staley)
    2/ Roast the Bird                (Hirsch, Sharp, Staley)
    3/ Tomy Lee                    (Mori, Williams, Staley)
    4/ Middleground                (Mori, Williams, Staley)
    5/ Carry Back                (Mori, Williams, Staley)
    6/ Whirlaway                (Parkins, Mori, Staley)
    7/ Dark Star                (Parkins, Mori, Staley)
    8/ Dancer's Image                (Hirsch, Sharp, Staley)
    9/ Decidedly (for Sal Martirano)        (Staley)

    (1) recorded live at Roulette, New York City on November 27, 1995
    (2,8) recorded live at Roulette, New York City on March 17, 1994
    (3,4,5) recorded live at Roulette, New York City on November 3, 1995
    (6,7) recorded live at Roulette, New York City on March 15, 1995
    (9) recorded live in Urbana, Illinois on October 4, 1995

  Jim Staley: trombone, didjeridu; Shelley Hirsch (2,8): voice; Ikue Mori (3,
  4,5): drum machines; Zeena Parkins (6,7): electric harp; Elliott Sharp (2,
  8): double-neck guitar/bass, clarinet; Davey Williams (3,4,5): guitar; John
  Zorn (1): alto.

    1996 - Einstein Records (USA), 006 (CD)



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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Film Works III
Date: 30 Apr 1996 07:56:00 +0200 (METDST)

Has anybody heard "Film Works III" (yes, 3)? It's out on Toy's Factory
Records. It features the "Thieves Quartet" stuff, some music for japanese
cartoons (any info greatly appreciated!) and some stuff from commercials.
Maybe Patrice could post the info?

Jonas

BTW Is the liner notes on the Toy's Factory releases in japanese?


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From: Alan Gordon <[e-mail]>
Subject: PSF records
Date: 30 Apr 1996 11:54:06 +0100 (BST)

does anyone know anything about a japanese label called (i think) PSF?
all i know is that their records are in the same rack as the "nani nani"
cd, and have quite strange covers.  they are prohibitively expensive as
are all japanese cds here, so i thought i'd ask before i buy.

thanks,
alan


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: Ikue Mori again
Date: 30 Apr 1996 08:30:46 PDT

Can't help with a discography... Patrice?;-)

But here's the skinny on the two Tzadiks from
last year...

TZ 7201 Ikue Mori: Hex Kitchen
with Catherine Jauniaux, Zeena Parkins, Hahn Rowe,
David Watson, Kato Hideki, John Zorn

TZ 7207 Death Ambient
Ikue Mori, Kato Hideki, Fred Frith

Both highly recommended.

Best,
Steve Smith
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Filmworks III/PSF
Date: 30 Apr 1996 10:54:29 -0400

I picked up "Filmworks II" on Toys Factory quite some time ago, and am hoping
that the same store will carry the "Filmworks III" that was mentioned.  I
will of course let you know if I find it...
PSF records is a pretty cool japanese label, the music presented by it runs
the gamut from stoned out hippy psych rock to free jazz and all points in
between.  I wouldn't recommend just grabbing whatever PSF title is within
reach and buying it, as I doubt that many of us here have tastes as broad as
the types of music that they present.  Tatsuya Yoshida's Musica Transonic
trio (which falls into the stoned out hippy psych rock category) has a CD on
PSF, and High Rise (one member of which is also in Musica Transonic) have a
few.  Other notable PSF releases are those by Mikami Kan and Toho Sara...
other than that, I have little exposure to the label's other works.


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From: plantarm <[e-mail]>
Subject: various
Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:55:30 -0500 (EST)

hey y'all.  how can i contact tzadik for ordering purposes?  i am
now seriously frothing over some ruins cd's, but wouldn'tcha know it,
they don't exist anywhere within 100 miles of here.... i have phone,
e-mail (obviously), netscape, and lots of paper and envelopes, just
tell me how!

eric M.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New Jon Rose?
Date: 30 Apr 1996 19:31:56 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-30 14:31:13 EDT, [e-mail] (simon)
write:

>Hmm.. Does anyone, like me, think that Jon Rose is totally pretentious? I
saw
>him playing with Chadbourne and Chris Cutler in Berlin and I felt he ruined
>it
>with his clever toys (toy wind up violins) and general 'artiness' ; a
>distinct
>lack of improvisational savoire faire and musical inspiration..

I have found some groups of improvisors who don't do it the way we're used to
seeing it done.  Most of the free improvisors I've heard, seen and played
with are descended from the Baily/Parker and then Frith/Zorn school.  I've
also been exposed to improvisors who have no idea what has come before them.
 Somehow they figured it was o.k. to bang on pots and pans, play a guitar
with a tape measure, play sax mouthpieces, etc.  There is a group here in
Colorado called The Miracle who are a bunch of hippies and jazz musicians who
are very theatrical and very noisy.  A complete lack of sophistication and
"savoir faire".  And yet, they're a gas!  I've seen other people, too, from
different parts of the US who are just wailing and fun.

Now, these people are very un-pretentious and I get the impression that you
feel Jon Rose is pretentious.  No arguement from me, as I've never seen him
perform. Just my two cents worth.  :-)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New Jon Rose?
Date: 30 Apr 1996 19:39:25 -0400

In a message dated 96-04-30 14:31:13 EDT, [e-mail] (simon)
write:

>Hmm.. Does anyone, like me, think that Jon Rose is totally pretentious? I
saw
>him playing with Chadbourne and Chris Cutler in Berlin and I felt he ruined
>it
>with his clever toys (toy wind up violins) and general 'artiness' ; a
>distinct
>lack of improvisational savoire faire and musical inspiration..

I have found some groups of improvisors who don't do it the way we're used to
seeing it done.  Most of the free improvisors I've heard, seen and played
with are descended from the Baily/Parker and then Frith/Zorn school.  I've
also been exposed to improvisors who have no idea what has come before them.
 Somehow they figured it was o.k. to bang on pots and pans, play a guitar
with a tape measure, play sax mouthpieces, etc.  There is a group here in
Colorado called The Miracle who are a bunch of hippies and jazz musicians who
are very theatrical and very noisy.  A complete lack of sophistication and
"savoir faire".  And yet, they're a gas!  I've seen other people, too, from
different parts of the US who are just wailing and fun.

Now, these people are very un-pretentious and I get the impression that you
feel Jon Rose is pretentious.  No arguement from me, as I've never seen him
perform. Just my two cents worth.  :-)




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From: plantarm <[e-mail]>
Subject: ruins
Date: 30 Apr 1996 21:06:27 -0500 (EST)

a question again: i've found a mail order source for ruins cd's.  which
would be a better purchase, "burning stone" or "hyderomastgroningem"?
i've read a quite favorable review of the latter in alternative press,
a magazine i trust at least moderately...

eric M.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ruins
Date: 30 Apr 1996 22:57:55 -0400

"Burning Stone" is the ultimate Ruins recording... nothing else that they
have attempted before or since has captured the spark which existed through
out the "Burning Stone" sessions.  Keep in mind, though, that every Ruins
recording is worth three times its weight in gold (and then some)... "Burning
Stone" just happens to be their finest hour (as of yet).


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From: N Vassiliou <[e-mail]>
Subject: David Shea and other collaborators
Date: 26 Apr 1996 17:27:13 +0100 (BST)

Since i have not seen any reference to any of his works(although he has
worked with Zorn and has a Tzadik release) i thought i'd give my opinion
on I, his solo sampler work.
For one thing, it is difficult to believe that everything on the CD comes
from his sampler, in real time as he states in the notes. Although
musically it does not sound at all like Zorn, the themes of the tracks are
quite similar:Screwy Squirrel and Tex(Avery) with their Warner Bros
samplesand Alpha(probably the best track), inspired from Godaurd's
Alphaville. Inspired is the key word here, since Shea does not rework
the soundtrack of the film or make an alternative soundtrack(as in Bill
Frisell's Buster Keaton works), but creates music inspired from it, that
can stand alone by itself, as Shea himself states on almost all of his
works. Altogether an excellent release.

On different note, has anyone listened to volume 1 in the Sub
Rosa/Subsonic series(Fred Frith/Marc Ribot)?I am really interested to know
if it is any good.

No Signature

N Vassiliou
York,UK



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From: [e-mail] (James Lawrence Kirchmer)
Subject: FYI: ENDLESS RECORDS CD RELEASE
Date: 24 Apr 1996 12:21:54 -0700


Hello there - a new label here in Seattle called ENDLESS RECORDS has
JUST put out a COMPILATION CD, appropriately titled as follows:

- ENDLESS RECORDS - complication one - collected sounds f/the northwest
** The album features studio tracks by the following groups/artists:
   PIGPEN(w/WAYNE HORVITZ), Sadhappy(feat. Skerik), Critters Buggin',
   The Craig Flory Jazz Story(feat. members of Pigpen; Eyvind Kang),
   Jet City 5(feat. Eyvind Kang, Tim Young), FREESTYLE CANDELA(great
   band!- feat. Skerik), "Spoonhappy" (feat. Artis the Spoonman &
   Sadhappy members), P.E.G., The Deformations(feat. Eyvind Kang),
   The Scallywags(feat. Pigpen's Mike Stone), Utterance Tongue,
   Gillnet(feat. Skerik), Eyeball(feat. Eyvind Kang), Richard
   Hinklin, Man in a Can, and: .....Bow Down to NULL.....

** NOTE: only the Pigpen track is currently avail. on another CD,
   namely on their EXCELLENT release "Miss Ann" on Tim Kerr Records.

** Eyvind Kang is currently in Bill Frisell's NEW band(& CD!), btw.
   I also read here a while back that his debut album was released by
   Tzadik.  Also, the CD is approx. 74M long! Hope you enjoy it! :)

ORDERING INFORMATION: Send a check or MONEY ORDER for 12(US$) to:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                           ENDLESS RECORDS
                           17 1/2  W. Dravus
                           Seattle, Wa 98119

* The TWELVE dollars includes postage!!! (Money Order ensures faster
  service, naturally.  Make M.O.'s or checks out to Endless Records)

* Mention where you saw this information!(not essential, of course!)
  - just remember to include your address if not on the M.O./check!

Peace, and btw- I am not affiliated with this label.
Just figure y'all might be interested in this... :)

- James Kirchmer, Seattle, Wa

p.s. - If you have any questions feel free to contact me by email.
       And also: ENDLESS RECORDS can be reached at [phone].