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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #901 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, May 7 2002 Volume 03 : Number 901 In this issue: - Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth Century? Adonai In Dub Re: Don Cherry; Actions RE: Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth Century? Fwd: TOM WAITS DIGEST: Tom Waits release 2 albums and appears on David Letterman tomorrow Kenneth Anger Re: Fwd: TOM WAITS DIGEST: Tom Waits release 2 albums and appears on David Letterman tomorrow Fwd: Adonai In Dub ROVO: TOnic 2001 Re: Don Cherry; Actions AW: satanism Tom Cora Re: Pop Song Re: Tom Cora Tim Sparks? RE: satanism Napalm Death DVD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:39:12 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth Century? According to Tzadik: "original compositions and covers that never appeared on disc make this an absolute must for all the Naked City fans around the world" But where are those original compostions? I sure can't find them. And, where can I find the original version of Morricone's "Erotico"? is it worth tracking down? Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:46:06 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: Adonai In Dub Hey, And what about "Adonai In Dub" by David Gould?? I was expecting to hate this, and never bothered tracking it down, but after I read a (surprisingly!) positive review in the dub section of the Wire I thought why not.... Judging from the few sound bites I could find on the net, it actually sounds amazing! Is it?? The idea of mixing klezmer and dub, seemed very strange (at least, I've never heard about it done before) but I guess it works...??? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:24:19 -0400 From: "Michael Berman" <mberman@his.com> Subject: Re: Don Cherry; Actions the Actions i have on disc only has the number 0008 on it and the cd = itself says pre release. theres no date anywhere so i dont know if this = is the re-release of the album or a newer cd version but I think for a = live event recorded in the seventies it sounds pretty good. the vocals = are out front quite a bit but not through out. actually i find han = bennick further out front then most of the band with the exception of = brotz/breuker pig squeals. not that i mind that. you wouldn't know = terje rypdal was there for much of the show. was the original album Humus and then Penderecki conducting Actions for = Free Jazz Orch.? did it include the follow-along clapping Raga encore? mike - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Arthur Gadney <a_gadney@hotmail.com> To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Don Cherry; Actions > Hello, >=20 > I as wondering if anybody has heard the recently released remastered = version=20 > of Don Cherry's masterpiece "Actions"? >=20 > It's been one of my favorite records for a long time, but I always = found the=20 > female vocals were mixed MUCH to high. I\m hoping maybe there is a = better=20 > ballance on the new release. >=20 > Anybody know? >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com >=20 >=20 > - >=20 >=20 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 10:51:09 -0400 From: Andy Marks <andy.marks@wisesolutions.com> Subject: RE: Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth Century? This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F5D6.9FB329D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was actually a bit disappointed when someone posted the track list and it was mostly songs from other releases. I was looking forward to the "new" stuff. Could be that this was just supposed to be a one-off release, but then later they decided to make it a series and would put the "new" stuff onto a later release. - -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Gadney [mailto:a_gadney@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:39 AM To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Subject: Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth Century? According to Tzadik: "original compositions and covers that never appeared on disc make this an absolute must for all the Naked City fans around the world" But where are those original compostions? I sure can't find them. And, where can I find the original version of Morricone's "Erotico"? is it worth tracking down? Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - - - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F5D6.9FB329D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth = Century?</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> I was actually a bit disappointed when someone posted = the track list and it was mostly songs from other = releases. I was looking forward to the "new" = stuff. Could be that this was just supposed to be a = one-off release, but then later they decided to make it a = series and would put the "new" stuff onto a later = release. -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Gadney [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:a_gadney@hotmail.com">mailto:a_gadney@hotmail.com</A>]</F= ONT> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:39 AM To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Subject: Naked City - The Greatest Hoax of the = Twentieth Century? According to Tzadik: "original compositions and covers that never = appeared on disc make this an absolute must for all the Naked City fans around the = world" But where are those original compostions? I sure = can't find them. And, where can I find the original version of = Morricone's "Erotico"? is it worth tracking down? Cheers. _______________________________________________________________= __ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <A = HREF=3D"http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp</A>. - </BODY> </HTML> - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F5D6.9FB329D0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:57:42 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= <efrendv@yahoo.es> Subject: Fwd: TOM WAITS DIGEST: Tom Waits release 2 albums and appears on David Letterman tomorrow Hi, In case you're not getting the TW digest, you have some info on his appeareance on the D. Letterman Show below- Best, EfrΘn del VAlle > > This is the News Broadcast Feed for > www.officialtomwaits.com. > > 'Alice' and 'Blood Money' are released today! (in > the US). > > Tom Waits has confirmed an appearence on the David > Letterman Show! > The appearance is scheduled for Wednesday, May 8th, > which is one day after > the official street date of both of Tom's new albums > "Alice" and "Blood > Money." Tom will be performing music from his new > album/albums, but there is > no official word on exactly what track/tracks he > will be performing for > sure. > > ================================================================ > If you would like to remove your e-mail address from > our mailing > list, please send an e-mail to > waitsdigest-request@offmind.net with > LEAVE in the message body. > _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicaci≤n instantßnea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 08:03:16 -0700 From: Tosh <tosh3@earthlink.net> Subject: Kenneth Anger There is a pretty decent book out on Anger called 'Moonchild' published by Creation Books. But other then that, Anger is really a great film artist - plus his Hollywood Bablyon is a fantastic SUBJECTIVE look on Hollywood film history. - -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 15:01:45 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: TOM WAITS DIGEST: Tom Waits release 2 albums and appears on David Letterman tomorrow Hello, Does anybody know when this will be shown in the UK?? Letterman is a few days delayed over here, isn't he? Thanks! >From: EfrΘn del Valle <efrendv@yahoo.es> >To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Fwd: TOM WAITS DIGEST: Tom Waits release 2 albums and appears on >David Letterman tomorrow >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:57:42 +0200 (CEST) > >Hi, > >In case you're not getting the TW digest, you have >some info on his appeareance on the D. Letterman Show >below- > >Best, > >EfrΘn del VAlle > > > > This is the News Broadcast Feed for > > www.officialtomwaits.com. > > > > 'Alice' and 'Blood Money' are released today! (in > > the US). > > > > Tom Waits has confirmed an appearence on the David > > Letterman Show! > > The appearance is scheduled for Wednesday, May 8th, > > which is one day after > > the official street date of both of Tom's new albums > > "Alice" and "Blood > > Money." Tom will be performing music from his new > > album/albums, but there is > > no official word on exactly what track/tracks he > > will be performing for > > sure. > > > > >================================================================ > > If you would like to remove your e-mail address from > > our mailing > > list, please send an e-mail to > > waitsdigest-request@offmind.net with > > LEAVE in the message body. > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Messenger >Comunicaci≤n instantßnea gratis con tu gente. >http://messenger.yahoo.es > >- > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:03:04 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= <efrendv@yahoo.es> Subject: Fwd: Adonai In Dub Hi, > > The idea of mixing klezmer and dub, seemed very > strange (at least, I've > never heard about it done before) but I guess it > works...??? In fact, Jamie Saft's "Sovlanut" was based on the same principles but didn't actually work for me. Haven't heard this one but considering that dub is not my cup of tea, I'm sure it could be another big disappointment, just as Saft's record. However, I'm conscious that many people loved the album so you might want to check it out. Best, EfrΘn del Valle _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicaci≤n instantßnea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 15:03:55 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: ROVO: TOnic 2001 Hello, I don't remember if I have already asked before, but how is the new ROVO CD on Tzadik?? I like the Rovo stuff I have heard but, but still feel it's not quite there. It's a bit too "light". Not nearly as good as Neo-Boredoms, at least. But having a feeling that they will eventually put out something amazing, I was wondering if this is it? What about the Laswell mixes, do they work?? Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 15:08:23 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Don Cherry; Actions Hello >the Actions i have on disc only has the number 0008 on it and the cd itself >says pre release. theres no date anywhere so i dont know if this is the >re-release of the album or a newer cd version >but I think for a live event >recorded in the seventies it sounds pretty good. Good recording, bad mixing. >actually i find han bennick further out front then most of the band with >the exception of >brotz/breuker pig squeals. not that i mind that. No, his playing is unbelievable on this album. What a genious. >you wouldn't know terje rypdal was there for much of the show. No, but when his guitar playing does pop out, it's amazing! Very aggressiv, and quite similar to Keiji Haino. I would never have guessed it was Rypdal, since he is one of thew guitar players I love to hate. I mean, come on, his recnet stuff is soooo pathetic. But I guess back then, he had a bit of spark. Where did it go? >was the original album Humus and then Penderecki conducting Actions for >Free Jazz Orch.? did it include the follow-along clapping Raga encore? The lp version I have heard has all three pieces on it, including a little Cherry chat which I don't know what to think about. Well, for startes, this was clearly the 70s. Cheers _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:21:23 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thorsten_Kr=E4mer?= <kraemer@popkomm.de> Subject: AW: satanism thanks for all your comments so far. let me just add something to maybe clarify some misunderstandings: some weeks ago we had a discussion about the zionistic background of the radical jewish culture series. although nobody thought that zorn himself actually wanted to go to israel and help drive those palestinians out of the country, there seemed to be a certain consensus about that whole radical jewish thing being a bit - distasteful? politically not so sound? well you all know. Now for satanism: i am not so dumb as to believe that zorn likes to drink the blood of virgins, but i know that there are people who do practise "sex magick" including abuse of all kinds. and that's the first reason i'm annoyed by the theme of "IAO" the same way people were annoyed by that radical jewish culture thing. artistically, i think Frankco got it right: >On the subject of Zorn's supposedly unexpected endorsement of Aleister Crowley and Kenneth Anger, >I can only say that, to me, this was rather expected instead of unexpected. that's the second reason for my being annoyed. it seems zorn just keeps walking these well known paths... >Sorta like that cannibalism stuff that happens down to the Catholic >outlet every Sunday morning, right? Whole buncha flesh-eaters & >blood-drinkers down there, if you believe the script. well at least they keep eating the same person, and one that actually told them to do so. mind the difference! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:46:03 -0400 From: "patbor" <patbor@buzzle.com> Subject: Tom Cora Any information (bio, disco.phy...) about TOM CORA is well accepted. And recommendations for Tzadik's Hallelujah, Anyway - Remembering Tom Cora. Thank You Patb - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:50:35 EDT From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Pop Song In a message dated 5/6/02 11:41:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wlt4@mindspring.com writes: ...referring to this, by an unknown poster... << >Usually, we think of 'pop' as 'popular music,' >or music that tops the music charts. Which would also include music that's stylistically similar since most pop music isn't actually popular in terms of sales. >> This topic has been brought up many times on the RMP newsgroup. I have to agree with the above in that "pop" and "popular" music are two entirely different genres these days. When I think of "pop", I think of music on labels like Minty Fresh and Darla, and groups/artists like Jellyfish, Spongetones, and Jason Faulkner...ones that are a long way from "popular". - -- np: Deus ex Machina- Cinque (the great new album on Cuneiform by Italy's best prog band. An incredible fusion of _Jet Lag_ , _Tilt_ , and _Crac!_ (you closet proggers know what I'm talking about...)) =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 16:16:24 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Tom Cora Hello, >Any information (bio, disco.phy...) > >about TOM CORA > >is well accepted. A bit of info: http://www.rarefaction.com/Cora.html Discography: http://nyds-exp-discogs.covers.de/cora.htm Get the two Roof CDs. Some of my favorite music. Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:42:17 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= <efrendv@yahoo.es> Subject: Tim Sparks? Hi, Maybe it was mentioned here before but did anyone have the chance to listen to the new Tim Sparks' album on Tzadik? It's really promising but you never know. Thanks in advance Best, EfrΘn del Valle _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicaci≤n instantßnea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 10:20:37 -0700 From: "Benito Vergara" <bvergara@sfsu.edu> Subject: RE: satanism > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Thorsten Kr=E4m= er > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:17 AM > 24. The best blood is of the moon, monthly: then the fresh blood > of a child, > or dropping from the host of heaven It's menstrual blood and semen (probably preferably obtained through some higher-degree tantric ritual). Later, Ben http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ/AIM: thewilyfilipino / Yahoo!: sunny70 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:24:58 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com> Subject: Napalm Death DVD Hello, Has anybody seen the new Napalm Death DVD??? I know there is a video flating around somewhere of old concerts including Mick Harris banging on the drums, and I'm wondering if that concert is on here has well.... Anybody know?? I never cared for Napalm Death without Harris, so just wanna check before I fork out the cash.... Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worldÆs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #901 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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