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Zorn List Digest Friday, January 11 2002 Volume 03 : Number 678
In this issue:
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Re: Favourite Erstwhile Release
FWD: Pete Cosey Sighting (Laswell Content)
re: Berne
Re: Berne
[promo] improv this weekend in Brooklyn and Boston
Re: Favourite Erstwhile Release
new cobra line up
RE: Upcoming Zappa compilation?
best of 2001 list
Re: Favo(u)rite Erstwhile Release
Re: best of 2001 list
Re: best of 2001 list
noise/jazz rec's
Re: noise/jazz rec's
RE: Favo(u)rite Erstwhile Release
fwd: Sony Legacy klezmer reissues
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:55:13 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Favourite Erstwhile Release
In a message dated 1/10/02 5:44:24 AM, arock01@postoffice.csu.edu.au writes:
<< Anyone like to comment on what they feel is their favourite release from
the Erstwhile catalogue? I would be particularly interested to hear what Jon
Abbey's personal fave is. >>
hmm, ok, I'll give it a shot. first of all, thanks to all for your kind
words, they're nice to read.
obviously my relationship with these discs is very different from other
people's, in that I usually listen to them (or parts of them, or other
material from the sessions) maybe 25-50 times before they're released, and
not very much after that. my personal fave right now is the
MIMEO/Tilbury-Hands of Caravaggio, which is as remarkable as I could have
hoped for, and I'd guess when I hear the Polwechsel/Fennesz material that was
recorded earlier this week, that it'll be right up there.
anyway, since that's kind of a copout answer, the projects I've released so
far that I'm most proud of, both for musical and extramusical reasons, are
Schnee, do, dach and Weather Sky in chronological order of release. it's
important to me to document a wide range of musicians and approaches within
this field, and I couldn't be happier with the range and quality of my
catalog so far, especially my 2001 releases, but the above four are the ones
that resonate the deepest for me.
Scott said:
<<each record really seems to move beyond technique, genre, or expectation to
develop its
own sound-world>>
perceptive and dead on as usual, Scott. this is a quality I value very highly
when selecting projects to release.
I'm looking forward to seeing more Erst fave lists, I know there's some more
completists out there...
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 03:02:11 -0500
From: "Steven Popkin" <spopkin@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: FWD: Pete Cosey Sighting (Laswell Content)
From another list:
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:34:51 +0000
From: Philip Clarkson <phil@CLARKSONP.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Pete Cosey spotted
I just got hold of a new-ish Japanese CD by saxophonist Akira Sakata called
"Fisherman's.com" & was amazed to see that it features Pete Cosey on its 4
tracks. He is unmistakable - playing swathes of fuzzy wah-wah guitar across
the music. Of course, the man behind all this is the ubiquitous Bill
Laswell, who produces & plays his trademark funk basslines across the whole
thing. It is very much a typical Laswell production - if you like that
thing, you like it, if you don't, well...
Sakata sings gruffly in Japanese & bows his sax in his own idiosyncratic
style. Hamid Drake is on drums. It was recorded in Brooklyn at Laswell's
studio in 2000 & it's great to see Pete Cosey is back & playing strongly.
The CD is out on the Starlets' / Dogtail label EOCD-0002 distributed by
Lastrum Corporation / Jasrac - I tracked it down via gemm.com.
Best,
Stephen "DJ Steve" Popkin
Http://home.nyc.rr.com/djsteve
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:17:00 -0800
From: "D Dvb" <d_dvb@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: Berne
In that Vancouver workshop Will was mentioning (what up, WY? didn't know if
you were still in SF), Berne basically said the key to good improvising was
a nice hotel room, some coffee and some other smart-ass remarks. He also
said that anyone who says he practices 8 hours a day is either lying or has
no way to communicate any ideas to the world at large.
On a more informative note, he also mentioned that he comes up with
melodies/heads/whatever so that way the band will have a base to improvise
off of. Also put over how important the players are. I don't really
remember too much...something about not being able to get Hemphill's Dogon
AD and other stuff....he played more than talked.
BTW, does anyone have a copy of the "Put Blood in the Music" documentary on
the NY music scene that they might be willing to make a copy of? I'm
willing to trade/pay something reasonable in return...
- --davy
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- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:38:16 -0800
From: Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Berne
> In that Vancouver workshop Will was mentioning (what up, WY? didn't know if
> you were still in SF), Berne basically said the key to good improvising was
> a nice hotel room, some coffee and some other smart-ass remarks. He also
> said that anyone who says he practices 8 hours a day is either lying or has
> no way to communicate any ideas to the world at large.
That's kind of a loaded, smart-ass statement, and I think it's irresponsible
of someline like Tim to say that. There are a lot of fanatical pracitcers
who communicate more than adequately (I'm thinkin' Uri Caine for starters).
But the hotel room and the coffee ARE important.
skip heller
http://www.skipheller.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:30:19 -0500
From: "Jesse Kudler" <jkudler@mail.wesleyan.edu>
Subject: [promo] improv this weekend in Brooklyn and Boston
Hello all. Apologies for the crossposting and blatant self-promotion. And
geographically-limited content. And last-minute notice. Ahem.
I'll be playing two shows this weekend and would love to have you if you're
not doing anything else (I realize I am competing with the last ever weekend
of "The Fantasticks" in NY (!)). I will be playing guitar and electronics
at both shows.
Fri, Jan. 11, I play solo (not exactly sure what I'm doing yet; probably
something noisy) at Local (aka Rock Star Bar) in Williamsburg, Brooklyn
with:
aluminum noise/cold electric fire
bigboote
the quickening (members of the fall in love and sunburned hand of the man)
351 Kent Ave., corner of S. 5th. 9:30. I play first.
Boston Show:
Sat., Jan. 12th.
This is Phil Collins, a MIMEO-esque big electronic improvisation ensemble
featuring myself, tapes, electronics, keys, synth, contrabass, laptops, etc.
Along with:
ANDREW NEUMANN - laptop, switches, sensors
CURTIS BAHN - sensor bass, electronics
8:30. Cambridge, MA. 312 Broadway (corner of Norfolk St.) Walking
distance from the Central Square T stop. www.zeitgeist-gallery.org
Thanks a lot,
Jesse
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:17:18 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: Favourite Erstwhile Release
At 01:55 AM 1/11/02 EST, JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
>
>I'm looking forward to seeing more Erst fave lists, I know there's some more
>completists out there...
While I'm not one of Jon's completists (yet...), I'd like to add Forlorn
Green to the list of usual suspects (Weather Sky, Schnee, Do, Voyelle,
etc). I'm *really* looking forward to MIMEO and Tilbury, which I
anticipate to join the select dozen or so at the top. I also have to
mention that Weather Sky was my first introduction to Keith Rowe's non-AMM
work, and that as a result I've pursued several other of his solo and other
releases, all of which are still opening new sound worlds for me.
And the plus side of the label is that even the releases that I don't like
as well are still challenging and interesting, and that the label has moved
to a trusted position so that I'm willing to try anything Jon puts out.
This position is inevitably reserved for labels with relatively small
outputs, because sooner or later there's a real clunker, but it hasn't
happened yet with Erstwhile.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:16:43 +0000
From: "Ricardo Jorge" <ricardoviseu@hotmail.com>
Subject: new cobra line up
check out the line up, sounds great!!!!
John Zorn, Susie Ibarra, Cyro Baptista, Derek Bailey, Erik Friedlander,
Mark Feldman,
Jennifer Choi, Sylvie Courvoisier, Jamie Saft, Ikue Mori, Annie Gosfield,
Marcus Rojas, Josh Roseman, Mark Dresser, Trevor Dunn
- --
_________________________________________________________________
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http://explorer.msn.com.br
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:41:08 +0100
From: "Franz Fuchs" <f.fuchs@gmx.net>
Subject: RE: Upcoming Zappa compilation?
> From: Skip Heller
>
> > Please do tell when this will be released ;-)
>
> Hopefully, by early spring. We're having to having to help
> labels generate
> new paperwork for a few artists, plus the Quicktime movie,
Is the movie Zappa's appearance on the Steve Allen show?
> One nice thing I can tell you in advance -- he have STEREO
> versions (totally
> unreleased) of all the stuff that came out on Original Sound,
> and they're
> not recreated stereo. They're FZ's own.
Great!
Maybe we'll have another new record in the near future, as there has
been talk about a "February release" from the Zappa Family Trust, which
could be (the rumours are vague) a 1976 Australian concert.
> BTW -- Franz -- how did you find out about this so quickly?
Just good luck ;-) I took a look at your homepage and found - among
other interesting things - the Zappa article.
Regards
Franz Fuchs
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:49:00 -0500
From: "Sean Westergaard" <seawes@allmusic.com>
Subject: best of 2001 list
better late than never...
not ranked in any way
BEST OF 2001
John Zorn - the Gift
Zorn puts on his Martin Denny hat for one of his best and most listenable
sessions
James Blood Ulmer - Memphis Blood: The Sun Sessions
Ulmer plays the blues with Vernon Reid
Granfaloon Bus Exploded View -
another great one from this SF band vaguely americana with fantastic,
often oblique lyrics
Zoot Horn Rollo We Saw a Bozo Under the Sea
solo debut by former Magic Band member. all instrumental He's still got
it
Sex mob does bond
sex mob. need I say more?
Mike Keneally Wooden Smoke & Wooden Smoke Asleep
newfound "maturity" (i hate that word) from former FZ guitarist. beautiful
& largely acoustic
Steve Reich - Triple Quartet
still the king of good minimalism
The Word ûThe Word
Praise Gawd! gospel pedal steel instros with John Medeski
Wilco-Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
some of the most amazing production touches ever
Ori Kaplan Percussion Ensemble-Gongol
great new jazz with Susie Ibarra with an almost Alice Coltrane/Impulse vibe
Fred Anderson Trio - On the Run: live At The Velvet Lounge
The tenor legend with Hamid Drake on drums amazing
Bullfrog- bullfrog
loose and effortless funk from Kid Koala's band
ICP orchestra- Oh my Dog
Dutch Jazz Wackos strike again
Jah Wobble/Bill Laswell, Radioaxiom
Laswell and Wobble dubbing it up
King Crimson ûLive in Mainz, 1974
Yow!
Simian û Chemistry is What We Are
cool psychedelic rock
VA- Love, Peace & Poetry, Vol. 4: Japanese Psychedelic Music
insane vintage psychedelic rock
John Zorn ûMasada Live at Tonic 2001
Best jazz band in the land?
Frank Black û Dog in the Sand
the first Frank Black album i could listen to in one sitting
The Original Brothers and Sisters of Love - H.O.M.E.S., Vol. 1
homegrown appalachian prog-rock sea-shanties
Circulatory System - Circulatory System
more psychedelia from William Cullen Hart, Ex-Olivia Tremor Control
Richard Lloyd - Cover Doesn't matter
former/current Television Guitarist can still tear it up
REISSUES
John Mclaughlin - Devotion
with Larry Young & Buddy Miles the best Acid Rock album ever?
Miles Davis û Complete In a Silent Way sessions
bliss
Sun Ra - Nuclear War
fantastic album, thought lost to the ages "It's a motherfucker, don't you
know. When they push that button, your ass has got to go!"
X û Los Angeles
X û Wild Gift
X û Under the Big Black Sun
sparkling remasters from one of America's greatest bands
George Harrison - All things Must Pass
this made the list even before he died.
Blondie ûParallel Line
Blondie û Eat to the Beat
great albums from a great band (if you define them by Heart of Glass, think
again)
Joe Jackson û Look Sharp
Joe Jackson- IÆm the Man
Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True [Expanded]
Give me these guys' early snotty years anytime
King Crimson-Beat
King Crimson- Discipline
King Crimson û Starless and Bible Black
unbelieveable remastered sound and those mini LP packages!
XTC ûDrums & Wires
XTC- GO2
XTC- English Settlement
XTC- Black Sea
Dukes of Stratosphear û Chips from the Chocolate Fireball
these remasters make the old ones sound REALLY bad had to get 'em from UK
Fela Kuti ûZombie
classic Fela with live bonus tracks
Shuggy Otis û Inspiration Information
perhaps a bit over-rated, but cool soul all the same
Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight..And How It Got There
Robin's finest moment
Love û Forever Changes [Expanded]
classic. killer.
Asha Bhosle - Best of Asha Bosle: The Golden Voice of Bollywood
with around 20,000 songs to her credit, best of seems arbitrary, but it's
great fun all the same
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:18:34 -0500
From: "Jesse Kudler" <jkudler@mail.wesleyan.edu>
Subject: Re: Favo(u)rite Erstwhile Release
Just to quickly add my two cents. . . I don't think anyone's really
mentioned Drumm and Tetreault's "Particles and Smears" yet, which shares
with many records that I end up liking over time an initial impenetrability.
What was pretty dense at first revealed itself to be really rich and complex
over time. I really appreciated how alien all the sounds and even methods
of interaction were, like Drumm and Tetreault totally just started from the
ground up. Perhaps it helps that I'm familiar enough with all of Drumm's
recordings to more or less be able to separate out his and Tetreault's
contributions, but "Particles and Smears" really impresses me with a totally
new and honest form of interaction that I don't quite see in Drumm's other
records, which maybe hold their cards a bit less close to their chests (and
I don't mean that pejoratively; I really like the duos with Taku Sugimoto,
for example, but they don't strike me as quite stretching like "Particles
and Smears" or Drumm's first solo record, for instance).
For what it's worth. . .
- -Jesse
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Favourite Erstwhile Release
> At 01:55 AM 1/11/02 EST, JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >I'm looking forward to seeing more Erst fave lists, I know there's some
more
> >completists out there...
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:20:25 -0800
From: "Rev. Floyd Errors" <keithmar@msn.com>
Subject: Re: best of 2001 list
>>>Zoot Horn Rollo We Saw a Bozo Under the Sea<<<
Do I need to try again on this one?
I was considering suing whoever I ordered this from because they
said it was so great.
I thought it was very, very, very unenjoyable. Like Jeff Beck
meets Kenny G.
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:30:42 -0800
From: Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: best of 2001 list
>>>> Zoot Horn Rollo We Saw a Bozo Under the Sea<<<
>
> Do I need to try again on this one?
>
> I was considering suing whoever I ordered this from because they
> said it was so great.
>
> I thought it was very, very, very unenjoyable. Like Jeff Beck
> meets Kenny G.
>
>
>
> -
>
Yeah, but his book, LUNAR NOTES, was great. Like the ELVIS: WHAT HAPPENED?
of the Beefheart set.
skip heller
http://www.skipheller.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:14:59 -0800 (PST)
From: smhalabi@ucdavis.edu
Subject: noise/jazz rec's
Hi folks, i just joined this list. sorry to bother you, i'm really getting
into freejazz, but more specifically, free jazz that integrates other
things (ie: not "pure" instrumental free jazz, but the hoots of milford
graves, and some of the weird distortion/filtering that i heard in some
ascension release, and other things..) i've really been enjoying your posts
and recommendations. are there any releases that jump out in your mind?
(besides the ones from the last couple of days) i really loved sonny
sharrock's reissued "black woman" album. i also really liked
griffin/burns/dionyso/crews "creation music" release (throat
singing/violin/bass clarinet/piano/drums). i also loved the haino/bailey
incus release from last year (great vocals!!). i'm excited about listening
to some of that tango/70's stuff you guys were talking about. yes, i
really like violins. i'm also into musique concrete and field recordings,
and international music etc..
if you've already talked about this at wits end before, let me know and
i'll dig through the archives
oh yes and how could i forget that awesome jon "smoke" tzadik recording!!
that is tops. oh yeah, i also really like randy yau's recordings.. ok i
keep remembering more and more, i think i should stop before this gets too
long..
sondra
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:32:31 -0800
From: Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: noise/jazz rec's
I'm strongly recommending Ellery Eskelin and Andrea Parkins GREEN BERMUDAS,
which is a saxophone/sampler duet. Ellery is a fantastic musician who could
probably be effective if he just played the notes, but he's above and
beyond. Definitely worth any thinking listener's time.
skip h
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:20:50 -0700
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" <M_WIRZBICKI@ColoradoCollege.edu>
Subject: RE: Favo(u)rite Erstwhile Release
i agree totally. I was skeptical at first but repeated listens revealed
more than I expected. I especially like listening to the album in full as
opposed to a few tracks at a time. The durations on this album seem
unusually short for an improv. record (something I might have found
frustrating). But here the track endings are appropriately placed IMO.
Matt
- -
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:32:27 -0500
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: fwd: Sony Legacy klezmer reissues
>APRIL 16
>LEGACY DEBUTS VINTAGE KLEZMER SERIES FROM AMERICA'S GREATEST ARCHIVE OF
UNTAPPED
>YIDDISH MUSIC, COLUMBIA RECORDS
>
>DAVE TARRAS - "Tanz!"
>* "Tanz!," recorded by the legendary klezmer clarinetist Dave Tarras in
1956,
>was this music's last great hurrah before the klezmer revival began in the
>1970s. A rare, out-of-print collectors' LP now digitally restored with bonus
>material from the original sessions.
>
>ABE SCHWARTZ - title to be determined
>* Abe Schwartz was the John Hammond and Phil Spector of klezmer music --
>producer, arranger, songwriter, band leader, and Columbia Records talent
scout
>-- in the early part of the Twentieth Century. This anthology collects
his most
>historical work.
>
>VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Avenue A to the Great White Way"
>* 2-CD set comprises the essentials of vocal and instrumental Yiddish
music in
>America after World War I by the original artists who made them famous.
The set
>traces the transitions of those artists and music from the Lower East Side to
>Broadway and worldwide popularity in the 1930s and '40s.
- -
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