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Zorn List Digest        Friday, January 4 2002        Volume 03 : Number 672



In this issue:
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       Re: All's Well That Is Welles?
       OT Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9lie?= in US (Year of the Snake faves)
       RE: Zorn/Chadbourne
       OT Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Am=E9lie?= in US]
       Re: Zorn/Chadbourne
       Re: OT Re: AmΘlie in US]
       Welles' best
       Re: OT Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Am=E9lie?= in US]
       Fwd: Re: Zorn/Chadbourne
       re:zorn/chad
       Fwd: re:zorn/chad
       mcphee/dalachinsky/brechtforum/january
       zornlistgalaxy
       Tops of 2001
       Re: Year of the Snake faves/Barbara
       Re: zornlistgalaxy
       Re: zornlistgalaxy

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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:05:26 -0500
From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: All's Well That Is Welles?

>I could seen some of this:a series of absolutely
>comical shorts about towns of Europe like Vienna or
>London,

This may be moving too far off topic but for anybody who cares:  This is
probably segments of Around the World with Orson Welles which was recently
released on US DVD.


>an spectacular short of Moby Dick with Orson
>reciting fragments from the novel,

Probably part of Welles' popular stage production but I didn't know any
film of it existed.


>a documentary film of Brazil,

It's All True, but Welles not only never completed this but never even got
to see the rushes (the footage was found shortly before his death and
edited by others).  In typical Welles fashion, parts of it stretch the idea
of documentary, mainly by being a recreation rather than direct documentation.

>and an incredible magic show (with the magician Welles obviously),

possibly the magic act from Follow the Boys which was a filming of portions
of a larger show he and the other Mercury Company actors did for soldiers
during the war (Marlene Dietrich was Welles' assistant, replacing Rita
Hayworth who her studio had forbidden from participating).


>and some strange tv shows.

There are lots of these later in his career, most notably the Dinesen
adaptation The Immortal Story.

LT

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Date:
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Carey)
Subject: OT Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9lie?= in US (Year of the Snake faves)

* duncan youngerman <[e-mail]>:
>Hi y'all, here's my list of Year of the Snake favorites
>(regardless of when they were released).

>"Le Fabuleux Destin d'Am=E9lie Poulain", Jean-Pierre Jeunet
>Incredibly creative post-Godard cinematography (don't pay
>attention to the sirupy U.S. marketing campaign)

Hi Duncan,

Just wanted to ask (anyone, really), since I think I read the above rig=
ht
(some text did not come through) ... what has Miramax done with "Am=E9l=
ie"
in the US, and how is it syrupy?  [Are you in the US or France?]  I'm i=
n
Canada, and haven't seen much of the campaigning done here, but I don't
normally pay attention to such things.

Jeunet (and Godard :) are faves of mine, and I'm an Audrey Tautou fan
from "Venus Beaut=E9 (institut)" and "Voyous, Voyelles" so I've seen th=
e
film 6 times (original & subtitled) since it debuted here last Sept. at
the Toronto Film Festival.  I keep telling friends to go see it, and
to buy the soundtrack.  I've followed Yann Tiersen since his track
w/ Claire Pichet for "La Vie R=EAv=E9e des Anges" (Dreamlife Of Angels)=
.
Definitely my top film of the year ...


- -Patrick


NP: Helena - "Azul"



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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:16:31 -0500
From: "josephneff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Zorn/Chadbourne

Hello,
     ....I like the duo album quite a bit. It's four tracks recorded at t=
wo
live shows circa 1980. The recordings fall in the non-jazz free-improv
sphere; nothing song-like occurs, though there is plenty of personality,
humor in particular. Silence is used very effectively. A racket is kicked=
 up
from time to time, but more often the twosome combine to generate a low-k=
ey
landscape of abstraction. Sometimes it isn't easy to tag just who is maki=
ng
what sound. It's quite a blast, IMHO.

     I remain...
     Joseph

     NP: Carlos Malcolm "Ska-Mania" CD
     NR: William Faulkner "As I Lay Dying"

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of efr=E9n del valle
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Zorn/Chadbourne


Hi,

I've had the Zorn/Chadbourne "In memory of Nikki
Arane" album in my hands countless times and haven't
decided to buy it yet. It's a good opportunity so,
please encourage me or viceversa. Is it worth the
money?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Efr=E9n del Valle
n.p: still "The book of heads" again and again.

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1904 18:19:19 +0100
From: duncan youngerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: OT Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Am=E9lie?= in US]

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Patrick Carey a *crit :

> * duncan youngerman <[e-mail]>:
> >Hi y'all, here's my list of Year of the Snake favorites
> >(regardless of when they were released).
>
> >"Le Fabuleux Destin d'AmΘlie Poulain", Jean-Pierre Jeunet
> >Incredibly creative post-Godard cinematography (don't pay
> >attention to the sirupy U.S. marketing campaign)
>
> Hi Duncan,
>
> Just wanted to ask (anyone, really), since I think I read the above right
> (some text did not come through) ... what has Miramax done with "AmΘlie"
> in the US, and how is it syrupy?  [Are you in the US or France?]  I'm in
> Canada, and haven't seen much of the campaigning done here, but I don't
> normally pay attention to such things.

I happen to be in France but I've read seen U.S.ads and reviews where the
film ( cutely retitled "Amelie from Montmartre") is made out to be this
harmless "magical" "feel-good" family entertainment designed to make you
forget Sept.11...
DY.

>
>
>
>


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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:12:14 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Gillham?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn/Chadbourne

efrΘn del valle <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I've had the Zorn/Chadbourne "In memory of Nikki
>Arane" album in my hands countless times and haven't
>decided to buy it yet. It's a good opportunity so,
>please encourage me or viceversa. Is it worth the
>money?

Well, if you like the plinky plonk, scratch, scrape,
shake, rattle, roll, ...silence.... bang, clatter,
squeak, pop, ...silence... gargle, crash, wallop,
smack, crack, ...silence... hubble, bubble, toil and
trouble, 3 frog's legs, 2 bat's wings of most early
Zorn, you can't go wrong with it at all.

I've got it, I like it.

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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:05:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=20Cain?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: AmΘlie in US]

> I happen to be in France but I've read seen U.S.ads
and reviews where the film ( cutely retitled "Amelie
from Montmartre") is made out to be this harmless
"magical" "feel-good" family entertainment designed to
make you forget Sept.11...DY. >

But, "amazing cinematography" aside, isn't this what
it is (excluding the September 11 bit)? This argument
has been made by critics here in the UK:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4270666,00.html

and the US:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0144/hoberman.php

Also (for those who didn't hear), 'Amelie' very much
"swept all before it" in its native country, before
some of the French press - Hoberman names the
'Liberation' newspaper, though I had read that the
first contentious article was published in 'Les
Inrockuptibles' magazine (Paris's 'Time Out', broadly
speaking ) - took strong issue with what it regarded
as the film's un-racially diverse depiction of the
racially diverse Montmartre area of Paris in which it
is set, prompting a fairly heated cultural /
sociological debate.

=====
www.info.net.nz/opprobrium

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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:34:52 GMT
From: Parry Gettelman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Welles' best

My favorite from Welles is "Chimes at Midnight," sometimes called
"Falstaff," his conflation of "Henry IV Parts I&II" w/ "Merry Wives of
Windsor."  The battle scene is just stunning -- not in the usual way of
battle scenes, but in eerily conveying the muddledness of war in general.
Welles was born to play Falstaff, of course, and John Gielgud is magnificent
as the old king.  Keith Baxter is riveting as young Hal -- a shame he never
made any other movies except for one really hokey thing w/ Elizabeth Taylor.
I gather he was mostly a stage actor.  The lovely Jeanne Moreau also makes a
fine Dol Tearsheet.  I haven't seen the movie in many years but scenes are
still very vivid in my mind.

My second favorite is "Touch of Evil."

Parry

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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 01:20:35 +0100
From: duncan youngerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Am=E9lie?= in US]

=3D?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=3D20Cain?=3D a =E9crit :

> > I happen to be in France but I've read seen U=2ES=2Eads
> and reviews where the film ( cutely retitled "Amelie
> from Montmartre") is made out to be this harmless
> "magical" "feel-good" family entertainment designed to
> make you forget Sept=2E11=2E=2E=2EDY=2E >
>
> But, "amazing cinematography" aside, isn't this what
> it is (excluding the September 11 bit)?

I don't think Jeunet's film has much to do with typical aseptisized
major studio production=2E
It's above all the personal vision of an artist=2E

DY=2E



>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:11:13 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Zorn/Chadbourne

Hi,

>
> Well, if you like the plinky plonk, scratch, scrape,
> shake, rattle, roll, ...silence.... bang, clatter,
> squeak, pop, ...silence... gargle, crash, wallop,
> smack, crack, ...silence... hubble, bubble, toil and
> trouble, 3 frog's legs, 2 bat's wings of most early
> Zorn, you can't go wrong with it at all.

Very eloquent!! :-) Really, I'll go for it. It's
always a good moment for crack, plunk, crash, pop,
crack, ... and so on.

Thanks a lot.

All the best,

EfrΘn

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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:10:37 +0000
From: "Kurt Gottschalk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:zorn/chad

i'm definitely a fan of both zorn and chadbourne, and have too much of both
of their stuff. 'nikki arcane' is hardly my fave by either. that said, it's
still pretty good. more like 'art of memory' than anything else i can think
of right away.

better zorn/chad things are the cd that came with the italian zorn book
(sonoma? someone will  help here), or any of the old recordings by 'the
chadbournes' which you can get directly from the doctor at
http://www.roanoke.infi.net/~chadnc/HouseOfChadula/EugeneHome.html
zorn's solo on 'octopus garden' is a must.

wow, i'm sounding awfully fanboy today. maybe i should have used some bad
words or something...

kurt

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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:46:31 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: re:zorn/chad

Hi Kurt and everyone,

>
> better zorn/chad things are the cd that came with
> the italian zorn book
> (sonoma? someone will  help here),

You mean Materiali Sonori. But that's pretty harsh
material, IMHO. I can't stand the whole album, mainly
due to the sound quality of those old recordings.

Thanks a lot.

Best,

EfrΘn

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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:41:45 +0000
From: "Kurt Gottschalk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: mcphee/dalachinsky/brechtforum/january

>nEUES kABARETT @ tHE bRECHT fORUM
>presents
>Joe McPhee & Steve Dalachinsky
>
>Sat. Jan 12
>9pm
>
>Joe McPhee first emerged on the creative jazz and new music scene in the
>late 1960s and early 1970s and has been a deeply emotional composer,
>improvisor and multi-instrumentalist as well as a thoughtful conceptualist
>and theoretician.
>Born on November 3, 1939, in Miami, Florida, McPhee first began playing
>the trumpet at age 8. McPhee continued on that instrument through high
>school and then in a U.S. Army band stationed in Germany; during his army
>stint he was first introduced to traditional jazz. Clifford Thornton's
>Freedom and Unity, released on the Third World label in 1967, is the first
>recording on which McPhee appears. In 1968 he began playing the saxophone,
>and since then has investigated a wide range of instruments (including
>pocket trumpet, clarinet, valve trombone and piano), with active
>involvement in both acoustic and electronic music. With a career now
>spanning over 30 years and roughly 50 recordings, Joe McPhee has shown that
>emotional content and theoretical underpinnings are thoroughly compatible ù
>and in fact a critically important
>pairing ù in the world of creative improvised music.
>
>If it has happened in the New York jazz scene in the past 30 years, poet
>Steve Dalachinsky has seen it. But for the past 15 years Dalachinsky has
>been more than just an avid observer of the music, he has been performing
>with the musicians that inspire his poetry. Dalachinsky has performed his
>poetry in various contexts and circumstances related to the new jazz scene
>in New York including the annual Vision Festival, which he has emceed
>frequently
>over the the festival's four-year existence. He has had his poetry
>self-released and by small imprints and has also had his poetry serve to
>liner notes for such artists as Billy Bang and Roy Campbell.
>
>Saturday, January 12th, 2002
>9:00 PM
>$8
>at the Brecht Forum
>122 West 27th St. 10th Floor, Manhattan
>call 212-242-2401 for day-of-event info
>1/9 to 28th; C/E to 23rd; F to 23rd; 6 to 28th; N/R to 28th

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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:38:39 +0100
From: Rob Allaert <[e-mail]>
Subject: zornlistgalaxy

Time to share. We're back on:

http://www.audiogalaxy.com/groups/group.php?&gID=260297

Who will be first member ?

    greetings,
      Rob @ risk
        np: Sting


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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:27:54 -0600
From: "Robert A. Pleshar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tops of 2001

Well, since it's the season for top 10 or whatever lists, I guess I'll
throw mine in for what little it's worth, not that I bought a ton of new
releases this year.

Music (new):
Thai Elephant Orchestra
Dave Douglas - Witness
various - Banda Sinaloense (Mexican Brass bands from the 50s-60s)
Henry Threadgill Zooid - Up Popped the Two Lips
Marc Ribot - Saints
the Ex - Dizzy Spells
Vandermark 5 - Acoustic Machine
Bill Frisell - Blues Dream
Brotzmann - Fuck de Boere
Slayer - God Hates Us All

Music (reissues):
All the Sun Ra on Evidence
many of the Ethiopiques discs
Rova - As Was

Books:
It seems like most of the books I read this year dealt with music,
mathematics and mental illness (sometimes one, sometimes a combination).
Note that I have no idea when these were actually published. Highlights were:
Arcana - Zorn (ed.)
Prozac Nation - Lauren Selter
The Nothing that Is - a history of Zero
Culture & Spontenaiety
that Lee Perry bio
Zero

If anyone wants the authors or more info let me know

Movies:
Ghost World
Memento

TV:
Junkyard Wars
CSI (the funniest show on television)!

Party on,
Rob


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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 08:27:04 +0100
From: duncan youngerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Year of the Snake faves/Barbara

Ben,
"Septembre" is actually on "vol=2E4, (G=F6ttingen)1964-66" , which would be =
a fine
place to start with Barbara=2E It contains "G=F6ttingen" and "Le mal de vivr=
e",
maybe her best 2 songs IMHO, along with many other great ones=2E

Otherwise, there's a "best of" on Polygram's "Master Serie"=2E Vol=2E1  cove=
rs all
the 60's (incl=2E the 2 songs mentioned above) and is the one to get (her la=
ter
work is not on the same level IMHO)=2E That's maybe the best intro to Barbar=
a=2E
100% great stuff, starting with her grandiose pop hit "L'Aigle noir"=2E

Best,
DY=2E

Ben Axelrad a =E9crit :

> Where would you recommend starting with Barbara?  I've been eyeing vol 3
> ever since hearing her song "Septembre" in Francois Ozon's "Under the Sand=
=2E"
>
>
>
>
> -


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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:10:40 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: zornlistgalaxy

At 10:38 PM 1/4/02 +0100, Rob Allaert wrote:
>Time to share. We're back on:

Any idea why the previous one was cancelled?
- --

Caleb Deupree
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:34:43 +0100
From: Rob Allaert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: zornlistgalaxy

It seems all or many groups were cancelled. Bad programming on part of
Audio Galaxy.

Caleb T. Deupree wrote:

> Any idea why the previous one was cancelled?


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