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Zorn List Digest      Saturday, December 22 2001      Volume 03 : Number 662



In this issue:
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       Re: Guitar Player
       Best of 2001
       Re: Lombardo tours with Slayer
       Prince
       RE: Brant/Varese/Villa-Lobos/Piazzolla
       RE: Prince
       RE: Iron Path
       RE: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH
       RE: Sharrock/Iron Path
       Re: Prince
       RE: Prince
       Re: Best of 2001
       King Crimson / Sonny Sharrock
       Re: Prince
       RE: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:54:48
From: "William York" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Guitar Player

>>I also read in a great, very in-depth interview with
>>Sharrock in Guitar Player magazine (!)

>No need for exclamation or surprise on my part- I've thought that, up
> >until a few years ago, Guitar Player was a great magazine that really
> >seemed to make it a point to cover avant-garde and experimental guitar
>music. Their 30th anniversary issue contained 30 short articles on
> >ground-breaking guitarists, and Keith Rowe and Derek Bailey were >among
>many other avant-gardists. Now the magazine is more typical (due to a few
>obviously influential staff leaving), but is still more >diverse than many
>others- although I don't subscribe anymore.

Actually that is a good point. I guess I was mainly surprised at exactly how
in-depth that article was. Actually the Sharrock article, as well as the 30
Most Radical Guitarists issue you mentioned, had a big impact on my tastes
as a late teenager (eventually leading to Zorn, actually, I think).

But you're right, they have gotten more standard, from what I can tell by
looking through the magazine racks ...

WY

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:21:00 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Best of 2001

Long winded, as usual... the best of the 450 some-odd recordings that joined
my collection this year. Oddly, little Bailey, no King Crimson save BPM&M
and Giles, Giles & Fripp, and no Cecil Taylor. And if only a few of the
recent Erstwhiles appear here, it's because I'm still hard at work on the
others... ;-)

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

NEW RECORDINGS/REISSUES

John Adams: El Nino (Nonesuch)
Derek Bailey & Eddie Prevost: Ore (Arrival)
Cecilia Bartoli: Dreams & Fables - Gluck Italian Arias (Decca)
Tim Berne: The Shell Game (Thirsty Ear)
BPM&M: XtraKcts & ArtifaKcts (Papa Bear)
John Butcher: Fixations (14) (Emanem)
Cannibal Ox: The Cold Vein (Def Jux)
Baikida Carroll: Marionettes on a High Wire (OmniTone)
Alex Cline: The Constant Flame (Cryptogramophone)
Nels Cline: Destroy All Nels Cline (Atavistic)
Graham Connah: Because of Wayne / The Only Song We Know (Evander)
Marilyn Crispell: Amaryllis (ECM)
Cyrille/Dresser/Ehrlich: C/D/E (Jazz Magnet)
Djam Karet: New Dark Age (Cuneiform)
Dave Douglas: Witness (RCA Victor)
Marty Ehrlich: Song (Enja)
Emperor: Prometheus: The Discipline of Fire and Demise (Candlelight)
Morton Feldman: Piano and String Quartet (hatNOWart)
Morton Feldman: String Quartet (II) (hatNOWart)
Gerald Finzi: Cello Concerto (Naxos)
Graham Fitkin: Granite; Ironic (GFR)
Giles, Giles & Fripp: Metaphormosis (Tenth Planet)
God Forbid: Determination (Century Media)
Osvaldo Golijov: La Pasion Segun San Marcos (Hanssler)
Dennis Gonzalez: Yells at Eels (daagnim)
Barry Guy: Inscape-Tableaux (Intakt)
Rich Halley: Coyotes in the City (Louie)
Karl Amadeus Hartmann; Bela Bartok: String Quartets (ECM)
Hans Werner Henze: Three Symphonic Etudes (Wergo)
Isis: SGNL>05 (Neurot)
Jaguares: Cuando la Sangre Galopa (RCA Latin)
Leos Janacek: A Recollection (ECM)
Kataklysm: Epic - The Poetry of War (Nuclear Blast)
Greg Kelley & Jason Lescalleet: Forlorn Green (Erstwhile)
Phil Kline: Unsilent Night (Cantaloupe)
Steuart Liebig: Pomegranite (Cryptogramophone)
Gyorgy Ligeti: The Ligeti Project I (Teldec)
Joe McPhee: Underground Railroad; Trinity (Atavistic); on tour...
toronto/rochester (Cadnce)
Olivier Messiaen: Turangalila-Symphony (Naxos)
Matt Moran's Sideshow: Songs of Charles Ives (CRI Blueshift)
Napalm Death: Enemy of the Music Business (Spitfire)
Nelly: Country Grammar (Fo'Reel)
Opeth: Blackwater Park (Koch)
John Oswald: plunderphonics 69/96 (Fony)
Propagandhi: Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (Fat Wreck Chords)
Radiohead: Amnesiac (Capitol)
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade (Telarc)
Esa-Pekka Salonen: LA Variations (Sony Classical)
Arnold Schoenberg: Piano Concerto - Mitsuko Uchida, Cleveland Orch/Boulez
(Philips)
Matt Shipp: Matthew Shipp's New Orbit (Thirsty Ear)
Sigh: Imaginary Sonicscape (Century Media)
Stilluppsteypa & TV Pow: We Are Everyone in the Room (Erstwhile)
Ralph Vaughan Williams: String Quartets (Naxos)
Wu-Tang Clan: Iron Flag (Loud)
Various: Folks, He Sure Do Pull Some Bow! (Old Hat)
Various: Afro-Rock, Volume One (Kona)
Various: Kurt Masur at the New York Philharmonic (New York Philharmonic
Editions)
Original Soundtrack: Hedwig and the Angry Inch (Hybrid)

BELATED DISCOVERIES

Black Sabbath: albums 1-6 (Warner Bros./Castle)
Cave In: all (Hydra Head)
Coalesce: 0:12 Revolution in Just Listening (Relapse)
Dafeldecker/Kurzmann/Fennesz/O'Rourke/Drumm/Siewert: ST (Charizma)
Emperor: Anthems to the Welkin at Night (Century Black)
Fennesz/O'Rourke/Rehberg: The Magic Sound of Fenno'berg (Mego)
The Haunted: The Haunted Made Me Do It (Earache)
I.S.O.: I.S.O. (Alcohol)
Led Zeppelin: Physical Grafiti (Swan Song)
James MacMillan: Epiclesis; Ninian (Bis)
Melvins: various (Atlantic & Ipecac)
Morbid Angel: Entangled in Chaos, Formulas Fatal to the Flesh, Gateways to
Annihilation (Earache)
Giacinto Scelsi: Aion; Pfhat; Konx-Om-Pax (Accord)
Valentin Silvestrov: Symphony No. 5; Postludium (Sony Classical)
Slayer: Reign in Blood (American)
Antonio Vivaldi: The Four Seasons - Guiliano Carmignola, Venice Baroque
Orchestra (Sony Classical)
Iannis Xenakis: Chamber Music 1955-1990 (Montaigne/Naive)

LIVE

Tony Malaby & Tom Rainey, Internet CafΘ, Feb.
Ellery Eskelin with Andrea Parkins and Jim Black, Knitting Factory, Mar.
Brooklyn Philharmonic/Robert Spano, BAM, Apr.
The Haunted, Lamb of God, Diecast and Noctuary, CBGB, Apr.
Napalm Death, Soilent Green, Isis, CBGB, Jun.
Keith Jarrett, Gary Peacock & Jack DeJohnette, Carnegie Hall, Jun.
Cheikha Rimitti and Sussan Deyhim, Central Park SummerStage, Jun.
Roxy Music with Rufus Wainwright, The Theater at Madison Square Garden, Jul.
Berg: Wozzeck, Metropolitan Opera, Oct.
Mozart: Idomeneo, Metropolitan Opera, Oct.
Evelyn Glennie & National Symphony Orchestra, Carnegie Hall, Oct.
Marilyn Nonken (complete Schoenberg piano works), Miller Theatre, Nov.
Jaguares, Hammerstein Ballroom, Nov.
Strauss: Arabella, Metropolitan Opera, Nov.
Masada and the Absolute Ensemble, Miller Theatre, Nov.
Pierre-Laurent Aimard, Carnegie Hall, Dec.
Morbid Angel, The World, Dec.

BOOKS

Ken Saro-Wiwa: Sozaboy
Edward Galeano: Memory of Fire Trilogy
Pramoedya Ananta Toer: Buru Quartet
Arundati Roy: The God of Small Things
Philip K. Dick: The Man in the High Castle
Haruki Murakami: South of the Border, West of the Sun; Sputnik Sweetheart;
Norwegian Wood
Dave Eggers: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius
Richard Wright: Native Son
Philip Roth: American Pastoral; I Married a Communist
Herman Melville: Moby-Dick
F. Scott Fitzgerald: The Great Gatsby
C.S. Lewis: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:51:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lombardo tours with Slayer

Yeah, I know. His profile has been so low recently
that many folks think he's dead.

K



- --- Skip Heller <[e-mail]> wrote:
> VH1-says: Original Slayer Drummer Dave Lombardo Back

> Gee, I was kind of hoping for Guy Lombardo.  He's
> having career troubles.



=====
Ken Waxman
[e-mail]
www.jazzword.com - Jazz/improv news, CD reviews and photos

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:31:29 -0500
From: "&c." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Prince

I know prince has been discussed on the list before so...What's the word on
his new album, The Rainbow Children?  What's so "controversial" about it?

Zach

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:56:11 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Brant/Varese/Villa-Lobos/Piazzolla

I was doubly lucky one weekend... 'Ionisation' one night, 'Deserts' the
next. The first was spectacular - everything I'd ever hoped from a live
performance of one of my all-time favorite works. The second, sadly, was
lackluster, marred by imprecise ensemble and a silly film by Bill Viola. Oh,
well, at least it included the electronic interludes.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of thomas
chatterton

>From: "serge dautricourt" <[e-mail]>

>It was a real treat to see "Deserts" live. . . truly a haunting
>masterpiece.

Wow, what a rare treat, to hear Deserts (or any Varese for that matter!)
live, one of the great works of the 21st century, along with Ameriques...


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:58:21 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Prince

Strikes me as a half-baked neo-soul outing. Oh, yeah, and it's a concept
album about the wee purple one's unique version of spirituality... I buy
almost everything he releases, and even I couldn't warm up to this one.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of &c.

I know prince has been discussed on the list before so...What's the word on
his new album, The Rainbow Children?  What's so "controversial" about it?


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:08:02 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Iron Path

I'll agree that 'Live in Japan' is probably the least of the live Last Exit
discs, but I still prefer it to 'Iron Path.' My dislike for the latter
simply stems from the things I described before - the soft focus recording,
the overproduction, the notion that it sounds to me like a Laswell disc with
ferocious sidemen somehow tamed. If they were described as "four big egos on
a stage," that's probably more or less the truth on evidence (though I've
never heard that accusation leveled at Sonny himself). But that's pretty
much exactly why I loved them - you had a good idea of what you were in for,
given the languages that the four worked in, and they often delivered.

But this is just my point of view, taking into account my personal
expectations of what Last Exit was - in my opinion, this album did not
deliver what I wanted. Fair enough - they weren't playing for my taste but
for their own. So you can really write this one off to personal
preference... I think Tony gave a particularly lucid counterexample that
pointed out the record's strengths, for anyone who cares to listen past my
own biases. Perhaps, given that, my previous statement that the disc should
be avoided by all but Laswellites may have been overstated by anyone else's
measure.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of [e-mail]

Steve Smith wrote re: Last Exit:

>The
>studio disc 'Iron Path' is to be avoided by all but the utmost Laswell
>fan
>(and those who own all the other discs), but aside from that, it's hard
>to
>go wrong.

Steve, I am usually in agreement with you, but "Iron Path" is the only one I
really like (I will admit to not hearing all of them in some time), & I
don't
see how you can recommend the extremely spotty Live In Japan (??) (The one
with "Big Boss Man" on it) over it.

 I am curious to know what about Iron Path you so dislike? It's not the big
"four big egos on a stage" (as someone I met who liked them & saw them play
once referred to them to me) like all of their other albums - all of which
are live recordings, right? -  but I think it's a better album for that.

and I'm not even a Laswell apologist!
:-)


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:12:46 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH

For the less enlightened... okay, for ME... does "Region 0" mean that the
disc will work on American machines? I can't keep the rules straight,
personally, and was boycotting the season one box because of the omission of
the pilot episode. If I can get the pilot - the REAL pilot, not the stupid
version with an ending - then I'd be quick to grab it and the box set as
well.

Oh, and if the answer to the first question is "yes," then the second
question is obviously "where do I find this?"

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Neil H. Enet

The TWIN PEAKS pilot was released in Hong Kong (Region 0), ELEPHANT
MAN was released just a few days ago, and yesterday the complete first
season of TWIN PEAKS (minus the pilot) was released.


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:20:20 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Sharrock/Iron Path

Bill, I know this wasn't directed to me personally, but I'd like to clarify
my own position. I don't think 'Iron Path' has Laswell's signature glossy
production (and "glossy" isn't a word I would use for the typical Laswell
production job in recent years, anyway). Rather, 'Iron Path' makes me feel
like I have cotton in my ears. That's a big part of the problem, actually.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Bill Ashline

I liked "Iron Path" but I
think it was badly recorded.  Those who think that it has Laswell's
signature glossy production must have cotton in their ears.


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:25:12 -0800
From: Skip Heller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Prince

> Strikes me as a half-baked neo-soul outing. Oh, yeah, and it's a concept
> album about the wee purple one's unique version of spirituality... I buy
> almost everything he releases, and even I couldn't warm up to this one.
>
> Steve Smith
> [e-mail]
>
Is there a Jehovah's Witness message interspersed thru it?
skip heller
http://www.skipheller.com



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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:23:19 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Prince

If there was, I wouldn't have recognized it as such...

SS

- -----Original Message-----
From: Skip Heller [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:25 PM

> Strikes me as a half-baked neo-soul outing. Oh, yeah, and it's a concept
> album about the wee purple one's unique version of spirituality... I buy
> almost everything he releases, and even I couldn't warm up to this one.
>
> Steve Smith
> [e-mail]
>
Is there a Jehovah's Witness message interspersed thru it?
skip heller
http://www.skipheller.com



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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:27:06 +0000
From: "thomas chatterton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Best of 2001

>From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>

>Oddly, little Bailey, no King Crimson...

What??? No Crimso! I may be somewhat partial on this one, as this concert
was recorded days after I first saw them, (and because of that experience
I've always favoured the Islands band), but the last KC Collectors Club
release Live In Detroit Dec.13 1971 is amazing, especially the Sailor's Tale
Cirkus Groon and In The Court of The B.B. King. Mel Collins shines
throughout. Ooops looks like the start of another list, so here's (some of!)
the rest:

Miles Davis: Complete In A Silent Way Sessions
Dave Douglas: Witness
Orlando Cachaito Lopez: Cachaito
Ennio Morricone: Il Gatto A Nove Code
Cyclobe: The Visitors
John Coltrane: Olatunji Concert
Sussan Deyhim: Turbulent
Miles Davis: It's About That Time (Fillmore West 3/7/70)
Igor Stravinsky: The Rite Of Spring (Gergiev/Kirov)
James Brown: Live At The Apollo V.2 Deluxe Edition
Kayhan Kalhor: Scattering Stars Like Dust
OOIOO: Feather Float
Fantomas: Directors Cut
Kaija Saariaho: Chateau De L'Ame
Various: Arabesque Zoudge 2
Ryoji Ikeda & Carsten Nikolai: Cyclo

In Memoriam: W.G. Sebald, writer (RIngs of Saturn, Vertigo , Austerlitz) d.
Dec. 14













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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:40:54 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: King Crimson / Sonny Sharrock

You are correct on all counts, and this one did belong on my list. I hadn't
entered this into my database (yes, I'm THAT big a dork), so when I ran a
query, naturally it didn't come up. It's a great, great set and perhaps the
best sound I've heard to date on an 'Islands' era date.

Linking this ever so slightly to another thread, I've always loved my boot
of a late 1971 show at the Academy of Music in New York - the 'Islands' band
burned with such intensity that at times it reminds me of nothing more
strongly than Last Exit. It was with some satisfaction, then, that I
recently read in the new KC bio 'In the Court of King Crimson' that Fripp
actually mentions Sonny Sharrock as a strong influence on his playing in
this particular period.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of thomas
chatterton

>Oddly, little Bailey, no King Crimson...

What??? No Crimso! I may be somewhat partial on this one, as this concert
was recorded days after I first saw them, (and because of that experience
I've always favoured the Islands band), but the last KC Collectors Club
release Live In Detroit Dec.13 1971 is amazing, especially the Sailor's Tale
Cirkus Groon and In The Court of The B.B. King. Mel Collins shines
throughout.


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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:09:06 -0500
From: "&c." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Prince

What's this about Jehovah's Witnesses?  Has our purple sex fiend turned
good?

Zach

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Skip Heller" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>; "'&c.'" <[e-mail]>; "'Zornlist'"
<[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Prince


Is there a Jehovah's Witness message interspersed thru it?
skip heller
http://www.skipheller.com




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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:16:03 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH

At 11:12 PM 12/22/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>For the less enlightened... okay, for ME... does "Region 0" mean that the
>disc will work on American machines?

Region 0 means it will work on all machines, all countries. Fyi, United States
is region 1.


>Oh, and if the answer to the first question is "yes," then the second
>question is obviously "where do I find this?"


I found it by searching at Poker
Industries:  http://www.pokerindustries.com/acatalog/

Now we know what to get Steve for Christmas!

James






>Steve Smith
>[e-mail]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail]
>[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Neil H. Enet
>
>The TWIN PEAKS pilot was released in Hong Kong (Region 0), ELEPHANT
>MAN was released just a few days ago, and yesterday the complete first
>season of TWIN PEAKS (minus the pilot) was released.
>
>
>-


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