<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I didn't buy much CDs released this year but here they are:<BR>
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In no particular order:<BR>
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JAMES - pleased to meet you<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000a0" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">Was it just me, or was this this about the dullest thing you've ever heard? I honestly wasn't expecting a lot out of it though, after how completely wonderful I thought Millionaires was - not that most Americans ever heard it, much less knew it existed. <BR>
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Dale.</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:40:55 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:23:13 -0400 "Neil H. Enet" wrote:
>
> TRICKY - blowback
Most people did not like that record and I can't understand why. It is defini-
tely more commercial that his previous projects, but most of the songs still
have this infectious groove that has become his trademark. Yes, I could live
without a couple songs, but the rest is quite amazing.
Another Tricky project is the ominous PRODUCT OF THE ENVIRONMENT (I have not
listened to anything that impressed me so much in a while). I don't know the
details of the story behind it, but (forgive my memory, or better, correct
me) it is about gangsters that Tricky would have visited in jail. He recorded
their comments on their lives and used that material with music in the
background (at least at a level behind usual). Not all songs are successful
but when it works (for me: 2nd and 3rd tracks), it is ominous and really
powerfull. I have not been able to see the record in the USA.
Patrice.
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:57:00 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
Subject: RE: James
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Was it just me, or was this this about the dullest thing you've ever heard?
I honestly wasn't expecting a lot out of it though, after how completely
wonderful I thought Millionaires was - not that most Americans ever heard
it, much less knew it existed.
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I actually like it very much, even more than MILLIONAIRES, although they are
both great albums. But to me, they both sound very similar, same vibe.
Anyway, be sure to check the new B-SIDES album, I understand it's a very
good compilation.
Neil H. Enet
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NP. FAITH NO MORE - album of the year
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:28:23 -0500
From: "Nirav Soni" <nirav@ink19.com>
Subject: Re: 2001 top 10 (and other stuff)
> Best CDRs:
> 1. Smell & Quim: Spaceshit (no label, no date... but I think it came out
in
> 2000, whatever)
If you dig the S+Q (who doesn't?) you really ought to check out the Milovan
Srdenovic solo lp on Freedom From. It's not noise at all, it's more like
demented outsider making-a-ruckus-with-toys and Tom Waits-with-the-shits
vocals. "I don't want no zulu-gynecologist" indeed.
> 2. Decaer Pinga/Runzelstirn & Gurgelstock: Omitting the troll (2xCDr)
> (chocolate monk)
I've only heard a comp track by R&G, probably a good 4-5 years ago, but I
remember being really thrown off by it. There were these big spaces,
interrupted by short outbursts of strangeness. It was on the "Release Your
Mind" triple cd comp...is this anything of a good intro to the band? Have
they done better work?
> Bastard Noise: Throne is Melting (helicopter)
Both Helicopter things you mentioned are very nice indeed. The last two
tracks on this are just lovely, lots of interesting textures, keeps an
undertone of menace without actually fully jumping at yr throat. Did you
check out the Sissy Spacek also on Helicopter? Lots of fun, short (5-10 secs
long) noise burts, some rockisms, some more digital stuff, great for random
playing.
My list'll pop it's little head up soon. Anyone else going to see the new
Jan Svankmajer film "Little Otik" tonight at Film Forum (all you new
yorkers.) Just bought my ticket online! I think it'll probably make it's way
onto my list.
http://www.filmforum.com/otik.html
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0151/hoberman.php (go about halfway down
the page)
Cheers!
Nirav (for whatever reason, really digging the grotesque as of late)
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:00:33 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
Subject: RE: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH
> TRICKY - blowback
Most people did not like that record and I can't understand why. It is
defini-
tely more commercial that his previous projects,
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That is totally true. After MAXINQUAYE everybody said that he was getting
too weird, then he comes up with BLOWBACK which feautures RED HOT CHILI
PEPPERS, ALANIS MORRISSETTE, CINDY LAUPER, the singer from LIVE, etc. (but
like you said it still sounds TRICKY) and people hate it too because it's
TOO commercial. What do people want?
TRICKY - a very misunderstood artist
Neil H. Enet
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:21:04 -0800
From: "Rev. Floyd Errors" <keithmar@msn.com>
Subject: What's Good For The Goose........
> Zorn's outlook on elitism is a sensitive issue. He does not
discriminate
> between high/low art and conservatory-trained/self-taught. Nor
should
> we, in my opinion.
Why should we then discriminate between high opinions ("Don't
discriminate between high/low art.") and low opinions ("Some forms
of art are better than others.")? Or do these rules about not
discriminating only apply to the value of art and not to the value
of opinions about art?
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:28:02 -0500
From: "Andrew" <ahorton@vt.edu>
Subject: Tricky
> That is totally true. After MAXINQUAYE everybody said that he was getting
> too weird, then he comes up with BLOWBACK which feautures RED HOT CHILI
> PEPPERS, ALANIS MORRISSETTE, CINDY LAUPER, the singer from LIVE, etc. (but
> like you said it still sounds TRICKY) and people hate it too because it's
> TOO commercial. What do people want?
Howabout a solid, quality album like "maxinquaye' or "pre-millenial
tension"?
"Juxtapose" and "Blowback" have been Tricky's attempts to "break into the
american MTV/mainstream market" and to "be more accessible to a radio
audience", by "getting rid of factors that people aren't comfortable
listening to." Where do I get these quotes? I interviewed Tricky this
summer, and could hardly believe what I was hearing!
The two aforementioned albums are horrible; they're just bad. "Juxtapose" is
suppsed to be his "accessible mainstream hip hop album" (of course, even as
such it falls flat) and "Blowback" was his attempt to appeal to the "adult
contemporary" market.
Fuck that. Tricky sold out- and I hate saying "sellout."
andrew
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:29:44 -0500
From: "Andrew" <ahorton@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH
> Another Tricky project is the ominous PRODUCT OF THE ENVIRONMENT (I have
not
> listened to anything that impressed me so much in a while). I don't know
the
> details of the story behind it, but (forgive my memory, or better, correct
> me) it is about gangsters that Tricky would have visited in jail. He
recorded
> their comments on their lives and used that material with music in the
> background (at least at a level behind usual). Not all songs are
successful
> but when it works (for me: 2nd and 3rd tracks), it is ominous and really
> powerfull. I have not been able to see the record in the USA.
I asked Tricky about "product of the environment" this summer, when I
interviewed him. He said that there was a big public outrage about it, and
it will not be released in the USA- something about "not being able to
profit from others' criminal actions."
andrew
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:25:33 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: Re: What's Good For The Goose........
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In a message dated 12/19/01 4:23:34 PM Central Standard Time,
keithmar@msn.com writes:
> Why should we then discriminate between high opinions ("Don't
> discriminate between high/low art.") and low opinions ("Some forms
> of art are better than others.")? Or do these rules about not
> discriminating only apply to the value of art and not to the value
> of opinions about art?
wow, what an intensely postmodern attitude. it's good to not have opinions
about anything.
kate.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 12/19/01 4:23:34 PM Central Standard Time, keithmar@msn.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why should we then discriminate between high opinions ("Don't<BR>
discriminate between high/low art.") and low opinions ("Some forms<BR>
of art are better than others.")? Or do these rules about not<BR>
discriminating only apply to the value of art and not to the value<BR>
of opinions about art?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">wow, what an intensely postmodern attitude. it's good to not have opinions about anything.<BR>
