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Zorn List Digest      Thursday, October 11 2001      Volume 03 : Number 591



In this issue:
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       RE: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)
       Re: Witness/Red/Santa Cruz
       Re: Witness
       Re: Masada live at Tonic
       Where's Lurie?
       Odp: Odp: The function of the studio
       Re: Masada live at Tonic
       Fetish 69 (NZC)
       Re: Where's Lurie?
       RE: Fetish 69 (NZC)
       Fwd: Re: Where's Lurie?
       Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)
       Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)
       Patrice & Masada
       Re: Patrice & Masada
       for detroit  zorn-listers
       Re: Patrice & Masada
       Re: Re: Where's Lurie?
       Where is Jazzland?
       LaMonte Young DVD
       Re: Where is Jazzland?
       Mengelberg

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:57:01 -0700
From: hatta <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)

I have this album, and I like it quite a bit.  It is a recording of a
pure improv show with Eyvind and Michael, playing just violin and
Double Bass.  It is not super out in a 'Sweetness of Sickness' way,
but it has none of the compositional structure of say 'Story of
Iceland' either.  No structure, and it varies quite a bit in
tonalities and volume.  You really get to hear Eyvind play, and
Michael too, whom I think is fantastic. That's really about all I can
say about it without listening to it again. I seem to recall I had
some difficulty getting it, but I do reccomend it.

- -Robert

>Has anyone got this album, is it likely that a lover of Kangs other recent
>works would like it?

>Case
- --
Todays Playlist (10.08.01):
Dave Douglas 'Witness'
The Bill Frisell Band 'Lookout for Hope'
Toshimura Nakamura / Sachiko M 'do'

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:34:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Witness/Red/Santa Cruz

In a message dated 10/8/01 2:09:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, efrendv@yahoo.e=
s=20
writes:

<<  Dan Frank Kuehn wrote:
 >
 > > Craig (he looks like some kind of redheaded mulatto) was astounding,
 >
 > Really? What do you look like?
 >
 > This is really an offensive, crass, and tasteless comment.
 >
 > Bob Sweet
=20
 Maybe my poor English makes me miss something but WHERE'S THE OFFENCE in
 "mulatto"?. I am Spanish, dark skin, dark hair, dark eyes. Should I feel
 offended by someone calling me "Latino" then?
=20
 Sorry, but I hate euphemisms. In my country, what was formerly known as
 GENOCIDE (genocidio) is called now ETHNIC CLEANING (limpieza =E9tnica). Thi=
s
 is just an example among many ridiculous others which I think should be
 avoided like the plague.
=20
 Best,
=20
 Efr=E9n del Valle
  >>
    What I found amusing was he was more offended by the term redheaded=20
mulatto than by  Chris Speed being called a retarded vagrant.  Which I guess=
=20
means if you're a white guy you can be called anything in the book without=20
the pc police being summoned.  By the way, the band was great in Santa Cruz=20
last night.  It was a real treat to see that much talent all assembled. =20
Besides all the beautiful noise going on, there was also very tasty melodic=20
solos going down as well, esp. by Speed, Taborn, and Saft.  I thought having=
=20
2 keyboards might be overkill, but they really complemented each other. I'm=20
glad Douglas likes playing California because not too many other NY bands=20
head out this way.  Cheers,
    John Threadgould
    np  Ta Eko Mo- Theo Jorgensmann 4tet

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 03:21:10 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Witness

I saw this band tonight at the Knitting Factory Hollywood and they were
absolutely killer.  As much as I am impressed with the album, they were much
better live.  They have much more of a electric Miles groove going than on
album (in large part due to the double-keyboards).  Craig Taborn was
fantastic on the Fender Rhodes, with Jamie Saft less so on electric piano,
although he also had his moments.  I dug Brad Jones' sound on electric
stand-up bass (don't think i've ever seen it before) and Mori's ambient
effects were pretty unique--much more prominent live than on album.  Douglas
sounded, as always, brilliant (although I'm much more impressed with him
live).  The only disappointment was Chris Speed, who seemed to be off doing
his own thing a bit too much.  This was only the band's fourth show together,
but they sounded great together.  I too am very glad Douglas enjoys playing
out west--this was his 3rd time playing the Knit Hollywood in the past year
(the others being his quartet and Charms of the Night Sky), and we are lucky
for it.

jeff caltabiano

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:37:34 +0200
From: patRice <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Masada live at Tonic

[e-mail] wrote:

> Recently got it.  I haven't yet had a chance to dig into the entire album,
> but here's what I think so far.  I know patRice doesn't dig the group so much
> and frequently voices that he wishes they would stop playing together so that
> zorn could get on with other projects.

Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else!
Never did I say such a thing.
I only ever expressed my wish that hopefully one day Zorn will release something
on CD featuring the Masada line-up with Marc Ribot!

patRice

np: Mr. Bungle, California
nr: sfa


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:32:04 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where's Lurie?

Hi,

I've wondering what the Lizards have been doing
lately.
Their last album I know of is "Queen of all Ears",
which, as far as I know, was recorded around 1993
although published much later. It means almost a
10-year studio inactivity. Have they been playing gigs
in the US?. I thought they might have disbanded.

Besides that, I think Lurie's last work was the
soundtrack for "Animal Factory". I didn't enjoy it
that much. Any word on Lurie's upcoming releases?

Thanks.

EfrΘn

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:24:48 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Odp: Odp: The function of the studio

> You may wanna listen again, just on the vibe of hearing how the
studio
> played a role in the construction of those records.

Given my recent phase of MD - fanatism, that may easily happen
(although the realse of in a silent way box may put that plan in
serious danger ;-) )



- -

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:34:37 -0400
From: Rick Lopez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Masada live at Tonic

on 01.10.10 3:37 AM, patRice at [e-mail] wrote:

> the Masada line-up with Marc Ribot!

Anyone out there have any info on the (single?) Masada performance w/ Susie
Ibarra???

Heard it happened, but no details... and sadly no tape.

Thanks,
RL
- ----------
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Discographies :
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 --Samuel Beckett Eulogy; Baseball & the 10,000 Things; Time Stops;
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- -

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:46:13 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fetish 69 (NZC)

Hello list,

    Has anyone listened to the FETISH 69 album DYSFUNCTIONS AND DRONES? I found
this on the AllMusicGuide website: "Techno fans who like their music more
disturbing than what Photek or Fatboy Slim have to offer should check it
out".

    Any commentaries?

Thanks

Neil H. Enet
- ------------
NP. THE SMITHS - Meat is Murder


- -

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:05:03 +0000
From: "Ricardo Jorge" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Where's Lurie?

They played in Portugal (Europe) πbout 3 months ago...

>
>Hi,
>
>I've wondering what the Lizards have been doing
>lately.
>Their last album I know of is "Queen of all Ears",
>which, as far as I know, was recorded around 1993
>although published much later. It means almost a
>10-year studio inactivity. Have they been playing gigs
>in the US?. I thought they might have disbanded.
>
>Besides that, I think Lurie's last work was the
>soundtrack for "Animal Factory". I didn't enjoy it
>that much. Any word on Lurie's upcoming releases?
>
>Thanks.
>
>EfrΘn
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Nokia Game ha comenzado
>Haz clic y disfruta de la nueva aventura multimedia de Nokia
>antes del 3 de noviembre.
>http://es.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html
>
>-
>


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:38:25 +0200
From: "Franz Fuchs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Fetish 69 (NZC)

> On Behalf Of Neil H. Enet
>
>     Has anyone listened to the FETISH 69 album DYSFUNCTIONS
> AND DRONES? I found
> this on the AllMusicGuide website: "Techno fans who like
> their music more
> disturbing than what Photek or Fatboy Slim have to offer
> should check it
> out".
>
>     Any commentaries?

Austrian label/distributor Trost http://www.trost.at offers information
under "Bands", a MP3 (under "Trost") of the Fetish 69/Spectre
collaboration and a link to another review
(http://www.monochrom.at/cracked/reviews/Rev%20Fetish69.htm).

Regards
Franz Fuchs


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:42:28 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Where's Lurie?


>
> They played in Portugal (Europe) πbout 3 months
> ago...

Shit! Really near home!!

do you remember the line-up?

Thanks
EfrΘn

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- -

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:06:57 -0500
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)

>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:24:53 +0930
>From: "Case" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)
>
>Has anyone got this album, is it likely that a lover of Kangs other recent
>works would like it?
>
>Case

It's mostly modal free jazz kinds of things, some more energetic and
out than others. It's good but it doesn't have the kind of stylistic
variety of most of the ensemble releases under Kang's own name.

In a similar but prettier and more restrained vein, folks may be
interested in a CD Eyvind recorded with Amir Koushkani, an Iranian
tar player living in Vancouver. The disc is called In the Path of
Love and contains four lengthy pieces in Iranian and Indian styles. I
picked it up at Wall of Sound in Seattle when I was there in August.
There's no address or other contact information on the disc, but
perhaps Tony Reif, who produced an earlier disc by Koushkani, may
know how to get it.

And Kang completists will be interested in a compilation I'd
forgotten all about produced by the Wing Luke Museum in Seattle
called a Bridge Home. This was part of the documentation for an
exhibition focusing on music in the lives of Pacific Asian Americans
and there's a roughly five minute track by Eyvind on it, a medley
called Summons/Lisa. Summons is a tune, Lisa is a multi-tracked noise
fest.

Bests,

Herb
- --
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Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio
<http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/>
[e-mail]

Mappings  P O Box 9369  Forth Wort, TX 76147

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:42:58 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Pequet)
Subject: Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus)

>player living in Vancouver. The disc is called In the Path of Love and
>contains four lengthy pieces in Iranian and Indian styles. I picked it up
>at Wall of Sound in Seattle when I was there in August. There's no address
>or other contact information on the disc, but perhaps Tony Reif, who
>produced an earlier disc by Koushkani, may know how to get it.

It is available from http://www.mahour.com


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:46:20 +0200
From: Rob Allaert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patrice & Masada

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>> patRice frequently voices that he wishes (Masada) would stop playing
>> together so that zorn could get on with other projects.
>
> Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else!
> Never did I say such a thing.

Oh yes you did !

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:00:51 -0700
From: William Crump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Patrice & Masada

As entertaining as this exchange has been, I don't see anyone straightening Rob out, so...

Patrice Roussel and patRice are two different people, both Zornlisters, but  different people nonetheless. Patrice Roussel is the one who
said that he didn't care for Masada, not patRice.

William "Buttinsky" Crump


Rob Allaert wrote:

>           patRice frequently voices that he wishes (Masada) would stop playing together so that zorn could get on with other projects.
>
>      Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else!
>      Never did I say such a thing.
>
> Oh yes you did !


- -

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:32:20 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: for detroit  zorn-listers

Dear Detroit Pals,
A friend and music colleague, Robert Reigle, tenor saxophone,
who edited the the Resonance ethnomusiciology issue with Evan Parker,
will be attending the SEM (Soc. for Ethnomusicology) Conference.
Oct 24-28.  If anyone is able to can recommend inexpensive,
safe lodgings near the Westin Hotel, Southfield, Detroit,
or host him for a day or two, or please write him or me offlist.

Thanks,
Steve Koenig  (NY) 718 332 6517  [e-mail]
Robert Reigle (LA) 714 953 0905  [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:50:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Patrice & Masada

In a message dated 10/10/01 3:02:51 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Patrice Roussel and patRice are two different people, both Zornlisters,
but  different people nonetheless. Patrice Roussel is the one who
said that he didn't care for Masada, not patRice. >>

shows how perceptive i am.  I've been reading this list for over a year now
and didn't know that.  So, which one has the improv group that uses charles
ives tunes as rep?

eriedell

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:39:18 +0200
From: "Viguier Benoit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: Where's Lurie?

Some news about John Lurie :
- - Plays in Mauro Refosco's "Seven Waves"
- - Recorded "African Swim & Manny and LO" (1999)
- - Recorded "LEGENDARY MARVIN PONTIAC" (2000)
- - Acting in "OZ" playing "Penders" in episode: "Famous Last Words" (2001░
- - Broke his ankle in May 2001

AmitiΘs
Benoεt

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De : efrΘn del valle <[e-mail]>
└ : [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Cc : [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date : mercredi 10 octobre 2001 18:42
Objet : Fwd: Re: Where's Lurie?


>
>>
>> They played in Portugal (Europe) πbout 3 months
>> ago...
>
>Shit! Really near home!!
>
>do you remember the line-up?
>
>Thanks
>EfrΘn
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Nokia Game ha comenzado
>Haz clic y disfruta de la nueva aventura multimedia de Nokia
>antes del 3 de noviembre.
>http://es.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html
>
>-
>



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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:01:52 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Where is Jazzland?

Anybody out there have an e-mail address to the Norwegian label Jazzland
(www.jazzlandrec.com)? Thanks in advance, Stephen

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden



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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:08 -0400
From: "Bruno Bissonnette" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaMonte Young DVD

Hello,

A couple months ago someone mentionned that the Well-Tuned Piano would be
released on DVD... from Lamonte's website it's clear the preview advance
copies are available (to finance the booklet and packaging), but when will
the actual release be?  And will the price be as ridiculously expensive as
the preview copy's? ($147!)

Thanks for any info,
Bruno Bissonnette

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:43:02 +0200
From: "Marius Ergo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Where is Jazzland?

Try this: [e-mail]

I tried finding it forever as well, but I think I got this one through their
mailing list.

Marius


>From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Where is Jazzland?
>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:01:52 +0200 (MET DST)
>
>Anybody out there have an e-mail address to the Norwegian label Jazzland
>(www.jazzlandrec.com)? Thanks in advance, Stephen
>
>Stephen Fruitman
>Dept of Historical Studies
>Umeσ University
>SE-901 87 Umeσ Sweden
>
>
>
>-
>


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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:23:52 +0200
From: "Andreas Dietz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mengelberg

Hi,

there┤s an interview with Misha Mengelberg done by John Corbett some years
ago. MM is speaking about attending Ellington in 1947 or 48, hating Free
Jazz and learning from his cat - a little bit dated but still interesting.
One quote about Monk:

'We were sitting somewhere and I asked him some question, and he put that
same question to my wife. My wife says something like: "Huh, why do you ask
that to me?" And he bent over to me and said what my wife said. That was
obviously one of his games, funny conversation. Went on for 20 minutes.'

The interview can be found at www.hathut.com/mengelberg.html

Andreas

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