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Zorn List Digest     Wednesday, September 19 2001     Volume 03 : Number 571



In this issue:
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       Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"
       rashied ali/leroy jenkins
       jenkins/sugarcane recommendations
       Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"
       Re: jenkins/sugarcane recommendations
       RE: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"
       f=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=llt > invalidObject Series > mp3s
       Re: Don "SugarCane" Harris recommendations?
       RE: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"
       [promo spam] FREE SubArachnoid Space et al show in Conn.
       Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"
       Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"
       PROMO: Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura-Weather Sky
       PROMO: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins-The Flirts
       Witness sextet ?
       emergency + mmw review?

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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:00:52 -0400
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"

Forwarded from another list.  Good thing no one in America knows who
Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by now.  Can anyone
verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate crap floating
around out there right now?

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

According to the German news agency dpa, Karlheinz Stockhausen said in
an interview he gave on account of a concert in Hamburg:

"What happened there is - now you must readjust your brain - the biggest
artwork of all times. That spirits achieve in a single act what we in
music cannot dream of, that people rehearse ten years long like mad,
totally fanatical for a concert and then die. This is the biggest
artwork that exists at all in the whole universe... I couldn't match
it. Against that, we - as composers - are nothing."

Asked by a jorunalist whether he identified art and crime, Stockhausen
replied: "It's a crime because the people were not consenting. They
haven't come to the 'concert'. This is evident. And nobody had announced
them that they could die in its process. What happened there
spiritually, this leap from security, from what's ordinary, from life,
that sometimes happens poco a poco in art. Or else it is nothing."

The Financial Times Germany quotes Stockhausen's colleague Gyorgy Ligeti
with the following reaction: "Stockhausen has taken the side of the
terrorists. [...] If he thinks this atrocious mass murder is an
artwork, I am sorry that I have to say that he should be locked up in a
psychiatric hospital".

(All quotes translated from German by me)

Florian





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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:14:54 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: rashied ali/leroy jenkins

In a message dated 9/18/01 10:35:58 AM,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Swift are the winds of life" by Rashied Ali and Le Roy
Jenkins Duo (AFAIR - re-issued by Knit Classics). >>

hi herr.I,
i love the disc, but perhaps reead the article review/interview i did
with rashied ali about the complete survival reissues
in  PERFECT SOUND FOREVER
http://www.furious.com/perfect/rashiedalisurvival.html
Interview with drummer Rashied Ali

love and peace and l'shana tocah to everyone....
steve
n.p.  stephan wittwer: streams (grob 320)
n.r.    tons of email

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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:21:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: jenkins/sugarcane recommendations

<< Jenkins >>

oh- i swear by leroy jenkins 1994 cri disc
'themes and improvisations on the blues,'
and also love his black saint duos with muhal abrams
"lifelong ambitions" from 1981, bl saint.
revolutionary ensemble discs are essential but poorly recorded,
if that matters at all to you, which it doesnt to me.
re sugarcane, th eonly other stuff i heard was in the fusion
genre and so wasnt my taste and dont recall em.
- --steve k.

steve k.

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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:22:16 -0700
From: "Revue des Fossiles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"

http://www.stockhausen.org/reply_to_bild.html

- - RdF.


>Forwarded from another list.  Good thing no one in America knows who
>Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by now.  Can anyone
>verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate crap floating
>around out there right now?
>
>Steve Smith
>[e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:41:49 -0700
From: Jim Flannery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: jenkins/sugarcane recommendations

<<re sugarcane>>

The 1971 Johnny Otis lp _Cuttin Up_ (with a cover by Jack Davis of Mad
Magazine) is pretty sweet; straight blues, features Shuggie Otis as you
might expect. Sugarcane also plays on some John Mayall albums, I'd
recommend the 2xLP _Back to the Roots_ if you can find it (a personal
high-school years staple, also featuring Clapton, Taylor, Mandel, etc.
- -- a "reunion" gig, sometimes with combinations of the guitarists).

Dittos on earlier comments about the MPS LP, which also features Volker
Kriegel & (on one track) Terje Rypdal.

- --
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Flannery
[e-mail]

     "It isn't so much the horrible things that have happened;
      it is the degraded attitudes of the people after the happenings
      that destroy all hope. They blink, and go on.
      But it isn't the same selves that go on."
                                                     -- R.A. Lafferty
nr: Mark Coggins, _The Immortal Game_
np:

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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:20:48 -0400
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"

Thanks so very much for sending this.  I've forwarded it to the composer who
sent me the original post.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Six Feet Under, "Waiting for Decay," 'True Carnage' (Metal Blade)

- -----Original Message-----
From: Revue des Fossiles [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 4:22 PM
To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"


http://www.stockhausen.org/reply_to_bild.html

- - RdF.


>Forwarded from another list.  Good thing no one in America knows who
>Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by now.  Can anyone
>verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate crap floating
>around out there right now?
>
>Steve Smith
>[e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:22:35 -0500
From: sergio luque <[e-mail]>
Subject: f=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=llt > invalidObject Series > mp3s

hi,

i don't know if someone has already pointed this site out:

http://www.fallt.com/invalidObject


360 tracks on 24 3"cds, by artists working within the field of 'microsound',
are available to download in mp3 format throughout september.



enjoy,
- --
sergio luque
[e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:51:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Don "SugarCane" Harris recommendations?

There are a few john mayall albums that he plays on, I think USA Union...one
of the drumless bands of mayall in the early 70's (remember them?)

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:18:52 +0200
From: "Franz Fuchs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"

> From: [e-mail]
> On Behalf Of Steve Smith

> Forwarded from another list.  Good thing no one in America knows who
> Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by
> now.  Can anyone
> verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate
> crap floating
> around out there right now?

Unfortunately there seems to be more to these quotes than the statement
on stockhausen.org implies, as they stem from audio protocolls made by
NDR, a television and radio broadcaster. Several newspapers* have
printed the story, without mentioning the involvement of the tabloid
"Bild". The Music Festival Hamburg has canceled Stockhausen's concerts,
which were scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

Regards
Franz Fuchs

* Links to German articles:
  http://www.taz.de/pt/2001/09/19/a0115.nf/text
  http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/sz/artikel79181.php


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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 02:11:39 -0400
From: "Jesse Kudler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [promo spam] FREE SubArachnoid Space et al show in Conn.

Hello all.  Apologies for the cross-post and the short notice.  This show
came together last minute, and I'm trying to spread the word.  Thanks.

Tonight!  Wed., 9/19/01, 7p.m. sharp at Eclectic House, 200 High St.,
Middletown, CT.
FREE OF CHARGE.

Subarachnoid Space
    psych rock from SF
Keiper/Baldwin/Looker trio
    drums/bass/guitar improv
Phil Collins
    a whole bunch of people improvising.

E-mail me with any questions.  Directions to Wesleyan are here:
http://www.admiss.wesleyan.edu/traveltowes.html

Then ask anyone around where Eclectic is.

Thanks,
Jesse


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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:08:28 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"

>"What happened there is - now you must readjust your brain - the biggest
>artwork of all times.

If true, yet another confirmation of the fact that artists need not (and
obviously often should not) use their channels of communication to discuss
politics. Also reminiscent of Andr=E9 Breton=B4s statement oh-so-long ago th=
at
the ultimate surrealist act would be to fire a pistol into a crowd.

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden



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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:50:42 +0200
From: Arthur Rother <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time"

At 11:08 AM 9/19/2001 +0200, you wrote:
> >"What happened there is - now you must readjust your brain - the biggest
> >artwork of all times.
>If true, yet another confirmation of the fact that artists need not (and
>obviously often should not) use their channels of communication to discuss
>politics.

This is not about politics.

>  Also reminiscent of Andr=E9 Breton=B4s statement oh-so-long ago that
>the ultimate surrealist act would be to fire a pistol into a crowd.

This is also not about politics.

Although politic related, or influenced, it is not ventilating politic=
 opinion.

As he said, readjust your brain first, please.





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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:53:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PROMO: Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura-Weather Sky

sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive=20

more than one copy of this:


I'm proud to announce the release of the latest CD on my label:

Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura-Weather Sky (Erstwhile 018)

Keith Rowe and Toshimaru Nakamura are two of the most important musicians in=
=20
the world today. Fans of each other=E2=80=99s work, they began to collaborat=
e in=20
early 2001, and have created in Weather Sky a timeless work of art.

Rowe, who is best known for his groundbreaking work with AMM (the seminal=20
improvising collective he co-founded in 1965 with Eddie Pr=C3=A9vost and Lou=
=20
Gare), also currently leads the Music In Movement Electronic Orchestra, an=20
all-star group featuring many of Europe's premier electronic musicians. Over=
=20
the last few years, Rowe has also been pursuing numerous projects outside of=
=20
his two primary projects, releasing superb records with Burkhard Beins=20
(Grain, on Zarek), G=C3=BCnter M=C3=BCller/Taku Sugimoto (The World Turned U=
pside Down,=20
on Erstwhile), as well as his solo work, most recently documented on the=20
difficult to digest but very strong Harsh (Grob).

Nakamura plays the "no-input mixing board", connecting the input of the boar=
d=20
to the output, then manipulating the resultant feedback. Since 1998, he's be=
e
n exploring the possibilities of his instrument in contexts ranging from=20
solo to collaborations with Sachiko M, Andrea Neumann, and the duo project=20
Repeat with drummer Jason Kahn. Nakamura is also a co-founder of The=20
Improvisation Meeting at Bar Aoyama, a monthly concert series in Tokyo, whic=
h=20
recently changed its name and location to Meeting At Off Site, and has toure=
d=20
Europe quite frequently over the last few years, to widespread acclaim.

Weather Sky was recorded in Saint-Etienne, France in June 2001, and consists=
=20
of three live improvisations totalling 73 minutes. Both musicians almost=20
entirely sublimate their egos throughout, creating a pure abstract feedback,=
=20
with occasional flecks of sound jumping to the foreground, coalescing to=20
produce a sense of eternity.

=E2=80=9CRowe and Nakamura's is a music at once immensely sophisticated and=20=
utterly=20
simple. A music which recreates the uncanny and pregnant suspension of time=20
in live performance; and which is itself the physical manifestation of an=20
exquisite sense of proportion. An ergonomic music which is philosophically=20
and aesthetically radical, drawing on - and seemingly echoing - the flight o=
f=20
the most numinous abstractions; and yet felt as a physical tremor in the ver=
y=20
brain of the listener, reminding us that the body is a memory, the profound=20
depths of which are only fitfully probed. This is the sound of a deep dive=20
into the void, breathtaking and mysterious.=E2=80=9D-Ed Baxter=20

=E2=80=9CHere are some stories/fables about silence and stammering, or durat=
ion and=20
discontinuation, or memory and incident. We are not "hearing" the sound. We=20
are "being" unawares at the inner side of the sound. "He" makes "space" and=20
the other "He" has made "time." "He" has a name as Keith Rowe, and the other=
=20
"He" has a name as Toshimaru Nakamura. Of course, It is needless to emphasiz=
e=20
that the name of "He" is exchangeable toward the other.=E2=80=9D-Atsushi Sas=
aki=20

personnel:

Keith Rowe: tabletop guitar, electronics
Toshimaru Nakamura: no-input mixing board

more info available at the following web sites, or contact Erstwhile Records=
=20

at [e-mail]:

http://www.erstwhilerecords.com
http://www.japanimprov.com/tnakamura/
http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mamm.html

all Erstwhile CDs can be purchased from numerous worldwide distributors, all=
=20

of which are listed on my web site. also, all Erstwhile releases can be=20

purchased via direct mail order, by check or by electronic payment through=20
PayPal, details of which are also on my web site.=20


- -------------------------------------------------


future releases from Erstwhile will include:

019: Greg Kelley/Jason Lescalleet-Forlorn Green
020: Giuseppe Ielasi/Domenico Sciajno-Right After
021: MIMEO/John Tilbury-The Hands Of Caravaggio
022: poire_z +
023: Polwechsel/Fennesz
024: Keith Rowe/Thomas Lehn/Marcus Schmickler
025: J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Noetinger/ErikM

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:53:34 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PROMO: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins-The Flirts

sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive=20

more than one copy of this:


I'm proud to announce the release of the latest CD on my label:

Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins-The Flirts (Erstwhile 017)

Cor Fuhler and Gert-Jan Prins are both prominent members of the European=20
improv world. Both live in Amsterdam, yet their paths rarely crossed before=20
they became involved in the initial incarnation of MIMEO in 1997.=20

Fuhler is primarily known for his work as a pianist, in ongoing projects wit=
h=20
such mainstays of the Dutch scene as Han Bennink, Michael Moore and Tristan=20
Honsinger. He released a superb solo prepared piano CD in 1994, 7CC in IO=20
(Geestgronden). In The Flirts, Fuhler manipulates sounds from turntables and=
=20
mbiras, filtering them through an analogue synth. Prins=E2=80=99 background=20=
is as a=20
drummer, but over the past decade, he=E2=80=99s focused almost exclusively o=
n=20
electronic noise-based music, using radio and television transmitters to=20
create a distinctive, physical sound. In 2000, he released a solo CD on Grob=
,=20
Prins Live, as well as a superb  trio CD with Thomas Lehn and Peter Van=20
Bergen, e-rax-Live At the Bimhuis, on his own label, X-Or. Both Fuhler and=20
Prins are also still members of MIMEO.

Since joining MIMEO, Fuhler and Prins have worked more and more together, in=
=20
and out of the band, and in early 2001, they recorded The Flirts over the=20
course of two studio sessions in Amsterdam. The Flirts combines a relentless=
=20
yet subdued energy with an endless stream of fresh ideas, resulting in a CD=20
that is seemingly chaotic, yet very musical.

The stunning packaging was entirely created by NYC-based designer Friederike=
=20
Paetzold.=20

=E2=80=9CPrins Live was one of the best records of 2000. Here returns the ma=
n with=20
Cor Fuhler: a serious, tender and yet kicking approach that is never just=20
music. The real virtuality!=E2=80=9D-Marcus Schmickler

personnel:

Cor Fuhler-EMS synthi AKS, turntables, mbiras
Gert-Jan Prins-electronics, FM modulations, radio

more info available at the following web sites, or contact Erstwhile Records=
=20
at [e-mail]:

http://www.erstwhilerecords.com
http://www.euronet.nl/users/fuhler/
http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/musician/mprins.html

all Erstwhile CDs can be purchased from numerous worldwide distributors, all=
=20

of which are listed on my web site. also, all Erstwhile releases can be=20

purchased via direct mail order, by check or by electronic payment through=20
PayPal, details of which are also on my web site.=20


- -------------------------------------------------


future releases from Erstwhile will include:

019: Greg Kelley/Jason Lescalleet-Forlorn Green
020: Giuseppe Ielasi/Domenico Sciajno-Right After
021: MIMEO/John Tilbury-The Hands Of Caravaggio
022: poire_z +
023: Polwechsel/Fennesz
024: Keith Rowe/Thomas Lehn/Marcus Schmickler
025: J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Noetinger/ErikM

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:26:59 +0200
From: Rob Allaert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Witness sextet ?

Zorn-agains,

Here in Belgium Dave Douglas' Witness was announced as a sextet although
they recorded as a nonet. Are they touring Europe as a sextet ?

    greetings,
      Rob @ risk

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:32:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: jason tors <[e-mail]>
Subject: emergency + mmw review?

Did anyone from the list make it to the tonic gig last night that would
like to give a review?? I am curious as to what kind of set emergency
did as well as mmw.

thanks!

J

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