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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:59:08 -0500
From: Herb Levy <herb@eskimo.com>
Subject: Feldman/Oliveros/Music with Roots in the Aether/Guilty Pleasure
Hi all,
A few guilty pleasures back, there was a request for a source for
Feldman sources & recommendations. If you're looking for a single
source, the best may be Anomalous
<http://www.anomalousrecords.com/mailorder.html>. As for
recommendations: you've got a good start on the late works with
>the Kronos Quartet's "Piano and String Quartets"
>recording, the complete Philip Guston, and Samuel Beckett.
For more works from this period, Stephen Drury's suggestion of Louis
Goldstein's recording of Triadic Memories is right on too. There're a
lot of other good recordings of Feldman works from the last ten years
or so of his life.
But I'd suggest that you check into some of Feldman's earlier music
too, though this is different from the later works you already know,
not only in terms of scale. The box set you asked about, Ecstasy of
the Moment, is good & offers a lot of works from Feldman's entire
career, but a couple of smaller (& cheaper) sets also offer good
overviews. The Mode disc by Aki Takahashi offers very good
performances of a wide range of piano solo works & Mode's album of
violin & piano pieces is also very good. There's a quirky collection
on the RZ label of solo piano and chamber works culled from many live
European radio broadcasts that's got some really wonderful
performances on it, Anomalous often has it in stock.
As to Oliveros, again there's a significant difference in style
between earlier works & what she's doing now. &, for now at least,
there's a lot less to choose from for recordings of pre-Deep
Listening Band recordings. The CD called Electronic Works on Paradigm
has a nice array of studio electronic pieces from the mid-1960s.
After that, there're a couple of Lovely Music releases from the 1970s
that have never came out on CD: Accordion & Voice presents two
meditative solo works & is very good; The Wanderer presents two works
for ensemble, one a small group version of one of the solos from A&V,
the title piece, for a large accordion ensemble, is more lively than
most of her other recorded works. There's also a mid-1980s collection
that came out on Hat Art called the Well & the Gentle with chamber
works performed by Relache & solo accordion pieces. This is listed as
a forthcoming re-issue on the Hat Web site, and it's worth checking
out.
There's also a good video of Oliveros with an interview and
performance that's part of Robert Ashley's video project Music with
Roots in the Aether. This series of seven roughly two-hour video
tapes presents interviews and performances by Robert Ashley, David
Behrman, Philip Glass, Alvin Lucier, Gordon Mumma, Terry Riley, as
well as Pauline Oliveros. This a very good way to see/hear what was
going on with these artists in the late 1970s. The settings are often
hilarious, though I don't want to give away any surprise here, the
performances are all at least very good, & the interviews are quirky
(most are lengthy and informative, one or two are brief and/or
cryptic). Anomalous usually has these in stock, and some enlightened
(for which read non-chain) video rental places have them.
My best musical guilty pleasure is hearing things on pop radio and
trying to figure out what I've heard about that it may be. This
worked better when I lived in Seattle, though, cause I only rarely
ever hear about what gets played on pop radio round here.
Bests,
Herb
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:01:28 EDT
From: Nudeants@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deadheads or Phishheads
Wow, you're really nice.
- -matt mitchell
- -all of this to a) see the mindless songless tripe offered up by guitar
wankers
b) scrog hippy chicks who eat too much chocolate c) enjoy the U.S. countryside
d) witness artless masterbatory dancing by smelly folks w/o jobs selling LSD
e) waste time & energy
>needless to say, i was quite stupid near the end.
- -Hmmmm....I don't doubt it. From the music or the acid or the smells? or some
combination of these?
- -You can commit suicide anytime now. You've seen it all.
J out
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:25:19 -0700
From: Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: The Knack / Duran / Kajagoogoo (was: Guilty Choices)
> A lucky man, actually. Doug's a talented writer and a charismatic
> performer, who happened to write a song that caught the entire world's
> attention for a spell. Doesn't make it a bad song. And he's done some very
> cool things since then - I even know about 'em. It's really kind of a shame
> that the manufactured hype surrounding the Knack (some of which the band
> contributed too, remember) ultimately resulted in backlash. If I appear to
> take the group less than seriously, that's probably why. And in a thread
> about guilty pleasures, "crap" is not necessarily intended as a complaint or
> an insult. It's just shorthand for catchy, kitschy, disposable (but often
> unforgettable) pop.
>
> I'm probably overreacting, but I'd like to avoid igniting the kind of shit
> storm I set off in the Zappa thread. On the other hand, everybody steps on
> someone's toe sometime.
>
> Semantics, schmemantics,
> Steve Smith
> ssmith36@sprynet.com
> NP - still nada...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Skip Heller
>
> Gee, Doug Fieger appeared on my last album. What does this make me?
>
In all honesty, I think Fieger is pretty rpoud to have wrotten "Sharona",
but I think he misses the days of feeling vital, which is what has led him
to try his hand at some more interesting things that might seem out of his
balliwick. And Doug's balliwick is admirable -- when he performed live with
us, we did "Surf's Up", and he sang it AS WRITTEN - all 30 octaves worth.
It was like Yma Sumac (without the ulcer).
skip h
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:29:02 -0700
From: William Crump <william@steno.com>
Subject: Re: Masada 4/14/01
wlt4@mindspring.com wrote:
> > Does he ever come to the Southeast? Atlanta, maybe? New Orleans?
>
> Masada has played Atlanta at least once, Zorn in other combos a couple of times I think. He was also at the Incus Week in Chattanooga a few years back (along w/F. Frith, Oxley, Shaking Ray Levis).
There was a brief US Masada tour in, uh, 1997 I think, that kicked off in Memphis, at Barristers. My first time seeing the band, and Joey was en fuego. I don't remember where the 2nd show was, but
then the 3rd was in Knoxville. The tour jumped all over the place, like Denver to Seattle to Chicago.
I heard some weirdness later on about the contract requiring the band to be provided a strictly kosher menu, but when they landed in Memphis, the first thing they wanted was some good barbecue.
William Crump
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:09:59 +0200
From: Rob Allaert <Rob@llaert.NU>
Subject: Re: ordinary fanfares playlist #4
What I meant was: I like all zorn related mails to appear in my Zorn
mailfolder instead of it being mingled with my 'ordinary' mail. My normal
INBOX has mails that are personally addressed to me. When mail is
addressed to a "group" it doesn't work since the real addresses aren't
visible. If everyone just puts the real address in the 'to' or 'cc' field,
then it is solved. Maybe I'll just have to create (many) rules for all
mails that have the zornlist in their undisclosed group mailings.
Anyway, np: Michel Portal - Minneapolis (2001)
> No offense, but I strongly disagree; I enjoyed seeing Greg's playlists,
> as much as I enjoy seeing "NP" listings appended to everyone's random
> thoughts. And the point is moot now, anyway, because the show has
> ended. - Steve Smith
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Grey ElkGel <greyelkgel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ordinary fanfares playlist #4
> If everyone just puts the real address in
> the 'to' or 'cc' field, then it is solved.
ok. now i get what you're saying - from now on, i'll
try to make sure not to put mailing list emails under
