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Zorn List Digest         Monday, April 9 2001         Volume 03 : Number 371



In this issue:
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       Fwd: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
       Keith Rowe & Alan Cohen
       RE: Fwd: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
       re: The Gift pulled in Canada?
       wrap-around outer black description thingy
       RE: The Gift
       Cage/feldman
       AMM tour reports?
       Fwd: The Gift and Canada
       Fwd: The Gift and Canada
       RE: AMM tour reports?
       don pullen
       RE: don pullen
       Re: AMM tour reports?
       Re: AMM tour reports?
       RE: don pullen
       RE: AMM tour reports?

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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:02:18 -0500
From: Moudry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta

Brad (& Zornsters),

Thanks for the correction. Just checked a few references and is is to be in
the First Congregational, rather than the (usual hang-out) First
Existentialists'. However, I _still_ hope to see lots of folks there.

Brotzmann & Drake will be at First Congregational, but Evan Parker's solo
concert at First Existentialist.

Sorry for any confusion caused be conflating multiple e-mails into
incorrect information.

Saturnally,
Joe Moudry

>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410)
>Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:28:29 +0100
>Subject: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
>From: "Brad Kendrick" <[e-mail]>
>To: Moudry <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>Sender: [e-mail]
>
>no, you are wrong, the performance was listed correctly at The First
>Congregational Church.  This is the work of presenters Al Smith and Rev.
>Dwight Andrews.
>
>----------
> >From: Moudry <[e-mail]>
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
> >Date: Fri, Apr 6, 2001, 4:45 PM
> >
>
> >
> >><snip!>
> >>4/27 - atlanta: first congregational church   brotzmann/drake
> >><snip!>
> >
> > For clarity's sake, the Atlanta site for Brotzmann & Drake is
> >
> > First Existentialist Congregation
> > 470 Candler Park Dr NE,
> > Atlanta, GA 30307-2113
> >
> > Phone: [phone]
> >
> > which is also where Evan Parker will do his solo performance on Saturday,
> > 21 April.
> >
> > Hope to see some of you there.
> ><snip!>

Joe Moudry
Office of Academic Computing & Technology
School of Education, The University of Alabama @ Birmingham

Master of Saturn Web (Sun Ra, the Arkestra, & Free Jazz):
<http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry>
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:21:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Keith Rowe & Alan Cohen

Hi all:

In the Keith Rowe interview in the latest Wire, he
talks about his tenure in a band led by Alan Cohen in
the time between leaving the Mike Westbrook Ork and
before the formation of AMM.

Rowe seems to have been asked to leave Westbrook, but
says he found a more sympathetic spirit in Cohen who
knew modern classical music.

Cohen's seems to be one name that has never come up in
histories of British Improvised Music. Was he a
player, a band leader or a composer? Did he lead a big
jazz band, a small combo, a dance band or a
"jazz-rock" group? Who else played with him besides
Rowe? And what is he doing now?

perplexed

Ken Waxman

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:35:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brad Kendrick <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta

Joe and all in the southeast area:
just to clarify the presenting situtation in Atlanta - the use of the term
"usual hang-out" is a reference to the many, many concert presentations by
the Creative Music Association that established that venue in your mind as
such.  Those shows included artists such as: Brotzmann, Joe McPhee, Rova,
Mats Gustafsson, Wolgang Fuchs, William Parker, ALLY Trio + Vandermark,
Other Dem. in Music, Fred Van Hove.  Later, other presenters began using the
space.  Al Smith and Rev. Dwight Andrews have extended the vision of that
series at the First Congregational Church.  Many on this list will recognize
Dwight Andrews name as the same multi-reedist who has contributed
significantly to the music through his own compositions and collaborations
with people like Leo Smith, Braxton, Roscoe Mitchell, Anthony Davis, and
others.  Interestingly, it was a Brotzmann/Drake show that began in earnest
the Creative Music Association's presenting series back in early 1996.
Please support the Smith/Andrews vision for the music in the acoustically
superlative First Congregational Church.  The effort is the same, the names
have merely changed.

- ------Original Message------
From: Moudry <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Sent: April 6, 2001 7:02:18 PM GMT
Subject: Fwd: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta


Brad (& Zornsters),

Thanks for the correction. Just checked a few references and is is to be in
the First Congregational, rather than the (usual hang-out) First
Existentialists'. However, I _still_ hope to see lots of folks there.

Brotzmann & Drake will be at First Congregational, but Evan Parker's solo
concert at First Existentialist.

Sorry for any confusion caused be conflating multiple e-mails into
incorrect information.

Saturnally,
Joe Moudry

>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410)
>Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:28:29 +0100
>Subject: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
>From: "Brad Kendrick" <[e-mail]>
>To: Moudry <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>Sender: [e-mail]
>
>no, you are wrong, the performance was listed correctly at The First
>Congregational Church.  This is the work of presenters Al Smith and Rev.
>Dwight Andrews.
>
>----------
> >From: Moudry <[e-mail]>
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
> >Date: Fri, Apr 6, 2001, 4:45 PM
> >
>
> >
> >><snip!>
> >>4/27 - atlanta: first congregational church   brotzmann/drake
> >><snip!>
> >
> > For clarity's sake, the Atlanta site for Brotzmann & Drake is
> >
> > First Existentialist Congregation
> > 470 Candler Park Dr NE,
> > Atlanta, GA 30307-2113
> >
> > Phone: [phone]
> >
> > which is also where Evan Parker will do his solo performance on
Saturday,
> > 21 April.
> >
> > Hope to see some of you there.
> ><snip!>

Joe Moudry
Office of Academic Computing & Technology
School of Education, The University of Alabama @ Birmingham

Master of Saturn Web (Sun Ra, the Arkestra, & Free Jazz):
<http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry>
Producer/Host of Classic Jazz & Creative Improv on Alabama Public Radio:
WUAL 91.5FM Tuscaloosa/Birmingham
WQPR 88.7FM Muscle Shoals/NW Alabama
WAPR 88.3FM Selma/Montgomery/Southern Alabama


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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:29:40 +0930
From: "Michael Vandelaar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: The Gift pulled in Canada?

You think that's bad ... here in Melbourne, Australia, the director's cut of
'The Exorcist' is not being shown on Good Friday as it may offend
Christians.
And further, no R-rated films are shown on Good Friday or Christmas Day for
the same reason!!!!

Michael


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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 01 07:49:47 -0400
From: Karen Murphy <[e-mail]>
Subject: wrap-around outer black description thingy

Tom,
I believe that the "wrap-around outer black description thingy" is called
an obi, which accompanies all Japanese CDs and LPs. On a side note, Evan
Parker is undertaking a brief US tour, including 3 dates with Susie
Ibarra.
T.M. Jones


EVAN PARKER & SUSIE IBARRA DUO:

8pm, Tuesday, April 10th
Hamman Hall, Rice University
Houston, TX
[e-mail]


8pm, Wednesday, April 11th
Ceremony Hall
Austin, TX
[e-mail]


8pm, Thursday, April 12th
Contemporary Arts Center
New Orleans, LA
[e-mail]


EVAN PARKER SOLO:

8:30pm, Monday, April 16th
The Lobby
St. Petersburg, FL
[e-mail]


8:30pm, Wednesday, April 18th
Western Presbyterian Church
Washington, DC
[e-mail]


8pm, Thursday, April 19th
Carrboro Century Center
Carrboro, NC
[e-mail]


8:30pm, Friday, April 20th
Flicker Theatre
Athens, GA
[e-mail]


8:30pm, Saturday, April 21st
First Existentialist Congregation
Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]


7pm, Sunday, April 22nd
Pilgrim Congregational Church
Birmingham, AL
[e-mail]



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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:08:06 +0200
From: patRice <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: The Gift

Hi y'all...

I received my copy yesterday, and must say I like the CD very much.

Nothing new and ground-breaking, but a very enjoyable and entertaining
release.

Also one to play to your friends/family who are not into Zorn.

Besides, I feel this release is worth the money for Ribot's work
alone... I just adore his guitar-playing.

As for the artwork: doesn't offend me. The fact that it's paintings and
not photographs makes quite a bit of a difference, me thinks.

patRice

np: JZ, The Gift
nr: Jeroen Lamers, Japonius Tyrannus - Oda Nobunaga reconsidered

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: aaron chua <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cage/feldman

Has anyone heard the new Cage prepared piano vol 2 on
naxos? any comments?
in fact any recommendations to his works written or
recorded would be appreciated.(but esp prepared piuano
pieces at hte moment. saw a drury cd of cage's music
and also by the ensemble modern today.,,)

thanks in advance,

oh yeah, i found the new morton feldman book  a great
read.great anecdotes w/ an occassional playful jibe at
stockhausen, boulez etc

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:21:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: AMM tour reports?

so the much-anticipated AMM US tour has kicked off, yet we haven't heard
about it yet.

how did the Colorado show go, Matt? and let's hear some reports on the
California, Portland and Chicago shows once they happen also. I need
something to tide me over for a few weeks until they make it to the East
Coast.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:38:14 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: The Gift and Canada

 Reminds me of  David Lynch's movie
> soundtracks. Will I listen to it in six months? I
> don't know. But I'm still listening to Bar Kokhba,
> that's for sure.
> Pierre Toussaint
> --
>

After repeated listenings I have concluded that I
can't make too many comparisons -at least positive-
between the two records you mention. The quality of
"the circle maker" is IMHO much higher than that of
"The gift".

I confess I listened to "the Gift" 5 or 6 times and
won't be back in my CD player for a long time. Great
disappointment!

Greetings,

EfrΘn

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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:41:01 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: The Gift and Canada

 Reminds me of  David Lynch's movie
> soundtracks. Will I listen to it in six months? I
> don't know. But I'm still listening to Bar Kokhba,
> that's for sure.
> Pierre Toussaint
> --
>

After repeated listenings I have concluded that I
can't make too many comparisons -at least positive-
between the two records you mention. The quality of
"the circle maker" is IMHO much higher than that of
"The gift".

I confess I listened to "the Gift" 5 or 6 times and
won't be back in my CD player for a long time. Great
disappointment!

By the way, thanks to all of those who included the
Michael Marcus 3 "Live in NY" in the top 2000 lists.
What an amazing recording!

Greetings,

EfrΘn

n.p: Peter Br÷tzmann/Misha Mengelberg/Han Bennink: "3
points and a mountain...plus" (FMP)

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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:10:01 -0600
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki  (S)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: AMM tour reports?



>how did the Colorado show go, Matt?

I was delightfully lost in their music for most of the set.  At the
beginning i didn't feel they were quite together but by about 10:00 they
seemed to have found each other (perhaps I percieved this because I didn't
close my eyes until this point).  The crowd was interesting; most of the
audience (C.Springs community and students of Colorado College) had no idea
what they were in for.  The total performance lasted about 1 hour and twenty
minutes.

Keith Rowe set up quite a few drone textures which he carefully modified and
almost unnoticably eliminated.  Their ability to blend volume levels really
astonished me.  Their transitions between textures were very decisive and
smooth.  There was a feeling of an ending which the group passed by.  Eddie
Prevost finished out the performance instead with a 5-10 min gong solo
(Keith Rowe was providing a little accompanyment at times). the silence at
the end of the performance went on for about 5 minutes before John Tilbury
played four notes at which point Keith Rowe turned off his stand light (each
member had his own stand light - there was no other stage lighting).  The
band stood and began to pack up to no applause.  Keith Rowe said that he
felt that the performance had a good overall form.
I thought it was incredible but I had never seen them before.


Matt Wirzbicki




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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 21:10:19 -0700
From: Skip Heller <[e-mail]>
Subject: don pullen

I've recently become quite enamored of Don Pullen's playing (I know -- I'm
late on this one).  Aside fr Mingus' CHANGES records, what are the best
choices for his playing?

skip h

np: prince -- come


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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:52:49 -0400
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: don pullen

For the earliest, "out"est stuff, check out the two Giuseppe Logan discs on
ESP.  The band also included Eddie Gomez and Milford Graves, and is
obviously worth hearing even if it's not among the best examples of any of
the sidemen concerned.  (It would be great if the Unheard Music Series could
find a way to reissue the ridiculously rare self-released duo album that
Pullen and Graves put out soon after - I've never even seen this thing.)
After this came the stretch with Mingus, of which I think 'Changes 1 & 2'
are the best examples.

Pullen recorded a fair amount of music under his own name, but for my money,
the music he made with tenorist George Adams in the Adams/Pullen Quartet
(or, as Blue Note would have it, the Pullen/Adams Quartet) is the fieriest
of his career.  Adams you'll already know from 'Changes' at the very least,
and the remainder of the group was bassist Cameron Brown and longtime Mingus
drummer Dannie Richmond.

They made a string of records on the Timeless label (including one with
guest John Scofield), but I'm most fond of their last four discs.  On Soul
Note, 'Live at the Village Vanguard' Vol. 1 & 2 give a good impression of an
average night with this incredible, raucous, telepathic band.  The two on
Blue Note, out of print but worth tracking down, are 'Breakthrough' and
'Song Everlasting.'  God do I wish I coulda seen that band.  It parted ways
when Richmond died in 1988; Adams passed in '92.

As for the latter Blue Notes under Pullen's name, 'New Beginnings' (a trio
date with Gary Peacock and Tony Williams) is good, but not really as good as
that lineup should be, mainly because Pullen rather simplified his style
here.  'Random Thoughts' with James Genus and Lewis Nash is better.  With
his next album, 'Kele Mou Bana,' Pullen started adding Native American and
African rhythms to the mix, while further simplifying his own sound.

Subsequent discs sound increasingly spiritual in a sort of New Age sense,
and I have to admit that I personally stopped keeping track of them.  But I
heard Pullen play with Arthur Blythe shortly before he died in '95, and he
remained capable of that unique mix of sanctified gospel and piano shredding
brimstone right to the end.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Skip Heller
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:10 AM
To: zorn
Subject: don pullen


I've recently become quite enamored of Don Pullen's playing (I know -- I'm
late on this one).  Aside fr Mingus' CHANGES records, what are the best
choices for his playing?

skip h

np: prince -- come


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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 02:35:36 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: AMM tour reports?

nice report, Matt, thanks. one question:

<< The band stood and began to pack up to no applause. >>

was there eventual applause, or just none at all?

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:53:32 -0000
From: "Arthur Gadney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: AMM tour reports?

><< The band stood and began to pack up to no applause. >>
>
>was there eventual applause, or just none at all?

Are you total shameless fanboy, or is this something which often happens at
AMM concerts? ;-) Seriously, I've never heard them (live or on record) but
remember hearing similiar comments before. I'm pussled.



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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:02:21 +0200
From: "Andreas Dietz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: don pullen

>I've recently become quite enamored of Don Pullen's playing (I know -- I'm
>late on this one).  Aside fr Mingus' CHANGES records, what are the best
>choices for his playing?
>
>skip h

my Don Pullen favorites are the following:

WARRIORS (Black Saint 1978) Don Pullen/Chico Freeman/Fred Hopkins/Bobby
Battle
MILANO STRUT (Black Saint 1978) Don Pullen/Don Moye
THE MAGIC TRIANGLE (Black Saint 1979) Joseph Jarman/Don Pullen/Don Moye

Milano Strut has some groovin┤ organ playing.
Pullen┤s work with Marcello Melis and with Roots is nice too...

Andreas
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:29:37 -0600
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki  (S)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: AMM tour reports?





<< The band stood and began to pack up to no applause. >>

>was there eventual applause, or just none at all?

i almost started it myself but eventually the official promoter began and
the whole room started a second later.  There was no standing-ovation.  The
general public was much more mixed in terms of their response to this show
than they were in their response toward Le Quan Ninh's performance.

Matt Wirzbicki

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