>interesting, in theory, but not having heard them.
There's a name I haven't thought of in years. I liked their album Alien
Soundtracks so much that it took me several other releases of trying to get
that sound again before I realized it wasn't happening. Alien Soundtracks
was one of the few albums they made as a quartet, so perhaps it was the
combination of all the players that makes it stand out in my mind. As I
remember, when they later became a duo, the music was much less interesting.
Funny you should mention This Heat, their album Deceit was on the player
today. For me that one wears better than the first one, or at least the
songs stuck in my head better. Sometimes I think Tortoise is moving in the
same territory (although I don't like Standards as much as some of their
earlier stuff).
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Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:52:38 EDT
From: JanZorn@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Gift pulled in Canada?
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In a message dated 4/5/01 9:13:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
jzitt@metatronpress.com writes:
> He said he was told the FBI were looking into it?
That's odd. What in the world would the FBI need to look into it for? I can't
think of one law that the FBI would want to address...where is your local
music store? Are you in Canada? I'm curious! :)
Jan
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<BR>That's odd. What in the world would the FBI need to look into it for? I can't
<BR>think of one law that the FBI would want to address...where is your local
<BR>music store? Are you in Canada? I'm curious! :)
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:06:31 EDT
From: Samerivertwice@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Gift pulled in Canada?
Keep in mind that I am half-asleep and have a faulty memory, but when I spoke
with Bruce at Downtown Music the other day he told me that many copies of
"The Gift" had been recalled because of a packaging error. I don't think it
was because the artwork was found to be offensive by the FBI or any other
government appointed task squad. From what I understood (and granted, this
was a very brief and twice interrupted conversation), the disc had a problem
with that wrap-around outer black description thingy (name please?) that
accompanies every Tzadik release. "The Gift" wasn't supposed to have one on
the outside, and those that did were recalled.
'night,
Tom
NP: Matthew Shipp "Magnetism"
In a message dated 4/5/01 10:01:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
thehodgsons@home.com writes:
> I just got back from my local music store and the guy there told me that
the
> Gift had been
> pulled from shelves in Canada. He said he was told the FBI were looking
> into it? What's
> the deal with this? Thats two of his Tzadik releases pulled from shelves
> here in less
> than 6 months. I don't care I already have them just curious what is so
> offensive about
> them. Anybody here offended by the artwork?
>
>
> -Dwayne
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:11:44 -0400
From: "Jesse Kudler" <jkudler@mail.wesleyan.edu>
Subject: This Heat
"Health and Efficiency" is one of my favorite records ever. Buy
immediately. "Repeat," which is packed with it as a twofer, is also really
good.
Are the full lengths besides "Made Available," um, available, anywhere?
- -Jesse
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From: "Scott Handley" <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: lightning bolt
> and tape/samples, etc. Also, I got This Heat's MADE
> AVAILABLE and was knocked out by the first several
> tracks. I have to get the earlier, out of print
> stuff, but in the meantime: are there any bands
> working this territory that I might like, esp. bands
> now working? On similar note, are there any groups
> working now that really carry on the best of the
> disturbing This Heat-type prog (?) and the early Kraut
> triumphs, without simply aping those advances? Sorry
> for the vagueness of the question. I should've just
> asked for bands that sound like This Heat, but I
> thought that'd be vulgar.
>
> ----s, skirting vulgarity, heh
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:42:40 +0200
From: Julien Quint <julien.quint@imag.fr>
Subject: Re: lightning bolt
Le Jeudi 05 Avril 2001 23:34, Scott Handley a =E9crit :
> On similar note, are there any groups
> working now that really carry on the best of the
> disturbing This Heat-type prog (?) and the early Kraut
> triumphs, without simply aping those advances? Sorry
> for the vagueness of the question. I should've just
> asked for bands that sound like This Heat, but I
> thought that'd be vulgar.
I remember when I first heard This Heat a few years ago that a lot of the=
=20
bands I was listening to at that were heavily influenced by them. Actuall=
y,=20
there was a whole bunch of French "post-rock" bands a few years ago that=20
would fit your description very well.
The best ones would be Tone Rec (3 albums on Sub Rosa; now they exist as =
the=20
glitchy laptop band Dat Politics), Ulan Bator (the first few ones on les=20
Disques du Soleil et de l'Acier, such as "2=B0" and "V=E9g=E9tale"; the l=
atest one,=20
"Ego:Echo", is awful), and especially B=E4stard: their second and last al=
bum=20
"Radiant, Discharged, Crossed-Off" is essential (the first one is OK but=20
nowhere near as good). It was first issued by Semantic, who then proceede=
d to=20
go belly up, and was then reissued by Ici D'ailleurs and should be still=20
available.
Lastly, but I think it is out of print, the "File Under Music" compilatio=
n LP=20
on Rectangle pairs those bands (B=E4stard, Sister Iodine, Prohibition,=20
H=E9liogabale, Hint) with free jazz musicians (e.g. Daunik Lazro, Yves Ro=
bert,=20
Denis Colin, Daunik Lazro) to uneven but often interesting effect.
Julien
ps -- good luck finding this abroad!
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:16:41 +0100 (WET DST)
From: Ricardo Reis <l43384@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Subject: Re: Heart of darkness - Orson Welles
> From: Taylor McLaren <toast@primus.ca>
> For what it's worth, though, the reading in question is pretty
> ludicrously short for its contents, and it could be (less-than-generously)
> described as being incomprehensible.
it's interesting what you say. i've only heard excerpts from the
"heart of darkness" documentary film by Alice Coppola on her husbands film
"Apocalipse now". i got the idea he was doing a "heavy" dark reading, very
suited to the text. can you be more explicity when classifying it as
"incomprehensible"?
greets,
Ricardo Reis
"NON SERVIAM"
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:43:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
Subject: the gift (artwork)
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I wasn't offended in the least... Although at work I keep the "Taboo and Exile" artwork "on the down low..." If art doesn't provoke thought and possibly discussion, then what good is it? It doesn't effect anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness, so what's the big deal... Those who don't like it, move on to the next CD. It only becomes an issue when certain groups of people make an issue of it... Just as the word "shit" is only a meaningless word (like spoon) until some group labels it as "offensive" and then we can't say it at work... ...and then it becomes forbidden fruit, which in turn brings a certain allure all its own.
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I wasn't offended in the least... Although at work I keep the "Taboo and Exile" artwork "on the down low..." If art doesn't provoke thought and possibly discussion, then what good is it? It doesn't effect anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness, so what's the big deal... Those who don't like it, move on to the next CD. It only becomes an issue when certain groups of people make an issue of it... Just as the word "shit" is only a meaningless word (like spoon) until some group labels it as "offensive" and then we can't say it at work... ...and then it becomes forbidden fruit, which in turn brings a certain allure all its own. <p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:52:25 -0400
From: Dwayne <thehodgsons@home.com>
Subject: Re: The Gift pulled in Canada?/Brotz & DLAD
> He said he was told the FBI were looking into it?
That's odd. What in the world would the FBI need to look into it for? I can't
think of one law that the FBI would want to address...where is your local
music store? Are you in Canada? I'm curious! :)
Jan
I live in Kitchener which is about 1hr from Toronto. I remember when he told me about the
Taboo & Exile being pulled too. He got a call asking him to send back any copies he still
had and it wasn't going to be available again. This time he told me the guy he talked to
said the FBI were looking into it? I guess this is all hearsay but I'll be back down
there today so I'll ask a little more about it. If it is no longer going to be availbale
here I feel better knowing I already have a copy.
On a bit of a side note, anyone here going to catch any of the Die like A Dog trio shows.
There are a number of dates and I plan on heading to Buffalo next Saturday. I remember
there being some talk about Brotzmann a week or so ago. I've been listening to 'Little
Birds Have Fast Hearts Vol 1' and it's incredible. Just got The Brotzmann/Drake/Kessler
in the mail from OKKA yesterday so I will be checking that out any minute now.
Here are the dates for the DLAD spring tour posted on the eremite site.
4/7 - nyc: tonic brotzmann/parker - unconfirmed -
4/10 & 11 - montreal: casa del popolo trio
4/13 - boston: i.c.a. trio special guest joe mcphee
4/14 - buffalo: hallwalls trio special guest joe mcphee
4/15 - rochester: bug jar trio
4/16 - ann arbor: firefly club trio
4/17 - bloomington: second story trio
4/19 - chicago: empty bottle brotzmann/drake
4/20 - chicago: empty bottle trio special guest fred anderson
4/22 - milwaukee: brotzmann
4/23 - austin: ceremony hall trio
4/24 - houston: trio
4/25 - nola: contemporary arts center trio special guest kidd jordan
4/27 - atlanta: first congregational church brotzmann/drake
4/28 - athens: forty watt club brotzmann/drake
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:45:44 -0500
From: Moudry <Moudry@uab.edu>
Subject: Re: Brotz & Drake in Atlanta
><snip!>
>4/27 - atlanta: first congregational church brotzmann/drake
><snip!>
For clarity's sake, the Atlanta site for Brotzmann & Drake is
First Existentialist Congregation
470 Candler Park Dr NE,
Atlanta, GA 30307-2113
Phone: (404)378-5570
which is also where Evan Parker will do his solo performance on Saturday,
21 April.
Hope to see some of you there.
Saturnally,
Joe Moudry
Office of Academic Computing & Technology
School of Education, The University of Alabama @ Birmingham
Master of Saturn Web (Sun Ra, the Arkestra, & Free Jazz):
<http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry>
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