Revenant is indeed planning a multi-CD box set of Charlie Patton's work for later this year. After that, they'll be putting together John's last recordings for release.
Best,
Jason
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:00:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <mingusaum@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: The hole in the 70s
Nope
Those "jazz-death" people would still not be listening
to that music anyway, it might upset them.
Ken Waxman
- --- DvdBelkin@aol.com wrote:
> I wonder if any decade in jazz has been less well
> served on CD. And I wonder how different perceptions
> of jazz history would be - per the
> jazz-died-in-the-70s canard - if we could just hear
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:53:13 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: The hole in the 70s (was: Irene Schweizer Trio- Early Tapes (FMP 0590))
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:39:16 -0500 "Steve Smith" wrote:
>
> Well, in recent years we've started to see a change in this, at least where
> Incus is concerned. Emanem got to reissue the Iskra 1903 material, Dexter's
> Cigar reissued 'Aida,' and Organ of Corti packaged the 'Incus Taps.'
Darn! I guess these are the exceptions that confirm the rule :-).
Patrice.
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:36:58 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: The hole in the 70s (was: Irene Schweizer Trio- Early Tapes (FMP 0590))
In a message dated Tue, 6 Mar 2001 3:06:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, DvdBelkin@aol.com writes:
I wonder if any decade in jazz has been less well served on CD. And I wonder how different perceptions of jazz history would be - per the jazz-died-in-the-70s canard - if we could just hear that era's output.
>>
<sarcasm>
Could be why Ken Burns left out the 70's in his documentary...
</sarcasm>
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:48:53 -0500
From: "Alan Kayser" <alankayser@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: The hole in the 70s (was: Irene Schweizer Trio- Early Tapes (FMP
>"From: "Steve Smith" <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
>Subject: Well, in recent years we've started to see a change in this, at
>least >where
>Incus is concerned. Emanem got to reissue the Iskra 1903 material,
>snip...Of course, in some cases we're also contending with the
> >diappearance of
>original source material. What small reissue label wouldn't sell its
>collective soul to reissue 'The Topography of the Lungs,' which Bailey >has
>reported lost forever? Of course, if Bailey and Parker could reach a
>gentleman's agreement on that particular session, I bet Atavistic could >do
>a
>reasonable job mastering from clean vinyl. Wouldn't be the first time.
>Steve Smith"
Yes, and hat's are off to Emanem for the fine job they did with ISKRA and
cutting the cds from LP source material. FMP, among others, is sitting on
classic material from the 70s, probably as not to conflict with newer
releases from the same artists. Brotzmann and vonSchlippenbach come to
mind. The Brotzmann/Bennink/VanHove LPs from the 70s are not on CD at all.
And I'm certain that the vonSchlippenbach Trio 70-80s LPs (Pakistani pomade,
Three Nails Left, Hidden Peak, and Anticlockwise) are not present due to
their newer releases. I've searched without luck for this vinyl. (If
anyone knows of used copies, or is willing to copy, get in touch. I have
much to trade). Actually, what is available only scrathes the surface.
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:55:00 EST
From: APoesia794@aol.com
Subject: pressing vinyl: off topic
does anybody know of a decently priced place to get a vinyl master plate
pressed?
the same for record pressing.
thanks a bunch. jason
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:00:09 EST
From: Nudeants@aol.com
Subject: 70's re-issues and stuff
BTW, I'd just thought I'd ask if anyone else besides me thinks that the Iskra 1903 set is ridiculously great?
Also, how is the new Evan Parker-produced strings album on Emanem? Anyone heard it?
I'm sure also that someone has mentioned the Evan Parker/Keith Rowe duo disc at some point; is that as great as can be reasonably assumed? I never seem to see that one; I'm looking to complete the Evan Parker meets AMM triumvurate of duo albums.
Thanks,
- -Matt Mitchell
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:19:07 EST
From: Nudeants@aol.com
Subject: 70's jazz
What about Weather Report? Ornette? Dexter's Homecoming (is that the title? - the double w/ Woody Shaw from 1979)? The majority of Woody Shaw's output?
Miles? Keith Jarrett - the most prolific jazz pianist of the '70's, released about 14 albums with his quartet with Dewey Redman, 3 with the quartet with Jan Garbarek, not to mention scads of solo albums and other things more in a classical sort of realm. V. S. O. P., arguably steeped in the '60 Miles thing but sounding very unmistakably of their time. There are actually 3 records by that band, though I'm not sure how many were released in the '70's. Joe Henderson did some great stuff in the decade. Mahavishnu, Tony Williams Lifetime, even Chick Corea at times. Herbie's Thrust is one of the best jazz albums ever!
Of course, if were defining jazz as albums that sound like Milestones, Giant Steps, Birth of the Cool, etc., then I guess much less of this qualifies. I always considered even the amped-up stuff from the '70's to be more jazz than anything else.
- -Matt Mitchell
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:39:16 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: RE: The hole in the 70s (was: Irene Schweizer Trio- Early Tapes (FMP 0590))
Well, in recent years we've started to see a change in this, at least where
Incus is concerned. Emanem got to reissue the Iskra 1903 material, Dexter's
Cigar reissued 'Aida,' and Organ of Corti packaged the 'Incus Taps.'
Perhaps as time goes on more such labels will see these deals as a way to
satisfy consumer demand for older material while generating a bit a working
capital in order to underwrite newer projects of their own.
Of course, in some cases we're also contending with the diappearance of
original source material. What small reissue label wouldn't sell its
collective soul to reissue 'The Topography of the Lungs,' which Bailey has
reported lost forever? Of course, if Bailey and Parker could reach a
gentleman's agreement on that particular session, I bet Atavistic could do a
reasonable job mastering from clean vinyl. Wouldn't be the first time.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
(who really has no business posting while on deadline...)
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From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Patrice L.
Roussel
The "problem" with FMP, Incus, and ICP is that they refuse other labels to
reissue their catalog. And since it is natural for artists to put more
emphasis on what they do *NOW*, old recordings get lower priority.
Revenant is indeed planning a multi-CD box set of Charlie Patton's work for later this year. After that, they'll be putting together John's last recordings for release.
Best,
Jason
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:57:18 -0500
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Re: The hole in the 70s
>>From: DvdBelkin@aol.com
>
>>
>>I wonder if any decade in jazz has been less well served on CD. And
>>I wonder how different perceptions of jazz history would be - per
>>the jazz-died-in-the-70s canard - if we could just hear that era's
>>output.
>>
(Snip)
>The '70s are a complete embarrassment for the history of jazz in
>North America, essentially the genre was forgotten, neglected and
>left to die...
Lack of major label support does not equal death. (Despite
what Ken Burns might think)
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:51:45 -0800
From: Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: The hole in the 70s
skip heller
>
> Lack of major label support does not equal death. (Despite
> what Ken Burns might think)
>
> -
>
No, but it equals a lack of visibility, and, if one can't see something, how
will they know it exists?
On the happier side, it has made certain catalogues cheaper to purchase and
therefore more cost-effective to reissue. 32 Jazz has reissued much of the
Muse Records catalog, which means Woody Shaw and Pat Martino, among others.
Also, the ECM stuff tends to largely be findable (I wish they'd adopt a
mid-line pricing for catalog -- replacing all my old Carla Bley vinyl is
STEEP).
It would be nice to see the Artist's House stuff and a few other things come
out, but, to my tastes, there's enough out there that one can look into the
seventies and get something of an accurate idea of the period.
BTW -- are we all through trashing Ken Burns? That much is getting tedious.
skip heller
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:06:03 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: The hole in the 70s
In a message dated Tue, 6 Mar 2001 9:50:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net> writes:
<< BTW -- are we all through trashing Ken Burns? That much is getting tedious. >>
I'm afraid I started that round again. Couldn't help but get in one last dig.
