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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #228 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, January 4 2001 Volume 03 : Number 228 In this issue: - parmegiani Best of 2000 Re: petsoundscharlietouchandgo Michael Blake (was: slowpoke) Re: slowpoke semi zorn related hodge podge Re: petsoundscharlietouchandgo touch&go/virgin prunes Re: semi zorn related hodge podge fs: yoshihide 'sampling virus' Re: semi zorn related hodge podge Re: petsoundscharlietouchandgo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:18:06 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: parmegiani anyone interested in checking out the superb and temporarily out of print De Natura Sonorum by Bernard Parmegiani, it's up on Antenna Radio this week. http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/levide/pn.htm Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 02:03:14 -0000 From: "Alastair Wilson" <wilsonah@hotmail.com> Subject: Best of 2000 A bit late, (recounts, hanging door chads, etc) but here they are: Best albums of 2000: 1. Marc Ribot Y Los Cubanos Positzos - Muy Divertido!(Atlantic) 2. Sidsel Endresen - Undertow (Jazzland) 3. Shellac - 1000 Hurts (Touch & Go) 4. Derek Bailey/Jamaleeden Tacuma/Calvin Weston - Mirakle (Tzadik) 5. Morphine - The Night (Rykodisc) 6. Otomo Yoshihide/Voice Crack - Bits, Bots and Signs (Erstwhile) 7. Farmers Market - Farmers Market (Winter & Winter) 8. John Zorn - Filmworks IX: Trembling Before G-d (Tzadik) 9. Dave Douglas - 1000 Evenings (RCA) 10. Fennesz - 03/02/00 Live at Revolver, Melbourne (Touch) / Fennesz with Rosy Parlane - Live at Synaesthesia (Synaesthesia ) (This is actually 2 EPs of live stuff from Fennesz' Australian tour, but it's my list so I'll put them in if I like!) 11. High Llamas - Buzzle Bee (Duophonic Super 45s) 12. Aix Em Klemm - Aix Em Klemm (Kranky) 13. Broadcast - The Noise Made By People (Warp) 14. John Zorn - Xu Feng (Tzadik) 15. Radiohead - Kid A (Parlophone) Reissues of 2000 1.Raymond Scott - Manhattan Research (Basta) 2. John Zorn - The Big Gundown 15th Anniversary Edition (Tzadik) 3. Various - Ohm: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music (Ellipsis Arts) 4. The Monkees - The Headquarters Sessions (Rhino Handmade) (a guilty pleasure) 5. The Wondermints - Bali (Sanctuary) Gigs of 2000 AAAAAARRRRGH! Such a good year for gigs after a slightly disappointing 1999. In no particular order: Iain Ballamy's Food/Farmers Market at the Jazz Cafe John Zorn's Masada triple bill at the Barbican Shellac at All Tomorrow's Parties (rock gig of the year, no question) Dave Douglas Charms of The Night Sky/Tiny Bell Trio at the QEH Sidsel Endresen at Ronnie Scotts Arto Lindsay at the Jazz Cafe Ryoji Ikeda at the QEH Film of 2000 Memento. I didn't see many "new" filns this year, but this one stayed with me for days and weeks after I saw it. Great stuff. Finally saw A Clockwork Orange for the first time now that Kubrick is dead. Disappointment of 2000 Teenage Fanclub "Howdy". I've tried really hard, but...it took them three years to come up with that?!? Instrument of 2000 The Accordion. Obviously. A - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:06:23 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: petsoundscharlietouchandgo - --part1_3d.59e059d.2785349f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/03/2001 5:11:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, ObviousEye@aol.com writes: > NP- They Might Be Giants.....excellent!! Which one?:) I'm still waiting for their childrens album to come out! - --part1_3d.59e059d.2785349f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>In a message dated 01/03/2001 5:11:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, ObviousEye@aol.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">NP- They Might Be Giants.....excellent!! </BLOCKQUOTE> Which one?:) I'm still waiting for their childrens album to come out! </HTML> - --part1_3d.59e059d.2785349f_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:50:11 -0500 From: Peter Gannushkin <shkin@shkin.com> Subject: Michael Blake (was: slowpoke) Hello John, Wednesday, January 03, 2001, you wrote to me: Fac> At the cybermusicsurplus site,on Intuition, they have a Michael Fac> Blake cd "Kingdom Of Champa" which I would consider great. It Fac> breaks outside the boundaries of fusion and has some beautiful Fac> tunes. Besides Tronzo, it has Thomas Chapin, Billy Martin, Steven Fac> Bernstein, Marcus Rojas, Rufus Cappadocia, Tony Scherr, Bryan Fac> Carrott, and Scott Neumann. It makes me want to hear more Michael Fac> Blake. They had it actually. I made a list of things to order from there before January 2 (the last day of super sale), but some items disappeared by that time including "Kingdom Of Champa". Blake is playing in Steven Bernstein's "Millenial Territory Orchestra" among others. Although there are no CDs released yet, you can get some MP3s from Sex Mob official web site. The music is pure fun and reminds of Kansas City Band with all downtowners instead of "real" jazz guys. - -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:43:35 EST From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: slowpoke Thanks to everyone for the Slowpoke help! Tom ________________________________________________ The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage perhaps in music, because that art contains no material to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value, and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses. --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:31:10 -0500 From: Matt Laferty <bg60009@binghamton.edu> Subject: semi zorn related hodge podge Zorn Kids Does anyone on the list have the complete Ellington on RCA Victor box? I'm about to check it out and am wondering about the packaging. Do the cds come in boxes, things like that. And... Just got my first DVD player (and Branded to Kill with Zorn written liner notes and film posters from his collection) and am wondering if anyone has recommendations of Hong Kong/Japanese/Asian/Indian film on DVD or VCD. I'm a fan of Seijun Suzuki and "Bride with White Hair" and some kung-fu, and Woo, but I'm looking to go deeper. Thanks in advance: Matt NP in the changer: Nick Drake Home recordings, Gainsbourg's "vu de l'exterieur", Dolly Parton, "The Lightning Fingers of Roy Clark", Ed Haley. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:53:49 -0500 From: "Me" <frunobulax@mpinet.net> Subject: Re: petsoundscharlietouchandgo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C075E0.6AEFD300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable as far as i know, brian wilson did not have any formal training, and = learned his composition from sitting down and learning tunes by the Four = Freshmen. <does anyone know if Brian Wilson had any formal learning of = orchestration?=20 <the man is a genius...=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C075E0.6AEFD300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>as far as i=20 know, brian wilson did not have any formal training, and learned his = composition=20 from sitting down and learning tunes by the Four=20 Freshmen.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><does=20 anyone know if Brian Wilson had any formal learning of orchestration?=20 <the man is a genius... = </DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C075E0.6AEFD300-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:56:17 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: touch&go/virgin prunes << does anyone else here really enjoy some of those wacky Touch&Go bands? >> dear ben o, by fave touch and go all come from the group the Virgin Prunes, who combine noise, gothic and dancemusic, depending on the cut, and the disc (have a nifty box of 10"s from then, all noise stuff) and all of them on an extended 12" of loooong mixes of 'our love will last forever until the day it dies' steve koenig n.p.: martinu- works for 2 pnos- elan records- fab disc! - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 01:09:45 -0500 From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: semi zorn related hodge podge >liner notes and film posters from his collection) and am wondering if >anyone has recommendations of Hong Kong/Japanese/Asian/Indian film on >DVD or VCD. I'm a fan of Seijun Suzuki and "Bride with White Hair" and >some kung-fu, and Woo, but I'm looking to go deeper. DVDs have been wonderful for Indian films. The quality is so much better than the third generation, EP dubs that fill Indian video stores plus the box will tell you whether there's English subtitles (though the song lyrics still aren't translated) and the chapter stops will give you titles of songs. Well worth seeking out are China-Gate (a very nice remake of Seven Samurai), Satya (a gritty story about a low-level criminal with big plans) and Dil Se (oddball romantic musical that veers into genuine surrealism at times). There have even been a fair amount of Indian films from the 50s and 60s turning up on DVD. Japanese films are a bit more spotty on DVD. The actual made-in-Japan discs rarely have subtitles and can't be played in regular US players anyway. Some good stuff has come out in the US however including most of Takeshi Kitano's major films though the quality on some like Violent Cop are supposedly no better than videotape. Several of the films in the retrospective Masters of Japanese Outlaw Cinema have started showing up: two of Koji Wakamatsu's just last week (imagine Bataille-inspired mixes of Godard, politics and softcore porn), the ultra-nihilistic Female Convict Scorpion: Jailhouse 41, a wild 'n' goofy spy comedy Black Tight Killers. A big cult favorite is Evil Dead Trap but I thought it was dull and unimaginative. Plus of course quite a bit of Kurosawa and tons of anime (don't miss Princess Mononoke). Japanese films on VCD are somewhat different: there's quite a selection available and a good percentage of them have English subs. Hong Kong DVDs are often subtitled, in fact some offer as many as six or seven subtitles (Bahasa anyone?). The quality is generally good with the notable exception of older martial arts films released in the US which are often the same chopped-up, poorly dubbed versions that used to air on late-night TV. And there are a very few genuine scams such as a DVD for Ashes of Time that took a full-frame image, put black bars over parts of the top and bottom and then sold as letterboxed. (There's a better quality disc of this title--though still not top-notch--but unfortunately I can't remember which company did which version.) Many of the best-known HK films are on DVD and more come out all the time. If you like Woo definitely check out Ringo Lam (esp Full Contact, Full Alert, Wild Search and Burning Paradise) and Johnnie To (Heroic Trio, Running Out of Time). There are numerous books and websites about HK films so you'll never lack for suggestions. Films from other Asian countries sometimes appear on VCD and are just now getting spotty DVD releases. The two best-known Chinese (PRC) directors Zhang Yimou and Chen Kaige have a few on disc. Most of Taiwanese director Hou Hsiao-Hsien's films are due for US DVD release later this year and definitely shouldn't be missed, esp City of Sadness which is one of the three or four greatest films ever made. Tsai Miang-Ling's The Hole was just released; I haven't seen it yet but his other films are quite good so I'm looking forward to it. There's a lot of good stuff coming out of Korea that deserves to be seen so maybe some day.... You can get more info on the Asian movies newsgroup but it gets so bogged down in petty fights that it's too often a chore to read. Instead I'd recommend the Mobius Home Video Forum (http://www.mhvf.net/) as a better source. LT - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Documentary Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:21:00 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu> Subject: fs: yoshihide 'sampling virus' hello everyone. otomo yoshihide, the night before the death of the sampling virus, extreme xcd 024 8 years later, this disc still doesn't do anything for me (unlike 'cathode'), so if anyone here would like it, please make an offer (anything is better than the "we don't want it" the local 'hip' record store gave me). also, i noticed there is some real audio of the tim berne big band up on the screwgun website, for those that are interested. really great music, as usual.... cheers, whit - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 01:52:37 -0500 From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: semi zorn related hodge podge Matt Laferty wrote: > Does anyone on the list have the complete Ellington on RCA Victor box? > I'm about to check it out and am wondering about the packaging. Do the > cds come in boxes, things like that. The CDs do not come in jewel cases. They come in thin cardboard sleeves. There are 24 discs arranged in four stacks of six discs apiece. There is a ribbon attached to the bottom of the box underneath each stack to make it easier to lift the discs out of the box. There's also a pretty remarkable book in the box, but some early copies had faulty binding and the pages fell out pretty readily. If you happen to get one of these, the company will exchange it for you at no cost, though you'll have to pay postage to send the faulty copy to them. If you don't feel like springing for the entire 24 CD set, RCA will be issuing smaller subsets in increments of three to seven related discs. These come in standard CD jewel boxes, but you don't get that wonderful book. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Leonardo Balada, 'Sardana,' Barcelona Sym/Aeschbacher (Naxos) - answering my own query from earlier in the afternoon... so far not particularly impressive... good thing these things are cheap... - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 02:06:25 -0500 From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: petsoundscharlietouchandgo - --------------D20DF112ACF8392A176E301B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ObviousEye@aol.com wrote: > does anyone else here really enjoy some of those wacky Touch&Go bands? > early > jesus lizard, big black, butthole surfers (hairway to steven is one of > the > most brilliant 80's records), rapeman.... The Butthole Surfers will always be one of my favorite bands of all time, even though their records since leaving Touch & Go have not been anywhere near as good. I think the stretch of records they made for the label - 'Psychic... Powerless... Another Man's Sac,' 'Rembrandt Pussyhorse,' 'Locust Abortion Technician,' and 'Hairway to Steven' are all just brilliant, and I listen to the first one all the damn time. And for the hardcore, the recent Latino Bugger Veil reissues do in fact sound much better than the Touch & Go originals. The double live authorized bootleg is great as well - I have so many fond memories of seeing this band over and over in the '80s in Texas. The last time I saw them was one of their earliest gigs with only one drummer - it was a New Year's Eve date in Houston, and they announced that they had just signed to Capitol, then closed the show with "Don't Fear the Reaper." Supposedly they're working on a new album for another major label, though I've heard some truly disturbing rumors about Gibby's mental health (or lack thereof - he seems hellbent on becoming another Roky Erickson drug-damage poster child). I'd KILL to get a copy of the third Capitol album, 'After the Astronaut.' It was cancelled after review copies were sent out and was even reviewed in Spin, but I've never seen one of these advance copies anywhere, even on eBay. If anyone out there is sitting on a copy they could tape, I'd be your friend for life... I read at some point on an old and possibly defunct Surfers newsgroup that it might possibly be released elsewhere in the world, but that doesn't seem to have happened. Marginally related (since Surfer Paul Leary produced a track) - has anyone out there heard the new Meat Puppets? Is it worth hearing? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Leonardo Balada, 'Fantasias Sonoras,' Barcelona Sym/Aeschbacher (Naxos) - better than the last piece I mentioned, but only just... - --------------D20DF112ACF8392A176E301B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> ObviousEye@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>does anyone else here really enjoy some of those wacky Touch&Go bands? early jesus lizard, big black, butthole surfers (hairway to steven is one of the most brilliant 80's records), rapeman....</blockquote> The Butthole Surfers will always be one of my favorite bands of all time, even though their records since leaving Touch & Go have not been anywhere near as good. I think the stretch of records they made for the label - - 'Psychic... Powerless... Another Man's Sac,' 'Rembrandt Pussyhorse,' 'Locust Abortion Technician,' and 'Hairway to Steven' are all just brilliant, and I listen to the first one all the damn time. And for the hardcore, the recent Latino Bugger Veil reissues do in fact sound much better than the Touch & Go originals. The double live authorized bootleg is great as well - I have so many fond memories of seeing this band over and over in the '80s in Texas. The last time I saw them was one of their earliest gigs with only one drummer - it was a New Year's Eve date in Houston, and they announced that they had just signed to Capitol, then closed the show with "Don't Fear the Reaper." Supposedly they're working on a new album for another major label, though I've heard some truly disturbing rumors about Gibby's mental health (or lack thereof - he seems hellbent on becoming another Roky Erickson drug-damage poster child). I'd KILL to get a copy of the third Capitol album, 'After the Astronaut.' It was cancelled after review copies were sent out and was even reviewed in Spin, but I've never seen one of these advance copies anywhere, even on eBay. If anyone out there is sitting on a copy they could tape, I'd be your friend for life... I read at some point on an old and possibly defunct Surfers newsgroup that it might possibly be released elsewhere in the world, but that doesn't seem to have happened. Marginally related (since Surfer Paul Leary produced a track) - has anyone out there heard the new Meat Puppets? Is it worth hearing? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Leonardo Balada, 'Fantasias Sonoras,' Barcelona Sym/Aeschbacher (Naxos) - better than the last piece I mentioned, but only just...</html> - --------------D20DF112ACF8392A176E301B-- - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #228 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com