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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #213
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, December 21 2000 Volume 03 : Number 213
In this issue:
-
exorkest
special offer on Bobby Previte's web site...
schlippenbach
Death Metal Artists
cd's i'm wondering about
Re: cd's i'm wondering about
Re: cd's i'm wondering about
top 10 od '00
Phil Niblock- China and Sunsets
Re: top 10 od '00
Re: top 15 (questions)
Re: cd's i'm wondering about
Estradasphere...not best in 2000
Things too look forward to in 2001?
Re: Estradasphere...not best in 2000
greetings
best of 2000 (almost)
another best album i forgot to mention
Re: best of 2000 (almost)
Re: best of 2000 (almost)
Re[2]: best of 2000 (almost)
the new year's tonic show
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:37:02 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: exorkest
andreas listed as a top concert of the year The Ex Orkest (Moers). what was
this? an orchestral version of the band the ex, or am i leaping here?
thanks
kg
np: richard zimmerman - the complete works of scott joplin, disc 2
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:39:21 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: special offer on Bobby Previte's web site...
I don't know if my message went throught or not, so here we go again.
Patrice.
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally some activity on Bobby Previte's web site. Under the
name "chance", Bobby makes the following offer:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"LIMITED EDITION CD OFFER
This is the first in a series of CD's which be sold only on the web. Each
CD is a highest quality recording by Bongo Dali and Key Command, collecti-
vely known as Swami Late Plate.
These recordings will be collectors items as quantities will be limited.
Each CD is hand signed by the artists.
CD number one, "CANTO I" is available now.
Click below to download a sample.
[buttons to select among three samples]
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anybody know about this "Swami Late Plate"?
Thanks,
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:45:42 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: schlippenbach
danasked:
I'm curious about the Schlippenbach 3 (or is it 4?) disc on Atavistic. Anyone
here heard it and want to recommend it? How's the performance, sound, etc. I
haven't gotten around to picking it up yet.
it's a quartet. i'm not familiar with schlippenbach, so it's hard to say much
about it in light of his other work. but i think it's a great disk -- tight band
(with evan parker and paul lovens!), and the sound quality is fine. maybe not
pristeen to digital ears, but warm and good.
kg
np: zony mash - brand spankin' new
- -
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:10:15 EST
From: Samerivertwice@aol.com
Subject: Death Metal Artists
For whoever's interested:
>seeking death metal artists
>
>Hi,
>
> We are looking for death metal artists to appear on our compilation. If
> you or anyone you know would
>be interested in more information please have them contact us or visit the
>link below.
>
><http://www.houseofjordan.com>http://www.houseofjordan.<http://www.houseofj
>ordan.com>com
>
>Also, we just released a 10 cd boxset with over 200 indie artists on it.
>It has over 40 unsigned underground death metal artists on it from all over
>the world. It's only $39.99 for 10 cds. See our website for more information
><http://www.houseofjordan.com>http://www.houseofjordan.<http://www.houseofj
>ordan.com>com
>
>Thanks for any and all help,
>T. Micheal Jordan
>House Of Jordan Entertainment
><http://www.houseofjordan.com>http://www.houseofjordan.<http://www.houseofj
>ordan.com>com
><mailto:label@houseofjordan.com>label@houseofjordan.<mailto:label@houseofjo
>rdan.com>com
________________________________________________
The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage
perhaps in music, because that art contains no material
to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value,
and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses.
--Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:14:51 +0000
From: Philippe Dupuis <dupuisph@nb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: cd's i'm wondering about
hello,
does anyone know these following albums ...
Jimi Tenor : Out of nowheres
is there alot of "funk" on this album, i like the idea that it's a
full pop orchestra album but i read something that mentioned
some funk stuff in it. that i don't like as much.
Between Heaven and Earth Traditional music of Bali
Maher Shalal Hash Baz: From a Summer to another Summer
John Cale : Paris 1919
Ohm: Early Guru's of Electronic Music (how is this package?)
that kronos Quartet album of a Feldman piece
is Stockhausen's HYMEN a hard thing to find now a days?
John Fahey's Voice of the Turtle
is there a good recording of zen buddist music out there?
thanks,
martin dupuis
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:16:05 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: cd's i'm wondering about
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:14:51 +0000 Philippe Dupuis wrote:
>
> is Stockhausen's HYMEN a hard thing to find now a days?
I ordered four records to Stockhausen's Verlag (including the 4xCD HYMNEN)
and they arrived yesterday. You could also get it from EMF, but at a higher
price.
Patrice.
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:33:55 -0500
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: cd's i'm wondering about
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 05:14:51PM +0000, Philippe Dupuis wrote:
> that kronos Quartet album of a Feldman piece
That's a good one -- though I preferred a radio broadcast I'd heard of
the same piece.
> is Stockhausen's HYMEN a hard thing to find now a days?
Probably on Virgin Records (*ducking*)
- --
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
| Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:25:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Paisley Fripp <spoonloop@yahoo.com>
Subject: top 10 od '00
1. Squarepusher - "Selection Sixteen"
2. u-ziq - "Lunatic Harness"
2. Diamanda Galas - "Malediction and Prayer"
4. Secret Chiefs 3 - "Eyes of Flesh, Eyes of Flame"
5. Eric Dolphy - "The Illinois Concert"
6. Elliott Sharp - "Field and Stream"
7. Cabbageboy - "Genetically Modified"
8. Napalm Death - "Words From the Exit Wound"
9. Charles Mingus - "Ah Um, Mingus"
10. Slew of Mothers of Invention albums (hey, I'm a
quarter of a century old), which, to my chagrin, I
found out that there really weren't that many of.
Speaking of the Mothers, does anybody know what
happened to the vocalist Ray Collins after "Cruisin'
With Ruben and the Jets"? He had such a great voice.
I've found myself frequently wishing that F.Z., God
bless him, would have relegated laryngeal duties more
often to R.C..
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:42:14 -0500
From: "Toula Ballas" <toulab@msn.com>
Subject: Phil Niblock- China and Sunsets
Just bought a video cassette from Forced Exposure called China and Sunsets.
Amazing!!! Phil Niblock does both audio and video. The setting is in
several parts of China and consists of Chinese folks in various labor tasks.
Not for everyone,
but if you dig Phil, it is essential.
Paul
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:45:20 -0500
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: top 10 od '00
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:25:23PM -0800, Paisley Fripp wrote:
> Speaking of the Mothers, does anybody know what
> happened to the vocalist Ray Collins after "Cruisin'
> With Ruben and the Jets"? He had such a great voice.
> I've found myself frequently wishing that F.Z., God
> bless him, would have relegated laryngeal duties more
> often to R.C..
See the discography at
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~splat/Ray_Collins.html
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|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:52:17 +0100
From: "Robert van Heumen" <robertvanheumen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: top 15 (questions)
......<francisco.lopez...untitled#92...2000>...
this is actually the first thing i heard from him. it's neither the noise
nor the almost absolute silence i expected. it reminded me much of gas (mike
ink, voigt) in the way his music sounds repeating at first, but then slowly
you discover the variations. the sounds used are much like vinyl crackles,
which mingle nicely with the real vinyl crickling. now i'm getting curious
to hear his other stuff, but it's difficult to get here in amsterdam...
......<dousidz...empties...2000>...
this is my absolute favorite! it's rock, but then the tzadik kind. catching
melodies, but also weird noise in between. and sexy vocals.
and yes, it is on tzadik. i think this is their first and only release. i
also heard melt banana/teeny shiny, but that was too 'thrashy' for me. at
least at first listen, they're still on my to-get list...
......<fizzarum...monochrome.plural...2000>...
more like the digital glitch kind of thing, mixed with the innocent melodies
like those of plone and styrofoam.
...r.o.b.b.i.e...d.i...h.e.u.m.o...
......<composer.of.electronic.music>...<software.&.website.developer>...<htt
p://hardhatarea.com>...
...<recommended.listening>...
......<francisco.lopez...untitled#92...2000>...
......<dousidz...empties...2000>...
......<fizzarum...monochrome.plural...2000>...
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:02:52 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: cd's i'm wondering about
At 05:14 PM 12/21/00 +0000, Philippe Dupuis wrote:
>
>is Stockhausen's HYMEN a hard thing to find now a days?
Very easy (although not necessarily cheap). http://www.stockhausen.org,
send him a check, wait eight weeks, voila. The old vinyl version shows up
regularly on ebay, but the cd set has hymnen accompanied by his improvising
group, which was never released on vinyl (AFAIK). There's also a separate
cd of the Third Region with orchestra, which I haven't heard.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance
like nobody's watching.
- -- Satchel Paige
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:33:50 +1030
From: "sinkas" <sinkas@camtech.net.au>
Subject: Estradasphere...not best in 2000
Hi all,
I am wondering why i didnt see more mentions of the band =
Estradasphere's debut album in the 2K lists?
Is this album considered a "wank" or something, I really like it with =
the exception of the length of the openening track, surely 20 mins on a =
kinda avant-rock album it too long. Maybe I had been listenenign to too =
much naked city before hand.
Case
=20
"Alma Matters"
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:41:32 +1030
From: "sinkas" <sinkas@camtech.net.au>
Subject: Things too look forward to in 2001?
Hi all,
Wondered if anyone would like to mention a few things they are lookng =
froward to in 2001, in terms of music issued and performance. Tie to =
stat budgeting for those "Must have" discs.
Things I have heard about/am looking forward to.
Secret Cheifs 3, possibly 2 new records.
Morrissey:Irish Blood, English Heart ( a deal sighned this week =
apparently)with Moby producing)
David Bowie:Toy plus the completion of t he "Outside trilogy"
Estradasphere: Buck Fever=20
Fantomas, supposedly 2 new records.
DJ Eddie Def, a debut record.
the Smiths: Complete box set.
Eyvind Kang: possibly 2 new albums
FORMS, opefully a debut full length release
thats a god start
"Alma Matters"
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:20:16 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Estradasphere...not best in 2000
<< I am wondering why i didnt see more mentions of the band Estradasphere's
debut album in the 2K lists?
Is this album considered a "wank" or something, I really like it with the
exception of the length of the openening track, surely 20 mins on a kinda
avant-rock album it too long. Maybe I had been listenenign to too much naked
city before hand. >>
I'm thinking firstly that not that many people have it to start with. I do,
but even then I forgot all about it when compiling my list, so didn't even
consider it. Even if I had, however, I probably wouldn't have included
anyway. I like the ideas (I was a big fan of the Don Salsa album and a few
of the ideas have been recycled) but I think they need to hone their
arrangement skills, as you point out the opening track is too long and a few
others could do with some work too. And while I'm at it, I also don't think
all of the performances on the album are all that great - in particular, the
violinist always sounds a bit scratchy and out of tune to me...
- -
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:39:18 -0800 (PST)
From: pak <jpaknichols@yahoo.com>
Subject: greetings
hello...i'm new to the list but not to zorn's
work...my name is pak (pronounced "pock") and i live
in tallassee, alabama (a tiny town that probably no
one has ever heard of)...
i have a question...i'm going to be attending the bar
korbha ( i know that is spelled wrong, sorry) show at
tonic on new year's eve in new york city...does anyone
know much about this venue?...i've seen zorn at the
knitting factory and the cat's cradle in chapel hill
and he seems to have a knack for playing at good
venues...also, i was wondering if anyone knows about
mr. zorn's attitude towards the taping of his live
shows, as i would like to tape this new year's eve
show if possible...
it is a honor to be on this list and i hope i didn't
offend anyone with horrible spelling and
such...english is a second language to me and i
apologize in advance...
i would also like to extend holiday greetings to all
on the list...thank you!
pak
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:34:00 -0800 (PST)
From: pak <jpaknichols@yahoo.com>
Subject: best of 2000 (almost)
hi again...my list of best albums in 2000 is as
follows and i'm not really sure if all of these were
released in 2000 or not...but i think they are good
and if you don't have them, give them a chance...this
is no particular order...here goes...
radiohead: kid a
john zorn: xu feng
eugene chadbourne: baptist church
medeski martin and wood: the dropper
john frusciante: niandra lades and usually just a
t-shirt
sonic youth: nyc ghosts and flowers
john zorn: book of heads
there are some others i have neglected to mention, but
i take a lot of psychiatric medication, so forgive
me...
pak
"life's a bath, sex is water..." -- john frusciante
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:10:08 -0800 (PST)
From: pak <jpaknichols@yahoo.com>
Subject: another best album i forgot to mention
heloo...i forgot to mention "69 love songs" by the
magnetic fields...it is very rare for me to listen to
three CDs by the same band in a row, but stephin
merritt is in my opinion our generation's brian wilson
and cole porter rolled into one...also a mention for
the joy division 4 CD box set and the five CD captain
beefheart box set "grow fins"...i think that is it...
pak
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:15:20 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: best of 2000 (almost)
> medeski martin and wood: the dropper
I just saw the credits for this album at CDnow, and it said that all tracks
were by Medeski. Is this right? Isn't MMW's stuff usually by all three
members? Could this be a reason why this one is getting more favourable
reviews?
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:33:11 -0500
From: "Me" <frunobulax@mpinet.net>
Subject: Re: best of 2000 (almost)
it's incredibly nice to find another john frusciante fan on this list. his
music has touched me in ways that i never knew was possible. though this
album was released YEARS ago.....it should be at the top of anyones "best
of" list. anyway, i don't really remember why i started to write this, but
if you don't have one of his albums...definitely check one out.
> john frusciante: niandra lades and usually just a
> t-shirt
>
> "life's a bath, sex is water..." -- john frusciante
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:24:26 -0500
From: Peter Gannushkin <shkin@shkin.com>
Subject: Re[2]: best of 2000 (almost)
Hello Julian,
Friday, December 22, 2000, you wrote to me:
>> medeski martin and wood: the dropper
J> I just saw the credits for this album at CDnow, and it said that all tracks
J> were by Medeski. Is this right? Isn't MMW's stuff usually by all three
J> members? Could this be a reason why this one is getting more favourable
J> reviews?
Definitely it is not right. All compositions are by MMW except "Note
Bleu" which is certainly the main hit on the album and it is by John Medeski.
I wonder why so many people mentioned "The Dropper". What about
"Tonic" which was released this year too?
- --
Best regards,
Peter Gannushkin
e-mail: shkin@shkin.com
URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:48:57 -0800 (PST)
From: pak <jpaknichols@yahoo.com>
Subject: the new year's tonic show
hello...been drinking lots of coffee and reading
emails...i am happy that some of you have replied to
my emails...i have a question...is anyone on the list
going to the new year's eve tonic show in nyc?...if
so, reply to me personally and perhaps we can meet and
have a few drinks or something...i'm going to be
staying at the chelsea from the 28th to the 2nd of
january with two of my good friends from
alabama...this is a special road trip to record music
in the hotel and to see john zorn and marc ribot and
cyro baptista and so on and so on and et cetera
:)...like i said before, please reply to me personally
so that we don't clutter up the list...thanks everyone
for yr attention!...
pak
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