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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #194
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Zorn List Digest Monday, December 11 2000 Volume 03 : Number 194
In this issue:
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Re[2]: David Krakauer - The Russian Shers (A New Hot One)
Re: Re[2]: David Krakauer - The Russian Shers (A New Hot One)
usic ithout orders
raymond scott + don byron on NPR
Tzadik Radical Jewish Culture
Diamanda Galas
Coming to NYC: Suggestions
Pharoah Sanders with the Ritual Trio in Chicago
Re: usic ithout orders
Re: Coming to NYC: Suggestions
Ooops! (was Re: Coming to NYC: Suggestions)
Completely not Zorn-Related
Re: french pop
Eyvind Kang "Sweetness of Sickness"
Another Black Woman reissue
Re: Another Black Woman reissue
Re: Eyvind Kang "Sweetness of Sickness"
Re: Eyvind Kang "Sweetness of Sickness"
Re: Diamanda Galas
bwitched
Tomorrow night
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 18:59:31 +0100
From: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann@gmx.de>
Subject: Re[2]: David Krakauer - The Russian Shers (A New Hot One)
A NEW HOT ONE is Krakauers recent release. And I know this piece from
this disk.
But I heard the melody somewhere else. It might have another name.
I never heard KLETKA RED, so don't think I this is the source.
PEACE
Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de
Saturday, December 09, 2000, 1:39:46 AM, you wrote:
Patrice> On Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:23:46 +1100 "Julian" wrote:
>>
>> Does Krakauer have a new cd?
>> Well, I was curious, so I did a little search on cdnow and found a band
>> playing a piece called Russian Shers. I guess it is a traditional piece, to
>> me it sounds similar to a piece on the Kletka Red album "Hijacking"...
Patrice> I saw in France (late September):
Patrice> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrice> *** - A NEW HOT ONE: David Krakauer
Patrice> David Krakauer: clarinet; Mark Stewart: electric guitar; Ted Reichman:
Patrice> accordion; Pablo Aslan: bass; Nicky Parrott (1,2): bass; Kevin Norton:
Patrice> drums.
Patrice> 2000 - Label Bleu (France), LBLC 6617/HM 83 (CD)
Patrice> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrice> Patrice.
Patrice> -
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:24:44 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: David Krakauer - The Russian Shers (A New Hot One)
> A NEW HOT ONE is Krakauers recent release. And I know this piece from
> this disk.
> But I heard the melody somewhere else. It might have another name.
> I never heard KLETKA RED, so don't think I this is the source.
Yes, well it is probably a klezmer standard, so there are probably thousands
of places you could have heard it (including the last wedding you went to).
And you're right, they often pop up with different names, sometimes due to
the fact that the name is not known by the artist...
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:32:18 EST
From: User384726@aol.com
Subject: usic ithout orders
Please COPY and PASTE this petition it to a separate page, add your
name and place of residence, and then forward it to EVERYONE you know,
even if
you don't sign it. Thank you for caring about music.
The following supporters of the Canadian and American Music Industry
demand that bands who wish to play across the border be allowed to do
so. Crossing the border to play a concert is almost
impossible for both American and Canadian acts. We are tired of paying
for concerts with an out-of-country headliner only to find out that
they couldn't get across the border. We are tired of booking tours for
our
bands only to be turned away. We believe it is imperative to assert a
new law that will make it easier for touring bands to get into Canada
and the United States without applying for a work permit that costs
more than most local bands make playing across the border.
If you receive this list and it has 100 people on it,
please return it to < mailto:kris10@canada.comkris10@canada.com
<mailto:kris10@canada.comkris10@canada.com> >
1)Kristen Pettinger, Abbotsford BC
2)Anne Lomas, Abbotsford BC
3)Ryan Carmichael, Abbotsford BC
4) Adam Carmichael, Abbotsford BC
5) Scott Laming, Victoria BC
6) Ivy Profen, Richmond BC
7) Amanda Stroy, Surrey, BC
8) Jordan Eshpeter, Richmond BC
9) Billy Bones, Kamloops BC
10) Krista Bones, Kamloops BC
11) Jeremy Olfert, Regina SK
12) Tanya Olfert, Regina, SK
13) Kael Olfert, Regina, SK
14) Mike Peters, winnipeg, MB
15) Jason Kolins, Surrey, BC
16) Jeff Lambert, Compton, QC
17) Ben Lambert, North Hatley, QC
18) Jesse Gendron, Ascot, QC
19) Marc-Andr=E9 Simard,la Baie,QC
20) Marie-Pier Gagn=E9,la baie,Qc
21) Noel: Inertia Entertainment, Toronto, Ont
22) Steve Michaels, Toronto, ON
23) Wendy Wright, Mississauga, ON
24) Stefane Lemieux. Mississauga, ON
25) Mike Stephens, Oakville, ON
26) Loretta Smalley, Windsor, ON
27) Albert Asood, Sudbury, ON
28) Michel Lafite, Sherbrooke, QC
29) Stanley Turcotte, Nepean, ON
30) Ahmed Zafir, Toronto, ON
31) Walter VanZant, Scarborough, ON
32) Jessica Samuels, Scarborough, ON
33) Jo Anne Matthews, Scarborough, ON
34) Jonathan Ramos, Toronto ON
35) Evan Thompson,Toronto ON
36) Julie Remy, Toronto, ON
37) Claudette Gravel, Toronto, ON
38) Linda Woods, Toronto ON
39) Peter Hardman, Toronto ON
40)Christian Breton, Mont Saint-Hilaire, QC
41)Maxime Benoit, Longueuil Beach, Qc
42) Ed Linares, Montreal, Qc
43) Paul Etch, Montreal, QC
44) beth custer, San francisco, CA
45) fred frith, oakland, CA
46) Nick Didkovsky, NYC, NY
47) Ian M. Davis, Chapel Hill, NC
48) Eric Roth, Chicago, IL
49) Phil Mosberg, Chicago, IL
50) Aaron Solomon Chicago, IL
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:11:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: raymond scott + don byron on NPR
Tonight I heard a nice feature on Raymond Scott and an
interview with Don Byron on the National Public Radio
syndicated show Amercan Routes, which originates from
New Orleans. I've had trouble with my computer and
the show's site, but I believe you can listen to at
least these features in the archive:
http://www.americanroutes.com
The Raymond Scott connection is perhaps highly
topical, in some superficial and some strangely
relevant ways. Scott apparently beat Zappa to a
frustration with the musician as a corrupting medium
to realization, and turned to electronics and the
studio to eliminate this mediation. He also wrote
"music for children," though it is (from the sample
provided) rather odd proto-ambient electronica. Some
of the electronic pieces sound prescient. I also
notice Scott's connection as a direct---correct me if
I'm wrong---antecedent and providor of source material
to Carl Stalling, a tremendous early inspiration for
Zorn. I know Scott's music has been discussed, some
time back, on this list. Just thought I'd toss this
interview in as a great appreciation for an oddity,
and perhaps a truly great albeit marginalized
composer.
- ----s
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- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:20:57 +0100
From: Fred <saknai@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Tzadik Radical Jewish Culture
Hi there !
I don't remember if it has already been discussed down there, but I have a
question on the tzadik radical jewish culture series. As far as I know,
there is no number 40 on this series, does anybody knows why ?
Have a nice Sunday !
- -fred
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:01:09 +1030
From: "sinkas" <sinkas@camtech.net.au>
Subject: Diamanda Galas
Hi there,
this person is coming to my city, should I go see her (?)
Sorry if its totally off topic, but I saw the term "Avant Garde" in a =
website, and thought you learned friedns may have a worthy opinion=20
Case
"Alma Matters"
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:23:36 -0800
From: dennis summers <dennisqdw@home.com>
Subject: Coming to NYC: Suggestions
Common question to the list. I'll be coming to NYC from Dec 19-23. Can
anyone give me any recommendations on music or art events that they are
aware of that would interest the average zornlister.
thanx --ds
Dennis Summers
Quantum Dance Works
members.home.net/dennisqdw/
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:52:07 -0500
From: "Toula Ballas" <toulab@msn.com>
Subject: Pharoah Sanders with the Ritual Trio in Chicago
A brief review of the Ritual Trio (Ari Brown, Malachi Favors, Kahil El
Zabar) with Pharoah. For those who don't know,the Ritual Trio is a
longstanding tradition in Chicago and a superb trio. Long compositions,
generally very lyrical with plenty of room for each personality to speak.
Malachi Favors (bassist for the Art Ensemble of Chicago) is a particular
treat as he
doesn't play live here very often. Ari played piano primarily while Pharoah
roamed free on tenor all night. Blistering
moments of beauty that ranks with the best I've ever seen this group. The
encore was a twenty minute version of some blues number (I think its called
"Every day I've got the blues" with Pharoah singing and dancing his ass off.
Paul
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:19:13 -0500
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: usic ithout orders
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:32:18AM -0500, User384726@aol.com wrote:
> Please COPY and PASTE this petition it to a separate page, add your
> name and place of residence, and then forward it to EVERYONE you know,
> even if
> you don't sign it. Thank you for caring about music.
While the purpose is worthwhile and the senders' intentions are good,
such petitions are ineffective and can be counterproductive. See
Phil Agre's "Designing Effective Action Alerts for the Internet" at
http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/alerts.html
A relevant section:
"DO NOT use a chain-letter petition. A chain-letter petition is an
action alert that includes a list of names at the end; it invites people to
add their own name to the list, send in the petition if their name is the 30th
or 60th etc, and in anycase forward the resulting alert-plus-signature-list
to everyone they know. This idea sounds great in the abstract, but it
really doesn't work. The problem is that most of the signatures will never
reachtheir destination, since the chain will fizzle out before reaching
the next multiple of 30 in length. What's even worse, a small proportion
of the signatures will be received in the legislator's office many times,
thus annoying the staff and persuading them that they're dealing with an
incompetent movement that can never hold them accountable."
While this petition is not headed for legislators, the great majority
of signatures will be wasted due to the fizzling-out feature. Agre's
article has good pointers on how to do alerts effectively.
- --
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
| Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
| Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List |
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:43:27 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Coming to NYC: Suggestions
dennis summers wrote:
> Common question to the list. I'll be coming to NYC from Dec 19-23. Can
> anyone give me any recommendations on music or art events that they are
> aware of that would interest the average zornlister.
Here's what I came up with:
All week:
World Saxophone Quartet, Dec. 19-24, Iridium, a reasonably pricy jazz
supper club - members for this are Oliver Lake, James Spaulding, Bluiett
(as he is now known) and David Murray
December 19:
Melvin Gibbs & John Medeski at Tonic, 8 p.m.
Phillip Johnston's Transparent Quartet at Knitting Factory, 8 p.m.
Frank London 'Invocations' CD release concert (with Anthony Coleman,
harmonium), Merkin Hall, 8 p.m.
December 20:
Benefit for the Amputees of Sierra Leone: Healing Hands Percussion Circle
with Vernon Reid at Tonic, 8 p.m. ($25, but it's a fundraiser...)
Karen Mantler, David Garland & Marianne Nowottny, Knitting Factory, 8 p.m.
(an evening of fractured art-song, it appears...)
December 21:
Elliott Sharp & David Krakauer at Tonic, Dec. 21, 8 p.m.
New Pyramid String Quartet at Knitting Factory Old Office, 8 & 9:30 p.m.
(Dominic Duval's group, formerly known as the Cecil Taylor String Quartet)
Mingus Big Band at the Fez, 8 & 10 p.m.
Phill Niblock Winter Solstice Celebration at Experimental Intermedia, 6
p.m.-midnight (music and film/video)
December 22:
Marty Ehrlich's Travelers Tales at Tonic, 8 p.m. (Tony Malaby, Jerome
Harris, Bobby Previte) - you can also stick around and catch Gary Lucas's
Gods and Monsters at 10 p.m. and Steven Bernstein's Millennial Territory
Orchestra at midnight.
Curtis Fowlkes Catfish Corner at Knitting Factory Old Office, 8 and 9:30
p.m.
Charles Mingus Orchestra at City Hall (the restaurant, not the seat of
power), 8 & 10 p.m.
Lemme know if you're also looking for listings for the night of the 23rd.
Also, keep an eye on http://www.jazznewyork.org/ for late-breaking news.
And check out http://www.nytoday.com for art listings from the New York
Times.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:49:48 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Ooops! (was Re: Coming to NYC: Suggestions)
Sorry, folks, meant to send that long laundry list to Dennis only. Sorry to
intrude with stuff most of you won't care about...
SS
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:15:34 -0500
From: "Risser Family" <risser@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Completely not Zorn-Related
Has anyone had any success with language tapes for learning a language. I'm
thinking I could spend wasted commuting time learning something useful.
email offline if you have success stories to share.
Thanks,
Peter
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:39:43 -0800
From: Radio Khartoum <xander@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: french pop
Say, what's this? I love Boris Vian (and Andre Popp for that matter)
as much as the next guy, but is there no French pop of note that's
contemporary? Au contraire!
(Hell, no one even mentioned Air).
A few of my favorite (regardless of nationality) currently active,
and currently good (that rules out France Gall!) pop artists, who
happen to be French:
Bertrand Burgalat
Ignatus
Katerine
Toog/Gilles Weinzaepflen
Julien Ribot
Dominique A
Etienne Charry
Mr. Quark
Savel
Gypsophile
Essiar
Watoo Watoo
Shop
Disclaimer: the last four have or will release records on RK. I was
going to leave Watoo Watoo out as too wimpy for the Zorn list, but if
you can handle Claudine, you can handle anything...
Alexander
- --
Radio Khartoum http://www.radiokhartoum.com
- -
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:40:51 +1030
From: "sinkas" <sinkas@camtech.net.au>
Subject: Eyvind Kang "Sweetness of Sickness"
Hi all,
Ive been a fan of Eyvinds work for a while and I thought I had all his =
work, until I came across this title, at CDDB, alas It didnt give a =
recording lable or anythig, with the exception of a march 99 release =
date.
Does anyone know where I can get this, as none of the big net retialers =
seem to stock it,=20
is it a bootleg??
Case
"Alma Matters"
- -
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:11:03 -0500
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Another Black Woman reissue
Just a heads up to those who didn't drop the 20 something
dollars for the Japanese reissue of Sonny Sharrock's Black Woman.
Theres now a budget priced two-fer pairing Black Woman with Wayne
Henderson's Freedom Sounds(of all things) CDnow has it for 13.99.
- --
- ----------------------------------
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http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/4306/main.html
The Sonny Sharrock Visual Discography
http://www.sharrockdiscography.com
The Garage Sale
http://www.amazon.com/shops/punkjazz
- -
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:24:55 -0500
From: "Jesse Kudler" <jkudler@mail.wesleyan.edu>
Subject: Re: Another Black Woman reissue
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Williams" <punkjazz@snet.net>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: Another Black Woman reissue
> Just a heads up to those who didn't drop the 20 something
Or 30-something.
> dollars for the Japanese reissue of Sonny Sharrock's Black Woman.
> Theres now a budget priced two-fer pairing Black Woman with Wayne
> Henderson's Freedom Sounds(of all things) CDnow has it for 13.99.
I asked this on another list but got no reply: Does anyone know if there's
much of a mastering difference between the two versions of Black Woman? And
what is Freedom Sounds like?
Thanks,
Jesse
- -
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:58:22 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Eyvind Kang "Sweetness of Sickness"
<< Does anyone know where I can get this, as none of the big net retialers
seem to stock it,
is it a bootleg?? >>
It was actually released in 96 on the 'Rabid Dog Inoculator' label (unless
there was a 99 reissue?). It's very noisy and experimental, much more so
even than 7 NADEs, and in my opinion, it is not really essential Kang, but
you may disagree, especially if you are into his most noisy/messy side. I
don't remember where I got it but I think it may have been Aquarius Records.
- -
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:05:33 +0100 (CET)
From: zxmqq16@student.uni-tuebingen.de
Subject: Re: Eyvind Kang "Sweetness of Sickness"
> don't remember where I got it but I think it may have been Aquarius Records.
at least it is available from them: www.aquariusrecordssf.com
bjoern
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:12:23 +0100
From: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Her performances are said to be the most extraordinary ones.
I've seen her at Saalfelden this summer with a solo show. It was
cruel, brutal, but really amazing.
PEACE
Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de
Sunday, December 10, 2000, 1:31:09 PM, you wrote:
sinkas> Hi there,
sinkas> this person is coming to my city, should I go see her (?)
sinkas> Sorry if its totally off topic, but I saw the term "Avant Garde" in a website, and thought you learned friedns may have a worthy opinion
sinkas> Case
sinkas> "Alma Matters"
sinkas> -
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:43:57 +0100 (CET)
From: zxmqq16@student.uni-tuebingen.de
Subject: bwitched
dont know if that has been discussed here before....
there is this zorn-interview (not really an interview) on the b-witched
page (irish girl group) saying that zorn might produce their next album...
probably this is a joke and i dont get it due to my language limitations.
could someone tell me what this is all about:
http://gwu.edu/~vynyl/bwitched/interviews.html
bjoern
- -
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:24:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Grey ElkGel <greyelkgel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Tomorrow night
8pm Tuesday, December 12, 2000
| Jack Wright: saxophones
| Greg Kelley: trumpet
| Mike Bullock: double bass
$6 Admission
Knitactive Sound Stage
74 Leonard Street
New York, NY 10013
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