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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #143
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, October 26 2000 Volume 03 : Number 143
In this issue:
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soundtrax
Naked City
Re: soundtrax
Politics, Zorn, and Lou
Re: Renaud Garcia-Fons(No Zorn)
Re: Hermann/The thing/Tarkovsky/Karetnikov
Re: Hermann/The thing/Tarkovsky/Karetnikov
NYCentric - Fripp
RE: Renaud Garcia-Fons(No Zorn)
Re: Look at the Riot I've caused/Canadian politics
animation
Re: animation
Re: bart/general CD question
Re: Look at the Riot I've caused/Canadian politics
Re: completism
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:48:36 -0400
From: "Bob Kowalski" <BKowalski@genetics.com>
Subject: soundtrax
How could I forget??? Is it too late for a late entry???=20
In steady rotation on the disc player, more so than most of my faves =
previously listed, would be Frisell's two soundtracks to Buster Keaton's =
silent films. Go West is my favorite (and one of my top faves overall for =
Frisell) but High Sign / One Week is great as well.
So I see zornsters are big soundtrack fans. No big surprise - there are =
so many great soundtracks out there and some of my favorite artists (all =
genres) I first heard via soundtracks (or compilation discs but should we =
all agree not to start listing those)
=3D )
happy listening
Bob
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:06:41 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
Subject: Naked City
Hello list,
I've had Naked City's debut album for a long time and I finally purchased
the BLACK BOX. Touture Garden has the fastpaced songs found in the debut,
and Leng Tch'e is a very slow brutal track, but are the other NC albums like
the Jazz part of the debut? Do we have some other Latin Quarter or Inside
Straight in the rest of the NC albums?
Thanks
Neil H. Enet
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NP: PLACEBO - placebo
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:43:07 -0400
From: "Me" <frunobulax@mpinet.net>
Subject: Re: soundtrax
this is somewhat unrelated, but has anyone picked up the soundtrack to the
movie THE CELL? i went to the movie (jennifer lopez......come on, how
could i not?) i found that the soundtrack was quite interesting. anywho,
i picked it up and enjoy it quite a bit. wondering if anyone else feels the
same.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Kowalski <BKowalski@genetics.com>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: soundtrax
> How could I forget??? Is it too late for a late entry???
>
> In steady rotation on the disc player, more so than most of my faves
previously listed, would be Frisell's two soundtracks to Buster Keaton's
silent films. Go West is my favorite (and one of my top faves overall for
Frisell) but High Sign / One Week is great as well.
>
> So I see zornsters are big soundtrack fans. No big surprise - there are
so many great soundtracks out there and some of my favorite artists (all
genres) I first heard via soundtracks (or compilation discs but should we
all agree not to start listing those)
>
> = )
>
> happy listening
>
> Bob
>
>
> -
>
>
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:20:10 -0700
From: mcizon@800.com
Subject: Politics, Zorn, and Lou
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First of all, it sounds like our friend is a "Type A" Libertarian as opposed
to a "Type B" one. The difference:
Type A - Democrats who don't want to pay taxes.
Type B - Republicans who want to do drugs.
An oversimplification, yes, but I think a little humor is needed in this
amazingly off-topic thread.
This is also a pretty funny Onion article:
http://www.theonion.com/onion3624/libertarian_convention.html
Now, ON topic - does anyone know any details for Filmworks IX "Trembling
Before G-d"? It's now on all the major e-commerce sites but the Tzadik page
hasn't been updated to include it.
Also, for those who are "down" with noise, Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music"
has been reissued by Buddha Records. It has limited "holographic foil"
packaging, new liner notes, Lou's original notes, and has been remastered
(what good that'll do, I don't know). Naturally, I'm upset about this as I
bought it at import prices a year ago. Just my luck - same thing happened
with Donald Byrd's "Ethiopian Knights."
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>First of all, it sounds like our friend is a =
"Type A" Libertarian as opposed to a "Type B" one. =
The difference:</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE=3D2>Type A - =
Democrats who don't want to pay taxes.</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE=3D2>Type B - =
Republicans who want to do drugs.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>An oversimplification, yes, but I think a little =
humor is needed in this amazingly off-topic thread.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is also a pretty funny Onion article: </FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.theonion.com/onion3624/libertarian_convention.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.theonion.com/onion3624/libertarian_conventi=
on.html</A></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Now, ON topic - does anyone know any details for =
Filmworks IX "Trembling Before G-d"? It's now on all the =
major e-commerce sites but the Tzadik page hasn't been updated to =
include it. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Also, for those who are "down" with noise, =
Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" has been reissued by Buddha =
Records. It has limited "holographic foil" packaging, new =
liner notes, Lou's original notes, and has been remastered (what good =
that'll do, I don't know). Naturally, I'm upset about this as I bought =
it at import prices a year ago. Just my luck - same thing happened with =
Donald Byrd's "Ethiopian Knights."</FONT></P>
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:21:37 +0200
From: Pascal Cortes <Pascal.Cortes@dstu.univ-montp2.fr>
Subject: Re: Renaud Garcia-Fons(No Zorn)
Well, Garcias Fons is a classically taught contrabassist, that's where he
got is technique for both bow and pizzicato.=20
About 10 years ago, he started to play jazz and oriental flavoured music
with the likes of Claude Barth=E9l=E9my (ONJ 92/93 on Label Bleu), Flamenco
Guitarist Pedro Soler ("suite andalouse pour contrebasse et guitare", -Al
Sur-), with guitarist G=E9rard Marais ("Free Songs" -Hopi-), accordeonist
G=E9rard Matinier.... He plays also with lebanese oud player (now living in
Germany) Rabih Abou Khalil (I don't know if that was recorded, at least
they toured together).... he plays also with the Italian reedist Gianluigi
Trovesi (Round About a midsummers dream -Enja-)
Most of his music is acoustic, with spanish and arabian flavours and a a
great dose of improvisation.
You can find a bio at:
http://www.labelhopi.com/english/html/artistes/garcia/garciabiogb.htm
or at: http://www.enjarecords.com/GARCIA-FONS.htm
an interview at:
http://www.labelhopi.com/english/html/artistes/garcia/jazzmagb.htm
And if you want to buy records from french artists like Garcia-Fons, the
best place should be: fnac.com (or alapage.com).
Hope it can help.
Pascal
(np: Wedding bands from Rajahstan "Disco Bhangra" -Avant-)
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:42:37 -0700
From: "First Name Last Name" <antizoyd@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Hermann/The thing/Tarkovsky/Karetnikov
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:19:50 -0500
>To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
>From: Moudry <Moudry@uab.edu>
>Subject: Re: Hermann/The thing/Tarkovsky/Karetnikov
>The first (and by far superior) version of The Thing : from another world
>did have the Tiomkin sound track; the horrible Carpenter remake may well
>have a Morricone soundtrack (which would be the only thing that could make
>me want to see it).
You haven't seen the Carpenter version? But the first is far superior and the remake is horrible.... hmmmmmm......
Just curious on what you based your comparison then.
zoyd
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- --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
Before you buy.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:55:22 -0500
From: Moudry <Moudry@uab.edu>
Subject: Re: Hermann/The thing/Tarkovsky/Karetnikov
At 12:42 26-10-00 -0700, Zoyd wrote:
> >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:19:50 -0500
> >To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> >From: Moudry <Moudry@uab.edu>
> >Subject: Re: Hermann/The thing/Tarkovsky/Karetnikov
>
> >The first (and by far superior) version of The Thing : from another world
> >did have the Tiomkin sound track; the horrible Carpenter remake may well
> >have a Morricone soundtrack (which would be the only thing that could make
> >me want to see it).
>
>You haven't seen the Carpenter version? But the first is far superior and
>the remake is horrible.... hmmmmmm......
>Just curious on what you based your comparison then.
>zoyd
<snip!>
Some days my (excuse for a) brain far outpaces my fingers on the keyboard:
I should have typed the word "again" at the end of that parenthetical
aside. Saw it once, but have absolutely no memory of the music for the
soundtrack (was so bummed out by the remake, I guess). Even though the
first version of The Thing" is still a fave, it pales in comparison to John
Campbell's short novel (on which it/they is/are based).
Sorry for the unintentional confusion.
Saturnally,
Joe Moudry
Office of Academic Computing & Technology
School of Education, The University of Alabama @ Birmingham
Master of Saturn Web (Sun Ra, the Arkestra, & Free Jazz):
<http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry>
Producer/Host of Classic Jazz & Creativ Improv on Alabama Public Radio:
WUAL 91.5FM Tuscaloosa/Birmingham
WQPR 88.7FM Muscle Shoals/NW Alabama
WAPR 88.3FM Selma/Montgomery/Southern Alabama
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:37:59 -0400
From: "Jim McLoughlin" <jim@intelligenesis.net>
Subject: NYCentric - Fripp
Hi
Given all the king crimson discussion that goes on, I wanted to drop a note
about these free upcoming perfromances.
It's at the Winter Garden in the World Financial Center. I saw Stephen
Scott's bowed piano ensemble there last night. It's sort of a strange space
for serious music - a fair amount of ambiant noise from nearby restaurants,
stores, and the finance folks on their way home. Since he's doing
soundscapes, he may be able to turn it to his advantage...
Jim
http://www.worldfinancialcenter.com/calendar/default_page3.html
11/28-11/30
ROBERT FRIPP IN RESIDENCE
During this three-day residency, the founding and continuing member of King
Crimson improvises his atmospheric SOUNDSCAPES which, like their forerunner
FRIPPERTRONCIS, are based on delay, repetition, and hazard.
This concert is part of our NEW SOUNDS LIVE series, curated by WNYC's John
Schaefer, who has hosted and produced the popular radio series New Sounds
since 1982. It will be rebroadcast on WNYC.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:26:44 -0300
From: "Gustavo Broggi" <ghbroggi@delta.com.ar>
Subject: RE: Renaud Garcia-Fons(No Zorn)
There┤s another cd called Acoustic Songs, where he plays with guitarrist
Gerard Marais. Amazing work!!, quiet but not boring a all. It includes
versions of standards such as Monk┤s Pannonica, and Misterioso, and a couple
of little jewels: Ornette Coleman┤s Lonely woman, and Suzanne Vega┤s Tom┤s
Dinner. Imho an important detail is that Renaud Garcia Fons plays a 5
string Bass, which sometimes sounds like a cello, especially when he uses
the bow.
Best
Gustavo
- -----Mensaje original-----
De: Pascal Cortes <Pascal.Cortes@dstu.univ-montp2.fr>
Para: Marius Ergo <mariusergo@hotmail.com>; zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
<zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Fecha: Jueves 26 de Octubre de 2000 15:22
Asunto: Re: Renaud Garcia-Fons(No Zorn)
Well, Garcias Fons is a classically taught contrabassist, that's where he
got is technique for both bow and pizzicato.
About 10 years ago, he started to play jazz and oriental flavoured music
with the likes of Claude BarthΘlΘmy (ONJ 92/93 on Label Bleu), Flamenco
Guitarist Pedro Soler ("suite andalouse pour contrebasse et guitare", -Al
Sur-), with guitarist GΘrard Marais ("Free Songs" -Hopi-), accordeonist
GΘrard Matinier.... He plays also with lebanese oud player (now living in
Germany) Rabih Abou Khalil (I don't know if that was recorded, at least
they toured together).... he plays also with the Italian reedist Gianluigi
Trovesi (Round About a midsummers dream -Enja-)
Most of his music is acoustic, with spanish and arabian flavours and a a
great dose of improvisation.
You can find a bio at:
http://www.labelhopi.com/english/html/artistes/garcia/garciabiogb.htm
or at: http://www.enjarecords.com/GARCIA-FONS.htm
an interview at:
http://www.labelhopi.com/english/html/artistes/garcia/jazzmagb.htm
And if you want to buy records from french artists like Garcia-Fons, the
best place should be: fnac.com (or alapage.com).
Hope it can help.
Pascal
(np: Wedding bands from Rajahstan "Disco Bhangra" -Avant-)
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:03:16 +0000
From: Rick Lopez <bb10k@velocity.net>
Subject: Re: Look at the Riot I've caused/Canadian politics
on 10/26/00 3:30 PM, Ken Waxman at mingusaum@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Day 3 of the Canadian campaign:
Thank you Ken. Now we're getting to it. ;-)
What the hell is going on in Liberia, anyway???
music, Music, MUSIC,
RL
- ----------
Sessionographies: CRISPELL; IBARRA; Wm. PARKER; RIVERS; SHIPP; D.S. WARE.
Discographies: COURVOISIER; MANERI,; MORRIS; SPEARMAN; WORKMAN.
- --Samuel Beckett Eulogy--Baseball & the 10,000 Things--
Time Stops--LOVETORN--HARD BOIL-- ETC., at: http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k
UPDATE *June 25*, 2000:
Vids, a few CDs, baseball books, misc.
***Very Various For Sale: *** http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/4SALE.html
WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN??? : http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/LUCILLE.html
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:14:32 EDT
From: ObviousEye@aol.com
Subject: animation
if these names mean anything to anybody..please email me personally.
jan svankmajer
brothers quay
christiane cegavske
they are all animators ..movies.
i want to find more info on them.
thanks.
ben o. ..forever inquisitive about things not pertaining to zorn.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:06:37 EDT
From: BlackBook78@aol.com
Subject: Re: animation
In a message dated 10/26/2000 3:16:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ObviousEye@aol.com writes:
<< jan svankmajer >>
I've only seen/own Alice and Faust, as well as a collection of scripts for
short films that were never made.......
Pretty interesting stuff......
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:27:53 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: bart/general CD question
JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
> I would have actually preferred to release La Voyelle Liquide as a 2 CD=
set
> around 100 minutes, because there was at least that much great material=
, and
> because I feel like CDs which are 50-55 minutes tend to be more listena=
ble
> than ones that are 70-plus, but I was outvoted by G=FCnter and Ninh. an=
yway,
> I'm curious to hear what people think about this.
I can't honestly say I've ever taken the total time of a disc into
consideration when deciding whether or not to buy it, at least on the
long end. I could imagine balking at something sub-30 minutes (except,
as Caleb noted, special items like "Plexure" where 20 minutes is just
about right), but whether a disc runs 50 minutes or 78 never enters into
the equation.
btw, I agree on the very high quality of BART. Excellent stuff!
Brian Olewnick
NP: Carla Bley - Tropic Appetites
- -
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:45:09 -0400
From: Mathieu Belanger <belanmat@MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Re: Look at the Riot I've caused/Canadian politics
Hello,
>Day 3 of the Canadian campaign:
Not to forget that the plane of Jean Chretien had to land in emergency
because of an electric problem inside... Everybody's ok though so no need to
worry...
>(Unlike Italian politicians not one has been known to
>play the piano)
Yes, but I am sure they would learn if it would help them being elected...
ok, enough politics for today!
Mathieu
- -
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:00:04 +0000
From: Rick Lopez <bb10k@velocity.net>
Subject: Re: completism
on 10/24/00 3:30 PM, Andreas Dietz at andreasdietz@hotmail.com wrote:
>> From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
>>
>> But here are the artists from whom I've bought virtually every record >(as
>> leader, at least) and/or would buy them all if money were no >object:
I'm short about 10 Cecil Taylors.
Most of the rest revolve (as I do) around the discographies...
I've got all Crispells except:
Eric Andersen / Istanbul / EMI 1A 064-11-9196-1 (LP & VID) (film score)
Various Artists: Sampler A.V. Arts - Vol. 1 (Knitting Factory - MUWORKS)
Musiche, No. 13 (Mag & CS) 1992 IT
Various Artists: The Texaco New York Jazz Festival Radio Series Live at The
Knitting Factory
All Ibarra (easy)
All Shipp.
All Ware except:
Abdul Hannan / The Third World / Awareness AH-1 (LP)
Andrew Cyrille and Maono: Junction WHY NOT WN-014 STEREO/PA 7157 (LP) JAP
All Rivers except:
Various Artists / The Drums / impulse! IMP ASH-9272-3
Roots: Salutes the Saxophone, Volume 1 / IOR 7016-1 (LP) 1992 Ger
Each and every JoeMorris.
All Willi', Parker's except:
Jackson Krall & the Associated Big Band / Stork
Collective Qrtt: Dreamcatcher / Stork
Collective Qrtt: Bindu / Stork
Concrete: Musica Jazz Magazine, January 1998
Earl Freeman: The Universal Jazz Symphonette Presents Sound Craft 75 / Anima
Jackson Krall: & the Secret Music Society / Stork
Jemeel Moondoc: First Feeding / Muntu
Jemeel Moondoc: The Evening of the Blue Men / Muntu
William Parker/Tom Tedesco: Painter's Autumn / Centering
Penck LPs w/ William Parker
Amy Sheffer: Where's Your Home? / AM Shee
Amy Sheffer: We 'Um / AM Shee
Cecil Taylor: Nicaragua: No Parasan / Live in Willisau '83 / Nica
All but maybe 6 Maneri (Mat)
Just starting with Spearman.
Oh, and I have every Cibo Matto.
Looks like a damned wants list disguised as discussion to me,
RL
- ----------
Sessionographies: CRISPELL; IBARRA; Wm. PARKER; RIVERS; SHIPP; D.S. WARE.
Discographies: COURVOISIER; MANERI,; MORRIS; SPEARMAN; WORKMAN.
- --Samuel Beckett Eulogy--Baseball & the 10,000 Things--
Time Stops--LOVETORN--HARD BOIL-- ETC., at: http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k
UPDATE *June 25*, 2000:
Vids, a few CDs, baseball books, misc.
***Very Various For Sale: *** http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/4SALE.html
WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN??? : http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/LUCILLE.html
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