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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #139
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, October 25 2000 Volume 03 : Number 139
In this issue:
-
Re: Raul Ruiz
re: favorite soundtracks
marcel duchamp's "oeuvre musicale"
Re: marcel duchamp's "oeuvre musicale"
Bang on a can
Re: favourite soundtracks
Fwd: Between The Traditions: Sound of Language/Language of Sound
Odp: favourite soundtracks
soundtracks
(no subject)
Re: (no subject)
Re: (no subject)
Re: (no subject)
Re: (no subject)
Re: completism/musicians on film/jarmusch/ruiz
re: favorite soundtracks
Godard ---no zorn
Stilluppsteypa/TV Pow US tour
Re: Godard ---no zorn
re BANG ON A CAN
Re: Internet Radios
Re: Godard ---no zorn
Re: Internet Radios
Re: Godard ---no zorn
Re: completism/musicians on film/jarmusch/ruiz
RE: Godard ---no zorn
Tim Berne
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:51:23 -0400
From: "dmitry elentuck" <dmitry@gis.net>
Subject: Re: Raul Ruiz
Raul Ruiz has over 90 films behind his belt; unfortunately most of them
(especially pre-"Golden Boat" ones) are rather difficult to find.
My favorite movie of his is "On Top of the Whale"(1982) ("Shot in five
languages (one of them imaginary), this film concerns a European
anthropological expedition to Patagonia. The ethnologists set out to study a
tribe of Indians which now consists of merely two surviving members who
speak a strange language made up of only a few phrases (different meanings
are produced by varying the inflections)".
It is closely followed by "The Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting"(1978)
(screenplay by Pierre Klossowski), "Dog's Dialog"(1977) (short film
composed of still shots a la Chris Marker's "La Jetee"), and "Life is a
Dream".
His latest output has more structured, for the lack of better word,
"straight-forward" plots ("Genealogies of Crime", "Shattered Image" and
"Time Regained", latter being adaptation of Proust's novel) although "Three
Lives and Only Death" still has some disorienting qualities of his earlier
films.
Hope this helps,
Dmitry
P.S. If anybody knows where to get "Life is a Dream" on video, I would
appreciate the leads.
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:43:51 -0700
From: Todd Bramy <tbramy@oz.net>
Subject: re: favorite soundtracks
Off the top of my head:
- - Mississippi Burning
- - The Shining
- - Angel Heart
- - Barbarella (anyone know if this exsists on CD?)
- - Zabriski Point
- - Betty Blue
- - Diva
- - 2001
- - Passion
== todd ==
Comfort the disturbed, disturb the comfortable
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: marcel duchamp's "oeuvre musicale"
Since Jon brought M. Duchamp up vis-a-vis Keith Rowe's
comments about improvised music's (did Rowe actually
use the word "jazz"?) Duchampian epistemological
break, here's something marginally related, in ya'll
haven't yet seen it:
http://www.cdemusic.org/store/cde_search.cfm?keywords=dw101
- ---s
__________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:56:20 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: marcel duchamp's "oeuvre musicale"
In a message dated 10/24/00 2:52:19 PM, thesubtlebody@yahoo.com writes:
<< did Rowe actually
use the word "jazz"? >>
no, I don't think jazz per se has interested Rowe much since he was in Mike
Westbrook's band in the sixties. I don't think he used a specific term, we
both knew what he meant.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:55:27 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Subject: Bang on a can
Looking for some informations about "Bang on a can"
Jerzy
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:59:22 +0200
From: "dekater" <dekater@worldonline.nl>
Subject: Re: favourite soundtracks
- -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Jerzy Matysiakiewicz <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Aan: Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu>
CC: Zornowska lista <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Datum: dinsdag 24 oktober 2000 20:00
Onderwerp: Odp: favourite soundtracks
>
>| - 70's porn (the music is the best part)
>
>Yes. I want strongly recommend soundtrack to "Deep Throat" available in
>ForcedExposure.
>Real masterpiece
>And of course music to Russ Meyers moviec
>
>
>Jerzy
I second the opinion on the music to Russ Meyers movies. What about the
music to Betty Pages films?
And...er...Mancini? I like the score to 'Touch of Evil' (Orson Welles).
Jan Luyben
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:54:37 -0400
From: Perfect Sound Forever <perfect-sound@furious.com>
Subject: Fwd: Between The Traditions: Sound of Language/Language of Sound
I won't be able to make this myself but this sounds like something that
would interest other list members.
Best,
Jason
>Between The Traditions:
>The Sound of Language/ The Language of Sound
>
>Hosted by Steve Dalachinsky & Hersch Silverman
>
>An evening of music and poetry featuring an all-star line-up including
>Thurston Moore, Vito Ricci, Matthew Shipp, Lise Vachron, Lorne Mazzacane
>Connors, William Parker, Byard Lancaster, Roy Campbell and more.
>
>Saturday, October 28th, 8pm
>at The New York Open Center
>83 Spring Street (between Bway and Crosby)
>
>$9 ($7 members)
>info 212.219.2527
Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
perfect-sound@furious.com
http://www.furious.com/perfect
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:11:10 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Subject: Odp: favourite soundtracks
Ha, ha, ha. I think that users from behind the former Iron Curtain and from
Germany will agree with me that man shouldn't forget about the scores to the
DDR movies based on Karol May's books : "Winnetou" "Schatz in die Silbersee"
"Chingachgook Die Grosse Schlange" and so on, but I couldn't recall the name
of the composer.
Jerzy
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:21:55 +0200
From: "dekater" <dekater@worldonline.nl>
Subject: soundtracks
Forgot to mention Willem Breuker. He also made some great soundtracks.
Jan Luyben (who sometimes forgets things)
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:50:39 EDT
From: ObviousEye@aol.com
Subject: (no subject)
>City of Lost Children (Angelo Badalamenti w/ Marriane Faithful)
>
>Bob
is this movie good? i see the cover often while digging through the shelves
at video stores.
ben
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:58:43 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: (no subject)
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:50:39 EDT ObviousEye@aol.com wrote:
>
> >City of Lost Children (Angelo Badalamenti w/ Marriane Faithful)
> >
> >Bob
>
> is this movie good? i see the cover often while digging through the shelves
> at video stores.
This movie is one of the most amazing I have seen in a while. It is techni-
cally perfect (where did they get these sets?) and the story has the power
to appeal to any age (young like old), without falling in Disney kinddome.
No theory to illustrate or obscure message to convey, just a pure pleasure
for the eyes and the heart. A movie that operates on the visual side and
tickle your fancy (fairly wacky and nightmarish).
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:04:20 -0700
From: "s~Z" <keith@pfmentum.com>
Subject: Re: (no subject)
>City of Lost Children (Angelo Badalamenti w/ Marriane Faithful)
And don't miss its predecessor, _Delicatessan_, which is even better.
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:15:06 EDT
From: BlackBook78@aol.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)
In a message dated 10/24/2000 2:53:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ObviousEye@aol.com writes:
<< >City of Lost Children (Angelo Badalamenti w/ Marriane Faithful)
>
>Bob
is this movie good? i see the cover often while digging through the shelves
at video stores.
ben >>
I thought it was beautiful! And I saw it at the Music Box theater in Chicago
which added so much to the experience. Before I saw it, a friend felt that
it was a film that looked like it had been directed by Tim Burton and written
by David Lynch...
Unfortunately, Playstation made a video game out of it.......
Mike
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:11:00 +0000
From: Rick Lopez <bb10k@velocity.net>
Subject: Re: (no subject)
on 10/24/00 9:58 PM, Patrice L. Roussel at proussel@ichips.intel.com wrote:
>
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:50:39 EDT ObviousEye@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> City of Lost Children (Angelo Badalamenti w/ Marriane Faithful)
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> is this movie good? i see the cover often while digging through the shelves
>> at video stores.
>
> This movie is one of the most amazing I have seen in a while
I concur. I've always dug movies that create a convincing WAY-alternate
reality, and this is one of my favorites.
Oh, and to the list of S/Ts, --
BALKAN (name of CD)music by phillipe eidel and arnaud devos, for the film
BUNKER PALACE HOTEL. I love this music, but I've never seen the film.
Anyone?
And ***McCabe and Mrs. Miller*** -- LEONARD COHEN.
Is this one available on CD?
memory, memories,
RL
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:23:28 +1100
From: "Lee, Edgar" <Edgar.Lee@dva.gov.au>
Subject: Re: completism/musicians on film/jarmusch/ruiz
Isn't the track used in the Ghost Dog film called Nuba One from Jimmy Lyons,
Andrew Cyrille and Jeanne Lee's Nuba? Nuba features a wonderful variety of
percussion from Cecil Taylor associate Cyrille, as well as a some lovely
camels on the cover. Unfortunately this track is not on the soundtrack which
apparently for some contractual problems doesn't have RZA's music from the
film that it should have.
Edgar
NP Peril
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:47:53 -0500
From: Craig Rath <fripp@mn.mediaone.net>
Subject: re: favorite soundtracks
At 11:43 AM 10/24/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Off the top of my head:
>- The Shining
I can't believe I forgot that one. Launched me into my Penderecki craze.
Excellent use of music in a film.
Craig M. Rath
H: fripp@mn.mediaone.net
W: rathc@questarweb.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:33:37 EDT
From: ObviousEye@aol.com
Subject: Godard ---no zorn
sorry this post has no zorn, or other musical, content.
could anyone aid me in my quest for good films?
there seem to be so few mainstream films (besides Kubrick, Scorsese, etc.)
that are worthwhile, so i was thinking about digging into the underworld.
obviously a name that comes to mind is Godard, so where should i start with
him?
what are some others?
any help would be appreciated, and if you don't want to bore the list, send
correspondence directly to me.
oh, one final question: what is the best, cheapest store to buy movies from?
online or otherwise.
thanks.
ben
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:34:11 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Stilluppsteypa/TV Pow US tour
I think I posted this here a few weeks ago, but now that it's coming up, I
wanted to remind people about it.
Stilluppsteypa and TV Pow are both laptop trios, from Iceland and Chicago,
respectively. Stilluppsteypa have recorded for Ritornell, meme and Fire
Inc., and have a collaborative project with Sonic Youth in the works. TV Pow
have recorded for BOXmedia and Gentle Giant, as well as touring extensively
in Japan, playing with such musicians as Otomo Yoshihide, Taku Sugimoto and
Toshimaru Nakamura. They'll be releasing a collaborative CD on Erstwhile in
early 2001.
- ---------------------------------------------------
October 30, New York, NY @ Tonic - www.tonicnyc.com
October 31, New York @ Bard College
November 1, Washington DC @ Museum Of Contemporary Art DC w/87 Central
www.dc.net/vertical/MOCA.html
November 2, Pittsburgh, PA @ Millvale Industrial Theater w/Pineal Ventana,
Powder French www.mit.telerama.com
November 3, Detroit, MI @ Detroit Contemporary -
www.detroitcontemporary.com
November 4, Cleveland, OH @ Speak in Tongues - www.speakintongues.com
November 5, Chicago, IL @ Deadtech w/Illusion of Safety - www.deadtech.net
More Info:
Stilluppsteypa - http://www.fire-inc.demon.nl/stilluppsteypa.html
TV Pow - http://www.gentlegiantrecords.com/artists.htm# (click on TV Pow)
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
thanks for reading!
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:00:32 EDT
From: BlackBook78@aol.com
Subject: Re: Godard ---no zorn
In a message dated 10/24/2000 4:34:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ObviousEye@aol.com writes:
<< orry this post has no zorn, or other musical, content.
could anyone aid me in my quest for good films?
there seem to be so few mainstream films (besides Kubrick, Scorsese, etc.)
that are worthwhile, so i was thinking about digging into the underworld.
obviously a name that comes to mind is Godard, so where should i start with
him?
what are some others?
any help would be appreciated, and if you don't want to bore the list, send
correspondence directly to me.
oh, one final question: what is the best, cheapest store to buy movies from?
online or otherwise.
thanks.
ben >>
Begotten
Leolo
Barjo
Celine and Julie Go Boating
The Cabinet of Dr. Ramirez (Let me know if anyone has ever found this, I lost
my dubbed copy years ago)
Mod F**k Explosion
Typewriter, Rifle, and a Movie Camera (Docu on Samuel Fuller)
Any early Warhol films (I A Man, Bikeboy, Kitchen etc etc)
Act of Seeing With Ones own Eyes
Anything by Joe Christ or Richard Kern
- -
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:14:47 +1000
From: marco <gjergja@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: re BANG ON A CAN
boac url
http://www.bangonacan.org
marco
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:12:18 -0700
From: " A.VanValin" <vanvalin@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Internet Radios
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diego Gruber" <diego.gruber@chello.at>
To: "Zorn list" <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>>
> what are the best radios you've found?
http://kalx.berkeley.edu/
Lots of juvenalia but a few good shows. check out Information Overload.
http://www.kfjc.org/
Several good ambient/ "difficult" shows.
enjoy
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:12:04 -0700
From: " A.VanValin" <vanvalin@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Godard ---no zorn
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <ObviousEye@aol.com>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
> could anyone aid me in my quest for good films?
> obviously ... Godard...where should i start with him?
Hell yes Godard. Check out Alphaville. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058898
Also:
Maborosi
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0113725
Je t'aime, Je t'aime
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0063152
( I wouldn't go for completism with Alan Resnais, but this one rocks.
Cool Penderecki soundtrack as well)
Have fun.
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:30:13 -0400
From: Matt Laferty <bg60009@binghamton.edu>
Subject: Re: Internet Radios
" A.VanValin" wrote:
>
> http://kalx.berkeley.edu/
> Lots of juvenalia but a few good shows. check out Information Overload.
>
> http://www.kfjc.org/
> Several good ambient/ "difficult" shows.
>
I just want to add to this list the station that I dj for and am the folk
director of:
www.whrw.org.
While I'll refrain from editorializing on the content of many of the shows
(free format + suburban college kids = far too many "80s" shows and "radio
theatre" call in shows for my likin').
I broadcast from 8-930 pm eastern time (as "Blind Uncle Gaspard), and I play
"this stuff" mixed with deep hillbilly stuff and british folk and soundtracky
stuff and Yoko Ono and so on... Sorry for the plug and the self-promotion, but
I sure am desperate for listeners...and somebody asked...
matt
- -
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:33:14 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Godard ---no zorn
>obviously a name that comes to mind is Godard, so where should i start with
>him?
Breathless is the obvious place to start since it's not only his first
feature but probably his most accessible film. Of films relatively easy to
find go with Pierrot le Fou (a good one for a Zornlister), Vivre Sa Vie/My
Life to Live, Masculin Feminine and Nouvelle Vague. (Alphaville is also
quite easy to get but I find it even less interesting than some of the
hilariously impenetrable Dziga-Vertov Group films.) Contempt is one of his
best but the currently available video doesn't do it justice; I'd wait for
a release of the "restored" version. A bit harder to find but available
and worth seeing are Numero Deux, Two or Three Things I Know About Her,
Weekend and Helas Pour Moi. My all-time favorite might be Germany Year 90
Nine Zero and don't ever pass up any segments of Histoire(s) du Cinema but
those are almost impossible to find.
Lang
- -------------------------------------------
Adventures In Sound
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm
Outsider Music Mailing List
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm
Documentary Sound
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm
Full Alert Film Review
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:34:28 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: completism/musicians on film/jarmusch/ruiz
>Unfortunately this track is not on the soundtrack which
>apparently for some contractual problems doesn't have RZA's music from the
>film that it should have.
The DVD has a score-only option if you want the untouched RZA music.
Lang
- -------------------------------------------
Adventures In Sound
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm
Outsider Music Mailing List
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm
Documentary Sound
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm
Full Alert Film Review
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:00:44 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <sunny70@sirius.com>
Subject: RE: Godard ---no zorn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Lang Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 8:33 PM
> Breathless is the obvious place to start since it's not only his first
> feature but probably his most accessible film. Of films
> relatively easy to
> find go with Pierrot le Fou (a good one for a Zornlister), Vivre Sa Vie/My
> Life to Live, Masculin Feminine and Nouvelle Vague.
What! No mention of "Band of Outsiders (Bande a Parte)?" That one features
one of the most memorable dance sequences outside of an Astaire and Rogers
(or Kelly) movie.
And since there was a little Hal Hartley thread a while back: it's also a
must-see for Hartley fans, since some scenes from "Simple Men" and "Amateur"
are homages (okay, maybe cribbed liberally) from "Band of Outsiders..."
Later,
Ben
http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:26:36 +1000
From: "Adam Rock" <arock01@postoffice.csu.edu.au>
Subject: Tim Berne
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Thanks,
Adam
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