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Zorn List Digest       Monday, October 23 2000       Volume 03 : Number 136



In this issue:
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       Re: miles soundtracks
       Re: favourite soundtracks
       RE: Internet Radios (wfmu)
       Re: miles soundtracks
       RE: Internet Radio
       Re: favorite soundtracks
       Re:  Re: favourite soundtracks
       GLASS and GREENAWAY (favourite soundtracks)
       internet radio / soundtracks
       Re: favourite soundtracks
       Odp: favourite soundtracks
       Sun Ra article in New York Observer
       RE: favourite soundtracks
       RE: favourite soundtracks
       Re: musicians on film
       Re: favourite soundtracks
       Re: favourite soundtracks
       Re: favourite soundtracks
       Re: completism
       Re: completism

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:45:34 -0500
From: Jim Flannery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: miles soundtracks

Martin Wisckol wrote:
>=20
> "siesta" would be my third favorite miles soundtrack if you count "jack
> johnson" which, of course, was never used for a movie. then there's the
> delicious one from the '50s with the french title. for a godard?

Louis Malle. _Ascenseur pour l'=E9chafaud_/_Elevator to the Gallows_,
1958.

- --=20
Jim Flannery
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:47:55 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favourite soundtracks

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:36:03 -0400  Benjamin Pequet wrote:
>
> Not that any of this is directly relevant to the list or particularly
> illuminating.

But there is a Hal Hartley movie with a soundtrack featuring Zeena's sisters.

    Patrice.

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:49:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Handley <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Internet Radios (wfmu)

I started listening to WFMU last week and haven't had
the time to get around to all the great shows.  One
whose archive I've used several times is Fabio's (?!)
"Freeform Irritainment" show
(http://www.wfmu.org/Playlists/Fabio/), which is
indeed freeform but really swings more in the
direction of avant/'prov/elecoustic stuff, and low on
novelty and low-rent ironic commentary; the DJ is
cool.

- ----s


- --- Diego Gruber <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies. The WFMU archives look
> pretty impressive, any
> hint to what the best programs are?


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:51:20 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: miles soundtracks

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:45:34 -0500  Jim Flannery wrote:
>
> Martin Wisckol wrote:
> >
> > "siesta" would be my third favorite miles soundtrack if you count "jack
> > johnson" which, of course, was never used for a movie. then there's the
> > delicious one from the '50s with the french title. for a godard?
>
> Louis Malle. _Ascenseur pour l'Θchafaud_/_Elevator to the Gallows_,
> 1958.

OK, OK, if we play this game this way:

STANCES POUR SOPHIE: Art Ensemble of Chicago

    Patrice.

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:59:22 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: Internet Radio

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It was with great joy when I discovered that John Peel's BBC1 radio show can
be heard live online.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1

He broadcasts every Tuesday-Thursday from 2:00-4:00pm Pacific Standard Time.


One of a handful of DJs that I know of who truly deserve their legendary
status. He once played American death metal followed by Zimbabwean afro-pop
followed by the alt-country of Neko Case. Amazing.

He also takes requests via e-mail.

Murray

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:10:24 -0400
From: David Keffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favorite soundtracks

>From: Emmanouil Papagiannakis <[e-mail]>
>DEAD MAN

Well, I couldn't resist agreeing.  I never liked Neil
Young until I heard his solo guitar on Jarmusch's
"Dead Man" soundtrack.  That is a fine fine 2xlp release.

>From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
>Star Wars Trilogy (John Williams)

The Star Wars soundtracks have some fine moments, especially
the choir pieces for the Emperor's themes in the third movie.
But when I heard those it made me think invariably of the
soundtrack to 2001, which should be added to my list of
favorite soundtracks.

David K.


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:41:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: favourite soundtracks

My favorites:
I WANT TO LIVE -- Johnny Mandel
THE SOUND & THE FURY -- Alex North
CHINATOWN -- Jerry Goldsmith
THE HUSTLER -- Kenyon Hopkins

skip heller

np: Joe Bataan, SUBWAY JOE

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:59:40 +0000
From: Philippe Dupuis <[e-mail]>
Subject: GLASS and GREENAWAY (favourite soundtracks)

hello,

the music in the ERROL MORRIS documentary THIN BLUE LINE is
really fantastic and all of GLASS' music always reminds me of that,
probably since it's one of the first pieces i had heard of his.

amazing film, i can't wait to see his GATES OF HEAVEN.

i must agree that the MISHIMA music is really good. what is the film
about and how good is SHRADER (sp?) i've only seen AFFLICTION and
thought it was pretty good.

- -I never was too taken with THE DRAUGHTSMAN CONTRACT, but
- -along the same lines (soundtracks by Nyman for Peter
- -Greenaway films) I have repeatedly enjoyed "Prospero's Books"
- -and "Drowning by Numbers" over the years.

i like the mix of different music in his PILLOW BOOK.

btw, am i the only one that finds PROSPERO'S BOOK almost impossible
to grasp? i always pop it in, but get lost. is reading the TEMPEST that
crucial to understanding the whole thing?

what do you guys think of NYMAN'S music in THE PIANO. it's on a cd
here and was wondering if i should get it.

what kind of music is used in HEAVEN & EARTH MAGIC?
does anyone have it out there, i've been looking for it with no luck.


thanks,
martin dupuis

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:01:43 -0400
From: "Bob Kowalski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: internet radio / soundtracks

I'll shamelessly plug http://radioboston.com
All live during the day, all New England based music of all different =
stripes (I do an instrumental / lounge / surf show) with diff. channels =
should folks want to check out live music at Passim, Kendall Cafe, Middle =
East, and else where.

I'd say I think all=20

- - Michael Nyman's Peter Greenaway sndtrks up thru The Cook, The Theif, ... =
are tops. =20
- - Ry Cooder's Paris, Texas
- - Tom Waits contributions to the field are superb
- - Il Mostro (and all Evan Lurie Sndtrks for older Robert Benninni films!)
- - Wim Mertens / Glen Branca: Belly of an Architect
compilations?
- - Pillow Book (another Greenaway flick!)=20
- - Trees Lounge
- - Sweet Hereafter
- - The Imposters
- - Joe Gould's Secret (Evan Lurie score + great compilation!)
- - Dead Presidents
- - Jackie Brown

A Fred Frith related question - Anyone have / like / comment on "Across =
the Border" which is I believe a soundtrack of sorts (Wim Wenders?)=20

bob


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:24:13 +0200
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favourite soundtracks

Miles Davis, L'escalier pour l'echafaud
va - Apocalypse Now (not the music on itself, but what it does to the film)
Goran Bregovic - Underground
Goran Bregovic - Black Cat White Cat
Mamas and Papas ao - Chungking Express
Nino Rota - music for most of Fellini's films (Amarcord, Roma, 8 1/2)
Gustav Mahler - Death in Venice
Ligeti, Strauss ao - 2001: a space odyssey

Theus/Rumor



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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:26:55 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Odp: favourite soundtracks

- ----- Wiadomosc oryginalna -----
Od: <[e-mail]>
Do: "Marius Ergo" <[e-mail]>; <[e-mail]>
Wyslano: 23 pazdziernika 2000 22:24
Temat: Re: favourite soundtracks


| Goran Bregovic - Black Cat White Cat


We've discussed this matter few weeks ago.
OST to BCWC was not composed by Bregovic but made by the band "Zabranjeno
Pusenje" /No Smoking/.
It was after the split between Bregovic and Kusturica /K. accused B. to be a
plagiator/


Jerzy


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:33:19 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sun Ra article in New York Observer

Hi Zornies:

There is a fairly decent article on the new Sun Ra reissues in the New
York Observer this week, with good descriptions of what each of the
discs is like.  For those who've been wondering about these, wonder no
more.  Go to http://www.newyorkobserver.com/pages/story.asp?ID=3341 and
scroll down past the P.J. Harvey article.

Or, on the same subject, there were two separate articles on Ra in last
week's Village Voice:
"Sun Ra's Saturnal Sorcery" by Gary Giddins:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0041/giddins.shtml
"Wooze and Spazz" by Eric Weisbard:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0041/weisbard.shtml

(While you're there, you can check out Howard Hampton's piece "The
Imaginary City," which might seem to reference Ra but is actually about
William Parker's 'Mayor of Punkville' and John Lurie's Marvin Pontiac
album... http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0041/hampton.shtml)

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:49:55 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: favourite soundtracks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Pequet
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 11:36 AM

> At 01:04 PM 10/23/00 -0400, Eric Ong wrote:
> >I've always thought the soundtracks to Hal Hartley's "Flirt" and "Henry
> >Fool" are pretty good. Perhaps not my favorites, but I must say
> they're very
>
> >humming to yourself for weeks on end. I think most of the tracks are
> >composed/performed by Hartley himself.
>
> True for Henry Fool.

I believe the "Ned Rifle" to whom the music for "The Unbelievable Truth" and
"Trust" is credited is none other than Hartley himself, but I'm not entirely
sure.

Since it was asked:

- - Vampyros Lesbos (Hubler and Schwab)
- - Night on Earth (Waits)

plus some runners-up:

- - The Angelic Conversation (Coil)
- - Our Man Flint / In Like Flint (Goldsmith)
- - Once upon a Time in America (Morricone)
- - Cannibal Holocaust (Ortolani)
- - Vertigo (Herrmann)

and some collections:

- - 2001: A Space Odyssey
- - Pulp Fiction
- - The Exorcist
- - Rushmore
- - Apocalypse Now

Later,
Ben

http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:30:40 -0400
From: Maurice Rickard <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: favourite soundtracks

At 1:49 PM -0700 10/23/00, Benito Vergara wrote:
>Since it was asked:
>
>- Vampyros Lesbos (Hubler and Schwab)
>- Night on Earth (Waits)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Absolutely.  This was an interesting one for me, though--I remember
walking out of the theater thinking, "Y'know, I never really 'got'
Tom Waits..."  Three or four months later, I was listening to one of
the local college stations, which was playing "On the Other Side of
the World," and something snapped.  I absolutely _had_ to get the
soundtrack RIGHT AWAY, and it kicked off my Tom Waits period...
Interesting how that stuff happens.

Jarmusch seems to pick really good soundtracks--I really liked _Dead
Man_ and _Stranger than Paradise_, which might function better in the
milieu than on decontextualized disc...but I'm glad I have 'em anyway.

I may have mentioned on the list how strangely haunting I found the
soundtrack to _Aguirre, the Wrath of God_--I was sure it was pedal
steel or something, and someone on the list pointed out that it was
largely if not entirely electronic.


- --
Maurice Rickard
http://mauricerickard.com/

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:34:47 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: musicians on film

Rick Lopez wrote:

> > And I've heard that Anthony Braxton is featured on at least some of the video
> > available from the Woodstock Creative Music Workshop.
>
> Where are these?

Pioneer Entertainment released this DVD not so long ago and I've seen it in stores
pretty regularly, but the company's website says it's already unavailable though
them, so perhaps I might oughta pick it up next time I see it.  The cover pictures
Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Lee Konitz, but here's a full list of who's on it
(from the Collin Walcott website, of all places):

Various Artists: 'Woodstock Jazz Festival' Pioneer Artists PA-98-596-D

Collin Walcott-tabla, Nana Vasconcelos-berimbau, African talking drum, Ed
Blackwell-drums, Aiyb Dieng-African talking drum, Karl Berger-balafon, Pat
Metheny-guitar, guitar synthesizer, Jack DeJohnette-drums, Miroslav Vitous-bass,
Howard Johnson-baritone sax, Julius Hemphill-tenor sax (REALLY?!?), Anthony
Braxton-alto sax, Lee Konitz-alto sax, Chick Corea-piano, Baikida Carroll-trumpet,
Marilyn Crispell-piano, Dewey Redman-tenor sax, Attilio Zanchi-bass

1. Arrival, 2. Left Jab, 3. We Are, 4. Berimbau Solo, 5. Broadway Blues, 6.
Impressions, 7. Stella by Starlight, 8. All Blues

Recorded live on September 19, 1981

I guess you'll be needing this for the Crispell sessionography, Rick?  I'll let you
know if I track it down.  Now that I've seen a complete list of who's on it, this
seems a lot more compelling, even if it omits the famous bit (on the CD 'Woodstock
Jazz Festival 2') where Braxton sings Konitz's 1959 alto solo from "The Song Is
You" to Konitz backstage.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:38:09 +0000
From: Rick Lopez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favourite soundtracks

PATTY HEARST, Scott Johnson


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:48:27 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favourite soundtracks

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:38:09 +0000  Rick Lopez wrote:
>
> PATTY HEARST, Scott Johnson

Was it a movie soundtrack? I doubt it.

    Patrice.

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:51:26 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favourite soundtracks

Patrice L. Roussel wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:38:09 +0000  Rick Lopez wrote:
> >
> > PATTY HEARST, Scott Johnson
>
> Was it a movie soundtrack? I doubt it.
>
>         Patrice.

Yep, used in Paul Schrader's film (a good one, too). Schrader, in
addition to being one of the very best directors around, imho, has shown
some relatively interesting taste in soundtrack composers. I also think
Glass' "Mishima" is among his best post-Einstein work, but the movie
itself is just fantastic, one of the best US movies of the last 20
years, again imho. (odd to refer to it as "US", as it's largely in
Japanese, but....)

Brian Olewnick

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:37:02 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: completism

[e-mail] wrote:

> New question:  We've all heard or read stories where someone would say "I used
> to buy everything on [insert label name here] just because I knew I could
> depend on it being interesting."  Does anyone out there in Zornlistland
> actually do this?  What label(s)?  And why?
>
> Shamefully, I still engage in completist fetishism with certain artists just
> because "if it's them, it's interesting".  You'd think some of those eighties
> Zappa albums would have cured me of that, but, sadly, no.

Well, artist completism is a whole different story than label completism.  To me,
the latter involves considerably more risk when it comes to projects by unknown
artists.  But artist completism is a valid mania, too.  I'm not certain that I'm
an absolute completist when it comes to any artist.  Everyone's made a duff side
project or two (Intergalactic Maiden Ballet, anyone?  Joe Piscopo?).  And when I
look at discographies like those that Patrice maintains, I realize that it's just
impossible to have everything.

But here are the artists from whom I've bought virtually every record (as leader,
at least) and/or would buy them all if money were no object:

Art Ensemble of Chicago
Derek Bailey
Tim Berne
Anthony Braxton
Ornette Coleman
Dave Douglas
Marty Ehrlich
Dennis Gonzalez
Ronald Shannon Jackson
King Crimson / Robert Fripp (including about three feet of boot CDs, Collector's
Club releases, etc.)
Sir Peter Maxwell Davies
Bobby Previte
Roxy Music
Cecil Taylor
John Zorn
:zoviet-france:

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:01:40 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: completism

Steve Smith wrote:

> But here are the artists from whom I've bought virtually every record (as leader,
> at least) and/or would buy them all if money were no object:

> Dennis Gonzalez

Back in the late 80's, when there was a splurge of articles on this guy,
I went and bought "Stefan" on Silkheart and...I didn't see what the fuss
was about. I happened to have recently listened again (traversing my
"G's" these days) and I still don't hear anything particularly striking.
What am I missing? Is it a Texas thing, Steve??? Are there other discs
more to the point?

Brian Olewnick

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