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Zorn List Digest      Monday, September 25 2000      Volume 03 : Number 072



In this issue:
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       RE: spherophon / trautonium (NO ZORN CONTENT!)
       Re: Peter Epstein
       Re: trautonium
       Varese Burroughs & Beyond...
       Burroughs Zorn Content
       Re: Burroughs Zorn Content
       Re: Raleigh
       playin by the rules
       Buckethead Revisited
       Re: Buckethead Revisited
       Odp: Varese Burroughs & Beyond...
       Odp: Burroughs Zorn Content
       =?iso-8859-1?Q?var=E8se?= book
       Zu Feng
       Re: Buckethead Revisited
       Re: big books
       Re: spherophon / trautonium (NO ZORN CONTENT!)
       Re: Varese Burroughs & Beyond...
       NYC show 9/28-Graewe/Hemingway/Howard
       RE: Buckethead Revisited

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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 17:43:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Pequet)
Subject: RE: spherophon / trautonium (NO ZORN CONTENT!)

At 18:50 24/09/00 +0200, patRice wrote:
>hi y'all
>
>reading in a book today, i came across the names of two musical
>instruments unknown to me:
>
>- spherophon

The 'spharaphon' (sometimes referred to as 'sphaeraphon' or 'sph=E4raphon',=
=20
or even ''klaviatursph=E4raphon') appears to be one of the instruments=20
developed around the 30s by J=F6rg Mager.

He proceded from original electronic instruments the 'electrophon' and the=
=20
'kurbelsph=E4raphon'. These are basically tone generators controlled in more=
=20
and more complex ways: by a handle that the player moves over a dial for=20
the electrophon; foot pedals were added to the kurbelsph=E4raphon; the=20
spharaphon was controlled by two monophonic keyboards instead of a handle.=
=20
Later Mager also invented the 'partiturophon' and the 'kaleidophon', based=
=20
on his previous inventions (the partiturophon had five keyboards, etc).
These instruments were obviously motivated by microtonal music, but were=20
mainly used in theatrical productions in Germany at the time. Perhaps with=
=20
friendlier and more exportable names, or if the political situation of=20
Germany had been different at the time, these instruments would have=20
survived the second war.

Pease check out obsolete.com for sources and the full story on these=20
instruments.
http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/





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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:57:54 -0400
From: Craig S Nixon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Peter Epstein

>>He's on two Mike Cain trio records, one old one on MA that I haven't
heard
>>and Circa on ECM, with Mike Cain and Ralph Alessi.  Circa is a
beautiful
>>record.

To throw another one into the ring:  Epstien is also smashingly good on
bassist Todd Sickafoose's recent "Dogs Outside".  Not to slight the rest
of the fine group, either: Alan Ferber on trombone, Justin Morrell on
guitar and Mark Ferber on drums.  Great writing from Sickafoose, great
playing from all; this one went straight to my "best of the year"
list.... http://www.evandermusic.com

See also my review of the earlier mentioned Chris Dahlgren disc at the
link below.....


Craig Nixon
Revolution In Sound
WVKR-FM 91.3
Poughkeepsie, NY
http://www.wvkr.org

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http://aol.members.com/thejazzroom/nix.htm


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:09:57 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Chris Genzel)
Subject: Re: trautonium

 One musician who uses the Trautonium is Pete Namlook, for example
 on his recent release with Move D (David Moufang), THE AUDIOLOUNGE.
 He often credits Oskar Sala in his 'thank you' section. Check his
 homepage at www.hyperreal.com/fax, he often mentions the Trautonium
 in his album descriptions.

 Kind regards,
 - Chris.
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Date: 25 Sep 2000 00:32:47 -0000
From: "Tim Keenliside" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Varese Burroughs & Beyond...

The Chailly Varese set on Decca is worthwhile, mainly
because it collects all the works together, however better
performances of Varese's works exist elsewhere, the Boulez
as previously mentioned, and others which unfortunately
still only exist on vinyl: 'The Varese Album' 2LP set from
Columbia, with Robert Craft conducting the Columbia
Symphony Orchestra, contains Ionisation, Density 21.5,
Integrales, Octandre, Hyperprism, Poeme Electronique,
Deserts, Offrandes, Arcana. My favourite version of
Deserts is on an Angel LP, performed by the Paris
Instrumental Ensemble for Contemporary Music with
Konstantin Simonovitch conducting, and Ameriques performed
by the Utah Symphony with Maurice Abravanel(?) conducting
on the Vanguard Classics imprint (which is available on
CD). Dolphy performed Density 21.5 under the guidance of
the maestro himself; Charlie Parker was friends with
Varese and a collaboration was discussed. As for reading
Burroughs cut-ups, I once found it impossible as well,
until I stopped trying to make any logical sense of it and
started reading it 'out loud' to myself, just following
the flow...a most enjoyable experience, akin to a good
improvised solo. It allows you to 'free associate' all
kinds of imagery and ideas, instead of pondering the
artist's 'meaning'. As for the Trautorium, it is certainly
a fascinating instrument, but the CD by Oskar Salas hardly
does justice to it...

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Date: 25 Sep 2000 01:15:50 -0000
From: "Tim Keenliside" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Burroughs Zorn Content

Forgot to mention in my last post, Burroughs is in a great
'60s movie by Conrad Rooks called 'Chappaqua', that also
features Allen Ginsberg, Ravi Shankar, the Fugs,
and...Ornette Coleman! Ornette did a 'soundtrack', the
Chappaqua Suite, one of his best albums (there is also a
Ravi Shankar soundtrack). The movie is available on DVD
and VHS...

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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:49:07 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Burroughs Zorn Content

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:15:50AM -0000, Tim Keenliside wrote:
> Forgot to mention in my last post, Burroughs is in a great
> '60s movie by Conrad Rooks called 'Chappaqua', that also
> features Allen Ginsberg, Ravi Shankar, the Fugs,
> and...Ornette Coleman! Ornette did a 'soundtrack', the
> Chappaqua Suite, one of his best albums (there is also a
> Ravi Shankar soundtrack). The movie is available on DVD
> and VHS...

Having just watched the DVD twice in the past few weeks thinking that I
might have missed something: this is a great movie? Is there something
I'm not getting? Did you have to have been there at the time? I love
films that many others find obscure and freaky, but this one pegged the
"guess I haven't done the right drugs" meter for me...

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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:38:57 -0400
From: Matt Laferty <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Raleigh

William York wrote:

> I wonder if anyone else on the list has anything to
> say about them, especially NC people.
>
> Also, out of curiosity, who was the "press" on -- just the MEC or other
> bands? And in what publication(s)?

Yeah, well, I've got a friend that is more or less marginally involved with MEC
(which as big as they are, is not that hard to imagine) and I, too was curious
what this quite-perceptive zorn group thinks/thought of the Micro East
Collective.  The press was a generalized "improv" piece...explaining (sortof)
the music and the draw and had a listing for some clubs that included
Chadbourne, Han Bennink, and smaller groups.  I think the newspaper clippings
come from a local arts paper...maybe the Independent Weekly?

matt



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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:26:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sigmund Nonanima <[e-mail]>
Subject: playin by the rules

"s~Z" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>"As you may know, Joyce was a writer who asked his
>reader to give him a lifetime," he said. "I am that.
>reader, and I can tell you it was a wasted life."

>The fact that he did what Joyce asked is indicative
>of the outcome.

seconded...
I mean, come one, doing what the author asks/tells you
to do??




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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:07:46 -0300
From: "Sh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Buckethead Revisited

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Gonna be ordering some more CDs here in a few weeks, and would like to =
get another Buckethead disc, though I need some recommendations.  I've =
got "Monsters and Robots" as well as "Colma."  Both of these discs are =
drastically different, so does he stretch out any more?  I kind of get =
the feeling that "Dreamatorium" and "Dissemboddied" are heavier, though =
not sure.  I've also heard about "The 13th Scroll," which I believe is =
the newest and "Death Cube K," though know nothing of them.  Also heard =
about a live Laswell, Buckethead, Brain disc which I don't think is out =
yet.  Probably most interested in the heaviest thing he's done, though =
any info/recommendations are appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:42:55 +1000
From: "Julian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Buckethead Revisited

<< Gonna be ordering some more CDs here in a few weeks, and would like to
get another Buckethead disc, though I need some recommendations.  I've got
"Monsters and Robots" as well as "Colma."  Both of these discs are
drastically different, so does he stretch out any more? >>

"Day Of The Robot" is very techno-based with one or two heavier guitar
tracks. Not an absolutely essential Buckethead album though. Probably the
best album I've heard with Buckethead is "Transmutation" by Praxis.


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:20:26 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Odp: Varese Burroughs & Beyond...

From: Tim Keenliside <[e-mail]>

>Dolphy performed Density 21.5 under the guidance of
> the maestro himself; Charlie Parker was friends with
> Varese and a collaboration was discussed.

Was that Dolphy performence recorded? Is it available anwhere? Some more
info about Parker plays Varese?
As patRice asked about books on Hindemth, i'd asked the same about Varese...

Marcin Gokieli
[e-mail] [e-mail]
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are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:23:28 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Odp: Burroughs Zorn Content

From: Tim Keenliside <[e-mail]>

> Forgot to mention in my last post, Burroughs is in a great
> '60s movie by Conrad Rooks called 'Chappaqua', that also
> features Allen Ginsberg, Ravi Shankar, the Fugs,
> and...Ornette Coleman! Ornette did a 'soundtrack', the
> Chappaqua Suite, one of his best albums (there is also a
> Ravi Shankar soundtrack). The movie is available on DVD
> and VHS...

In the notes of the album it is written that ornette's  music was finally
not used in the film. I second the recommendation for the album. The sound
of Coleman's band + strings is IMHO quite to reeds + sampler sound on
Douglas's Sanctuary

Marcin Gokieli
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are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:38:47 +0200
From: "gschwend d. atelier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?var=E8se?= book

Marcin Gokieli wrote:

> As patRice asked about books on Hindemth, i'd asked the same about Vare=
se...
>

hi marcin!

i've read one book about var=E8se that i thought was pretty good. the nam=
e of the
author is ouellette; he was a personal friend of var=E8se. the book came =
out
around 1967 in french, but an english translation followed soon after. ho=
wever,
it seems as if it was no longer in print. i've seen copies of it on
www.bookfinder.com.

happy hunting!

patRice

p.s.: i haven't forgotten about the book i promised to send to you! just
haven't had time yet...

np: madonna, music
nr: d.e. hardy, tattootime 4


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:54:29 GMT
From: "Arthur Gadney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zu Feng

Hello,

Any comments on "Xu Feng"? It should be out now, right?

Could anybody give me the exact line-up? Also, I'm curious how well it
sounds. Technically I mean. I didn't like the "live" sound on the Cobra
discs. I suppose this would be recorded in a similar way.

ARTHUR_G

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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:26:48 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Re: Buckethead Revisited

>Buckethead disc

_Day of the Robot_ is terrific. "Heaviest" is a moot point, but it can also
be un-electric, right? So I=B4d recommend _Octave of the Holy Innocents_ a
brilliant album of acoustic jamming between Buckethead and Jonas Hellborg
and Michael Shrieve on Hellborg=B4s Day Eight label.

And an Avant release pairing Buckethead and Brain (going under the
collective name Pieces), _I Need 5 Minutes Alone_, includes some righteous
guitar-shredding for the faithful, along with a lot of other different
kinds of stuff. I just wrote a review of that which should be turning up on
the Motion website <www.state51.co.uk/motion> any time now. All the best,
Stephen

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden

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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:27:13 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Re: big books

>(On the more serious side, I also greatly enjoyed Kurt Andersen's 'Turn of =
the
>Century.')

Me, too. Enjoyed it enormously even though it was, in contrast to works
like the ones by Musil and Broch already mentioned, "more breadth than
depth", as a friend of mine said. Perhaps that is characteristic of our
"broadband" age....Stephen

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:29:17 +0200
From: patRice <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: spherophon / trautonium (NO ZORN CONTENT!)

Benjamin Pequet wrote:

> The 'spharaphon' (sometimes referred to as 'sphaeraphon' or 'sph=E4raph=
on',
> or even ''klaviatursph=E4raphon') appears to be one of the instruments
> developed around the 30s by J=F6rg Mager.
>
> Pease check out obsolete.com for sources and the full story on these
> instruments.
> http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/
>
> -

benjamin,

thanks a lot for pointing me to that webpage!

also for letting me know about the different spellings; cause i couldn't =
find
anything when i tried a "spherophon" search...

again: thanks!

patRice


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:33:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Varese Burroughs & Beyond...

On disc?
live in concert?
at V's home?
at D's practice space?
in NYC?
in Calif.?

elaborate please

Ken Waxman


- --- Tim Keenliside <[e-mail]> wrote:
 Dolphy performed Density 21.5 under the
> guidance of
> the maestro himself;


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:59:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: NYC show 9/28-Graewe/Hemingway/Howard

I wanted to let people know about a free show by the trio of Georg Graewe,
Gerry Hemingway and Earl Howard this Thursday, September 28, 2000 from 7:00
p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at the Goethe-Institut New York, 1014 Fifth Avenue (across
the street from the Met Museum).

more details at:

www.goethe.de/uk/ney/enpmusik.htm

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:03:00 -0400
From: "Jim McLoughlin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Buckethead Revisited

Hi

I like "Day of the Robot", with drum n bass by DJ Ninj, who also did the
programming on Derek Bailey's drum n bass record.

I'm not sure what you mean by "heaviest", but I always thought Praxis'
Metatron was his best stuff - his playing seems more diverse.

Jim


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