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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #43
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Zorn List Digest Friday, September 1 2000 Volume 03 : Number 043
In this issue:
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G. Russell
B-shops
Re: Dead Reckoning
Re: For Alto
Re: George Russell
Vandermark composition
Storage shelves
Re: CD storage shelves/ The Remote Viewer on Leo Records
Re: CD storage shelves/ The Remote Viewer on Leo Records
Re: oxy morons
RE: For Alto
zweitausendeins
Odp: zweitausendeins
Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Russian jazz LP's
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Re: Dead Reckoning
Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:45:16 EDT
From: CuneiWay@aol.com
Subject: G. Russell
><< I was wondering if anyone had anymore recommendations for GR CD's. >>
Vertical Form Six is a wonderful work. It takes all the things that I like
about his stuff & puts it into a nice package, while leaving out the stuff I
don't like about his music.
I actually saw him perform it once as well, & it was splendid.
Steve F.
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:45:23 +0100
From: Peter Marsh <marshp@richmond.ac.uk>
Subject: B-shops
Dmitry wrote:
>My question to the zornithologists is : I read somewhere that members
of the
>Remote Viewer used to be in the band B-Shops for the Poor. Is this entity
>worth investigating? What sort of music did/do they play? etc.
B-Shops for the Poor were a sort of political rock/improv group, maybe
in the same vein as Henry Cow; obvioudly into Brecht. I seem to remember
they did some work with Brotzmann. John Edwards was the bassist (now
playing a lot with Evan Parker and pretty much everyone else on the UK
improv scene. I'm not sure how amny albums they managed...
cheers
Peter
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 11:23:45 -0400
From: Ian Farrell <ifarrell@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Dead Reckoning
I never had a huge dead collection but in high school I did get very
interested in them for awhile. I want to emphasize that I have not listened
to them really for twenty years so these are my recollections of how I felt
about the albums when I was 16 or so. I liked DEAD ALIVE (I think it was
called...a two album set with garcia holding a switchblade as one of the b&w
pics on the inside...from around 1970) for the "space jams" and esoteric
quality; BLUES FOR ALLAH for more indian influences and less of the
bluegrass feel; their first album THE GRATEFUL DEAD I loved for the raw
blues and bluegrass influences mixed with a garage band feel (the only one I
have repurchased actually on CD after I sold all my albums); I wasnt very
into the more poppy folky stuff like WORKING MAN'S DEAD or AMERICAN BEAUTY,
but those have their classic "hit" songs on them like UNCLE JOHN'S BAND I
think.... I'm actually much more into bands like BLACK SABBATH, MAHAVISHNU
ORCHESTRA, Miles and Jimi Hendrix from that late sixties/early seventies
time period... if I hadnt been working so much I would have been really into
responding to that other thread about black metal.... I'm exactly like that
guy's grad advisor who has his CDs in CaseLogic cases organized by
categories like Grindcore, Zorn, Digital Hardcore, Boredoms, Black Flag,
Frith, etc. I love esoteric noise and some quieter jazz, but I gotta have
distorted guitars everyday. It's like an addiction...an addiction to the
physical rush that kind of sound and heavy driving rhythyms crashing over
the body and into the ears... Over the years I've given up drugs, drink,
cigarrettes, caffeine but never distortion blasting on 11!
- --------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:10:25 -0400
> From: "Peter Risser" <risser@cinci.rr.com>
> Subject: Dead Reckoning
>
>> I've got an inexplicable urge to investigate the Grateful Dead, and I'd
>> like to know what recordings you recommend for getting started.
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:52:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <mingusaum@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: For Alto
Don't know how long it was out of print, but yes, it
was originally on Delmark
Ken Waxman
- --- Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca> wrote:
> Perhaps a stupid question--actually two--but was For
> Alto originally
> released on Delmark? And how long has the album
> been out of print?
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:08:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <mingusaum@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: George Russell
Two other good traditional/experimental Rusell (sounds
like an oxymoron, but isn't), Jazz In The Space Age
and New York, New York (originally Decca, but now part
of the Universal empire).
I've see single CDs for about $9.99. Worth it.
Ken Waxman
- --- Dgasque@aol.com wrote:
> Smalltet-Jazz Workshop_ is an incredible CD. Great
> lineup on the disc
>
> -
>
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:01:05 -0400
From: Dan Hewins <dan@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Vandermark composition
Does anyone know of a Ken Vandermark composition that is called "___
Transit"? I don't know the first word of the title.
Thanks,
Dan Hewins
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:04:00 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com
Subject: Storage shelves
Myself, I have quite a variegated approach, mostly 80-100 CD towers
from Ikea.
However, a friend just bought this metal, industrial-looking system
from Ikea. Very functional, sturdy, minimal, space efficient. 6'-7'
high, 4-5' wide. Strictly for CDs. Can secure to the wall if you live
in earthquake territory, as we do here.
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:08:29 -0400
From: Dan Hewins <dan@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: CD storage shelves/ The Remote Viewer on Leo Records
Build shelves. It's cheaper and easy. If you live near a Home Depot
or some place like that they'll cur the wood for you. Use 1x6 boards.
Dan Hewins
>I'm looking for recommendations and retail sources for a relatively
>sizeable (1500-2000) CD storage space, preferrably floor-standing shelves.
>The piles on my floor and around my stereo are getting more and more
>hazardous-looking.
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:19:40 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: CD storage shelves/ The Remote Viewer on Leo Records
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:08:29PM -0400, Dan Hewins wrote:
> Build shelves. It's cheaper and easy. If you live near a Home Depot
> or some place like that they'll cur the wood for you. Use 1x6 boards.
But those of us who live in apartments may run into ...um...
resistance to our drilling and hammering much.
- --
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
| Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
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- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:16:16 GMT
From: "Bill Ashline" <bashline@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: oxy morons
- ----Original Message Follows----
From: "William York" <william_york@hotmail.com>
Trey from Mr. Bungle had a really good line about this when I was
interviewing him last year: "Closed-mindedness works both ways." Maybe not
exactly profound, but it bugs me when people who are supposedly
"enlightened" about music so easily cast off bands or whole genres that they
know nothing about.
- ----------------------
That's right. Zorn certainly isn't snobby when it comes to music, and I'd
say that Naked City and Painkiller are basically heavy metal groups in their
sensibilities. So I've found the whole metal discussion interesting and
informative all the while not possessing much interest in most metal outside
Godflesh, Napalm Death etc. (It's simply too heavy for my palate for a
steady diet). There's a reason why Zorn likes to work with metal drummers
like Harris and Lombardo. Something takes place in the genre in terms of
power that can't be found in the same manner elsewhere.
Now if metal artists would give up the tired and predictable fascist
self-fashioning that so often accompanies the music or the false sense of
extreme urban urgencies that are said to drive it, then people with obvious
aversions might spend more time listening to the musicianship. I don't see
that metal can ever break out the codes and bad ideology it has constructed
for itself to become just a group of people dressing down and playing. If
that were to happen, we'd stop substituting the codes for the "thing," and
the music might just get heard for the first time by many who as of yet
can't muster the attention.
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:36:20 +0200
From: "Franz Fuchs" <f.fuchs@gmx.net>
Subject: RE: For Alto
> [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Given
> 2) Depends on what you mean by out of print. I don't think
> Delmark has been pressing any vinyl for about 10 years at
> least, so probably that long minimum. When the last copies
> were actually made, I don't know.
Don't know how reliable this is, but the All-Music Guide gives as date
for the last LP re-issue of "For Alto" (which is called "For Alto
Saxophone") 1991.
Regards
Franz Fuchs
PS: Again I'm taking the opportunity to call everybody's attention to
the Anthony Braxton mailing list:
http://www.egroups.com/group/Anthony_BRAXTON
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:46:58 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Subject: zweitausendeins
>
> And check www.zweitausendeins.de for on-line shopping at realy
> nice prices.
It's really nice place for shopping at funny prices.
Just today I've received new catalogue.
For the first look I've found mentioned tosay "OHM-The ealry gurus of
electronic music" for 49.95 DM and "Il canto malavita-La music della
Mafia" - historical recordings of mafia ballads, banned in Italy.
Jerzy
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:29:58 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Subject: Odp: zweitausendeins
> >"Il canto malavita-La music della
> > Mafia" - historical recordings of mafia ballads, banned in Italy.
> >
>
> yeah sure LOL
>
From the catalogue "sind in Italien seit den Mordserien der 80er und 90er
Jahre Verboten. Dort wird "La musica della MAfia" nur auf Kassetten unter
dem Ladentish gehandelt /Financial Times/"
Is this really true or only commercial trick ? :)))
greetings
Jerzy
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:44:43 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Here's a chance for everyone to be jealous of Boston for a change.
Tautology has just posted the schedule for Autumn Uprising, the annual
avant-improv event in Boston. This year's version runs October 13-15,
and includes some of the choicest improvisors in town, PLUS Keith Rowe
solo on the first night, AMM on the second, and Eddie Prevost leading a
big group of Bostonians on the third.
Unless I hear that AMM are tucking a New York gig into this trip
overseas, I might well have to catch a bus up that way... still haven't
heard them live and it's a glaring hole for me.
http://members.aol.com/Tautology3/Fest00sched.html
Anyone know if there will be more AMM dates announced? Jon?
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
(P.S. Did anyone at the ICP show at Tonic last night catch the viola
player's name?)
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:53:38 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:44:43 -0500 Steve Smith wrote:
>
> (P.S. Did anyone at the ICP show at Tonic last night catch the viola
> player's name?)
Should be Mary Oliver, I guess (at least she is the one announced for their
show here, in Portland OR).
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:56:37 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Subject: Russian jazz LP's
Glad to see Franco again.
What's going on with Your work on Russian jazz LP's catalogue ?? :))
Work still in progress ??
Jerzy
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:00:21 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
In a message dated 9/1/00 4:48:29 PM, ssmith36@sprynet.com writes:
<< Unless I hear that AMM are tucking a New York gig into this trip
overseas, I might well have to catch a bus up that way... still haven't
heard them live and it's a glaring hole for me.
http://members.aol.com/Tautology3/Fest00sched.html
Anyone know if there will be more AMM dates announced? Jon? >>
nope, that's it for them in the US this time around, but I'm pretty sure
they're coming back in April and doing a more extensive tour. I know I'll be
in Boston in mid-October though...
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:17:21 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Steve Smith wrote:
> Unless I hear that AMM are tucking a New York gig into this trip
> overseas, I might well have to catch a bus up that way... still haven't
> heard them live and it's a glaring hole for me.
Steve,
I'm planning on going up, possibly on the Friday, and staying over with
Walter Horn, probably coming back Sunday thus missing the last day's
shows. While I can't offer a place to stay, if you need a ride, lemme
know. At this point, Jon's unsure whether he's going up with me or with
Tom Pratt, but I can seat three.
Fave moment from last night: after the show, Bennink bounding down
Norfolk street to shake the hands of everyone who had attended. Quite
the character.
best,
Brian
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:26:07 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
I'm hoping to head up from DC. Dunno where I'm staying (anyone know
about hotels near there?) or schedule, but catching AMM is a must.
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:17:21PM -0400, Brian Olewnick wrote:
> Steve Smith wrote:
>
> > Unless I hear that AMM are tucking a New York gig into this trip
> > overseas, I might well have to catch a bus up that way... still haven't
> > heard them live and it's a glaring hole for me.
>
> Steve,
>
> I'm planning on going up, possibly on the Friday, and staying over with
> Walter Horn, probably coming back Sunday thus missing the last day's
> shows. While I can't offer a place to stay, if you need a ride, lemme
> know. At this point, Jon's unsure whether he's going up with me or with
> Tom Pratt, but I can seat three.
- --
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
| Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
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- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:20:56 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Brian Olewnick wrote:
(what was supposed to be a private note to Steve. Whoops)
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:36:58 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
Brian Olewnick wrote:
> Brian Olewnick wrote:
>
> (what was supposed to be a private note to Steve. Whoops)
Yeah, but look at it this way... now we might actually be able to
convene a group gathering with Zornlisters we haven't met (in my case,
so far that's just Joseph). I figure I can find a place to stay as
well, so unless something strange comes up, count me in. Gotta see
AMM...
Any Boston-area Z-lister wanna suggest a meeting/dining place?
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
NP - Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, "Birdhead," 'Petrophonics' (Cuneiform)
- -
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:48:01 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:36:58PM -0500, Steve Smith wrote:
> Any Boston-area Z-lister wanna suggest a meeting/dining place?
I'd also like to see if some of us can get together and free-improv
somewhere, maybe during the day, before evening events.
- --
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
| Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
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- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:50:08 -0400
From: Matt Laferty <bg60009@binghamton.edu>
Subject: Re: Dead Reckoning
Zornites
I've got a question. Has anybody heard of Goran Bregovech (the spelling may be
off)? He plays gypsy "speed brass" as one intellectual has described it.
Anyone know where any of his records can be had?
thanks,
Matt
> -
- -
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:51:43 -0400
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Autumn Uprising 2000 - AMM-mmm-good...
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Hi Y'all
I am going to try to get in on this one, and I might have a place to
stay.
- ---Mike
Steve Smith wrote:
> Brian Olewnick wrote:
>
> > Brian Olewnick wrote:
> >
> > (what was supposed to be a private note to Steve. Whoops)
>
> Yeah, but look at it this way... now we might actually be able to
> convene a group gathering with Zornlisters we haven't met (in my case,
> so far that's just Joseph). I figure I can find a place to stay as
> well, so unless something strange comes up, count me in. Gotta see
> AMM...
>
> Any Boston-area Z-lister wanna suggest a meeting/dining place?
>
> Steve Smith
> ssmith36@sprynet.com
> NP - Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, "Birdhead," 'Petrophonics' (Cuneiform)
>
> -
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Hi Y'all
<p>I am going to try to get in on this one, and I <i>might </i>have a place
to stay.
<p><i>-</i>--Mike
<br><i></i>
<p>Steve Smith wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Brian Olewnick wrote:
<p>> Brian Olewnick wrote:
<br>>
<br>> (what was supposed to be a private note to Steve. Whoops)
<p>Yeah, but look at it this way... now we might actually be able to
<br>convene a group gathering with Zornlisters we haven't met (in my case,
<br>so far that's just Joseph). I figure I can find a place to stay
as
<br>well, so unless something strange comes up, count me in. Gotta
see
<br>AMM...
<p>Any Boston-area Z-lister wanna suggest a meeting/dining place?
<p>Steve Smith
<br>ssmith36@sprynet.com
<br>NP - Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, "Birdhead," 'Petrophonics' (Cuneiform)
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