In a message dated 5/17/00 6:16:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
marcing@mospan.pl writes:
<< The old sony recordings? Anybody knows anything about the new 'complete
webern - boulez 2000' box?
>>
The set will be 6 CD's. Of course, he did the old Sony box set as well. I
guess there are a bunch of recently unearthed things on the new set, not to
mention brand new digitally recorded performances.
Boulez also will have a new piece released soon, supposedly in September or
something like that. Its for some combination of pianos and harps, possibly
with some sort of electronic modification.
matt mitchell
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:17:41 -0400
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Coitus Interruptus
> > What past releases are interrupting your new releases this week?
L'enemble Raye -Quelques Pieces Detaches (Charming 80's french chamber rock)
Ornette - Beauty is A Rare thing (This never leaves my CD changer it seems)
and I dont know if this qualifies since its new on CD,but.....
Mike Mantlers Movies and More Movies (Listening to these for the
first time in many years, I'm struck by how well it holds up, This
stuff could give fusion a good name again)
RW
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:47:54 -0700
From: Reuben Radding <rrad@drizzle.com>
Subject: Re: Coitus Interruptus
>> > What past releases are interrupting your new releases this week?
>
For me, it's the three J's:
Jimmy Giuffre 3 - Thesis
Jack DeJohnette Special Edition (w/ Blythe and Rivers)
Jimmy Martin box set (on Bear Family)
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Reuben Radding
rrad@drizzle.com
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:19:38 EDT
From: CuneiWay@aol.com
Subject: one nite
Hello
I will find myself with ONE night free in NYC on Sat. 5/20.
I've already checked out the Knitting Factory's page.
Does Tonic have a site? Couldn't find it.
I *do* know about Elliott Sharp's gig.
Any other shows on THIS Saturday that might be recommended?
Thanks!
Steve F.
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:24:08 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: one nite
In a message dated 5/17/00 9:21:49 PM, CuneiWay@aol.com writes:
<< Does Tonic have a site? >>
www.tonic107.com
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:12:00 -0400
From: thehodgsons <thehodgsons@home.com>
Subject: Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers
>> Does anyone else wish they'd skip the studio box and put out a massive live box, maybe with some other configurations (a la Bar Kokhba, Circle Maker, etc etc.) along with the quartet? <<
I'd like to see them release some of the Electric Masada stuff. That is
without a doubt my favorite lineup of Masada. No matter how much I
enjoy the quartet with Dave Douglas, Joey Baron & Greg Cohen I cannot
get enough of the group with Marc Ribot, Kato Hideki, Ben Perowsky. I
think they were one of the very first Masada lineups and one of the
best.
Anybody else with me on this one?
Dwayne
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:11:55 -0400
From: thehodgsons <thehodgsons@home.com>
Subject: Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers
>> Does anyone else wish they'd skip the studio box and put out a massive live box, maybe with some other configurations (a la Bar Kokhba, Circle Maker, etc etc.) along with the quartet? <<
I'd like to see them release some of the Electric Masada stuff. That is
without a doubt my favorite lineup of Masada. No matter how much I
enjoy the quartet with Dave Douglas, Joey Baron & Greg Cohen I cannot
get enough of the group with Marc Ribot, Kato Hideki, Ben Perowsky. I
think they were one of the very first Masada lineups and one of the
best.
Anybody else with me on this one?
Dwayne
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:31:26 -0700
From: Reuben Radding <rrad@drizzle.com>
Subject: Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers
At 10:11 PM 5/17/00 -0400, thehodgsons wrote:
>I'd like to see them release some of the Electric Masada stuff. That is
>without a doubt my favorite lineup of Masada. No matter how much I
>enjoy the quartet with Dave Douglas, Joey Baron & Greg Cohen I cannot
>get enough of the group with Marc Ribot, Kato Hideki, Ben Perowsky. I
>think they were one of the very first Masada lineups and one of the
>best.
Frankly, my favorite electric Masada lineup was the one with Medeski,
Wollesen, Ribot and Zorn. Similar but different was one with Medeski,
Martin, Wood, Ribot and Zorn. Killer stuff.
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:44:47 -0500
From: howcome@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Klezmer recommendations needed
<html>
At 11:38 AM 05/16/2000 +0200, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>Neil H. Enet wrote:<br>
<br>
I'm in need of some good<br>
recommendations for Klezmer music. <br>
<br>
<br>
- Wild Crazy Dissonant Klezmer<br>
</blockquote>I'm not big on Klezmer really but the CDs on Tzadik by the
New Klezmer<br>
Trio (<i>Melt Zonk Rewire</i> and <i>Masks and Faces</i>) are great.
period. Some of<br>
my favorite music of all time and the best place, imo, to hear Ben
Goldberg.<br>
If Masada is Klezmer/Ornette Coleman than NK3 is Klezmer/Jimmy Giuffre
<br>
Trio. It is music that can be very intense and edgy which has kind
of been <br>
lost, I think, in Goldberg's recent releases. I was recently
surprised to find <br>
out that they had got back together and have a new CD coming out on
Tzadik <br>
called <i>Short for Something</i>. James</html>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:05:41 +0200
From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
Subject: re: webern box set
Nudeants@aol.com wrote:
>
> << The old sony recordings? Anybody knows anything about the new 'complete
> webern - boulez 2000' box?
> >>
> The set will be 6 CD's. Of course, he did the old Sony box set as well. I
> guess there are a bunch of recently unearthed things on the new set, not to
> mention brand new digitally recorded performances.
hi matt!
did you hear any rumours or anything concerning recently unearthed
pieces?
the existence of such would very much surprise me.
maybe they included a few more re-arrangements / orchestrations of other
compositions webern did?
patRice
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:05:30 +0200
From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
Subject: re: masada box set (our hopes...)
Reuben Radding wrote:
>
>
> Frankly, my favorite electric Masada lineup was the one with Medeski,
> Wollesen, Ribot and Zorn. Similar but different was one with Medeski,
> Martin, Wood, Ribot and Zorn. Killer stuff.
>
i would also much rather have a live box set than "the complete studio
recordings". (since i already have all the other releases...)
and yes, yes, yes: it would absolutely have to have stuff of the above
mentioned line-ups on it! (especially the one feat. ribot. can't
remember which combination i witnessed in concert - it was one feat.
ribot -, but i did have multiple eargasms.)
would it maybe help if each and everyone of us wrote to tzadik and beg
them for a live box set??? what do you think?
patRice
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:05:54 +0200
From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
Subject: Re: Odp: varΦse
Marcin Gokieli wrote:
>=20
> patRice wrote:
> > edgar var=E8se: the complete works (riccardo chailly)
>=20
> enough: i'll buy it ;-)
>=20
good boy... ;-)=20
you wont regret it, i'm sure!
> > po=E8me =E9lectronique is featured, too; transferred from the origina=
l
> > master.
>=20
> what is that piece, btw?
from the booklet:
using tape alone, this was played through more than 400 loudspeakers
inside the philips pavilion designed by le corbusier (as far as i,
patRice, remember, iannis xenakis was also heavily involved with this
pavilion) for the 1958 brussels world fair. var=E8se worked ...
laboratoris ... to produce the montage of unmodified sounds: machine
noises, bells, piano, percussion and pure electronic sounds. ...
let me say this: it sounds sort of weird, but is very enjoyable!
i'm still trying to set-up my 400 loudspeakers-stereo, but well... ;-)
patRice
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:53:20 -0400
From: stephen drury <stevedrury@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: scores
At 11:39 AM 5/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:15:15 +0200
>From: "Ari" <ari.h@wol.be>
>Subject: scores
>
>Does anybody knows if some of Zorn's scores (f.i. pieces like Carny or the
>Masada stuff) are published for sale and where I can find them?
>
Carl Fischer in New York is publishing Zorn's music. Dont know about
Masada, but written-out music for so-called classical players is all there.
- --steve
http://www.stephendrury.com
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 07:43:32 -0400
From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com
Subject: Masada box -- no thanks
Kristopher S. Handley
I, too, await
the Masada box with great longing. Though I do find it cheesy that they'd
reissue all the discs again so soon after their first pressings, especially
since DIW is going strong and all the originals are in print. But there's
much to be said for commodity fetishism.
So what would be the point here? But would I rebuy the whole set just to have
The Commodity? I'd much rather buy $150 worth of something new. Now, if
Tzadik or DIW wants to sell me a nice Official Box with to hold my set of
Masadas and tosses in a booklet or CD of outtakes, that would be cool. I'd buy
that. But rebuy the whole set at a domestic price when I've already spent about
$20 bucks each already? No way.
BTW, I'm into Commodities and Boxes as much as the next guy (I got Cecil in
Berlin, after all) This one just doesn't seem worth it, for just the reasons
you give.
Glenn
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:49 -0400
From: thehodgsons <thehodgsons@home.com>
Subject: Re: masada box set (our hopes...)
> would it maybe help if each and everyone of us wrote to tzadik and beg
> them for a live box set??? what do you think?
It may be worth a try. I know several people who would be very
interested in a boxed set of live Masada. Almost every Masada fan, it
seems, already has all of the studio recordings and I think it would be
very silly to have them re-issued domestically.
Would they really listen to us though??? How would they respond the
bombardment of emails requesting a set like this.
Dwayne
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:52:46 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: masada box set (our hopes...)
The Masada live boxed set idea seems to be becoming redundant now anyway,
with the series of Tzadik live albums coming out. Does anyone know how many
of these are planned?
I'd definitely be into the collection of alternate line-ups though...
> It may be worth a try. I know several people who would be very
> interested in a boxed set of live Masada. Almost every Masada fan, it
> seems, already has all of the studio recordings and I think it would be
> very silly to have them re-issued domestically.
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:04:35 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
Subject: RE: masada box set (our hopes...)
pat Rice wrote:
would it maybe help if each and everyone of us wrote to tzadik and beg
them for a live box set??? what do you think?
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Count me in, being a new Masada fan and owning only the three live albums on
TZADIK, I'd be glad to see a Masada Boxset, including the studio albums (i
don't own them, so), the other lineups or just other live albums.
I do think that it'll be difficult for TZADIK to release them since I
understand DIW are having no real problems with people buying them, but
maybe we'll see a 10 year anniversary boxset in 2004 (the first Masada album
was released on 1994, I think) released through TZADIK, who know?
But like I said, coutn me in, I'll write to TZADIK, let's hope everyone else
joins in.
Neil H. Enet
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:31:22 -0500
From: "John Thomas" <jgthomas@nortelnetworks.com>
Subject: RE: Konitz recommendations
Gabriel writes:
>Just one question: Lee Konitz is playing in Argentina next month and I =
>want to know your insight on his music, I've loved the few things I've =
>heard, but I would like some advice before I ruin my economy a little =
>bit more.
Some of my favorite Konitz discs are as follows, maybe not all for the new
listener mind you (the solo discs), but great albums imo that I return to
again
and again:
_Lee Konitz with Warne Marsh_ (Atlantic)
Great group outing, sounding quite sublime with Marsh on this
_Motion_ (Verve)
Intense trio set with Elvin Jones
_Live In Toronto 1952_ (Jazz Records)
Tristano group with Marsh as well
_Lone-Lee_ (Steeplechase)
_Unaccompanied Live in Yokohama_ (PSF)
2 great, great solo sets, very searching and lovely to hear, if just
for the
sheer *sound* of Konitz's alto saxophone playing
Check out the great Konitz discography at:
www2.pcom.net/sminer/Sessions.html
John
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:20:58 CDT
From: "Kristopher S. Handley" <thesubtlebody@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Konitz recommendations
Thanks, John, for the link to the Konitz sessionography---it's really
outstanding. However, I didn't feel like wading through it to find one
session I've only heard rumors about, which is (I think) a trio or quartet,
with Lee playing a 45+ minute version of _one standard_ (can't remember
which one. Does anyone here have any idea what this is? Is it worth
