Today I received 39 messages from the zorn-list, an just a few of them
where concerning jazz.
In the rest of them they wrote some useless bull-shit, instead of some
interesting concert or CD reviews.
Is it that hard to understand that this is a mailing list and not a
chat-channel?
By the way, who gives a fuck about John Zorn beeing against MP3.
Yours sincerely,
Evil Dick
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 14:40:23 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: too many bull-shit on this list
On Tue, 09 May 2000 23:27:47 +0200 Filip Wilms wrote:
>
> Today I received 39 messages from the zorn-list, an just a few of them
> where concerning jazz.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
You might be confused because this list does not really cover jazz.
> In the rest of them they wrote some useless bull-shit, instead of some
> interesting concert or CD reviews.
I am always amazed by people who lurk on the list and never open their
mouth to share their great knowledge except for complaining...
What is the equivalent of "voyeur" for people lurking in a list without
contributing at all.
If you were a significant contributor to this list, I would at least
understand where you are coming from. Since I don't remember anything
of value posted by you, I have less reasons to be indulgent.
> Is it that hard to understand that this is a mailing list and not a
> chat-channel?
And so what? A discussion getting off hand once in a while does not
hurt. If your time is so precious, you might better unsubscribe since
the list does not appear to be up your standard.
> By the way, who gives a fuck about John Zorn beeing against MP3.
>
> Yours sincerely,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
At least you are polite.
Patrice.
> Evil Dick
>
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:40:46 EDT
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: too many bull-shit on this list
Concert and CD reviews? Sounds like you're confusing this with an "announce" list. These show up on occasion, but not on a predesigned basis. From what I've gathered, this is a "discussion" list and that's precisely what we're doing...
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In a message dated Tue, 9 May 2000 5:34:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Filip Wilms <filipwilms@freegates.be> writes:
<< Today I received 39 messages from the zorn-list, an just a few of them
where concerning jazz.
In the rest of them they wrote some useless bull-shit, instead of some
interesting concert or CD reviews.
Is it that hard to understand that this is a mailing list and not a
chat-channel?
By the way, who gives a fuck about John Zorn beeing against MP3.
Yours sincerely,
Evil Dick
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Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:07:32 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: lsdc+w (long)
oops -- thought i sent this last week. turns out i sent it to eugene himself
rather than zornlist. kinda embarassing. anyway, here's the big part of what i
meant to post about eugene's cdrs
>>>
i received some questions about the chadbourne cd-r releases from listmembers
which i can't altogether answer. (while i may be a chadzealot, i'm not
officially a promoter). but here's some info, including a little bitta zorn
content, that i'll pass to the masses.
bruce at downtown music gallery (nyc) stocks the 5 new cd-r's, plus the new 'i
talked to death in stereo' on leo. the cd-r's are all previously released stuff
(if only on his homemade cassettes). one disc of duets with kaiser and loren
mazzance connors, one of hendrix covers, i believe 2 solo discs and the fabled
lsdc&w double cd.
bruce can be reached at dmg@panix.com. here's his review of 'i talked to death,'
since we're on the subject.
DR. EUGENE CHADBOURNE-I Talked to Death in Stereo (Leo 276) With
Brian Richie, Carrie Shull, Jonathon Segal, Victor Krummenacher &
more wackos. This is a collection of four original tunes & five
covers for both solo & group performances, recorded between '97
&'99. The title track has to be one of Eugene's best titles ever and
deals with concentration and listening for a quintet of el. guitar,
el. viola, violin/cello, clarinet/alto sax & theremin/drums. As out
there or free as it gets, there is an underlying focus to the
proceedings. On "Ochre Ringlet & "Don't Happy, Be Worry" Dr. Chad
plays all the instruments (piano, alto sax harmonica and organ), a
first for him. He does a fine job of layering these instruments on
top of one another in a harmelodic mass that has a twisted charm.
"Don't Happy" has hilarious lyrics about custom official snafus and
is a quaint yet weird rendition. "I'll Never Smile Again" is one of
the three standards that Eugene tackles for solo guitar & voice and
it receives a sad, soft, eloquent reading. Rogers & Hart's "Glad to
be Unhappy" is done by a trio of dobro, acoustic bass guitar & oboe
with Eugene doing his hilarious Satchmo vocal. The two Albert Ayler
covers are done by both the twisted quintet and the odd acoustic
trio, with "Prophecy" getting the amazing cosmo-spastic out-jazz
treatment and "Change Has Come" also receiving a hyper-out-to-lunch
free/jazz acoustic version. Dr. Chad is backed by his two partners
from Camper Van Chadbourne on "The Walking Dead" for a spooky, nimble
fingered acoustic journey through horror movie soundtrack inspired
hell. The closing benediction is a solo cover of "I've Got a Crush
on You" by the Gershwins, another quaint way to end this groovy
collection. $14.
ok now. lister stephane sent me the track lists for previous versions of lsdc&w
(which includes -- hold on for relevance -- folks like zorn, cora and kramer).
the new double cd, fully title "LSDC&W THE AMAZING STORY OF THE CHADBOURNES A
New Chadbourne Genealogy" is nearly identical to the homemade casette "history
of the chadbournes" i got from eugene last year. The cassette ends with the
george jones song 'tall trees'; the cd instead has the stones' wild horses and
loretta lynn's 'nobody loves me but my mother.'
here, then, is the track listing, followed by what stephane sent me for past
releases:
LSDC&W THE AMAZING STORY OF THE CHADBOURNES A New Chadbourne Genealogy"
1. Take This Job and Shove It (David Allen Coe)
2. Somethin' Else (Eddie Cochran)
3. Down at the Corner at a Bar Named Kelly's (Johnny Paycheck)
4. Hurry Home Darlin' (McGee)
5. Nobody's Lonesome for Me (Hank Williams)
6. Tom Cat's Kitten (McGee)
7. Eating Out of Your Hand (McGee)
8. Move It On OVer (Hank Williams)
9. Moanin' the Blues (Merle Haggard)
10. Pitter Patter Panther (Duke Ellington)
11. In the Night (Professor Longhair)
12. I've Just Seen a Face (Lennon/McCartney)
13. Birthday (Lennon/McCartney)
14. Octopus' Garden (Ringo Starr)
15. I'm the Only Hell My Mama Ever Raised (Bobby Braddock)
16. W Va Spec (Chadbourne)
17. Reincarnation (Lord Kitchener)
18. (If I'm Gonna Sink (Johnny Paycheck)
19. Hurry Home Darlin' (McGee)
20. Day Tripper (Lennon/McCartney)
21. Tennessee Flattop Box (Johnny Cash)
22. Burma Shave (Roger Miller)
23. Wine Me Up (Faron Young)
24. Kansas City Star (Roger Miller)
25. This Town (Roger Miller)
26. Bluegrass Breakdown (BIll Monroe)
27. Bound to Ride (trad.)
28. Glad All Over (Carl Perkins)
29. Live Fast, Love Hard, Die Young (Faron Young)
1-7 kramer/david licht/cora/ec
8-14 add zorn
15-29 kramer/licht/chadbourne (which would soon become shockabilly)
i haven't listened closely enough yet (sorry) to determine whether these line-
ups, as suggested by the liner notes (if you have any of eugene's homemade
releases, you know what i mean), are complete. from the looks of the info from
other discs, it may not be. that's yet to be determined, but there have at least
been cassette releases of the chadbournes nee shockabilly trio that are not
included in the new release.
here's the other release info, then i promise i'll let you go.
030 - LSDC&W - THE HISTORY OF THE CHADBOURNES IN AMERICA: Eugene Chadbourne
are there any chadbourne completists/archivists in the world? just wondering...
rock on.
np: joel futterman/william parker/jimmy williams authenticity
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Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 10:46:25 +0200
From: "Rob Allaert" <rob.allaert@charity.nu>
Subject: Suggestions
Guys,
It's been a while since I read something on this list about the wonderful
group Pachora. I've seen 'em live some weeks ago. Awesome concert. They are
absolute virtuosos. Especially "AST", the new album, is utterly perfect and
a must have. I believe that people without a copy should unsubscribe from
this list ;-)
Also, "Romance with the Unseen" (Byron, Frisell, Gress, DeJohnette) is so
good. Because of the lousy Beatles tune and two interludes on the album your
first impression tends to be "I don't know". But further listenings reveal a
great collection of songs.
About DD: Listen to 'Soul on Soul' via the song 'Mary's Idea' and play it
loud. You will enter into the rest of the album. As for "Leap of Faith":
travel through the songs via "Another Country" and "Mistaken Identity". They
reveal absolute soloing. Simply amazing.
Go get these albums NOW and quickly add "Skin" by Topaz! Any other reviews
on the above mentioned albums?
Rob, Belgium
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:39:12 EDT
From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com
Subject: good and evil
ah this is madness i love it.
now that this issue has been beaten to a pulp (quite an eloquent conclusion with the "Go John -- Go Trey" number) consider the truth in the good and evil comment.
does it not seem to be the case that mr. zorn indeed can no longer tell the difference between good and evil?? what started out as a healthy robust cynicism toward corporate america seems to have manifested into an all-out paranoia toward virtually anything that does not exist within the comfy walled confines of his posse which was established about 15 years ago now. yes there are exceptions. but very very few.
in the back of my mind hoping i'm wrong about this,
joseph b
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:12:49 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: good and evil
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 08:39:12PM -0400, XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote:
> does it not seem to be the case that mr. zorn indeed can no longer tell the difference between good and evil?? what started out as a healthy robust cynicism toward corporate america seems to have manifested into an all-out paranoia toward virtually anything that does not exist within the comfy walled confines of his posse which was established about 15 years ago now. yes there are exceptions. but very very few.
I'd be interested in seeing a demonstration of any correlation
whatsoever between this goofy theory and anything in the real world.
Is this the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" school of psychomusicology?
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