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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #913
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Zorn List Digest Saturday, April 22 2000 Volume 02 : Number 913
In this issue:
-
morton feldman
prelapse/zorn/patton
Odp: Metallurgic Question
Butch Morris Conduction Workshop
nyc laswell sundays
Re: prelapse/zorn/patton
upcoming NYC gigs
angelica festival in italy
derek & the ruins
[Non-Zorn] Voquette
RE: upcoming NYC gigs [& Carny]
Re: derek & the ruins
more cobra/game pieces
boston punk question
Re: angelica festival in italy
Re: angelica festival in italy
KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert
Re: KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert
Odp: angelica festival in italy
recommandation
more cobra/game pieces
Zorn and Snagglepuss
Re: more cobra/game pieces
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: aaron chua <aaronchua22@yahoo.com>
Subject: morton feldman
if anyone has saved prior discussions on his works on
this list sometime ago could they please send them to
me offlist ( or otherwise give me a hint as to which
digest(s) they were on.)
and while on the subject, i was about to purchase For
John Cage( on a japanese label I think) when i noticed
that hat art has(?) released a recording of this as
well. anyone care to cast their vote on which
recording floats their boat?
thanks.
regards
aaron
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Gatzen <aargh881@yahoo.com>
Subject: prelapse/zorn/patton
Hi folks...if anyone is interested in a trade, I have
a
Prelapse show and a Zorn/Mike Patton show from Amherst
Mass..either 1995 or 1996 I dont remeber the year..I
can make cd's of it.The sound quality is amazing. Let
me know..
Thanks
Tom
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:31:40 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcing@mospan.pl>
Subject: Odp: Metallurgic Question
I do think that both original fripp and eno are available in shops. I have
both on vinyl, and as i have the 'essential', i do not need those cds that
much.
Speaking of those remasters, i'd love to have the remastered versions of
early Eno albums (that featured fripp, fritth, wyatt, etc): 'here come the
warm jets', 'taking tiger mountain', 'Another Green World', 'before and
after science'. They all have an incredible sound - eno's creativity as
producer and 'sound organizer' - and suffer horribly from not being
remastered.
Oh! And also 'my life in the bush of ghost'...
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
To: <olewnik@idt.net>
Cc: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: Metallurgic Question
> Brian Olewnick wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if the Fripp/Eno composition, 'An Index of Metals'
> > (surely one of the great song titles) is available on disc?
>
> Both 'Evening Star' and 'No Pussyfooting' have been available on disc for
> quite a long time (a glance at Amazon.com a moment ago confirms that they
> are both listed there, and thus presumably still in print), although I
> don't think they've ever enjoyed a remastering that would make them
> sonically as up to date as 'Essential Fripp & Eno' was. Agreed that the
> 'Healthy Colors' tracks were of dubious value - to be honest, the true
> 'Essential Fripp & Eno' would have included all tracks from both original
> albums and nothing else, unless it were expanded to include Fripp's
> playing on Eno's albums and would thus have to include "Baby's on Fire,"
> "St. Elmo's Fire," "I'll Come Running" and a few others.
>
> The King Crimson albums are all currently being remastered and the
> results have been outstanding so far. Perhaps we can hope the same for
> the Fripp & Eno albums at last.
>
> Steve Smith
> ssmith36@sprynet.com
>
>
> -
>
- -
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:15:27 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Butch Morris Conduction Workshop
Jump Arts and Neues Kabarett are proud to present the
Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris CONDUCTIONsm Workshop
Saturday April 22nd - 4pm
*Bring your instruments and prepare to be conducted!
All are welcome - Musicians and spectators alike!
The conduction workshop is an excellent opportunity for both student and
professional alike to get a glimpse into a music that has been described as
"....... one of the most challenging and exciting contributions to 20th
century music".
@ The Brecht Forum
122 West 27th Street 10th Floor
$10
Also... don't miss the second weekend of
J U M P F E S T I V A L T E N
Friday 4/21
8 p.m. - Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris Conduction #110
9 p.m. - Music for Percussion & Strings (Ryan Sawyer, Matt Heyner, Mat
Maneri,
John Blum)
10 p.m. - The Oscar Noriega Group
11 p.m. - Andrew Bemkey Trio (w/ Tom Abbs & Chad Taylor)
Saturday 4/22
7 p.m. - Gold Sparkle Band CD release party (free)
8 p.m. - Gold Sparkle Band performance
9 p.m. - The David Boykins Outet
10 p.m. - Mark Whitecage solo
11 p.m. - Steve Swell's Unified Theory of Sound
(Jemeel Moondoc, Jackson Krall, Wilber Morris)
@ The Brecht Forum
122 West 27th Street 10th Floor
$6 per night
+plus+
The Creative Sound Workshop
A free music workshop for kids of all ages
Saturday, April 22 - 1 p.m. at the Brecht Forum
Log on to http://JumpArts.org
CD's, mp3's, books and more!
Check out the Artists!
Get a Free Jump Mail Account!
Search the Web with Jump Search!
- -
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:34:28 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: nyc laswell sundays
anyone know anything about bill laswell w/dj's sunday nights at walker's (near
the knit)? it's been advertised in the voice the last few weeks, in teeny print
at the bottom of the knit's ad.
np: Lyle Lovett: Step Inside This House
- -
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:10:35 EDT
From: Alejo88@aol.com
Subject: Re: prelapse/zorn/patton
Wow! Someone has that?! That was a good gig - it was actually 4 years ago
tonight: 4/18/96. It was at Northampton, MA, part of the Loud Music Fest,
and it was with our old drummer, RJ Rabin. There's some Zorn tunes premiered
that night that will never see the light of day, as per Zorn's request. . . .
Give me your address, Tom, and I'll send you the song titles.
Later,
Alex
Prelapse
P.S. Prelapse at Ottobar in Baltimore, MD; Thurs Apr 20!
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
>
>[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Gatzen
>
>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:44 AM
>
>To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
>
>Subject: prelapse/zorn/patton
>
>
>
>Hi folks...if anyone is interested in a trade, I have
>
>a
>
>Prelapse show and a Zorn/Mike Patton show from Amherst
>
>Mass..either 1995 or 1996 I dont remeber the year..I
>
>can make cd's of it.The sound quality is amazing. Let
>
>me know..
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>Tom
- -
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:35:45 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: upcoming NYC gigs
sorry for the NYC-centric nature of this message, but there are a lot of
potentially great shows coming up this week that I thought I'd make sure
people knew about:
tomorrow through Sunday is 4 nights of Evan Parker, with different
collaborators each night, at the Knitting Factory.
Monday night at the Cooler is the duo of Dean Roberts and Christof Kurzmann,
fresh from last week's Taktlos appearance (in the larger group Shabotinski).
both of these musicians have upcoming Erstwhile releases, Roberts with Werner
Dafeldecker and Kurzmann with Burkhard Stangl. if you can't make it to this
show, all four musicians will be at Tonic on 5/24. the Cooler show is free.
Wednesday at Tonic at 10, after Georg Grawe/Mark Dresser, is another set from
Roberts, this one probably with some of the musicians on his recent Ritornell
record and more rock-oriented.
and Thursday and Friday at Tonic are four sets of Kevin Drumm, three with
Ikue Mori, Lee Ranaldo, and White Out respectively, and one set solo.
helluva week, huh?
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:28:06 +0200
From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
Subject: angelica festival in italy
hi there
a friend of mine handed me the programme of the angelica festival in
bologna/italy. taking place, as far as i can make out with my bad
italian, from may 5 to may 14 and july 5 o july 6.
their webpage is at www.aaa-angelica.com
appearances by:
bar kokhba (special edition for angelica; it says!!!)
terry riley
la monte young
eyvind kang
mike patton vs. the x-ecutioners (!)
guus janssen
ensemble modern playing frank zappa stuff
and many more...
there are also pre-concert talks with some of the composers; yes, with
jz too!
are any of the european members of this list attending any of the shows?
yours,
patRice
- -
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:57:13 +0200
From: "in.out" <in.out@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: derek & the ruins
Viergehello zorner
just a word to ask you which label released the Derek & the ruins album ?
thanks
mikl
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- -
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:58:04 -0400
From: "Ljova" <L@Ljova.com>
Subject: [Non-Zorn] Voquette
Hi, everyone!
Just wanted to let you know of a product called "voquette", which lets you
save files from the internet -- files you're not really supposed to save,
such as Herb Levy's "Mappings" Broadcasts and such.
I'm not sure if such a system is legal, but that it exists... all you
law-oriented people can append to this message if you like. Sorry if this
system has already been discussed...
http://www.voquette.com
- -Ljova
Disclaimer: I have no connections, no investements, and receive no profit of
any kind from Voquette.com
- --------
Lev "Ljova" Zhurbin
L@Ljova.com
http://Ljova.com/
Listen to my music:
http://www.mp3.com/LevZhurbin/ (compositions)
http://www.mp3.com/Ljova/ (improvisations)
"Do not fear mistakes - there are none."
-Miles Davis
- -
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:20:15 -0400
From: Jennifer Dahmus <jdahmus@exchange.juilliard.edu>
Subject: RE: upcoming NYC gigs [& Carny]
> sorry for the NYC-centric nature of this message, but there
> are a lot of potentially great shows coming up this week that I thought
> I'd make sure people knew about:
Also noteworthy is the upcoming performance of Zorn's Carny as part of
Juilliard's Piano Century series. (Carl Cranmer, pianist)
Tuesday, April 25, 8 pm, Paul Recital Hall, FREE
Other works by Vierk, Birtwistle, Carter, Danielpour, Murail, Shapey, Ades,
Kernis, Zwilich, and Harberg
Carny is first on the program.
Jeni
- -
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:16:25 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: derek & the ruins
At 04:57 PM 4/20/00 +0200, in.out wrote:
>Viergehello zorner
>
>just a word to ask you which label released the Derek & the ruins album ?
The first one is on Tzadik and the second on Paratactile.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more
than one way to conquer a country.
- -- Raymond Chandler
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:58:29 CDT
From: "samuel yrui" <nonintention@hotmail.com>
Subject: more cobra/game pieces
It's been asked so many times. Where can I acquire the guidlines or rules
for Cobra or any other game pieces. It seems like people keep asking, I'm
not sure if I've asked before, or a million times before, but if I have I've
never gotten an answer. And if anyone else who's asked has gotten an
answer, they've gotten it privately. So will someone just tell me either
where I can get my hands on this, or if not, would someone tell me why I
can't or why people are ambivalent or unwilling to share.
I have heard that in Bard College's music program there is a class that
utilizes various new methods of improvisation, from Pauline Oliveros'
meditations to Zorn's game pieces. As a music student I would like to try
them with a college ensemble. FOR EDUCATIONAL AND PRIVATE PURPOSES ONLY.
-samuel
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:01:27 CDT
From: "samuel yrui" <nonintention@hotmail.com>
Subject: boston punk question
Okay, two Boston punk bands I like a lot. Fat Day and Bullroarer. I know
this is somewhat off-topic but I was hoping someone knew.
I am moreso interested in Bullroarer. I was wondering if anyone could
give me the names of some "If you like Bullroarer, you'll love ______" kind
of bands. Just any other bands in this vein that you know of and where I
can get their albums from? or websites, etcetera?
thanks,
-samuel
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- -
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:02:37 +0100
From: "Vincent" <vmeersschaert@wanadoo.be>
Subject: Re: angelica festival in italy
Hi
The question should be: Is anyone going to racord the
shows/performances? Any chance of a radio broadcast.
Vincent
On 20 Apr 00, at 11:28, patRice wrote:
> hi there
>
> a friend of mine handed me the programme of the angelica festival in
> bologna/italy. taking place, as far as i can make out with my bad
> italian, from may 5 to may 14 and july 5 o july 6.
>
> their webpage is at www.aaa-angelica.com
>
> appearances by:
> bar kokhba (special edition for angelica; it says!!!)
> terry riley
> la monte young
> eyvind kang
> mike patton vs. the x-ecutioners (!)
> guus janssen
> ensemble modern playing frank zappa stuff
> and many more...
>
> there are also pre-concert talks with some of the composers; yes, with
> jz too!
>
> are any of the european members of this list attending any of the shows?
>
> yours,
> patRice
>
> -
>
>
My address is
Catherine Vercheval
PO BOX 859
B-1000 Brussels
Belgium
Please DO NOT use my name as it is my wife's po box.
- -
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:23:57 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: angelica festival in italy
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:02:37 +0100 "Vincent" wrote:
>
> The question should be: Is anyone going to racord the
> shows/performances? Any chance of a radio broadcast.
Wny? Not enough Masada records yet :-).
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:26:12 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert
Any comments on the following record:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** - KOMFORT 2000: Martin Siewert
Martin Siewert: guitar, lapsteel, devices; Wayne Horvitz: Nord Lead; Heige
Hinteregger: sampler, saxophones; Werner Dofeldecker: bass, electronics,
table guitar; Tony Buck: drums, percussion.
???? - Charhizma (Austria), cha007 (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, does anybody (read: Jon Abbey) know when it came out?
Thanks,
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:21:33 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert
In a message dated 4/21/00 7:26:55 PM, proussel@ichips.intel.com writes:
<< Any comments on the following record:
- - KOMFORT 2000: Martin Siewert >>
I don't have a copy of this yet, although I'm getting one this weekend. like
most Charhizma titles, it has minimal US distribution.
<<Werner Dofeldecker>>
it's actually Dafeldecker, who's also just been added to my list of upcoming
artists, in duo with Dean Roberts.
<<Also, does anybody (read: Jon Abbey) know when it came out?>>
it came out on March 2.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:14:16 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcing@mospan.pl>
Subject: Odp: angelica festival in italy
BTW: does anybody whether Ensemble Modern will play the zappa stuff
somewhere else? Do they have a website?
And what is the 'special edition' of bar kokhba?
> hi there
>
> a friend of mine handed me the programme of the angelica festival in
> bologna/italy. taking place, as far as i can make out with my bad
> italian, from may 5 to may 14 and july 5 o july 6.
>
> their webpage is at www.aaa-angelica.com
>
> appearances by:
> bar kokhba (special edition for angelica; it says!!!)
> terry riley
> la monte young
> eyvind kang
> mike patton vs. the x-ecutioners (!)
> guus janssen
> ensemble modern playing frank zappa stuff
> and many more...
>
> there are also pre-concert talks with some of the composers; yes, with
> jz too!
>
> are any of the european members of this list attending any of the shows?
>
> yours,
> patRice
>
> -
>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:38:35 EDT
From: "Mathieu Belanger" <belanmat@MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: recommandation
Hello,
First of all, sorry for this message which is not related to Zorn...
Could anyone give me more details on the following recording of Ernst
Reijseger with Alan Purves. Is it good or should I avoid it?
Cellotape - Scotchtape
Data Records 822
Thank you very much,
Mathieu
- -
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:13:27 CDT
From: "samuel yrui" <nonintention@hotmail.com>
Subject: more cobra/game pieces
I'm hitting myself. I feel silly, I only own the Tokyo operations. I
didn't know I could find it in such an obvious and convenient way. Thank
you very much :)
-samuel
if my memory serves me..it was located in the first
cobra CD on hatart...
Tom
- --- samuel yrui <nonintention@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
blah blah blah, obtain scores blah blah Cobra.
> -samuel
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:08:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nicholas G Williams <ngw1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: Zorn and Snagglepuss
Hi,
I'm new to Zorn, and I was wondering if someone could give me some
information about Zorn and his composition Snagglepuss? I'm doing
research on him for a class project. If anyone knows his email address
(if he has one) that would be appreciated also. Thank you for your time.
Cordially,
Nic
Music Ed Major at Mississippi State University
ngw1@ra.msstate.edu
Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:13:57 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: more cobra/game pieces
At 01:13 PM 4/22/00 CDT, samuel yrui wrote:
>
>if my memory serves me..it was located in the first
>cobra CD on hatart...
Although there are notes in the first hat cd, my understanding is that this
is only a sample, and that the complete score is more extensive and more
complex than what is presented there. When the Cincinnati Cobra Group was
active, I discussed it briefly with one of the members, and he said there
were around three dozen different hand signals alone, and the CCG only
incorporated a fraction thereof. He also said that they were under strict
orders, apparently from JZ himself, not to reveal too much about the score.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more
than one way to conquer a country.
- -- Raymond Chandler
- -
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