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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #902 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Friday, March 31 2000 Volume 02 : Number 902 In this issue: - Re: Fwd: Fw: The US Government Strikes Again -- Please read this and act immediately!!! Re: soul on soul review recent goodies Re: recent goodies Re: recent goodies previte/weather clear track fast A Few questions Re: recent goodies Jump10 @ the Brecht Re: previte/weather clear track fast RE: previte/weather clear track fast Prelapse in NY My favorite Masada derp Conlon Nancarrow Re: My favorite Masada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:02:01 -0500 From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@mac.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: The US Government Strikes Again -- Please read this and act immediately!!! It's a hoax. House resolutions get HR numbers; in the Senate they start with S. There's no P designation for bills. More info here: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/internet.htm At 11:16 AM -0500 3/29/00, Velaires@aol.com wrote: >This is a very relevant piece of information: > > > > > > postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the Federal Govt to > > > > > charge a 5 cent surcharge on every email delivered, by > > billing > > > > > Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:53:35 -0700 From: "Tom Johnson" <signals2000@home.com> Subject: Re: soul on soul review >Music should relax you, motivate > you, inspire you, or just make you feel good. Sounds like this guy needs to pick up another Kenny G album . . . Tom - ---------------------------- "Go for super-stud! Go for super-stud!" --Bill, on Freaks & Geeks "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that." --Lloyd, from Say Anything - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:53:25 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: recent goodies Brief notes on some of the more interesting recordings I've picked up lately. Even Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble, Drawn Inward (ECM). Lawrence Casserly comes on as an additional member, bringing the total roster count to seven. I like this one even more than their first. For a seven piece group, their sound is surprisingly delicate at times. There's not much overt soloing, but much more sonic creation. Sometimes Parker or Wachsmann will start something, and the processors will spin out extensions of the original. Very well done, and with excellent liner notes by Simon Emmerson. Fred Frith & Ensemble Modern, Traffic Continues (Winter & Winter). This disc contains two pieces (Traffic Continues I and II) Frith wrote for the Ensemble Modern, both somewhat aleatoric, consisting of 'a number of cells of composed music which can be juxtaposed with improvisation of various kinds.' The first piece is for the ensemble alone, and repeats melodic fragments, sometimes stretching out the notes to form long chords, sometimes breaking the melodies up in a klangfarben way among the various instruments. The second piece is a tribute to Tom Cora and not only features samples of Skeleton Crew, but the addition of Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori as soloists. The addition of so much electronics changes the fabric of the piece dramatically. Very complex music, very rewarding on repeated listenings. Horatiu Radulescu, Piano Concerto The Quest (CPO). After the recent thread on spectralists, I thought I'd try this piece. Radulescu shows a great debt to Messaien in the rhythmic and harmonic structures of the piece, which has little of the overt virtuosity I usually associate with concerti. And I also understand better the term spectralists (which could apply to the Parker album above as well), as he doubles the piano part with high strings and glockenspiel playing the overtones. One of the more imaginative and effective orchestral pieces I've heard from the 1990s. Chris Cutler and Thomas Dimuzio, Quake (ReR). After the Lehn/Hemingway improv album last year which I liked so much, here is another percussion/electronics duo improv session, but very different from the Lehn/Hemingway outings. Cutler and Dimuzio get a lot messier, pretty much along the lines you'd imagine from Dimuzio's solo electronics outing Headlock and Cutler's other duo improvs with Fred Frith and Zeena Parkins (all recommended as well). I hope this combination of improv outings becomes a more common format, there's lots of room to move around and lots of opportunity for great imaginative sonic creation. Derek and the Ruins, Saisoro (Tzadik). Since Bill was asking about the Japan series, I'll put in a quick word, even though probably most everyone has this. It's everything that Guitar Drum n Bass on Avant should have been. This is my first Ruins album, and the pace is very energetic throughout, but a little more variety than GDnB. Occasional vocalizing, but all three players are great. Jazzkammer (RuneGrammofon). Although the performance information is slim, this is probably a series of hard disk recordings rather than live improv sessions between a guitarist/noisemaker/turntablist and electronics player. The final sounds come out somewhere between Oval and Merzbow -- Oval for the skittering, almost recognizable sounds that self destruct fairly quickly, and Merzbow for the occasional onslaught and roar. RuneGrammofon brought us Supersilent albums last year, which I thought were an interesting extension of jazz, but this album has *nothing* to do with any jazz tradition I know or imagine. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:15:38 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: recent goodies In a message dated 3/29/00 9:49:51 PM, cdeupree@erinet.com writes: << Even Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble, Drawn Inward (ECM). Lawrence Casserly comes on as an additional member, bringing the total roster count to seven. I like this one even more than their first. For a seven piece group, their sound is surprisingly delicate at times. There's not much overt soloing, but much more sonic creation. Sometimes Parker or Wachsmann will start something, and the processors will spin out extensions of the original. Very well done, and with excellent liner notes by Simon Emmerson. >> I like this record also, but I think the ECM production gets in the way of the record, as it does on their first. I just feel like too many of the edges have been smoothed out, and not for any good reason. it's a shame this band only has recorded for ECM so far, at least from a fan's perspective. I'd be curious to hear a live recording of them. what's strange is I don't mind the production on the Wachsmann/Lytton duo CD, also on ECM. by the way, any fans of electronic improv should go see Voice Crack next Wednesday at Tonic. they're playing with their longtime occasional partners Borbetomagus, three sets, one of each solo and one together. the only problem is it's the same night as Tony Allen at the Knit, which isn't cool at all. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:28:55 EST From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: recent goodies In a message dated 3/29/00 9:49:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, cdeupree@erinet.com writes: << Jazzkammer (RuneGrammofon). Although the performance information is slim, this is probably a series of hard disk recordings rather than live improv sessions between a guitarist/noisemaker/turntablist and electronics player. The final sounds come out somewhere between Oval and Merzbow -- Oval for the skittering, almost recognizable sounds that self destruct fairly quickly, and Merzbow for the occasional onslaught and roar. RuneGrammofon brought us Supersilent albums last year, which I thought were an interesting extension of jazz, but this album has *nothing* to do with any jazz tradition I know or imagine. >> Picked this up from Rioux's a couple of weeks or so ago, and you can bet your bippy it ain't jazz! Merzbow may be a bit harsh of a comparison, as the duo of Hegre and Marhaug don't seem to be going for the "let's make this as painful for the listener as possible" sound ol' Merz seems to favor. I agree it's probably closer to the Japanoize scene of late than some of those really happy Nordic noise bands like Brighter Death Now and the lot. - -- np: Scott McGill's Hand Farm- Ripe =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:25:08 +1000 From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au> Subject: previte/weather clear track fast How does "Weather Clear, Track Fast" compare to "Too Close To The Pole"? I know they have similar instrumentations but is the quality of the music comparable? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:51:11 -0300 From: "BROGGI, GUSTAVO" <GUSTAVO.H.BROGGI@la2.Monsanto.com> Subject: A Few questions This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF9A36.F94B9A7A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Zornies; Does anybody knows where can I get information about Dave Slusser?. =20 I was listening Brubeck=B4s Tribute on Avant (Amazin record!!!), And I wondering if the Slowpoke lineup of the cd. have another recording. can somebody give a clue? Thanks in advance Gustavo - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF9A36.F94B9A7A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2448.0"> <TITLE>A Few questions</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Hi Zornies; Does anybody knows where can I = get information about Dave Slusser?. I was listening Brubeck=B4s Tribute = on Avant (Amazin record!!!), And I wondering if the Slowpoke lineup of = the cd. have another recording. can somebody give a clue? Thanks in advance Gustavo </BODY> </HTML> - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF9A36.F94B9A7A-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:04:50 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: Re: recent goodies At 10:15 PM 3/29/00 EST, JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 3/29/00 9:49:51 PM, cdeupree@erinet.com writes: > ><< Even Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble, Drawn Inward (ECM). > >I like this record also, but I think the ECM production gets in the way of >the record, as it does on their first. I just feel like too many of the edges >have been smoothed out, and not for any good reason. it's a shame this band >only has recorded for ECM so far, at least from a fan's perspective. I'd be >curious to hear a live recording of them. I'm glad to hear you say this. My first response to this music was, gee, not a lot of noise for seven players and four electronicists. On further listening I heard a lot of the delicate detail, but I'd still like to hear them cook. I've also heard that ECM's production did the same for Joe Morris and Matt Maneri. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:09:04 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: Jump10 @ the Brecht Neues Kabarett and Jump Arts are happy to announce... JUMP FESTIVAL 10 4 bands a night 4 nights in April Plus Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris Conduction Workshop Gold Sparkle Band CD release party Free Creative Sound Workshop for children Free Art & Poetry Invocation What more could you want? read on... Arts & Poetry Invocation Thursday, 4/13, 9 p.m. featuring painter Eli Neugeboren at The Pink Pony 176 Ludlow Street free JUMP FESTIVAL 10 at the Brecht Forum 122 W. 27th St., 10th Fl. $6/night Fri., 4/14 8 p.m. - Dance Improv Workshop 9 p.m. - Steve Dalachinsky w/ Cooper-Moore 10 p.m. - Leroy Jenkins solo 11 p.m. - Fire Sign (John Blum, Sabir Mateen, Tom Bruno) Sat., 4/15 8 p.m. - Ori Kaplan 4 9 p.m. Andrew Barker Trio w/Louie Belogenis & Shoko Nagai 10 p.m. Charles Gayle solo 11 p.m. Assif Tsahar's Zoanthropic Orchestra Fri., 4/21 8 p.m. - Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris Conduction #110 9 p.m. - Music for Percussion & Strings (Ryan Sawyer, Matt Heyner, Mat Maneri, John Blum) 10 p.m. - The Oscar Noriega Group 11 p.m. - Andrew Bemkey Trio (w/ Tom Abbs & Chad Taylor) Sat., 4/22 7 p.m. - Gold Sparkle Band CD release party (free) 8 p.m. - Gold Sparkle Band performance 9 p.m. - The David Boykins Outet 10 p.m. Mark Whitecage solo 11 p.m. - Steve Swell's Unified Theory of Sound (Jemeel Moondoc, Jackson Krall, Wilber Morris) +plus+ The Creative Sound Workshop A free music workshop for kids of all ages Saturday, April 22 - 1 p.m. at the Brecht Forum Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris Conduction Workshop Saturday, April 22 - 4 p.m. $10, also at the Brecht. unbelievable. for more info, call the Jump Hotline: 212.726.1729 or log on to JumpArts.org - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:01:10 -0500 From: Dan Hewins <dan@synsolutions.com> Subject: Re: previte/weather clear track fast My preference is for the "Too Close to the Pole" album. The other one came first, I believe. TCTTP has more driving beats and the compositions seem better to me. I checked out WCTF after TCTTP and I thought there wasn't as much there. It was less exciting. This is all coming from a distant memory, though. I haven't listened to either in months. Maybe I have to listen to TCTTP again tomorrow. Dan Hewins At 3:25 PM +1000 3/30/00, Julian wrote: >How does "Weather Clear, Track Fast" compare to "Too Close To The Pole"? I >know they have similar instrumentations but is the quality of the music >comparable? > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:49:18 -0300 From: Linares Hugo <hulinare@bemberg.com.ar> Subject: RE: previte/weather clear track fast > My preference is for the "Too Close to the Pole" album. The other > one came first, I believe. TCTTP has more driving beats and the > compositions seem better to me. I checked out WCTF after TCTTP and I > thought there wasn't as much there. It was less exciting. This is > all coming from a distant memory, though. I haven't listened to > either in months. Maybe I have to listen to TCTTP again tomorrow. > > Dan Hewins > > > > > At 3:25 PM +1000 3/30/00, Julian wrote: > >How does "Weather Clear, Track Fast" compare to "Too Close To The Pole"? > I > >know they have similar instrumentations but is the quality of the music > >comparable? > > > > > >- > > Weather Clear, Track Fast (Enja) is an interesting and deep album IMO; good musicians and fine playing all around. Can't speak on "Too close to the Pole", but I hope to in the next future; by the way: Label? Hugo Linares - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:16:50 EST From: Alejo88@aol.com Subject: Prelapse in NY Hey, Zorn-listers This is Alex of Prelapse writing again. I know the Zorn List isn't supposed to be a billboard for gigs, but this is special: it's our first set of shows in NYC since the release of our album last September. Hope you can make it out! Tues Apr 4 CBGB w/ Japanese bands Highteen Boogie and Masabilly $7 Wed Apr 12 CBGB w/ Blinder (Mason's other band), Saturnalia/Irrepressible Spirit (from Boston), and Roger That Houston (from PA) Sat May 20 KnitActive Soundstage 10pm $7 (plus a gig at Ottobar on Thur Apr 20 for you Baltimore/D.C. folk!) We'll be playing some tracks from the album, some Naked City, and we'll premiere a couple of new tunes. A good time will be had by all. . . . Thanks for reading! Alex www.blindermusic.com/prelapse - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:12:56 EST From: Brennansf@aol.com Subject: My favorite Masada << > > 1) Which would be a good Masada album to start out with? Should they be > > listened to in order, or does it not particularly matter? > I don't think it matters which one you start with. I decided the easy way, eenee meenee minee moe >> The one I listen to most, so I guess it's my favorite, is a live album I picked up in Germany back in 1995, after the first three Masada CDs had come out. It was recorded in New York in 1994, with a different drummer--the name escapes me right now, but I'm assuming it was the same one I saw play with Masada in Berlin around the same time. The energy on this CD is really fantastic, the "liveness" really comes through and adds a dimension to the music. I bought Live in Jerusalem last spring expecting more of the same, but frankly I was a little disappointed. How does Live in Mannheim compare with Jerusalem?? jb - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:27:29 PST From: "John Schuller" <kwashikor@hotmail.com> Subject: derp Cheap Promotional Ploy--- I am a fairly sick musician some of you might enjoy-- http://brokenmusick.tripod.com Also I went and saw Wayne Horvit's Zony MAsh last night. Fuck Yeah!!! I can't figure out why all the MMW hippies don't know about these guys? They slay MMW! Thanks, John Schuller "Every man... every man has to go through hell to reach paradise." -Max Cady ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:01:42 +1000 From: "Lee, Edgar" <Edgar.Lee@dva.gov.au> Subject: Conlon Nancarrow Does anyone have an opinion on the Conlon Nancarrow CD by Ensemble Modern? Aaron Chua - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:51:50 CEST From: "Andreas Dietz" <andreasdietz@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: My favorite Masada ><< > > 1) Which would be a good Masada album to start out with? Should >they >be > > > listened to in order, or does it not particularly matter? > > > > I don't think it matters which one you start with. I decided the easy > way, eenee meenee minee moe >> > >The one I listen to most, so I guess it's my favorite, is a live album I >picked up in Germany back in 1995, after the first three Masada CDs had >come >out. It was recorded in New York in 1994, with a different drummer--the >name >escapes me right now, but I'm assuming it was the same one I saw play with >Masada in Berlin around the same time. The energy on this CD is really >fantastic, the "liveness" really comes through and adds a dimension to the >music. I bought Live in Jerusalem last spring expecting more of the same, >but frankly I was a little disappointed. How does Live in Mannheim compare >with Jerusalem?? > >jb it┤s Kenny Wollesen, but I don┤t agree in your opinion about this bootleg-CD (bad sound and the music on other live CDs like Middelheim - not Mannheim - is better). Jerusalem I haven┤t heard right now... Andreas Dietz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #902 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com