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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #887
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Zorn List Digest Sunday, March 12 2000 Volume 02 : Number 887
In this issue:
-
Bill Frisell - Ghost Town.
Zony Mash - Upper Egypt...
Re: Andrew Hill new one
Re: Braxton Recs
Re: Andrew Hill new one
A quick retraction
Re: Recent Goo
brubeck tribute
RE: brubeck tribute
Formanek's Low Profile, Carla Bley
Tim Sparks' "Neshamah" on Tzadik
Newly Updated Site for Jazz Collectors & Traders!
Review: V/A, _Knitting On The Roof_
a zorn interview without the term "postmodern bad boy"
Re: a zorn interview without the term "postmodern bad boy"
masada videos?
zorn interviews
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:08:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Bill Frisell - Ghost Town.
I've just had the pleasure of listening to this
fine album, and I must say it's quite pleasing to the
ear. I consider myself to be a Frisell fan, to a
large degree, but I tend to still have preferences
about some albums over others. Specifically speaking,
everything he did from '89 to '93, when he was
recording with Joey Baron and Kermit Driscoll, I find
absolutely amazing. In terms of a band leader,
composer, and guitarist. The albums from '94 to '99
had a laid back, almost country/twang feel that was
nice and interesting but not quite as appealing as the
Post-Modern Jazz stuff of the earlier recordings.
That's why the new album "Ghost Town" appeals to
me so much. It's got both worlds. Frisell seems to
remember his roots in the Post-Modern world, as well
as moving on with the sophisticated country feel. As
I listen to the new album, it seems as though Frisell
had challenged himself to be interesting at all times,
never gratuitous, and never flawed. A beautiful
balance when it can be achieved, and this album does
just that.
Ghost Town.
=====
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:12:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zony Mash - Upper Egypt...
All I can say about this one is, if you like Zony
Mash you'll love it. It's great. If you don't like
the band, this album won't change you mind. I find it
typical Horvitz. ...and as such, I enjoy it...
=====
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:54:28 EST
From: Nervenet@aol.com
Subject: Re: Andrew Hill new one
Somebody wrote:
<<> Does anybody know on what label this Andrew Hill sextet (with Marty
Ehrlich) will be released?
It's on Palmetto and is due out next Tuesday (3/14).>>
Sorry to burst the bubble, but this release has been cancelled for reasons I
don't know. I buy Palmetto for my store from Allegro Distribution and both
label and distributor have told me that it's cancelled without giving a
satisfactory reason.
Patrick Brown
Nervenet@aol.com
P.S. Andrew Hill does appear on the new Greg Osby CD on Blue Note, if you're
interested. It's somewhat subdued, though.
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:29:31 EST
From: Nervenet@aol.com
Subject: Re: Braxton Recs
Someone asked for easy to find and in print Braxton recommendations, and
while that cuts out some of my very faves ("Creative Music Orchestra Koln
1978" 2CD set on hatArt; any of the mid-70's collaborations with Dave
Holland, especially "Five Pieces 1975" and "The Montreaux-Berlin Concerts"),
I can work with it. I don't think anyone on list will disagree that anything
you turn up with his quartet of Braxton/Marilyn Crispell/Mark Dresser/Gerry
Hemingway ought to be snapped up. And for me at least, this included the
later stuff (especially "Santa Cruz 1993" 2CD set on hatArt) once they'd
reformed even moreso than the well-documented 1985 tour of this group
available on three 2-disc sets from Leo Records. But really, get anything
with this group. You asked about the "Charlie Parker Project 1993" and I
think it's great. One disc studio with Pheeroan Aklaff and one disc live with
Han Bennink. In a similar vein, i also like hearing him tackle the works of
other composers when it's all one composer on a disc - there are tributes to
Monk ("Six Monk's Compositions" on Black Saint) and Lennie Tristano ("Eight
(+3) Tristano Compositions" on hatArt) that I really enjoy, though I've heard
others say they don't like them. Personally I would avoid his other
"standards" and "In the Tradition" albums. It's kinda neat for a minute or so
to hear him rip all over a classic, but the other players aren't with him
generally and he leaves them in the dust. One exception would be "Seven
Standards 1995 Quintet," co-credited to bassist Mario Pavone and featuring
AkLaff, Dave Douglas and Thomas Chapin running through some familiar tunes.
Like the Charlie Parker project, these start from familiar points and move
increasingly out as they progress. But basically, I'd skip the standards
albums he made circa the early 70's, where he felt he had to prove something
by playing standards. Him playing his own music from the period is excellent.
Lately he's been releasing things on his own Braxtonhouse label and I'm sure
there's someone here who can recommend things from there. I have only one of
them "Octet New York 1995" and like it, but it hasn't yet grabbed me the way
earlier albums of his have. In fact, I'd like to hear if anyone knows those
albums well enough to recommend as well.
On another note, can anyone recommend releases from Willem Breuker's
catalog as a leader? I just picked up "Heimel" and enjoy it, but still don't
know his M.O. and wonder what else is good in his world. Is it always larger
ensembles like this? Do they all sound scored like this (which is fine, I'm
just curious)? Any help is appreciated.
Patrick Brown
Nervenet@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:07:22 -0500
From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Andrew Hill new one
Nervenet@aol.com wrote:
> Sorry to burst the bubble, but this release has been cancelled for reasons I
> don't know. I buy Palmetto for my store from Allegro Distribution and both
> label and distributor have told me that it's cancelled without giving a
> satisfactory reason.
That may be because there was a mistake on the initial pressing and it
had to be re-done.
As far as I know it's still set for release. At least, I know that
Howard Mandel has written liner notes for it, and Down Beat has assigned
me to review it.
I have an advance copy here on my desk.
James Hale
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:11:44 EST
From: Nervenet@aol.com
Subject: A quick retraction
I posted that the Andrew Hill release had been cancelled before I had caught
up on the list's postings and I should amend my statement. I am basing it on
3 week-old information. If a new date of May something has since been stated,
by all means, believe the person who said so and not my doom-n-gloom
cancellation story.
Patrick Brown
Nervenet@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:43:51 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
Subject: Re: Recent Goo
At 3:42 PM 3/10/00, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:01:06 -0800 Dave Trenkel wrote:
>>
>> Wayne Horvitz & Zony Mash - Upper Egypt(Knitting Factory): Another Zony
>> Mash record, and I feel like this band keeps getting incrementally better
>
>I was a little bit frustrated by how short the version of Upper Egypt is. I
>have seen the band stretching it more for than 10mn and here, it is almost
>just the theme and no improvisation (kind of a radio-friendly version...).
>Upper Egypt is a not a piece for a single.
I agree. The song itself is basically a blowing vehicle, and live, ZM can
really take it places, Tim Young in particular, who, I think, is one of the
more interesting new guitarists around. I don't dislike the album version,
but I know it could go much further.
>
> Patrice.
>
>PS: like Dave Trenkel, I was puzzled by Alan Lich's statement on Jimi Hendrix.
>In fact, it would have made more sense to compare Ray with Sonny Sharrock.
Especially since Licht dismisses Sharrock as a comparison to Russell
because, "Sharrock isn't really rock." That's true, but, as evidenced by
the more composed material on the 2nd CD, neither is Russell, who seems to
be coming from a blues/jazz background.
____________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org
Minus Web Site: http://listen.to/minusmusic
Minus MP3's: http://www.mp3.com/-minus-
____________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:07:00 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: brubeck tribute
The new Forced Exposure listing came today, and lists a Brubeck tribute on
Avant that includes many of our heroes (Caine, Frisell, MMW, Ruins, Baron,
Douglas, etc.). Anyone heard this or have a track/personnel listing?
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more
than one way to conquer a country.
- -- Raymond Chandler
- -
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:25:48 -0500
From: "Mark Corroto" <corroto@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: brubeck tribute
Blue Shadows In The Street Dave Slusser
Far More Blues Uri Caine
In Your Own Sweet Way Pachora
Summer Song Bill Frisell
Blue Rondo A LA Turk Ruins
Tokyo Traffic MM&W
The Duke Anthony Coleman
Calcutta Blues Eyvind Kang
Sixth Senth Slowpoke
Winter Ballad Erik Friedlander
Jumpin Sexmob
Nomad Dave Doulas
Three To Get Ready Joey Baron
Golden Horn David Krakauer
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Caleb T. Deupree
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 7:07 PM
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: brubeck tribute
The new Forced Exposure listing came today, and lists a Brubeck tribute on
Avant that includes many of our heroes (Caine, Frisell, MMW, Ruins, Baron,
Douglas, etc.). Anyone heard this or have a track/personnel listing?
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more
than one way to conquer a country.
- -- Raymond Chandler
- -
- -
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:41:45 +0100
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcing@mospan.pl>
Subject: Formanek's Low Profile, Carla Bley
I just bought Michael Formanek's "Low Profile" CD (with Douglas, Berne,
Smith, Lacy, Erlich, and Bonafede - BTW who is this guy?). I am seriously
inspired by this recording - are there any other recordings by the same (or
similiar) band?
I also got 'musique mechanique' by Carla Bley. Up to now I had just one of
her albums ('fleur carnivore'), and it wasn't very special - just a nice and
very well played modern big band music. This album, however, is different,
and I like it very much (although apparenly it hasn't been remastered so the
sound is rather flat). Could somebody recommend me some other things she
did? Is there any on-line info about her music?
Have fun,
Marcin Gokieli
"Oh Nick, I had the strangest dream!
I thought - how could I know what I was never taught?"
Stravinsky/Auden "The Rake's Progress"
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:10:36 +0100
From: "Artur Nowak" <arno@emd.pl>
Subject: Tim Sparks' "Neshamah" on Tzadik
Hi Philozorners,
I dont' remember anybody's comments about Tim Sparks' "Neshamah" album
released last year by Tzadik in the Radical Jewish Culture series.
IMHO, this album is great! Just solo acoustic guitar playing
beautifull traditional melodies. Tim's technique is excellent, I could
bet he did overdubbs in few tracks, but it's just him, playing with 5
fingers of his right hand. Really, an amazing guitarist. But not anly,
his arrangements are very interesting, some melodies are quite simple,
but Tim build whole "orchestration" around them. He plays odd meter
patterns easily, listening to it for the first time I was repeating
"wow, how he did that!". Ultimate listening!
Tim Sparks homepage: http://www.itascasw.com/timsparks/core.html
__________________________________________________________________
Artur Nowak [arno AT emd.pl]
www.emd.pl - Discography of Bill Frisell
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:19:36 +0200
From: infolit <infolit@klaipeda.omnitel.net>
Subject: Newly Updated Site for Jazz Collectors & Traders!
Dear List Members,
Our site JAZZ COLLECTORS & TRADERS at:
http://www.litinfo.lt/jazz/jazz_home.htm
has been completely updated!
That is why you are requested to visit it and tell us what you think,
so that we could make some changes and improvements.
Please also fill in the form
http://www.litinfo.lt/jazz/jazz_form.htm
if you wish to submit your ad and address to our site.
All your opinions and advice will be considered.
Thank you.
Igor Balenko
web-master
infolit@klaipeda.omnitel.net
- -
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:12:54 +0100
From: Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se>
Subject: Review: V/A, _Knitting On The Roof_
I=B4m so surprised there=B4s been so little mention of the wonderful _Knitti=
ng
on the Roof_ CD. I therefore humbly submit my own review; it has been
posted at the following website, where a couple of sound samples may also
be found.
http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/533.html
Various Artists, _Knitting On The Roof_ (Knitting Factory Works)
The phenomenally successful 1960s Broadway musical Fiddler on the Roof has
been much execreted by intellectuals for pasteurizing, banalizing and
commercializing the vanished Jewish culture of Eastern Europe. However,
with the advent of a "radical Jewish culture" among the downtown NYC
avantgarde and its unabashed fondness for pop culture, a rehabilitation of
the show has been in evidence. Some artists have already featured covers of
various tunes on their albums, while others have recycled the so-called
ersatz "Jewish" or klezmer sounds featured in the original, thereby
acknowledging Fiddler as a seminal influence -
a gesture defying the tastemakers' compartmentalizing culture into either
high- or low-brow.
_Knitting on the Roof_ is a rousing, humourous, affectionate look at the
world of Tevye the Milkman, his wife Golda, his five daughters and his
little town of Anatevka. On the whole, the only disappointment here is the
fact that no one saw fit to sample the voice of the Ur-Tevye, Zero Mostel.
Some renditions are just plain silly fun, like The Residents' version of
"Matchmaker", others are klezmer rave-ups ("Tradition" by the New Orleans
Klezmer Allstars or Hasidic New Wave's "Wedding Celebration"). Eugene
Chadborne deracinates "Miracles of Miracles" and places it smack-dab on
some back porch in Appalachia, all twanging guitars and
strumming banjoes, transforming it into a slightly bent hillbilly revival
song. Still others are played straight, like Uri Caine's touching "Sabbath
Prayer" with the Yiddish singer Lorin Sklamberg or Jill Sobule's
Brooklyn-inflected rendering of "Sunrise, Sunset". In between are choice
cuts of experimental derring-do,including Negativland's remarkable
deconstruction of "Tevye's Dream" or the duo Come's stroke of genius -
having Tevye ask Golda the seminal question "Do You Love Me?" over a pay
phone from some downtown deli. The Paradox Trio round things off with a
Sephardic-tinged version of the play's closing number,
"Anatevka", which relocates the little shtetl from the Pale of Settlement
to somewhere on the Balkan peninsula. But why not? When you're in love
(with good music), the whole world is Jewish!
Stephen Fruitman
- ----------------------------------
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Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:43:15 EST
From: Orangejazz@aol.com
Subject: a zorn interview without the term "postmodern bad boy"
i was thinking, i don't know if the rest of the list is with me on this, but
there are probably enough people on the list that have some intereaction with
zorn to pull it off, that we could develop a set of questions to get to the
man. Stuff that's not really covered in the interviews. I mean, there
probably aren't a lot of people as familiar with Zorn's body of work as the
people on this list, and in the JazzTimes article he seemed to be generally
empathetic about his supporters.
Is anyone interested in assembling this?
from,
matt
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:42:28 -0000
From: "ian r watson" <toshinori@lineone.net>
Subject: Re: a zorn interview without the term "postmodern bad boy"
Personally, having read that Jazz Times interview (which I think it would be
a great idea if everyone just read instead of quoting bits in a Chinese
whispers kind of way), Zorn seems to have an aversion to being interviewed
at all.At one point he says (ok now I'm doing it )...
"I also felt that, in general, I just don't have that much to say,really.I
do music , and a lot of times I don't understand fully what it is that I'm
doing at the moment. I understand 10 years later what it was"
what I'm trying to say is this, can't we just leave the guy in peace and
enjoy his music without having to have it explained to us?, it takes away
the mystery and magic of what music is for me................just a thought
.......Ian.
> i was thinking, i don't know if the rest of the list is with me on this,
but
> there are probably enough people on the list that have some intereaction
with
> zorn to pull it off, that we could develop a set of questions to get to
the
> man. Stuff that's not really covered in the interviews. I mean, there
> probably aren't a lot of people as familiar with Zorn's body of work as
the
> people on this list, and in the JazzTimes article he seemed to be
generally
> empathetic about his supporters.
> Is anyone interested in assembling this?
>
> from,
> matt
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:43:02 -0600
From: neongreen7 <neongreen7@prodigy.net>
Subject: masada videos?
if anyone has a good Masada video, i'd love to get a copy. being from
minnesota, i've never had the chance to see them, or any of its members
play.
thanks,
craig
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:46:49 -0600
From: neongreen7 <neongreen7@prodigy.net>
Subject: zorn interviews
any zorn interveiw archives around the 'net?
thanks....again,
craig
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