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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #859 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Wednesday, February 23 2000 Volume 02 : Number 859 In this issue: - mingus/denio RE: Wright, Rainey bird, mingus The complete Masada Songbook Flaming amp Mingus & Books Re: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) otomo and gustafsson cds? Re: otomo and gustafsson cds? So. How'd it happen? Re: Mingus & Books NELS CLINE & GREGG BENDIAN IN SEATTLE 2/26! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:14:21 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: mingus/denio as has been said already here, it's hard to go wrong with charles. (in the notes to the hal willner-produced mingus tribute 'weird nightmare,' which i highly recommend, dr. john tells a story about meeting him and calling him 'charlie.' he responded 'charles' and walked away. a few years later, they met again, and unsure what he was supposed to say, dr. j called him 'mr. mingus,' to which he replied 'charles' and walked away.) some of the 'classic' mingus dates are a little tight'n'glossy for me. 'ah um' 'blues and roots' and 'mingus mingus mingus mingus mingus' are important works, but a little constrained-feeling. my unwavering favorite for 14 years has been 'mingus presents mingus.' 'black saint and the sinner lady' is also truly truly great. once your feet are saturated, go get 'mingus plays piano,' a beautiful, stream of consciousness solo piano set. then, when you're ready to kick back and relax a little, go get 'oh yeah.' be forwarned that 'the clown' has not aged well (unless it was always embarassing). 'new tiajuana moods' has been mentioned and is great, as is 'mingus dynasty' (the record, not the band) and 'mingus revisited' (which includes two tracks of two ellington compositions played simultaneously). the dark horse in the baron's arsenal is a soundtrack record called 'cumbia and jazz fusion.' don't let the title scare you. two long tracks. the cumbia piece is irresistable. and that's not even getting into live dates (except for one). as for the amy denio disc on kfw, i really like it alot. diverse, homespun, odd, multitracked songs and sounds. very cool record. i don't know a lot about her. she was in billy tipton mem sax 4, and i come across her name on occaision (recent project with frith, i believe), but i've never found anything else that helps me make sense of this eccentric, wonderful record. you won't play it every week, but you'll be happy when you do. make the trade. kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:28:34 -0600 From: "John Thomas" <jgthomas@nortelnetworks.com> Subject: RE: Wright, Rainey This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF7E4D.51F3329C Content-Type: text/plain >>Tom Gatzen wrote: >> >>Does anyone know of any other CD's that Jack Wright is on? > >www.forcedexposure.com carries a couple. And I was at a Nmperign show >at Flywheel in Easthampton, MA a few months ago, just a few days >before Wright was to be playing Flywheel, and I think I remember Greg >or Bhob saying one of them was on a CD with Jack, or they were going >to be on an upcoming CD with Jack. I could be making that up in my >head, but it's what I remember. > >Otie One disc with Bhob Rainey & Jack Wright I like is _Crawlspace/Universal Noir_, on the Tautology label: http://members.aol.com/tautology3/recordings.html#catalog. However the majority of the disc is duets between Bhob Rainey and Eric Rosenthal, with only one track a quartet of Rainey, Rosenthal, Wright & Taylor Ho Bynum. So you don't get too much Wright on this if that's what you're after. John - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF7E4D.51F3329C Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2651.65"> <TITLE>RE: Wright, Rainey</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> >>Tom Gatzen wrote: >> >>Does anyone know of any = other CD's that Jack Wright is on? > >www.forcedexposure.com = carries a couple. And I was at a Nmperign show >at Flywheel in Easthampton, = MA a few months ago, just a few days >before Wright was to be = playing Flywheel, and I think I remember Greg >or Bhob saying one of them = was on a CD with Jack, or they were going >to be on an upcoming CD with = Jack. I could be making that up in my >head, but it's what I = remember. > >Otie One disc with Bhob = Rainey & Jack Wright I like is _Crawlspace/Universal Noir_, on the Tautology = label: <A = HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/tautology3/recordings.html#catalog" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://members.aol.com/tautology3/recordings.html#cata= log</A>. However the = majority of the disc is duets between Bhob Rainey and Eric = Rosenthal, with only one track = a quartet of Rainey, Rosenthal, Wright & Taylor Ho Bynum. So you don't get = too much Wright on this if that's what you're after. John </BODY> </HTML> - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF7E4D.51F3329C-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:33:27 -0800 From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com Subject: bird, mingus Surprised not to see any favorite Bird postings yet (as of last digest) - -- I think he's as great as any improvisor in the 20th Century. Here's a few off the top of my head (some of the titles may be approximate): The Charlie Parker Story -- I think he's sitting on a throne on the cover. This is the session with the classic recording of Koko. There are some songs with multiple takes, which I usually find a bit tedious, but there was such drama going on throughout the session (including mystery piano players floating in and out, all documented on the liner notes), and the playing is top shelf. The Complete Live Charlie Parker on Savoy -- 4 CDs, many good live sessions including live with Dizzy at Carnegie Hall. Kenny Dorham is at the top of his game in his appearances. Miles also plays on some dates. Very attractive packaging. The Greatest Jazz Concert (AKA Jazz at Massey Hall). Diz, Bird, Bud, Mingus, Max. A classic. Essential. The Dial recordings are very very good too -- I actually prefer the "best of" to the "complete" because there's so many alternate takes. I find the Verve stuff a bit inconsistent. There's some very good stuff in there, but I can't recall album names at the moment. Regarding Mingus, I'd agree with most of what I've read. However, I also have a special affection for Changes 1&2 -- I love this band with George Adams and Don Pullen, and I think these sessions cook. Of course, this was my first exposure to Mingus and I saw this band roar during my formative years, so that adds sentimental value to my judgement. On the other hand, it was good enough to reel me in.... - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:49:43 +0100 From: "Rob Allaert" <rob.allaert@charity.nu> Subject: The complete Masada Songbook To all Zorn-agains, I produced an MP3 CD-ROM (698 Mb) with 143 Masada tracks (only 6 songs missing). All songs bitrate 128 - 44100 Hz. I added 24 playlists: 01 alef 02 beit 03 gimel 04 dalet 05 hei 06 vav 07 zayin 08 het 09 tet 10 yod 11 zevulun 12 issachar 13 bar kokhba 14 masada songbook (all) 15 slow & twisted (compilation) 16 slow & melodious (compilation) 17 steady & melodious(compilation) 18 steady & exotic(compilation) 20 twisted & short: (compilation) 21 fast klezmer (compilation) 22 rob's masada (compilation) 23 killer masada (compilation) 24 soothing masada (compilation) I also added beautiful Artwork files for the jewel case. This incredible CD-ROM is only intended for _real_ fans who already possess at least 7 Masada releases. This for obvious reasons. Anyone interested? Mail me privately at "rob@charity.nu" - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:02:58 +1100 From: "Lee, Edgar" <Edgar.Lee@dva.gov.au> Subject: Flaming amp Recently I was playing the Fennesz Plays single over and over again trying to make out the references to the originals when I decided to take a break and listen to Cecil Taylor's Jazz Advance. After Cecil finished I heard crackling from the amp. I had a look and saw flames in the amp which I put out. Has anyone else had a amp catch fire or should I have expected this after playing too much Fennesz and Cecil Taylor? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:16:09 +0100 From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcing@mospan.pl> Subject: Mingus & Books Altghough somebody mentioned the "weird nightmare" - the Hal Wilner tribute to mingus - I think it deserves more attention: it's an exceptional album. The only other comaprable 'tribute' stuff I know ( a very different thing, anyhow) is Caine's Mahler. You'll find a lot of good freinds onit - Bill Frisell, Joey Baron, Vernon reid, Don Byron ... also (if memory serves) Keith Richards... Concerning books: does anyone here know a swedish writer Lars Gustafsson? He's quite incredible. His books (I know three of them - 'the wool', 'the death of the beekeeper' and 'the family feast' - i do not know if those are the english titles, i read them in polish) are quite strange - quite 'normal' on first impression, but they become more and more strange as you continue the reading. They include both some super-realist description of life in small towns in Sweden where NOTHING EVER happens, and quasi-surrealist descriptions of the dreams and hopes of the persons envolved - always seeking to escape the sorry and BORING conditions they are living in. In an unclear way it makes me think of JZ' approach to music - popular melodies & muasic genres, etc. Other literary stuff I could recommend is P.K. Dick (no mystery) and L.F. Celine (for Torture Garden fans ;-)... Be well, Marcin "Oh Nick, I had the strangest dream! I thought - how could I know what I was never tought?" Stravinsky/Auden "The Rake's Progress" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:52:13 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: Re: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) At 02:26 PM 2/23/00 -0500, Brian Olewnick wrote: > >Carl Hiasson's 'Sick Puppy' (lo-grade fun) Funny, I just finished Skin Tight by the same author. Unusual crime novels by a man who still has enough sense to be outraged, everything I've read by him has been excellent. Also, people into travel essays should read Robert Kaplan's Ends of the Earth, wherein our interpid traveler visits (and has very interesting perspectives on) highly obscure places in west Africa, central Asia, and southeast Asia. I'll also include another recommendation for Willner's Mingus tribute. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:06:11 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: otomo and gustafsson cds? I've been perusing back issues of the Wire, and the November issue (with Iggy on the cover) has an ad for a cd by Mats Gustafsson & Nu-Ensemblen, Hidros One, a piece for nine improvisers, tape, and conductor. Barry Guy and Raymond Strid are also mentioned. Anyone heard this and can comment? It's not at any of my usual sources, so I'd also appreciate a tip on where I might be able to find this stateside (it's on Caprice, a Swedish label -- not listed at Cadence, Forced, or Anomalous). Also, the most recent Cadence mentions a cd on ChapChap by Kang Tae Hwan (alto) which also includes Otomo and Ned Rothenberg. Anyone have additional info on this item? - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:38:49 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: otomo and gustafsson cds? In a message dated 2/23/00 7:01:45 PM, cdeupree@erinet.com writes: << Also, the most recent Cadence mentions a cd on ChapChap by Kang Tae Hwan (alto) which also includes Otomo and Ned Rothenberg. Anyone have additional info on this item? >> from Patrice's discography (www.wnur.org/jazz/artists/yoshihide.otomo/discog.html): - ------------------------------------------ 048 - KANG TAE HWAN: Kang Tae Hwan Solo and duos with Ned Rothenberg and Otomo Yoshihide. 1/ Solo I (Kang Tae Hwan) 14:01 2/ Duo I (Kang, Rothenberg) 8:03 3/ Duo II (Kang, Yoshihide) 15:11 4/ Solo II (Kang Tae Hwan) 14:11 5/ Trio (KTH, NR, OY) 19:22 (1,2,4) recorded at cafe Amores (Hofu) on September 1, 1994 (3,5) recorded at Pepperland (Okayama) on August 30, 1994 Kang Tae Hwan: alto; Ned Rothenberg: alto, bass clarinet; Otomo Yoshihide: turntables. 1995 - Chap Chap (Japan), CPCD-001 (CD) Note: this CD also features liner notes by Ned Rothenberg. - ------------------------------------------ I haven't played my copy in a couple of years, but I recall liking it a lot, especially the Otomo tracks. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:51:55 -0800 From: Greg Mills <gregm@tonic360.com> Subject: So. How'd it happen? I'm curious about where you all began your exploration of "New" and/or difficult music. In my own case, as much as you can trace this sort of thing, my interest began with Zappa (as much reading about him as listening to him), King Crimson and various and sundry Bop. I am not a musician, but I appreciated that there was something more going on then 4/4: Oh, baby. The CDs making the scene these days in my player are: Ensemble Moderne doing Conlon Nancarrow, UI "Sharpie" EP, Japan "Tin Drum", Zappa "Jazz From Hell", Zorn "Red Bird" and I'm on a Big Black jones while dans l'auto. So how'd it start for you? Are you a musician? Can you carry a tune? If you have kids, do you listen to Zorn with them? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:00:42 +1100 From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au> Subject: Re: Mingus & Books > Altghough somebody mentioned the "weird nightmare" - the Hal Wilner tribute > to mingus - I think it deserves more attention: it's an exceptional album. > The only other comaprable 'tribute' stuff I know ( a very different thing, > anyhow) is Caine's Mahler. You'll find a lot of good freinds onit - Bill > Frisell, Joey Baron, Vernon reid, Don Byron ... also (if memory serves) > Keith Richards... From memory, I don't think Joey Baron is on it. Maybe you mean Art Baron? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:09:02 -0800 From: "James Kirchmer" <jamesk@telisphere.com> Subject: NELS CLINE & GREGG BENDIAN IN SEATTLE 2/26! FYI to the members of this list that live in the Northwest: check out this killer free jazz concert!!!! (note as well that this duo plays the Cobalt Lounge in Portland on 2/25) Coming to Seattle, WA this weekend: ======================================= NELS CLINE / GREGG BENDIAN - INTERSTELLAR SPACE REVISITED: THE MUSIC OF JOHN COLTRANE ======================================= APPEARING FEBRUARY 26th at THE RAINBOW in SEATTLE, WA **** with opening act: PROJECT W **** ======================================= COST: $7 DOS (no advance tickets) TIME: 9:30pm sharp =============================================== AT: THE RAINBOW, 722 NE 45th St. (U-District) 206-634-1761 *21 & OVER ONLY unfortunately* =============================================== ***The Rainbow is pleased to welcome two incredibly talented, accomplished, & versatile musicians to Seattle: electric guitarist *NELS CLINE* (of GERALDINE FIBBERS, SCARNELLA, BANYAN, MIKE WATT, THURSTON MOORE, & NELS CLINE TRIO fame, among others) *and* percussionist *GREGG BENDIAN* (of "SIGN OF FOUR" - w/PAT METHENY, INTERZONE, TRIO PIANISSIMO, CECIL TAYLOR, DEREK BAILEY, & PETER BROTZMANN fame, etc.) for what promises to be a truly ~SPECIAL~ night of music! Nels & Gregg are touring behind their *HIGHLY ACCLAIMED* album "Interstellar Space Revisited: The Music of John Coltrane" (Atavistic Records - http://www.atavistic.com) - - which recently made WIRE (UK) Magazine's TOP TEN JAZZ CD's OF 1999 LIST *and* is praised by none other than RASHIED ALI HIMSELF in a four-page cover-story spread currently found in the February issue of JAZZIZ Magazine! - - From Wire: (7/99, p.53) "...the duo confirm the depth of their communion with Coltrane's music, Cline floating his notes on Bendian's vibraphone ripples. A poignant end to a fearlessly executed project." - - From Alternative Press: (10/99, p.83) - [4 out of 5 stars] "...Cline's range is extraordinary...maintaining a clear vision that unifies the disparate elements of Coltrane's music...Gregg Bendian's drumming strikes an impressive balance between raw power and avant-jazz..." This Seattle performance will, like their above-mentioned live CD, find them "covering" John Coltrane & Rashied Ali's CLASSIC duo album "Interstellar Space" (rec. in 1967, just before John's death) in its ENTIRETY! They'll offer up their own rendition, if you will, of this landmark session - along with some other choice late-era Coltrane selections!!!!! Whether you choose to call their creations free jazz, space music, avant-garde exploration, experimental improvisation, (((or what have you))) one thing's for SURE: THIS IS PASSIONATE, AWE-INSPIRING *SOUL* MUSIC. = For some high quality samples of each track on Nels Cline & Gregg Bendian's "Interstellar Space Revisited: The Music of John Coltrane" - visit their page within Yahoo MUSIC at: http://musicfinder.yahoo.com/shop?d=c&id=318967&cf=10 (Audio samples are also available via amazon.com FYI) = Also: for more on Nels Cline, there are a couple of great articles linked up via his "unofficial" homepage: http://people.we.mediaone.net/dbeihoff/NCAS/index.html ***The opening band this evening, PROJECT W, is a fiery trio that features saxophonist WALLY SHOUP alongside cellist BRENT ARNOLD (Ota-Prota) & drummer GREG CAMPBELL. More on this fine band of Seattle-based & free-jazz-influenced improvisers can be found via Wally's website: http://www.speakeasy.org/wshoup/ Led by Wally, a longtime Seattle-based and world-renowned saxophone adventurer (who, like Nels Cline, has also recorded w/Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore), Project W are one of Seattle's most exciting live music acts, regardless of "genre" - and the word on these guys is spreading: In the fall of 1999, Wally toured with guitarist Thurston Moore & the great Philly-based percussionist Toshi Makihara. Their 9/20/99 Boston show was recorded and will be released on the Sublingual Label this Spring. Already out, on the other hand (on Shrat Field Recordings), is a limited-edition LP showcasing PROJECT W's excellent opening performance for SONIC YOUTH at Seattle's Moore Theatre in 1998. No doubt highly impressed by Wally's uniquely wide-open free-jazz vocabulary, Thurston sought him out for this recent collaboration, and more will encounters are bound to follow. In the meantime, remember that: +++++++ A SHOW LIKE THIS DOESN'T COME AROUND VERY OFTEN!! +++++++ - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #859 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? 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