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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #853
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, February 9 2000 Volume 02 : Number 853
In this issue:
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RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
Re: loft scene reissues
oops
tiny bell trio "constellations"
Re: tiny bell trio "constellations"
Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
zorny entertainment
Django Eyvind Trane
Loft stuff/Sun City Girls
RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
more on the Taboo pic
Re: Django Eyvind Trane
Re: more on the Taboo pic
knit classics
brad shepik and the commuters
kenny
Re: brad shepik and the commuters
zeena parkins info
eBay auctions
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:22:18 -0800 (PST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A?= <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
Subject: RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
Yes!!!
I thought I was the only freak who spent endless minutes removing
stickers from the CD shrinkwraps really carefully and sticked them to
the case!!!
It┤s sad only Tzadik and Relapse records do the CD-jacket thing...I
think they look neat.
A
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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:35:55 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: loft scene reissues
Dante Sawyer wrote:
> does anyone know of any other loft-era CD reissues
> that have been released within the past year?
Not a reissue but a first-time issue of a chunk of unknown latter day left
music... drummer Todd Capp recently issued a recording of his own music
from 1978 with a group called the Improvising Orchestra. Ray Anderson,
William Parker and Rashid Bakr are in the group, as are a number of notable
unknowns and where-are-they-nows - trumpeter Arthur Williams (disappeared),
saxophonist James Lott (playing gospel in Atlanta), guitarist Kim Starner (a
monstrous shredder now playing bouzouki in restaurants in Greece),
percussionist Augustus Goertz (a visual artist who remains lurking around
the periphery of the scene). Capp was a participant in the loft scene and
the CBGBs scene as well, but left music in 1983 (to become a successful art
gallery operator in the East Village) and is only just coming back,
encouraged by Stephanie Stone (one of the leading audients of the downtown
scene since Ayler was playing the Vanguard) and emboldened by the Vision
Festival.
I wrote the liner notes for the first CD, self-released on the Lucky Tiger
imprint, then had a bit of a personal conflict with Capp and took my name
off the disc (I think they still got used... a bit of an "Alan Smithee" job,
I guess). Nevertheless, there's some outstanding music on it, and Kim
Starner, were he still around, would be a major player on the Knit scene...
his playing on this session borrows from Sharrock but also anticipates
elements of the styles of Thurston Moore, Tronzo, Sharp, even Frisell. (Did
I mention that he's now playing restaurant gigs in Athens?)
Downtown Music Gallery carries the disc - it was in a recent DMG
newsletter. And when last I spoke with Capp he had more tapes in the works,
including one with an intense version of Coltrane's "Reverend King." He's
got some great stories, too. One of his first sessions while he lived in
Chicago in the '60s included Roscoe Mitchell, Lester Bowie, Elvin Bishop and
Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup. The mind fairly reels... He also played drums for
one of Tim Berne's first-ever New York gigs, on the traffic island in
TriBeCa where you get off the 1/9 trains to go to Roulette. Meryl Streep
was in the "audience."
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
NP - Nels Cline, "Peacemaker," 'The Music of Eric von Essen, Vol. 1'
(Cryptogramophone) - various artists tribute to late West Coast bassist
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:31:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt9@yahoo.com>
Subject: oops
Sorry, I sent that last message to the wrong list.
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:05:50 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: tiny bell trio "constellations"
Is the Dave Douglas/Tiny Bell Trio album "Constellations" available
anywhere anymore?
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:16:35 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: tiny bell trio "constellations"
In a message dated 2/8/00 2:09:59 AM, jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au writes:
<< Is the Dave Douglas/Tiny Bell Trio album "Constellations" available
anywhere anymore? >>
don't know, but Hat Art plans to reissue it fairly soon according to their
web site (www.hathut.com).
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 03:35:26 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
In a message dated 2/7/00 11:45:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jzitt@metatronpress.com writes:
<< For those that are too large (such as the
music/romance series with their additional outer sleeves, or the
double-disc such as Lacrosse), I've found that they fit inserted
sideways into the packaging. >>
Aren't they called OBI sleeves? Anyway, being the "pack rat" and one who
keeps every sticker and insert that comes in a CD, i've always kept them as
above. The tough ones to keep are the ones that fit across the *top* of the
CD's jewel box. Never found a way to store them other than folding them in
half and inserting them in the CD booklet.
To take this a step further...does anyone put the CD booklet in backwards, so
that it's easier to remove and prevents the ends of the pages from getting
frayed?
- --
spinning: Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung- We Need New Animals
=dg=
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:12:07 -0500
From: "Bob Kowalski" <BKowalski@genetics.com>
Subject: zorny entertainment
... Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any fun/practical use for
those "CD-Jackets" that come on every Tzadik Disc? After buying the disc,
that is....
- slip 'em in cd cover for future generations
- collect 'em all and trade in for a large fries at participating' =
dealers
- w/ cardboard, glue and scissors make a collage
- use to wrap incredibly small birthday / holiday gifts
- insert randomly into utility bills, rent check envelope, letters to =
relatives
- make paper hats for Barbie and Ken
- tape together for way cool book jackets
Happy listening & Have a blast !
Bob=20
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:45:00 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Django Eyvind Trane
Ribot's Django project (which includes Eyvind -- who is male, btw -- in the
Grapelli role) has been booked a half-dozen or so times at the Knit. Many, maybe
all, of those times, another project was substituted. I'm not sure if it has
ever actually been performed.
Margo Red wants Trane recs. Call me a sap, but "A Love Supreme" is really the
locus, if not the best. I'd say get that first. "Kulu Se Mama", "Expression",
"Interstellar Space" and "Live at the Village Vanguard Again" are my faves, but
you'll have to determine if you want to go forward (more free) or backward (more
standard) from 1965. If you're looking to spend money, get the compete Live at
the Village Vanguard box (which doesn't include the "Again" disc mentioned
above).
kg
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:04:17 EST
From: Nervenet@aol.com
Subject: Loft stuff/Sun City Girls
Dante wrote:
<< does anyone know of any other loft-era CD reissues that have been released
within the past year?>>
Don't know if you count '82 and '83 as "loft era" (maybe "post-loft
era"?) but this seems like as good an excuse as any to mention that the label
About Time has just reissued Henry Threadgill Sextett's "When Was That?" and
"Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket." Both are great.
Also, I'm passing along a plea for a friend who's looking for some Sun
City Girls material that he's having trouble finding. I figured if anyone had
the items or a line on how to get them it'd be this bunch. He's looking for
these releases: "Jacks Creek," "Dulce," "Juggernaut," "New Sessions People,"
"Songs From Days Gone By." If anyone has these and is willing to sell at a
reasonable price (which is for him to determine, so don't ask me what i mean
by that) or knows where he might be able to acquire them, please contact me
off-list.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Patrick M. Brown
Nervenet@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:12:30 -0700
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S) " <M_WIRZBICKI@ColoradoCollege.edu>
Subject: RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
>The tough ones to keep are the ones that fit across the *top* of
>the
>CD's jewel box. Never found a way to store them other than folding them
>in
>half and inserting them in the CD booklet.
I might suggest taking the black plastic section out and putting the little
piece of consumer joy between the back cover insert and the black plastic CD
holding device.
>To take this a step further...does anyone put the CD booklet in
>backwards, so
>that it's easier to remove and prevents the ends of the pages from
>getting
>frayed?
This significantly alters the aesthetics of the cover, yes? I'd compromise
the frayed edges in most cases.
Matt
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:11:05 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers
In a message dated 2/8/00 11:14:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
M_WIRZBICKI@ColoradoCollege.edu writes:
<< >To take this a step further...does anyone put the CD booklet in
>backwards, so
>that it's easier to remove and prevents the ends of the pages from
>getting
>frayed?
This significantly alters the aesthetics of the cover, yes? I'd compromise
the frayed edges in most cases. >>
Heh...it does indeed- but I'm usually looking at the spine when it comes to
any display. It's much easier to remove this way, also.
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:59:27 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: more on the Taboo pic
so, I saw the Taboo picture today for the first time, and I personally don't
have much of a problem with it. something I heard today (which is definitely
true) might interest people here: the printing plant which Tzadik uses
refused to assemble these CDs, so they had to be put together by employees of
the label one at a time.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:41:32 -0700
From: "Tom Johnson" <signals2000@home.com>
Subject: Re: Django Eyvind Trane
For Coltrane fans, the only way to go is the Classic Quartet - Complete
Impulse Studio Recordings. I went from owning a single best-of to this
beautiful box set and haven't regretted the expense yet. Find some coupons
for some of the online shops and buy it when they have their 30% off sales,
you just can't beat that deal.
I didn't realize "Live at the Village Vanguard Again" was NOT a part of the
Vanguard boxset. Damn, another thing I have to buy!
Tom
- ----------------------------
"It wasn't a squeak, it was the sound of cheese being cut."
--Bill, on Freaks & Geeks
"I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a
career.
I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or
processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair
anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to
do that."
--Lloyd, from Say Anything
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <kurt_gottschalk@scni.com>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 8:45 AM
Subject: Django Eyvind Trane
>
> Ribot's Django project (which includes Eyvind -- who is male, btw -- in
the
> Grapelli role) has been booked a half-dozen or so times at the Knit. Many,
maybe
> all, of those times, another project was substituted. I'm not sure if it
has
> ever actually been performed.
>
> Margo Red wants Trane recs. Call me a sap, but "A Love Supreme" is really
the
> locus, if not the best. I'd say get that first. "Kulu Se Mama",
"Expression",
> "Interstellar Space" and "Live at the Village Vanguard Again" are my
faves, but
> you'll have to determine if you want to go forward (more free) or backward
(more
> standard) from 1965. If you're looking to spend money, get the compete
Live at
> the Village Vanguard box (which doesn't include the "Again" disc mentioned
> above).
>
> kg
>
>
>
> -
>
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:45:32 -0700
From: "Tom Johnson" <signals2000@home.com>
Subject: Re: more on the Taboo pic
I'm surprised with all this talk about the artwork that no one has pointed
out the facial expression of the little girl on the cover. It's completely
expressionless. Very creepy. Somewhere in the expression of that little
girl is the reason Zorn used it in the first place. That's some powerful
stuff.
Tom
- ----------------------------
"It wasn't a squeak, it was the sound of cheese being cut."
--Bill, on Freaks & Geeks
"I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a
career.
I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or
processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair
anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to
do that."
--Lloyd, from Say Anything
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <JonAbbey2@aol.com>
To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: more on the Taboo pic
> so, I saw the Taboo picture today for the first time, and I personally
don't
> have much of a problem with it. something I heard today (which is
definitely
> true) might interest people here: the printing plant which Tzadik uses
> refused to assemble these CDs, so they had to be put together by employees
of
> the label one at a time.
>
> Jon
> www.erstwhilerecords.com
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:34:00 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: knit classics
someone was asking about knitting factory reissues of recordings from the loft
scene. here's the first batch, according to bruce at dmg. i'm impressed.
32.RASHIED ALI QUINTET - s/t (Knit classics 3021) w/ James Blood
Ulmer, Bob Ralston, Earl Cross, John Dana & Trane's final drummer -
Rashied Ali! '73 - $14.
33.RASHIED ALI & FRANK LOWE - "Duo Exchange" (KC 3020) heavy
sax/drums duo! $14.
34.RASHIED ALI & LEROY JENKINS - Swift are the Winds of Life (KC
3026)Yeah! $14.
35.RASHIED ALI QUARTET - New Directions in Modern Music (KC 3022) w/
Carlos Ward, Fred Simmons, Stafford James & Rashied! More cosmic
blowing!! $14.
36.RASHIED ALI QUARTET/QUINTET - Moon Flight (KC 3023) w/ Jimmy Vass
& Marvin Blackman on saxes, Charles Eubanks on piano & Benny Wilson
on bass;powerful $14.
37.JOE LEE WILSON - What Would it be Without You (KC 3024)
Heart-warming jazz vocalist & old friend of mine, who always touched
his audience deeply with his resonant voice! Sadly, he has nothing
in print, so help yourself!! $14.
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:00:29 -0500
From: Jason Tors <jtors@organic.com>
Subject: brad shepik and the commuters
went to go see [what I now know to be the commuters] last night at
the internet cafe. brad has dropped seido on percussion and added the
bass player from the screaming headless torsos. Mike sarin is totally
opened up to the full perc range, brad is so much better, not to
mention that peter epstein never ceases to amaze me with his playing.
They have a new album out, not yet in stores, it is called the well,
they dropped the commuters as a title, now it is just brad shepik.
The players are brad shepik, peter epstein, skuli, mike sarin, and
seido. I am listening to it right now and it sounds like they dropped
the fusion element of the first album, but it is still not as "in the
tradition" as pachora.
speaking of...
pachora is playing at the den [under two boots pizza on ave a] on saturday.
Brad was telling me there is a heavy balkan thing happening there
every thursday.
I am looking for more of this balkan [middleastern] jazz, I have to
check out paradox trio, but any other suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:41:55 -0500
From: Jason Tors <jtors@organic.com>
Subject: kenny
I have a bet with my roommate as to how old kenny wollesen is. I say
he is younger than 36 and he says that he is 36 or older.
searched all over the web for the answer with no luck.
I have a brew at stake, can someone help me?
- -
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:18:45 -0000
From: "ian r watson" <toshinori@lineone.net>
Subject: Re: brad shepik and the commuters
you may already know it but I have a nice disc under the name
Babkas......"Ants to the moon" songlines SGL 1505-2
according to the sleeve......Briggan Krauss...alto
Aaron Alexander....drums
Brad Schoeppach.....guitar
recorded NYC Feb 1994
> went to go see [what I now know to be the commuters] last night at
> the internet cafe. brad has dropped seido on percussion and added the
> bass player from the screaming headless torsos. Mike sarin is totally
> opened up to the full perc range, brad is so much better, not to
> mention that peter epstein never ceases to amaze me with his playing.
>
> They have a new album out, not yet in stores, it is called the well,
> they dropped the commuters as a title, now it is just brad shepik.
> The players are brad shepik, peter epstein, skuli, mike sarin, and
> seido. I am listening to it right now and it sounds like they dropped
> the fusion element of the first album, but it is still not as "in the
> tradition" as pachora.
>
> speaking of...
>
> pachora is playing at the den [under two boots pizza on ave a] on
saturday.
> Brad was telling me there is a heavy balkan thing happening there
> every thursday.
>
> I am looking for more of this balkan [middleastern] jazz, I have to
> check out paradox trio, but any other suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:35:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Ethan <eclauset@webslingerZ.com>
Subject: zeena parkins info
hello, does anyone have any contact or booking info for zeena parkins?
ethan
http://transmit.org
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:02:47 GMT
From: "chris hanley" <haiu@hotmail.com>
Subject: eBay auctions
Hello,
I have the following CDs up for auction on eBay:
Naked City's "Torture Garden" and "Leng Tch'e" 2cd set on Tzadik
Pharoah Sanders "Pharoah's First" CD (on ESP!)
Ken Vandermark/Joe Morris/Hans Poppel "Like Rays"
"All is Full of Love" by Bjork remixed by Funkstorung
The Carl Stalling Project Vol. 2
Junk Genius S/T CD
Robert Wyatt "Mid Eighties" CD (OOP!)
Arto Lindsay "Hyper Civilizado"
Ornette Coleman and Joachim Kuhn "Colors"
and more jazz, indie rock/punk, electronica, and even a couple
country-western items!
To see the whole list, go to eBay at www.ebay.com, go to their search page,
and enter haiu@hotmail.com under "Seller".
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