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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #851
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Zorn List Digest Friday, February 4 2000 Volume 02 : Number 851
In this issue:
-
Re: Feldman, etc.
Re: Harry Miller set on Ogun!
Grisey "Les Espaces Acoustiques"
Arcana Book
futurist music
Re: Grisey "Les Espaces Acoustiques"
NYC concert announcement - Aki Takahashi
New Zorn article in March Jazz Times
Dama Mahaleo
Re: Arcana Book
Re: futurist music
morton feldman
Re: futurist music
Re: Guy/Surman NYC gig?
RE: futurist music
Re: morton feldman
Zorn in Italy, another cover
OT: h. nitsch, transgression, and the image
OT: h. nitsch, transgression, and the image
Re: Taboo & Exile Imagery
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:20:37 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Feldman, etc.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:45:25 -0500 "Ljova" wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let you know that the S.E.M. Ensemble (cond. Peter Kotik)
> recorded Feldman's "For Samuel Beckett" this past january. I'm not sure if
> this was for archival or commercial purposes, but, I will post to this space
> shall I find out of any release dates.
>
> "For Samuel Beckett" was Feldman's last [chamber] orchestra work. It's
> really beautiful, though somewhat tiring to perform.
> (I suppose I didn't make this clear -- I performed it in concert, and
> participated in the recording.)
And there is one that just got released on CPO:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** - FOR SAMUEL BECKETT: Morton Feldman
1/ For Samuel Beckett (Feldman) 43:17
Kammerensemble Neue Musik Berlin conducted by Roland Kluttig.
1999 - CPO (Germany), 999 647-2 (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:50:27 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: Harry Miller set on Ogun!
In a message dated 2/2/00 4:58:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
proussel@ichips.intel.com writes:
<< Great news for those who love these South Africans (from Verge's
February catalog):
>>
Yeow- what a great suprise!! Is this a sigh that some of those other
neglected Ogun classics may soon see the light of a laser?
=dg=
- -
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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:24:50 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <dan@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Grisey "Les Espaces Acoustiques"
Per the article in the Sunday Times, I'm interested and am looking
for the CD that the article recommends, a recording by the Ensemble
Court-Circuit and the Frankfurt Museum Orch. on Accord (unless
there's a better one...). I've been thwarted by web searches and am
wondering if there are good places in NYC to find these types of
things. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Dan Hewins
- -
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 18:12:20 -0500
From: Richard Ladew <ladewtangclan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Arcana Book
Anyone get the Arcana book that Zorn edited yet? I just got it in the
mail today. The pieces from Ostertag and Oswald are really informative
in regards to sampling. Cant wait to read more!!
R
- --
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www.home.earthlink.net/~ladewtangclan
PCP House Of Coffee: The best in modern, experimental and creative music
WUNH 91.3fm Monday evenings 8-9 p.m.(EST)
Real Audio at www.wunh.unh.edu
- -
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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:14:33 EST
From: Whitejams@aol.com
Subject: futurist music
I'm sure many you are aware of Mike Patton's Pranzo Oltranzista, and it's
inspiration, Marinetti's Futurist Cookbook. My question is this. I am
shooting a short film inspired by the futurists, and really haven't had much
luck finding futurist specific compositions(although I haven't tried too
hard). If anyone could create a list of futurist or futurist inspired music
and send it to me, it would be appreciated. I will even offer a credit in
my film, (its a student film) so don't get too excited. Thanks a thousand
times.
- ------new to the list----ATOM
- -
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:44:35 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Grisey "Les Espaces Acoustiques"
Dan Hewins wrote:
> Per the article in the Sunday Times, I'm interested and am looking
> for the CD that the article recommends, a recording by the Ensemble
> Court-Circuit and the Frankfurt Museum Orch. on Accord (unless
> there's a better one...). I've been thwarted by web searches and am
> wondering if there are good places in NYC to find these types of
> things.
Well, Accord is not an especially obscure label as far as tiny European
classical music labels go - so normally you could most likely find the
disc in question in stock at either of the Tower locations (4th &
Broadway, Lincoln Center). I'd expect, however, that the article
probably prompted several folks to go to the store and buy the one or
two copies they had in stock, so it may be a matter of waiting for the
eventual reorder. Don't be satisfied to just look for a Grisey section
and call it a day if you don't find one - take a look towards the back
of the store in case they have a dumping ground for various contemporary
composers. It's a pretty common practice. The downtown Tower also
maintains a fairly nice endcap dedicated exclusively to new releases of
contemporary composed music - it's in the far back corner next to the
"DJ booth."
Mondo Kim's on St. Mark's Place also has a surprisingly good selection
of modern composed music. And if Other Music carries it, I'm sure Tom
Pratt could let you know.
Sorry for wasting the bandwidth of those not in New York. (It's about
to happen again in a moment, so forgive me in advance.)
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:50:58 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: NYC concert announcement - Aki Takahashi
New York Zornithologists:
Pianist Aki Takahashi will be giving a recital on Thursday, March 9 at 8
p.m. at the Japan Society, 333 East 47th St. Tickets are $20 ($16 for
Japan Society members). The program will include a premiere of a new
piece by Somei Satoh, plus works by Cage, Peter Garland, Akemi Naito and
Iannis Xenakis. Also promised are at least two of the "Hyper Beatles"
selections of which we've spoken just lately, by Christian Wolff and
Ryuichi Sakamoto. For more information, call 212-832-1155. I've never
been to anything at the Japan Society, so I can't speak to how limited
the tickets are. Also, I've got not a damn thing to do with this
concert... I just got a brochure in the mail today, is all.
Again, my apologies to non-New Yorkers for the waste of space...
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 22:00:11 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: New Zorn article in March Jazz Times
Zornies here and abroad:
The March 2000 issue of Jazz Times features a dual Wynton Marsalis /
John Zorn cover (surely a first and presumably a last) and interesting
and provocative interviews with both of them. The interview was
originally commissioned for a Japanese publication and subsequently
bought by Jazz Times, as I understand it. I don't know that Zorn
actually says anything new here, at least for those of us who've
followed Zorn's career and have read most of what's come before
(although it is revealed that he's a fan of a certain Wynton trumpet
solo on Jeff "Tain" Watts's 'Citizen Tain' CD of last year... it IS a
monstrous solo if it's the one I think he means...). It's less
philosophical than the Jazziz piece and less focused on quirks of
personality than was the New Yorker piece. But it's a good read and an
interesting restatement of Zorn's continued mission, his acceptance of
his outsider status, and his deep-seated cynicism towards the corporate
world.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 22:10:11 -0500
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Dama Mahaleo
Does anyone know of other releases by this singer/guitarist from
Madagascar (and, imho, possessor of the lovliest male set of pipes this
side of Veloso) aside from "Melodies de Madagascar" (on Playa Sound),
his duo with D'Gary on Shanachie and his various appearances throughout
the Kaiser/Lindlay produced series, also on Shanachie? Thanks,
Brian Olewnick
NP: Malcolm Dalglish/Grey Larsen, "Banish Misfortune"
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:39:54 EST
From: Eisenbeil@aol.com
Subject: Re: Arcana Book
The Zorn edited Arcana book is a rare treat. Completely unprecedented. It
covers a wide scope of insight from so many interesting people.
Regards,
Bruce Eisenbeil
www.eisenbeil.com
In a message dated 2/3/00 6:18:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ladewtangclan@earthlink.net writes:
<< Anyone get the Arcana book that Zorn edited yet? I just got it in the
mail today. The pieces from Ostertag and Oswald are really informative
in regards to sampling. Cant wait to read more!!
R >>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:51:50 -0500 (EST)
From: ctonelli@trentu.ca
Subject: Re: futurist music
There's a disk out called 'Futurism and Dada' (there's more to it but I
can't recall - it should be easy to find on a web search). It's got the
only recordings of Russolo's Intonarumori conducted by his brother Antonio
Russolo. It also has vocal pieces by F.T. Marinetti himself. Besides Luigi
Russolo scores which can be found with a websearch I don't think there's
much else out there. The CD above also has a reconstruction attempt of the
Intonarumori and a guess at Russolo's score.
Good luck,
Chris Tonelli
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 Whitejams@aol.com wrote:
> I'm sure many you are aware of Mike Patton's Pranzo Oltranzista, and it's
> inspiration, Marinetti's Futurist Cookbook. My question is this. I am
> shooting a short film inspired by the futurists, and really haven't had much
> luck finding futurist specific compositions(although I haven't tried too
> hard). If anyone could create a list of futurist or futurist inspired music
> and send it to me, it would be appreciated. I will even offer a credit in
> my film, (its a student film) so don't get too excited. Thanks a thousand
> times.
>
> ------new to the list----ATOM
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 09:24:33 EST
From: "Alan Kayser" <alankayser@hotmail.com>
Subject: morton feldman
Is anyone familiar with John Tilbury's 3CD set of Feldman's piano music on
the Matchless label? I am quite curious about this set, especially due to
the nature of Tilbury's work within AMM.
Alan E. Kayser
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:00:12 -0800
From: "s~Z" <keithmar@jetlink.net>
Subject: Re: futurist music
"Futurism and Dada Reviewed" SUBCD 012-19 price 800 BeF
Les Editions Sub Rosa, PO box 808, CM1000, Brussels, Belgium.
I believe it is out of print.
http://www.subrosa.be/
- -
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Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:29:47 -0500
From: eric ong <eso200@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Guy/Surman NYC gig?
Hello,
There will be performances of selections from In Darkness Let Me Dwell -
(just out in the US on February 1st) in Washington and in New York:
John Dowland / IN DARKNESS LET ME DWELL
Artists: John Potter, tenor; Stephen Stubbs, lute; John Surman, soprano
saxophone and Bass clarinet; Maya Homburger, Baroque violin; Barry Guy,
double-bass
Washington:
Friday February 11, 2000 at 8:00 PM
Saint Columba's Episcopal Church
4201 Albemarle St. NW (1 block from the Tenley AU metro stop)
$15.00 suggested donation, $5.00 students
New York:
Saturday February 12, 2000 at 7:30 pm
Cathedral of St. John the Divine
1047 Amsterdam Ave at 112th St.
tickets $20.00 at box office or call City Tix 212 581-1212 ($4 surcharge)
I'll most likely be at the NYC show, so if any of you are going, let me
know because I'd like to say hello.
- -eric.
At 09:23 PM 2/2/00 EST, you wrote:
>anyone know what this is exactly or where it's going to take place?
>
>from the Euro Free Improv site:
>
>February 12th Dowland Project in New York- John Potter - tenor, John
Surman -
>clarin./sax, Barry Guy - bass, Stephen Stubbs -lute, Maya Homburger - violin
>
>thanks,
>Jon
>www.erstwhilerecords.com
>
>-
>
>
>
- -
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:43:19 -0500
From: "Vanheumen, Robert" <rvanheumen@issgroup.net>
Subject: RE: futurist music
hi.
this is interesting.
i'm an electronic/avantgarde musician, trying to get his work spread all
over the world.
my work is electronic in basis, with sound effects and acoustic instruments
(trumpet, voice) added. some of it you could describe as sound track.
i would be glad to look into composing some music for the film you're
making.
it's a little off-topic for the list, but i thought what the #$^ i just
advertise a little..
robert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Whitejams@aol.com [SMTP:Whitejams@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:15 PM
> To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: futurist music
>
> I'm sure many you are aware of Mike Patton's Pranzo Oltranzista, and it's
> inspiration, Marinetti's Futurist Cookbook. My question is this. I am
> shooting a short film inspired by the futurists, and really haven't had
> much
> luck finding futurist specific compositions(although I haven't tried too
> hard). If anyone could create a list of futurist or futurist inspired
> music
> and send it to me, it would be appreciated. I will even offer a credit in
>
> my film, (its a student film) so don't get too excited. Thanks a thousand
>
> times.
>
> ------new to the list----ATOM
>
> -
- -
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:46:34 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: morton feldman
In a message dated 2/4/00 9:25:24 AM, alankayser@hotmail.com writes:
<< Is anyone familiar with John Tilbury's 3CD set of Feldman's piano music on
the Matchless label? >>
It's actually 4 CDs, and it's on LondonHall, although it is being distributed
by Matchless. it's only been out for a month or two, and it hasn't made it to
any of the normal US distributors yet, despite my pleas with the good folks
at Other Music and Downtown Music Gallery. if you want to order one directly,
check out http://www.cnvill.demon.co.uk/mfnotice.htm. it's 38 pounds, or
about 60 bucks.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:38:38 +0100
From: "Francesco Martinelli" <fmartinelli@tin.it>
Subject: Zorn in Italy, another cover
I'll be reviewing the Bergamo Festival where Zorn plays for the italian
monthly Musica Jazz. They'd like to dedicate the cover to him with a posed
portrait against one old town background, as they ofetn do in such
occasions. Anyone can help me to make sure he will accept a photo session?
Or sure the he will not?
thank to anyone that can help......
_________________
Francesco Martinelli
Lungarno Mediceo 10
56127 PISA ITALY
fmartinelli@tin.it
- -
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Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:04:11 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: OT: h. nitsch, transgression, and the image
Not much ZOrn connection here, aside from---I think---a name-check in the
GRAND GUIGNOL notes. This might be a friendly introduction to a
"transgressive" visual artist who's been at it for quite a bit longer than
I've been around: visual artist and avant-garde shaman (?!) Hermann Nitsch.
I thought it might be a nice tidbit, since
we've been discussing this vis-a-vis TABOO AND EXILE.
The GETIT.COm article contains a link to Nitsch's own website.
http://ss.gettingit.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=FutureTense/Demos/GI/Templates/Article_View&parm1=A2008-1999Nov22&topframe=true
The other point is that Nitsch is about to one-up Merzbow: an 80-CD box set,
apparently to be released by the Cortical Foundation in 2000. (No info, but
perhaps it's DVD?)
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Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:04:11 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: OT: h. nitsch, transgression, and the image
Not much ZOrn connection here, aside from---I think---a name-check in the
GRAND GUIGNOL notes. This might be a friendly introduction to a
"transgressive" visual artist who's been at it for quite a bit longer than
I've been around: visual artist and avant-garde shaman (?!) Hermann Nitsch.
I thought it might be a nice tidbit, since
we've been discussing this vis-a-vis TABOO AND EXILE.
The GETIT.COm article contains a link to Nitsch's own website.
http://ss.gettingit.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=FutureTense/Demos/GI/Templates/Article_View&parm1=A2008-1999Nov22&topframe=true
The other point is that Nitsch is about to one-up Merzbow: an 80-CD box set,
apparently to be released by the Cortical Foundation in 2000. (No info, but
perhaps it's DVD?)
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Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 21:04:05 GMT
From: "Bill Ashline" <bashline@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Taboo & Exile Imagery
Not to rejuvenate an old and tired thread, but if you are trying to come to
grips with the aesthetics/ethics behind Zorn's use of images of eroticism
and violence, and you haven't bothered to read Georges Bataille or Maurice
Blanchot, you are attempting the intellectual equivalent of running a
marathon with your legs dismembered. You simply don't have a clue, period.
You must as well read Gilles Deleuze's account of Leopold von Sacher-Masoch
entitled "Coldness and Cruelty" where he makes an important distinction
between "pornography" (the erotic imbued with instrumental rationality
{Bataille's Profane}) and "pornology" (transgression of a non-instrumental
order). Responses of nervous anxiety at the possibility of perverse desire
within an admired artist is the most banal and predictable that one can
imagine. You have to get a lot deeper than this.
The packaging that conceals the "secret" suggests two things: 1) the power
of self-censorship in the milieu of vilificating the "outside." 2) the
careful selection of an audience capable of understanding and the refusal of
another that is incapable
BTW--this is nothing like "shock" since the "dirty, little secret" refuses
to be displayed. The subtitle "music for children vol 2" suggests an
ambivalent meaning regarding maturation--innocence is the point of
unmediated access to the truth of eroticism whereas "adult understanding" is
"childish" in its profanation by accusation. The image is sacred (by its
power to induce); our reactions are profane (the reduction of meaning to
"use-value" and "common sense" i.e. "culture").
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