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Zorn List Digest       Monday, December 13 1999       Volume 02 : Number 813



In this issue:
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       Fw: Ventura CA Music
       Zorn "game piece" performance update
       Gismonti
       Re: Flux Quartet: The Dead Man & Sonic Youth
       Brotzmann concert in Victoriaville
       Sharing Zorn related MP3's
       Metal Machine Music
       Re: Brotzmann concert in Victoriaville
       Boredoms Deification
       Re: Boredoms Deification
       Poet On Trial (NO ZORN CONTENT)
       Re: Boredoms Deification
       Downtown Lullabye
       Speaking of...
       RE: Gismonti/Baptista
       Re: RE: Gismonti/Baptista
       O.T. : Paul Bley

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:10:27 -0800
From: "s~Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: Ventura CA Music

Contents:
*Nels Cline and Scarnella THIS FRIDAY at City Hall
*Kaiser Trio (with Liebig and Aplanalp) AND Brad Dutz Obliteration Quartet
at Art City
*Golia Large Ensemble in Ventura


**********************
Friday, December 10
Ventura City Hall 8 pm
501 Poli Street, Downtown Ventura
Admission: $7
No advance ticket sales. Tickets at the door only
First Set: Nels Cline Solo
Second Set: Scarnella

Scarnella is: Nels Cline, electric guitar
Carla Bozulich, bass, guitar, sampling keyboard, voice
Look to Scarnella for everything from intimate ballads to extended moments
of improvised mayhem.
Scarnella has been nominated for "Best Experimental Artist" in the New
Times.
Nels Cline: Outstanding Jazz Artist of 1999, California Music Awards; Best
New Genre, LA Weekly Music Awards; Nominated for Best Musician, New Times

**********************
Saturday, December 18, 8 pm
Art City II, Ventura, CA
Admission: $5
Jeff Kaiser Trio and Brad Dutz's Obliteration Quartet
Jeff Kaiser Trio is: Jeff Kaiser, trumpet and electronics; Woody Aplanalp,
guitars; Steuart Liebig, basses
Brad Dutz's Obliteration Quartet: four percussionists playing the charts of
Brad Dutz on found objects...
More to come...

**********************
pfMENTUM is very excited to announce:
Saturday, January 29, 8 pm
Ventura High School Auditorium, Ventura, CA
Admission: $10; children under 12, $5
The Vinny Golia Large Ensemble
featuring an amazing cast of 30 musicians
More to come...

**********************
Thanks,

Keith and Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.jetlink.net/~pfmentum




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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:04:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Zorn "game piece" performance update

Thanks everyone for your help, but Ijust recieved an E-mail from Mr.
Friedlander, and he kindly gave me all the details of the performance.  It is
actually going to be on Saturday the 11th.  It is a performance of Zorn's
pre-Cobra "game piece", entitled "Darts".  There will be two performances at
8 and 10.  The musicians include Friedlander, Marc Ribot, Zorn, Jim Pugliese,
and Jim Staley.  The dancers include Marlon Barrios, Kun Yin Lin, Tasha
Taylor, and two others which were not mentioned.  The piece is scored for 5
musicians and 5 dancers as well as an announcer, who I assume will be
choreographer Lynn Shapiro.  The Washington Square Church is located on 135
W. 4th St.  Hope to see you all there!

Evan

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:18:32 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Gismonti

Regarding Egberto's Carmo label: I've heard that ECM distributes them
in Europe (but I've also been told that someone is buying ECM from
Polydor, which is why I can't find any ECM Gismonti for Christmas
presents -- any intelligence on this).

My favorite Carmo''s are Alma (solo piano) and Fiexe de Luz (fusion
band incl. electric guitar)

In any event, Gismonti has a home page last time I checked -- and he
even responded twice to my email in his delightful broken English.

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:41:44 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Flux Quartet: The Dead Man & Sonic Youth

Jeni Dahmus wrote:

> The program notes neglected to mention that The Dead Man was intended as
> a soundtrack to S/M scenes...

Out of curiosity, from whence did you glean this particular statement?  I
don't dispute what you're, but it was my understanding, having heard a few
performances of "The Dead Man" during its first year of existence, that it
was a tribute to the late Robert Mapplethorpe, but nothing more explicit
than that was stated at the time.  I suppose that a tribute to that
particular artist could be considered to have been inspired by S/M scenes,
but there was so much more to Mapplethorpe than that...  Tell me more.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - 'You Only Live Twice' (James Bond flick...)


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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:34:29 EST
From: "Mathieu Belanger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Brotzmann concert in Victoriaville

Hello,

A while ago, some of you asked if Radio-Canada would ever broadcast the
concert the Peter Brotzmann Tentet gave in Victoriaville in May. Well,
according to the web page of "Le Navire Night" (http://radio-cananda.ca
/radio/navire/calendrier.html), it will be broadcast on February 20th.
They don't mention if this will be the complete show...

On the page, they also list other concerts of the FIMAV that will be
broadcast in a near future.

Hope this helps,

Mathieu Belanger

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:26:21 +0100
From: "Rob Allaert" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sharing Zorn related MP3's

JazZorns,

Maybe some of you have heard about http://www.napster.com. This program
enables users to connect with other users' local mp3 directories (from
computer to computer in other words). Plus there's the possibility to chat.
I believe this is a wonderful tool for Zornlisters. As for me, I'm always
curious to hear one or two tracks from, let's say, Taboo and Exile, before I
buy the CD. Well, it is now possible for all listers to share one or two
tracks from their new CD's so others can find out whether they like it too
without having to upload them to a server first. I'm not talking about full
albums, just one or two tracks per album. True music lovers still buy albums
:-)

As long as the group "Avant Garde" isn't available with Napster, I'd suggest
we populate the "Jazz" group. You will be asked to choose a user name. Pick
something like "zorn_025". This will help identifying the zornlisters! Don't
worry if all your MP3's aren't AG, just make sure you have something that
could interest most of us ;-) Oh yeah, since all Napster's servers aren't
fully connected, it is possible that users who are both connected to Napster
at the same time will not be able to see each other. They're working on
that.

To give all members of this list an idea of how many people are joining
Napster, please email me privately announcing you joined napster. I will
post the results later.

To me the best part of the Zorn list is to get to know more about new
releases. That's why I urge people to benefit from this new tool. Looking
forward to seeing soms Zorn related music on this overly poppy
www.napster.com

Join 'em!

Rob, Belgium.


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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:26:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Metal Machine Music

The story that i heard is that this was a
contract-breaker for Lou Reed.  He owed whatever label
two LPs, and that's what he produced.

I don't know that he put a lot of work into it.
But I think that each channel (left/right) is a
totally different track.  Also, I thought each side
ended in a skip track.  Anyone know?

Anyway, I'm amazed that it was reissued, Lou Reed or
not.

Peter
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:32:31 -0500
From: "Rick Lopez" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Brotzmann concert in Victoriaville

>Hello,
>
>"Le Navire Night"
>(http://radio-cananda.ca/radio/navire/calendrier.html)

Of course Cananda was just annexed by Quebec, and the new web-site addy has
become:
http://radio-canada.ca/radio/navire/calendrier.html


Marilyn Crispell, Susie Ibarra, William Parker, Sam Rivers, Matthew Shipp,
David S. Ware, and Reggie Workman Discographies--Samuel Beckett
Eulogy--Baseball & the 10,000 Things--Time Stops--LOVETORN--HARD BOIL--etc.,
 at: http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k

UPDATE August 20, 1999:
vids, a few CDs, baseball books, a few Cadence back issues, a few more
CDs...
***Very Various For Sale:
***http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/4SALE.html

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Date: 12 Dec 1999 03:53:56 PST
From: [e-mail] (Ryan J. McKay)
Subject: Boredoms Deification

- --- You wrote:
I lost track of what the Boredoms did recently and I was wondering=20
what people think of SUPER AR, compared to their early recordings.=20
- --- end of quote ---

Super AE (at least that's what my special edition Japanese weirdo =
green slime version says) is the best Boredoms recording yet (well, =
Super-Roots 8 is pretty amazing too, and WOW2 certainly has its =
moments).  They are headed in a more "psychedelic" direction, with =
the use of cyclical song structure, mantra like chanting, and =
tribal 3-drummer action.  Don't let this fool you.  They are =
perhaps the most explosive group out there that you can see live =
(If you get the chance do so at all costs).  Really, this is one of =
the greatest albums I've heard all decade at least.  It completely =
engulfed me, and I have a feeling it may do the same for you.  Buy =
it, put it in your stereo (turn it all the way up), barracade =
yourself in your room and press play.  You'll know what to get =
everyone for Christmas.    =20

- ---You wrote:
the best record they've done in this style so far, I think, is the=20
just-released Vision/Creation/New Sun, currently available in an =
obscenely=20
expensive ($90-95) box, complete with a T-shirt (size M), a bonus =
CD of=20
mostly live material, and a chirping box.=20
- ---end of quote---

Where is this available at?  I want it. =20

Thanks, and sorry if I'm being obnoxious but the Boredoms are now =
(at least temporarily) up there with the Beatles for me :-). =20

- --ryan

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:01:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Boredoms Deification

In a message dated 12/12/99 6:56:14 AM, [e-mail]
writes:

<< ---You wrote:

the best record they've done in this style so far, I think, is the

just-released Vision/Creation/New Sun, currently available in an obscenely

expensive ($90-95) box, complete with a T-shirt (size M), a bonus CD of

mostly live material, and a chirping box.

- ---end of quote---


Where is this available at?  I want it.  >>

Forced Exposure had some, although not too many, a week or so ago, so try
them at www.fe.org. if not, I bet Other Music still has some
(www.othermusic.com).

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:44:44 +0100
From: "john rust" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Poet On Trial (NO ZORN CONTENT)

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Hallo all,

this message has nothing to do with music. Posting it I wanted to reach =
as
many people as possible and let them know about the absurd and painful=20
story taking place in Moscow these days.=20

Probably few of you have ever heard the name of russian poet Alina
Vitukhnovskaya who is now again on trial, charged with - ridiculous in =
her case -
drug posession for the third time in her life. The proccess is =
unbelievable in its stupidity,=20
reminding the wildest times of KGB vs Dissidents .
As a result of first two trials Alina has already spent 1,5 years in =
jail.=20
She is celebrated as the most gifted russian lady-poet of our time,=20
"....the talent we have been waiting for for the past 15 years, the poet =
who stands out among all her contemporaries" (K. Kedrov)=20

Flatblack Lounge has just published my material on the case - it can be =
found at http://www.flatblack.net/lapolitique.html=20

The influence of the western world in the affairs of Russia is still =
sufficient. If you can spread the news on Alina around the world - =
sending it to another people/lists, mentioning it wherever you can, etc. =
- - it would be definitely a help.

Thank you.

John Rust








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still=20
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sending it to=20
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:03:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Boredoms Deification

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/12/99 6:56:14 AM,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << ---You wrote:
>
> the best record they've done in this style so far, I
> think, is the just-released Vision/Creation/New Sun,
> currently available in an obscenely expensive ($90-
> 95) box, complete with a T-shirt (size M), a bonus
> CD of mostly live material, and a chirping box.
>
> ---end of quote---
>
>
> Where is this available at?  I want it.  >>
>
> Forced Exposure had some, although not too many, a
> week or so ago, so try them at www.fe.org. if not, I
> bet Other Music still has some (www.othermusic.com).

Other Music does indeed have some.

        -Tom Pratt
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:25:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Theo Klaase <[e-mail]>
Subject: Downtown Lullabye

    Why is it I can't find this album anywhere?
Anyone have any suggestions.  Email me privately, Thanks...

=====
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:42:56 -0800
From: "s~Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speaking of...

http://www.calendarlive.com/calendarlive/suncal/19991212/t000113103.html


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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:16:35 -0200
From: "Hugo Linares" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Gismonti/Baptista

>
>My favorite Carmo''s are Alma (solo piano)

Well, you're right, "Alma" is an outstanding recording.

and Fiexe de Luz (fusion
>band incl. electric guitar)

Could you please give me more details. You can do it privately if considered
non-Zorn topic.


>
>In any event, Gismonti has a home page last time I checked -- and he
>even responded twice to my email in his delightful broken English.
>


You're very kind with Egberto's English, aren't you?
My English teacher doesn't feel the same as you, when I make mistakes close
to broken English...

Anyway, regarding Brazilian musicians, it's worth checking out Viraloucos'
Cyro Baptista on Avant, with Greg Cohen, Marc Ribot, Chango Spassiuk, Romero
Lubambo and Nana Vasconcelos (who also conducts the Children's Choir in the
amazing "Sapo Cururu").
Last but not least, you also have Zorn blowing in Brazilian grooves.
Unique!

Later,


Hugo Linares




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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:13:54 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: RE: Gismonti/Baptista

Hola Hugo,

Thanks for the adviso on Viraloucos -- I've put it en la cima de mi
lista.

Gismonti is one of my very favorites, and I've often wondered why he
doesn't get more media attention. I've seen him just once live, about
12 years ago in duets with Carneiro and he was electrifying, really
mindblowing. One of the best shows I've ever seen.

"Feixe de Luz (Todo comeco e involuntario)" was recorded in 1987 or
1988, right after his mother died. It was inspired by her death and is
rich with childhood memories (they emerge through the moods and the
bright, simple melodies) and a feeling of passages. There are 16 songs
listed (40 minutes of music), but if I remember correctly they mostly
segue into one another without breaks -- rather like an extended suite.
The band is called Academia de Dancas but is bigger and with a
different attitude (and personnel) than the Academia de Dancas heard on
1980's ECM "Sanfona":
Robertinho Silva (drums and percussion)
Jaquinho Morelenbaum (cello)
Mingo (zabumba & percussion)
Nivaldo Ornelas (soprano sax)
Zeca Assumpcao (bass)
Andre Geraissati (electric guitar)
Paulo Sergio (clarinet)
Paulo Moura (alto sax)
Luis Alves (bass)
Alexandre & Bianco (laughing) (I think these are his kids)
and Egberto on Piano, voz and synthesizers.

Ciao,
Martin




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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:19:16 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: O.T. : Paul Bley

We've been singing the praises of the Jimmy Giuffre "60's" 3, and my
listening to FREE FALL especially has brought me back to Paul Bley, this man
I know so little---but what a revelation, what a beautiful, humorous,
personal style: what a variation on nobody this guy is!  My listening has
only included his early work with the JG3, the guest spots on Franz
Koglmann's neat A WHITE LINE (unfortunate liner notes, those), and the
beautiful TIME WILL TELL (w/ Barre Phillips and Evan Parker, highly
recommended), as well as a couple nice solos on the Paul Haines double album
DARN IT!

I'd like to open the floor briefly for recommendations for good things to
look out for, simply because I think anyone on the list who hasn't dug Bley
yet, should.  And I'd like to listen to more of his stuff as well, of
course.

Cheers, and thanks,

Scott

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