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Zorn List Digest       Monday, October 18 1999       Volume 02 : Number 776



In this issue:
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       oh yeah i should tell u where its posted
       Robert Black at Roulette
       Loren mazzacane connors question
       Re: Loren mazzacane connors question
       Re: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted
       NYC CREATIVE MUSIC CONCERT
       Cobra in Chicago!
       Re: Loren mazzacane connors question
       Re: Loren mazzacane connors question
       Kol Nidre
       Re: RUINS in SF this Sunday!
       Interactive computer music in RealAudio
       Re: free grass
       Re: questions (T:un[k] Systems)
       sheet music

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:51:14 -0700
From: "wetboy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted

u c? the yankees get pummelled and i lose all sense of reality. the dave
douglas quartet mp3s were posted in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.bootlegs

whoops


"and you, young skywalker. we will watch your career with great interest."

criterion ld/dvd info:
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/vine/9374


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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:49:23 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Robert Black at Roulette

The several spheres of the NYC music avant garde often seem to be
mutually exclusive. The Bang on a Can crowd, perhaps more representative
of the music school view of things, rarely interacts with the Zornian
downtown bunch. Their marathon extends a few feelers in that direction
(a nominal avant jazz act or two every year) but, to the average concert
goer, they appear to inhabit separate worlds. In fact, as an audience
member, I rarely see the same faces at both types of events. Does BOAC
produce a lot of academic crap? Sure, just like everyone else; but there
are jewels to be discovered.

Roulette, the superb, long-standing performance space run by trombonist
Jim Staley, is the rare venue that brings both strains (and many others)
together (Their board of directors includes Alvin Lucier, George Lewis,
William Parker, David Weinstein and Zorn). Last evening, Robert Black,
the bassist for the BOAC ensemble, gave a superb solo recital.

Highlights: Christian Wolff's 'Look She Said', a 20 minute suite in five
sections where Wolff gets _this_ close to traditional melodies and
rhythms before veering away into wistful asides, with poignant/humorous
vocalizations from the bassist.

Two hilarious songs by ex-pat David Jaggard, 'I Had a Dog' and 'Stay
Where Yer Born' combining down to earth, very funny lyrics with virtuoso
playing to an astonishing degree. Anyone know this guy's other work?

James Tenney's 'Beast', a postcard composition (one of a number of
pieces written out on postcards and mailed to perfomers), an amazing
exporation of the oscillations within a single, deep, bowed chord. I was
absolutely baffled how Black was producing the variation in oscillating
rhythms; I couldn't discern any related movement in either left hand or
bow. A very beautiful, mysterious work (audience member Mark Helias was
visibly wowed).

The evening ended with a performance of Arnold Dreyblatt's 'Nodal
Excitations' on an upright bass strung with piano wire. The sounds
produced ranged from thin and grating to rich and vibrant, especially
when played with open strings, allowing an enormous range of harmonic
activity within a furiously rhythmic context.

Check out Mr. Black if you have the chance.

Brian Olewnick

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:36:06 +0200
From: "Stefan Verstraeten" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Loren mazzacane connors question

Hi

I hope that someone on this list can help me out with the following
question:
I recently spotted on a list three new cds by loren mazzacane:

- -airs
- -the dagget year 1978-1980
- -unaccompanied accoustic

does someone on this list know if these are new albums or even give a brief
description

Best wishes

Stefan Verstraeten

[e-mail]

np AUBE - Shade away..... never imagined that the sound of glass would be
that subtle


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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:08:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Loren mazzacane connors question

In a message dated 10/17/99 3:31:28 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I recently spotted on a list three new cds by loren mazzacane:


- -airs

- -the dagget year 1978-1980

- -unaccompanied accoustic


does someone on this list know if these are new albums or even give a brief

description >>

Airs (Road Cone) is a new recording, Loren's latest in a long line of solo
suites. I've heard it twice, and I don't think too much of it. it's so
subdued that I feel like the life has been squeezed out of it, and I find it
kind of boring, a word that's never crossed my mind in describing Loren in
any other context.

the other two are the same thing, the 4 CD box set just released by Thurston
Moore's Ecstatic Peace label. it's a reissue of the nine acoustic records
that Loren pressed himself in 1979 and 1980. he never sold any, sent some to
radio stations, and ended up throwing away most of them because they were
just taking up too much space. I just bought this about an hour ago, so I
can't comment on the music yet.

Haunted House played the best set I've seen them do yet last night, in
between solo Milford Graves and the No Neck Blues Band, who were pretty good
despite only having six of their nine members present.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:55:46 -0500
From: Diego Gruber <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted

I don't have access to newsgroups so if someone is willing to send me
these mp3s (or at least one or two) by mail (to [e-mail]),
or post them on a website, i'd greatly appreciate it. if you're willing
to send them by mail please contact me first (maybe too many generous
ppl would send me Mbs of info twice or more, just to avoid that).

Thanks,

D

wetboy wrote:
>
> u c? the yankees get pummelled and i lose all sense of reality. the dave
> douglas quartet mp3s were posted in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.bootlegs
>
> whoops
>
> "and you, young skywalker. we will watch your career with great interest."
>
> criterion ld/dvd info:
> http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/vine/9374
>
> -



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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:44:28 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: NYC CREATIVE MUSIC CONCERT

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:04:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Cobra in Chicago!

On Sunday (10/24/99)  a group of students at DePaul's School of Music will be
playing the famous Zorn game piece Cobra.   Fred Lomberg-Holm will be playing
and possibly Ken Vandermark (if he is in town).  The concert is free and all
are welcome to come.  The conert is in the Music Builing at DePaul's Lincoln
Park Campus located on the corner of Belmont and Halsted.  You don't need to
obey the sign about facilty parking only since it is a weekend.  Hope you
enjoy.


                                            Aaron Solomon

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Loren mazzacane connors question

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Airs (Road Cone) is a new recording, Loren's latest
> in a long line of solo
> suites. I've heard it twice, and I don't think too
> much of it. it's so
> subdued that I feel like the life has been squeezed
> out of it, and I find it
> kind of boring, a word that's never crossed my mind
> in describing Loren in
> any other context.

I've yet to give this one a really close listen, but
it's definitely clean and reserved. For what it's
worth, Loren says it's his favorite of all his
recordings.

> the other two are the same thing, the 4 CD box set
> just released by Thurston
> Moore's Ecstatic Peace label. it's a reissue of the
> nine acoustic records
> that Loren pressed himself in 1979 and 1980. he
> never sold any, sent some to
> radio stations, and ended up throwing away most of
> them because they were
> just taking up too much space. I just bought this
> about an hour ago, so I
> can't comment on the music yet.

I listened to all of the first disc this morning and
was pretty blown away. It's really sparse and totally
skewed folk/blues/improv stuff that still sounds like
Loren, but it's just *alien* to hear him on acoustic
and so early in his career. I think fans of John
Fahey, Joseph Spence or even Derek Bailey would really
get a lot out of this music. Again, I've only heard
the first disc, and Loren told me today that the third
and fourth ones are the *really* crazed and jagged
ones! I'm pretty excited about this set. Amazing
stuff, I think.

There's also another MazzaCane disc compiling his
early '80s collaborations with a female folk singer. I
can't remember the details, so someone else will have
to provide the info.

      -Tom Pratt

listening to: Lowell Davidson Trio - s/t (ESP)

=====

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:35:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Loren mazzacane connors question

In a message dated 10/18/99 12:15:52 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< There's also another MazzaCane disc compiling his
early '80s collaborations with a female folk singer. I
can't remember the details, so someone else will have
to provide the info. >>

and shockingly, that someone is me. the CD is called Kath Bloom/Loren
Mazzacane-1981-1984 (Megalon), and it's from just after his solo acoustic
work on the box set. it's a compilation from 5 LPs that Loren released on his
own St. Joan label in editions of 200. again, I haven't heard it yet, so I
can't comment on the music.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:32:09 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Kol Nidre

Can anyone kindly give me a time reading on the length of "Kol Nidre" on
Zorn=B4s _String Quartets_ CD? Thanks in advance, Stephen




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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: sonny shine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RUINS in SF this Sunday!

oh man!! i SO wanted to go to that. but me. i'm in
wisconsin. and i've got school and work. SUX!

now all the californians are gonna rant and rave about
how kool it was, and i will kick myself for living in
wisconsin and having responsibilities.

sonny.

- --- Ben Wallace <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2nd JAPANESE NEW MUSIC FESTIVAL
>
> The Japanese New Music Festival is back from its
> European Tour
> in '97 to bring an even more powerful performance.
> The three
> musicians will now perform in an overwhelming five
> different
> projects.
>
> Sunday, October 17, 1999, 9 pm
> $7 cover, all ages
> Club Cocodrie
> 1024 Kearny St (near Broadway)
> San Francisco, CA 94133
> [phone]
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:08:14 -0500
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Interactive computer music in RealAudio

Hi,

I thought readers of this list might be interested in this week's Mappings,
which presents interactive computer music by composers Martin Bartlett,
David Behrman, Chris Brown, Luc Houtkamp, and George Lewis; with
performances by these composers as well as trumpeters Rhys Chatham & Ben
Neill, percussionist Ikue Mori, saxophonist Evan Parker, and cellist
Francis-Marie Uitti.

The show is available on demand all week at
<http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/index.htm>

Unfortunately, the notes for the program have not been posted correctly as
of this e-mail.  Since I've moved I've had trouble with the FTP address,
and the person who runs the station hasn't responded to my e-mail yet.  If
you have questions, and can't wait for the notes to be corrected, please
get in touch with me at the e-address below. (The show to which the
incorrect notes refer is the show available through the archive link on the
page above).

Bests,

Herb


Herb Levy
NEW MAILING ADDRESS:  P O Box 9369  Forth Wort, TX  76147
NEW PHONE: [phone]
same old e-mail: [e-mail]



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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:21:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: free grass

In a message [e-mail] writes:
>I sightly remember a one-shot CD by a group called "Psychograss" that had
>Darryl Anger (sp?) and others, possibly Trischka (sounds like something he'd
>be involved in)- supposedly a bluegrass band doing Hendrix, Blue Cheer, and
>other 60's heavies.  I looked for this in vain- never came across it.

That band made two recordings. The first one came out in 1993 on (believe it
or not) Windham Hill, which already had a track record with Darol Anger and
Mike Marshall, who were the core members of the band. Trischka guested on a
couple of tracks. The album is OK, not great, a little too laid back,
especially given the group's name. The second Psychograss album is "Like
Minds" which came out in 1996 on Sugar Hill. This is a much stronger album,
and has a slightly revamped line-up of Anger/Marshall plus Trischka
(throughout) and David Grier, a pretty amazing guitarist, and Todd Phillips
(who was also on the first one) on bass. This is the recording to get.

>Nice to see some bluegrass chatter here, as un-Zornlike as it may be.  I've
>always considered bluegrass musicians to be among the best musicians around.

Couldn't agree more, on both points. And the connection to Zorn can be made
easily--Eugene Chadbourne has recorded with Trischka.

>Anybody heard the Czech bluegrass band Bruha Trava? (sp?, again...)
>Supposedly this genre has a _huge_ following in that country-
>Czechnya/Slovenya, to be proper...Amazing to see how this form of music has a
>worldwide following.

Druha Trava (translation--"Second Grass") is lead by Robert Krestan, a
revered, Bob Dylan-like figure in the Czech Republic. Excellent band, but
only the most famous (and they are huge in their homeland) of a surprisingly
large contingent of bluegrass and newgrass bands from Eastern Europe and,
particularly, the former Czechoslovakia. Another one in particular to keep an
eye out for is a guy named Jiri Plocek, whose current group, Teagrass, blends
Eastern European folk forms with progressive bluegrass. Their "Eastbound"
album is a masterpiece. Much easier to track down is transplanted (now a
Chicagoan) Czech guitarist Slavek Hanzlik. He has recorded 4 terrific solo
albums, with all-star people (Bela Fleck, Stuart Duncan, Vassar Clements,
etc.), and all are worth exploring.

Dave Royko

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:10:19 -0400
From: Alexander Blok <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: questions (T:un[k] Systems)

Sorry for the delay in reply.

>Also, I just re-listened to the excellent
>Disinformation remix album on Ash International called
>'Al-Jabr' and was wondering what people knew about
>this group T:un[k] Systems. I like their track a lot
>but can't seem to find any info on them.

T:un[k] Systems is actually the work of a guy named Pete Hodgkinson. The
only other T:un[k] release I'm aware of is this self-released CD from last
year. I can't remember the title or the label name, sorry. Anyway, it's a
collaboration between Pete, Barry Nichols of Action Concrete, Linden Hale,
and perhaps someone else as well. Lots of rough digital flickering and
droney whines and Voice Crack-ish crack, all very atmospheric as if it was
a field recording, i.e., not Mego-ish sounding exactly, not spawned inside
a computer and never let out. Process-oriented music like that of The
Hafler Trio and (some) of Mika Vainio's work comes to mind if I had to draw
a comparison. In all, it's thoughtfully constructed stuff and quite
intriguing if taken alone (from the thousands of other groups doing
something similar these days). I don't know if this ever saw the light of
day in a major way(??). Perhaps Other Music has it tucked away somewhere.=20

Hope that helps.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Hamlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: sheet music

hey,
i just joined this list and so maybe i'm asking a
redundant dead question...
flog me i guess if i am...

is there some where i can get sheet music of zorn's
stuff... i've heard marc ribot talk about how much
learning the book of heads improved his playing and
i'd really like to try to learn it...

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