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Zorn List Digest      Sunday, September 26 1999      Volume 02 : Number 760



In this issue:
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       Revisionism or Blunder?
       Re: besides record stores in nyc...
       Nono Recording
       Re: Prelapse
       New Don Byron
       Re: besides record stores in nyc...
       A few CDs for sale
       new FMP titles
       Uri Caine-Mahaler
       Re: Zorn Jazziz
       Prelapse and John Cage
       Re: new FMP titles: CT
       Re: Prelapse and John Cage
       waits at the beacon
       Re: New June Tabor?
       Re: New June Tabor?
       new Otomo
       more Otomo
       RE: Uri Caine-Mahaler
       Uri Caine's Mahler CD
       Re: Uri Caine's Mahler CD
       Re: Uri Caine's Mahler CD

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:46:41 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Revisionism or Blunder?

    Writing down the detailed description of the GODARD/SPILLANE record
I was puzzled at the absence of Arto Lindsay's name. On the original version
of SPILLANE, Arto was sharing the credits of the composition "Spillane" (for
the lyrics).

    Any idea what happened?

    Patrice.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:15:08 -0400
From: Rich Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: besides record stores in nyc...

>Although I'd love a list of music retailers in NYC, too, I'd appreciate it if
>anyone could suggest some free jazz and avant garde venues in the NY and New
>England area, besides the obvious Knitting Factory, Kitchen, etc..  Also,
>having just moved to Connecticut, I was wondering if anyone knows of a good
>store to get musical equipment and repair for guitars, electronics, etc..
>anywhere in the CT, MA, RI, NY area.
>
>thanks for any help,
>Karen
>
>-

Hi Karen,
    A few good places to visit in CT;

Brass City Records in Waterbury- Good avant section, knowledgable
staff, and they've hosted gigs by Henry Kaiser, Jonas Helborg, and
Daevid Allen to name a few. It's just a short hop off of route 8.

Caruso Music  New London  Good music equipment store.  Personal
service, and a willingness to get things right.

East Coast Music Mall   Danbury  Their glory days are past, but they
employ some of the best  Luthiers in the country

Cutlers  New Haven- Better than average record store in the heart of Yale Univ.

Sam Ash music in New Haven, good on price, and selection, but not much else

The Buttonwood tree  Middletown Ct  Performance
space/gallery/coffeehouse,  a good place to meet other musicians

WPKN _FM  89.5  Bridgeport  possibly the best radio station on the
planet, at the least the most diverse.

Real Art Ways Hartford  A great gallery/performance space


Hope this helps smooth the move to CT

Rich

BTW : Forever Einstein will be playing at Cafe Nine in New Haven
next wednesday the 29th  its a short walk from the train station and
definitely worth the trip up from NYC, folks.


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:50:17 +0200
From: Stephen Fruitman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Nono Recording

Does anyone know whether this piece for electronics by Luigi Nono from the
1960s:

_Ricorda cosa ti hanno fatto in Auschwitz_

has been recorded and released?

If so, please e-mail me privately with CD label and catalogue details. It
would be a big help.

Many thanks,

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Umea University
SE-901 87 Umea Sweden


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Bj=F6rn Olsson,
Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. [phone] fax 143374
e-post: [e-mail]



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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:27:50 -0400
From: "Daniel L Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Prelapse

> We're doing our best to put together some kind of tour and some local
shows,
> but I'm afraid that our shows are a bit rare. We all have a lot of other
> projects and commitments. I'll let the list know when we have a
performance
> schedule ready. In the meantime, if anyone knows of places that we could
> play that are within a few days drive of New York, I'll do everything I
can
> to get out there and do a show. Just email me.

Yeah! Yeah!  please post a list when you get the opportunity.  Also, it's
nice to finally see "Blood Sucking Freaks" finally see the light of day.
(the version Zorn recorded w/ Yoshida Tatsuya and was released on Magaibutsu
just didn't cut it)

Dann
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:56:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Don Byron

HAs anyone else heard this one - its called Romance with the Unseen, on
BLue Note, w/ Bill Frisell, Drew Gress, and Jack Dejohnette.  I really
liked the Byron/Frisell tracks on Tuskeegee Experiments, and while this is
different and a lot more laid back in general (some might say 'tame', I
don't know) there are some real nice parts.  Don Byron's CDs often tend to
be a little long - there's a long track in the middle that meanders plus
two kind of disposable, brief excerpts here - but usually enough as in
this case to make it worthwhile.  Just wondering what anyone else thought
about it...

WY



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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:03:33 -0400
From: "Zachary J. Griffin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: besides record stores in nyc...

> Rich
>
> BTW : Forever Einstein will be playing at Cafe Nine in New Haven
> next wednesday the 29th  its a short walk from the train station and
> definitely worth the trip up from NYC, folks.
>
> -

Oh wow! Thanks for mentioning it.  I had no knowledge of this (I guess I should
pick up the latest issue of the New Haven Advocate).  It looks like my plans are
set for wednesday the 29th.

Zach


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <[e-mail]>
Subject: A few CDs for sale

Sorry for the intrusion; I have these for sale at very reasonable prices
for anyone interested...

*Myra Melford - Alive in the House of Saints (hat art)
*Sunny Murrey Trio w/ David Murray and Malachi Favors - Live at Moers
 Festival (Moers)
*Altered States - Altered States (Zenbei)
*Steve Beresford - Cue Sheets (Tzadik)
*Matthew Shipp - The Flow of X (2.13.61)

WY


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:46:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: new FMP titles

three pretty exciting titles here, from the FMP web site=20
(http://www.pro-web.de/fmp/). they haven't made it over to the US yet, but=20
I'm sure they'll be here soon. all three of these look great, but since the=20
only two previously available Schlippenbach trio CDs were recorded all the=20
way back in '90 and '91, that's the one I'm most interested in hearing=20
personally.

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
- --
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FMP CD 103=20
DIGGER=B4S HARVEST
Alexander von Schlippenbach & Tony Oxley=20

*   Alexander von Schlippenbach -p=20
*   Tony Oxley -dr=20

    78:28=20
November 1998, Berlin=20


FMP CD 104=20
MELANCHOLY
Cecil Taylor Workshop Ensemble=20

*   Tobias Netta -tr=20
*   Wolfgang Fuchs -b-cl=20
*   Harri Sj=F6str=F6m -ss=20
*   Volker Schlott -as=20
*   Evan Parker -ss, -ts=20
*   Thomas Klemm -ts=20
*   J=F6rg Huke -tb=20
*   Thomas Wiedermann -tb=20
*   Cecil Taylor -p=20
*   Barry Guy -db=20
*   Tony Oxley -dr=20

    70:08=20
September 1990, Berlin=20
=20
FMP CD 106=20
COMPLETE COMBUSTION
Schlippenbach Trio=20

*   Evan Parker -ss, -ts=20
*   Alexander von Schlippenbach -p=20
*   Paul Lovens -dr=20

    75:20=20
April 1998, Berlin=20

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Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:54:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uri Caine-Mahaler

There is an excelent recording of Uri Caine's Mahler, live at the Montreux
Jazz Festival, 1998. Not published but broadcast in one of Branford
Marsalis' Jazz Set. It also includes an interview in which UCaine
discusses why Mahler and why such a project. I have a copy but I'm also
looking forward for the CD.

Jose


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:30:20 +0100
From: "Richard Gardner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn Jazziz

Whoops sorry guys if the complete Jazziz article is posted that's my fault.
I intended it to go privately and forgot the procedure.

My apologies.

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:32:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Prelapse and John Cage

I read John Cage's I-VI.  The book is okay, but if you
have Silence or any of the others you probably don't
need that.  The best part was actually the Q&A that
ran beneath the text that was transcribed from a Q&A
session that Cage had with some students before a
performance of the piece.

God bless Cleveland Public Library, because that's
where I found the copy that I read.


As for the sax player in Prelapse sounds a lot like
Zorn, I remember seeing that he was a "special guest".
 So, maybe there's a REASON he sounds a lot like Zorn.
:)


Peter
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:32:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: new FMP titles: CT

There's more Taylor as well.

Talking to Dominic Duval recently, he told me during his membership
in Cecil's trio a couple of years ago, it recorded for FMP as well.

I assume anyone who likes the CT Iridiums on CJR will like these as well.

When they'll come out, of course, is another matter.

Ken Waxman

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:36:46 -0500
From: Joseph Zitt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Prelapse and John Cage

On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 07:32:18AM -0700, Peter Risser wrote:
> I read John Cage's I-VI.  The book is okay, but if you
> have Silence or any of the others you probably don't
> need that.  The best part was actually the Q&A that
> ran beneath the text that was transcribed from a Q&A
> session that Cage had with some students before a
> performance of the piece.

I-VI is probably the Cage book I take off the shelf and wander through
most, though it's far from his most informative. The Q&A is quite good,
as are the audio materials. I'll probably get the Special Edition, but
then, I'm a fetishist :-)

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:34:05 -0800
From: Jason Tors <[e-mail]>
Subject: waits at the beacon

The beacon is the perfect setting for waits. What a real great old theatre!
From any seat you have a perfect view of the stage, and rightly so, waits
puts on quite a show indeed. Having never seen waits play live, I had no
idea what I was in store for. He is not only a class act musician /
songwriter but a flexible performer. The way he wiggles and struts around
up there on his plywood platform is reminicent of old film clips I have
seen of neal cassady dancing around. He'll throw his body around while
belting out the most ragged anthem, like his limbs were made of rubber.
Waits came up on stage from the crowd, beat hat pushed down, tossing
glitter from his pocket, wailing out a dusty megaphone, then got on his
platform, which was also very very dusty, and started kicking around doing
a major stomp, his voice was real ragged at first and then got better as
the show progressed, dont know wether that was intentional. During the
eyeball kid he put on this hat with mirror flecks all over the outside. Two
tight blue spotlights aimed at his head, beams of blue light went
everywhere, like a human disco ball but with less beams of light. It was
really a spectacular effect, he did this as each player in his band took a
mini solo. The band was perfect, very unconventional, the guitar player
seemed rooted in ribot's style, which I guess is really intregal to waits'
sound. The keyboard player was not too prominent, the upright player was
very tasteful [and played a mean guitar on box spring hog] the drummer was
the highlight for me. He really pushed the envelope as so many drummers
have to with waits, all the players [besides the keys] really played to,
and above, the waitsian aestetic. I went in hoping for a lot of the old
material, to my surprise I was most impressed with his renditions of the
new mule var songs. He played all the big ones of that album, eyeball kid,
cold water, that box spring hog tune, hold on [which was beautiful] get
behind the mule, and whats he building in there [which I thought was chessy
on the album but great live!!!] Some songs off bone machine, jesus gonna be
here, colluseum, and red house, probably some more I am missing. Then they
brought out an upright piano and tom played with the bass player for a
bunch of songs, doing mostly old ones from swordfish and raindogs. Ones
that stand out are 40 aught 6, tango till they droped, jockey full of
burbon, and a bunch more that I seem to have lost track of. tom played two
encores and was real energized, making all these great apropo comments
introducing tunes and just general comments and mockery.

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:13:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New June Tabor?

I have the tribute album to Richard Thompson, in which June Tabor performs
two songs, "Beat the Retreat" and "Genesis Hall".  A strongly recommended
album (the link to this list would be that Thompson has made records with
Fred Frith, Henry Kaiser and John French)

June Tabor is a traditional British folk singer.     She has performed songs
by Duke Ellington, so there is a jazz sensability there.  Her voice has great
emotional qualities.  I think she has about 17 albums under her own name.

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:11:40 +0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New June Tabor?

>June Tabor is a traditional British folk singer.     She has performed songs
>by Duke Ellington, so there is a jazz sensability there.  Her voice has great
>emotional qualities.  I think she has about 17 albums under her own name.

Yes she is a folk singer who has ventured into other musics. In my opinion
she is a 'fine' singer within that discipline, though somewhat mannered.
Outside of it she has not an idea. Just because she has performed standards
and Ellington tunes does not mean she adds to them, let alone understands
them. A bit like Marsalis and Monk?
Billy



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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:42:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: new Otomo

There are two new Otomo Yoshihide recordings on P-Vine
now available in the States (they've been around in
Japan about a month). There's a CD called 'Yoshihide
Otomo Plays The Music Of Takeo Yamashita' and a 12"
called 'The Ending Theme Song Of Lupin The Third'.

I picked up the CD today (haven't listened to it yet)
but held off from buying the 12" for fear that it was
just material from the CD. Does anyone know if the 12"
is exclusive material or not?

Thanks.

     -Tom Pratt

listening to: Loren MazzaCane Connors - 9th Avenue
(Black). Part of my own personal MazzaCane fest...
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:41:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: more Otomo

Oh yeah, for those who care, P-Vine is releasing
another 12" by Otomo called 'Playgirl' on 10/10 in
Japan (it'll probably take a month or so to hit the
States, though). The upcoming (Oct) Otomo disc on
Tzadik is called 'Cathode' and you can check out all
the info at
http://www2.gol.com/users/miyuki/yotomo/yotomodisco/cathode.html.

There should be some other things too...

     -Tom Pratt

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Date: 25 Sep 1999 08:49:00 -0500
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Uri Caine-Mahaler

Jose: Could you give me further information about your copy? tracks, musicians,
etc.
If you think is off topic for the list please e-mail me privately

Thanks

Gustavo

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Subject: Uri Caine-Mahaler



There is an excelent recording of Uri Caine's Mahler, live at the Montreux
Jazz Festival, 1998. Not published but broadcast in one of Branford
Marsalis' Jazz Set. It also includes an interview in which UCaine
discusses why Mahler and why such a project. I have a copy but I'm also
looking forward for the CD.

Jose


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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 17:07:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uri Caine's Mahler CD

> Uri's new cd will be released on Winter and Winter.  It is out in Europe.  It
> was recorded live at Tolbach.  It's under the artist title of Mahler, Live at
> Toblach. The release date for the states is not set, but it will be out this
> fall.   It is obviously not the same as Primal Light.

Does anyone know who the drummer is on this live Caine 2CD?  Is it Jim
Black by any chance (hopefully)?  And if anyone could tell me who some of
the other folks are that would be great too.

Thanks,

WY


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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:34:59 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Uri Caine's Mahler CD

William York wrote:

> > Uri's new cd will be released on Winter and Winter.  It is out in Europe.  It
> > was recorded live at Tolbach.  It's under the artist title of Mahler, Live at
> > Toblach. The release date for the states is not set, but it will be out this
> > fall.   It is obviously not the same as Primal Light.
>
> Does anyone know who the drummer is on this live Caine 2CD?  Is it Jim
> Black by any chance (hopefully)?  And if anyone could tell me who some of
> the other folks are that would be great too.

Well, hold onto your hat...it's Jim Black, along with Mark Feldman,
Ralph Alessi,
Dave Binney, Mike Formanek, DJ Olive, Aaron Bensousan, and of course
Uri.  Uri has
used various combinations to play this music.  Dave Douglas, Drew Gress,
Cornell
Rochester among others.  He prefers a smaller group.  The band gets to
really
stretch out on this longer version.

Alan Kayser

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> WY
>
> -


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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:57:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (David J. Polak)
Subject: Re: Uri Caine's Mahler CD

CDNow lists the CD as coming out in the states on October 12. It is
available for advance order. I think the price is $24.97. Do an artist
search for "Gustav In Tolbach Mahler" without the quotes and it should pop
right up.


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