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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #759
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, September 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 759
In this issue:
-
Re: uri cain - mahler live?
RE: Spillane
Prelapse
AALY/Vandermark
Mumma!
Uri Caine on Fresh Air
Re: uri cain - mahler live?
new ribot band / ganryu island
Re: new ribot band / ganryu island
Caine Interview
Tour Dates
CD stores in NYC
besides record stores in nyc...
New June Tabor?
Zorn/Jazziz
Giustino Di Gregorio
New Bungle Dates
RE: Prelapse
Masada Song Names.
New Masada Live
filmed of John Zorn
john cage fetishists: rejoice
Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #757
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:26:03 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <aek1@erols.com>
Subject: Re: uri cain - mahler live?
Whit Schonbein wrote:
> since it does not appear to be possible to search the archives (or maybe
> i'm just missing something), i was hoping someone could tell me: a friend
> of mine stopped by DMG last week to pick up the new uri caine mahler
> project disc i heard mentioned on the list, and was told it was not
> released yet. i assumed DMG would have it as an import if it had been
> released in europe. the question is: has it been released /anywhere/, and
> where might one get it via mailorder if it has been released? or, anyone
> know the US release date?
Uri's new cd will be released on Winter and Winter. It is out in Europe. It
was recorded live at Tolbach. It's under the artist title of Mahler, Live at
Toblach. The release date for the states is not set, but it will be out this
fall. It is obviously not the same as Primal Light.
Alan Kayser
>
>
> thanks,
> whit
>
> -
- -
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:00:54 -0300
From: "Hugo Linares" <hlinares@utenet.com.ar>
Subject: RE: Spillane
>On a used CD store I found a Bill Frisell CD the
>other day, on Nonesuch, apparently from 1996, Eyvind
>Kang plays on it and I wonder, is it good????
>A
First of all, you're very lucky to find on a used store such a CD like
"Quartet" (Nonesuch); it's not easy for me to say which is the best Frisell,
but this one is amazing. Lineup also includes Ron Miles on trumpet and
Curtis Fowlkes on trombone: you don't really miss any percussion at all with
those guys!
Nevertheless, if "Quartet" is your first Frisell, I would recommend to be
pretty patient because it's a recording that tastes better after continuous
listenings (al least that was my personal experience), but naturally it's
worth the price.
Go get it now. Highly recommended.
Hugo.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Prelapse
> NP (on radio): the Prelapse portion of the new Zorn disc.
> Um.....intricately noisy!
Do you mean the Prelapse portion of the Music for Children CD from last
year, or the new self titled Prelapse CD (that comes out today, I guess)
on Avant. The s/t album is made up of both songs written by Zorn (half in
number, only about 1/4 of the disc in length as most are really short)
with the rest being Prelapse originals. I had a chance to review the copy
at our radio station and listened to it a whole lot; actually, I like the
Prelapse songs better than Zorn's, for the most part, b/c I feel like I've
heard almost all of Zorn's 'tricks' in writing this kind of music. I've
listened too the first Naked City, Radio, and Torture Garden way too much
to be very surprised I think.
I was proud of myself b/c I put the player on shuffle the first time I
listened to the disc, and was able to guess who wrote the songs (Zorn or
Prelapse) like 21 out of 23 times. The Prelapse songs have more heavy
riffs, and do not have quite as many abrupt changes (and they do them
diferently - Zorn's moves are kind of trademarked anyhow). But I feel
sorry for the sax player, b/c he sounds almost exactly like Zorn and may
not ever be able to recover!
WY
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:02:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: AALY/Vandermark
Brian O. wrote about AALY/KVD:
>2) they generally either bracket their pieces with or move towards tight
>little kernals of thematic material, often riff-based. Part of me recoils
>a wee bit at this relative crowd-pleasing approach but, hell, they pull
>it off at such a high, strong level that I'm reluctant to carp much.
Have you heard the new CD of theirs on Wobbly Rail? 'Crowd pleasing'
isn't the first thing to come to mind on that! But I wasn't at that show
you're talking about. Anyway, I would guess that that tendency comes from
Vandermark, but thankfully it is much less pronounced in this group than
the Vandermark 5 (who I still pretty much like, but think are often too
restricted by the written parts which can sound forced at times).
The new AALY/KVD CD is a lot wilder than the first, much more
abrasive...actually it's the kind of thing I enjoy more live but I've
gotten to like this one a lot. Very good sound for a live recording,
undecorated but still very punchy and upfront.
WY
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:59:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mumma!
- --- Daniel L Brown <DLB7@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> In late August, Downtown music Gallery sent me a
> pamphlet listing the entire
> Tzadik cataloge. On the back page, it had a list of
> "Upcoming Releases" -
> here's what the list said:
>
> COMPOSER SERIES
> Sprut
> Zeena Parkins
> Otomo Yoshihide
> Lois Vierk
> Geroge Lewis
> John Zorn
> Peter Garland
> Gordon Mumma
> Gerry Hemmingway (yes!)
I'm psyched about that Gordon Mumma one! Does anyone
know what it is? New work or re-issue? (is Mumma still
alive?)... Whatever happened to Lovely's plans of
re-issuing a couple of his LPs?
-Tom Pratt
listening to: Napoli Centrale featuring James Senese
(Replay Music). Really cool Italian psych/jazz/rock stuff.
__________________________________________________
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- -
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:25:37 -0400
From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com
Subject: Uri Caine on Fresh Air
As Patrice indicated, this was a fine interview. You can listen to the whole
hour at the Fresh Air website.
Go to http://whyy.org/freshair/today.html and select Sept 13, 1999.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:22:51 +0200
From: Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se>
Subject: Re: uri cain - mahler live?
The Uri Caine disc(s) (for it is a double) are in fact similar but in no
wise exactly the same (as far as the set list is concerned) to the studio
album, _Urlicht_. Over 2 discs, each nearing 60 minutes, he and the
ensemble (a slightly smaller cast than on the studio album, with many
returnees - about eight men on stage, I believe) really stretch out and
allow themselves to elevate this music to new heights. DJ Olive is even
given two short solo spots.
>the question is: has it been released /anywhere/, and
>where might one get it via mailorder if it has been released? or, anyone
>know the US release date?
>Uri's new cd will be released on Winter and Winter.
Indeed.
>It is out in Europe.
Yes, I believe it is. I received my copy as a promo, but without being
given any info about release dates, was led to believe that it was meant to
be on the market in Europe immediately. I just dropped a message to the
Swedish distributor, we=B4ll see if he can answer the availability question.
>It
>was recorded live at Tolbach. It's under the artist title of Mahler
>Actually "Uri Caine Ensemble: Mahler Live at Toblach"...and then a poetic
>subtitle taken from one of his lieder, something like "In the Morning I
>Walk out into the Countryside"; can check when I get home if anyone=B4s
>interested.
>It is obviously not the same as Primal Light.
Indeed. Though asides from Olive=B4s stuff, everything is based on cuts on
the studio album; which does not mean that everything on the studio album
is included in the show.
And finally: It=B4s just brilliant. Better, better by far than the excellent
studio version. And in snazzier packaging to boot. All the best, Stephen
- --------------
Bj=F6rn Olsson,
Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374
e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:15:13 +0200
From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
Subject: new ribot band / ganryu island
hi fellow zornsters
have never seen anyone mention it on the list before, but i'm sure some
of you might be interested.
marc ribot has a new (i guess) tribute band; this time it's a tribute to
django reinhardt. they played in berne (switzerland) last weekend. the
line-up is: ribot on guitar, eyvid kang on violin, greg cohen on bass,
and joey baron on drums. "unfortunately" i was performing myself that
evening, so i couldn't go. but they got a very positive review in one of
the best-selling swiss dailies.
does anyone on the list know if ganryu island has anything to do with
the great samurai miyamoto musashi? i think it does. but maybe someone
knows about the background of the story. thanks for your help.
patRice
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:36:55 -0400
From: "Zachary J. Griffin" <zgriffin@iconn.net>
Subject: Re: new ribot band / ganryu island
> does anyone on the list know if ganryu island has anything to do with
> the great samurai miyamoto musashi? i think it does. but maybe someone
> knows about the background of the story. thanks for your help.
You are correct. Paraphrasing the Tzadik web site, "Ganryu Island is where
Miyamoto Musashi and Sasaki Kojiro met for the first and last time". Since
we are on this subject, does anyone know of any good books pertaining to the
Samurai (other than The Book of Five Rings)?
Zach
- -
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:35:42 EDT
From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com
Subject: Caine Interview
<< PS: BTW, did people hear Uri Caine's interview on Fresh Air (NPR)? It was
quite nice. >>
Wow. Is there somewhere a transcript can be read?
Joseph
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:01:47 CDT
From: "Austin Duggan" <goddamilovetorocknroll@hotmail.com>
Subject: Tour Dates
Is there any form of John Zorn Tour going on in the U.S in the near future?
If so, can I have the dates and locations and/or where they are posted?
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- -
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:51:16 +0200
From: otto.siegfried@t-online.de (otto)
Subject: CD stores in NYC
Can anybody name a few CD stores (new & used) besides Other Music in NYC?
Grateful for any help
Siegfried
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:46:59 EDT
From: KWaltuch@aol.com
Subject: besides record stores in nyc...
Although I'd love a list of music retailers in NYC, too, I'd appreciate it if
anyone could suggest some free jazz and avant garde venues in the NY and New
England area, besides the obvious Knitting Factory, Kitchen, etc.. Also,
having just moved to Connecticut, I was wondering if anyone knows of a good
store to get musical equipment and repair for guitars, electronics, etc..
anywhere in the CT, MA, RI, NY area.
thanks for any help,
Karen
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:27:19 +0200
From: Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se>
Subject: New June Tabor?
Has anyone heard the new release by singer June Tabor, _A Quiet Eye_ (Topic
Records)? Jazz critics here are falling all over themselves describing its
beauty.
Has anyone got an address (e- or otherwise) to Topic Records?
Many thanks, Stephen
- -----------------
Bj=F6rn Olsson,
Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374
e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:28:31 EDT
From: DRoyko@aol.com
Subject: Zorn/Jazziz
I swear, for two months, from before it was on the stands, I looked for a
copy of the Jazziz w/ the Zorn interview. And I saw many copies of the month
preceding, and many copies later of the month after, but I must frequent
magazine stands frequented by Zorn fans, because I was never able to track
one down.
Anyone have a scanned or otherwised text'd version they could e-mail me?
Dave Royko
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:59:25 EDT
From: Orangejazz@aol.com
Subject: Giustino Di Gregorio
does anyone have any information on Giustino Di Gregorio, I saw his new album
out on Tzadik, he seems pretty interesting..does he have anything else
available?
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:57:23 -0500
From: King Wilson <kingwil@enteract.com>
Subject: New Bungle Dates
http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990922/story6.html
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:50:57 -0400
From: "Mason Wendell" <fist@erols.com>
Subject: RE: Prelapse
Hey, thanks for the "review!" I'm particularly pleased you could tell the
difference between our originals and Zorn's pieces. I wrote some of my tunes
as tributes to Zorn, and some were of course written purely for myself, and
I think there's a marked difference in each composer's style. The long time
list members probably know this CD has been kind of a log time coming, but
it's finally out and we're all dang proud of it.
We're doing our best to put together some kind of tour and some local shows,
but I'm afraid that our shows are a bit rare. We all have a lot of other
projects and commitments. I'll let the list know when we have a performance
schedule ready. In the meantime, if anyone knows of places that we could
play that are within a few days drive of New York, I'll do everything I can
to get out there and do a show. Just email me.
Thanks!
</Mason.Prelapse>
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of William York
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:48 AM
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Prelapse
> NP (on radio): the Prelapse portion of the new Zorn disc.
> Um.....intricately noisy!
Do you mean the Prelapse portion of the Music for Children CD from last
year, or the new self titled Prelapse CD (that comes out today, I guess)
on Avant. The s/t album is made up of both songs written by Zorn (half in
number, only about 1/4 of the disc in length as most are really short)
with the rest being Prelapse originals. I had a chance to review the copy
at our radio station and listened to it a whole lot; actually, I like the
Prelapse songs better than Zorn's, for the most part, b/c I feel like I've
heard almost all of Zorn's 'tricks' in writing this kind of music. I've
listened too the first Naked City, Radio, and Torture Garden way too much
to be very surprised I think.
I was proud of myself b/c I put the player on shuffle the first time I
listened to the disc, and was able to guess who wrote the songs (Zorn or
Prelapse) like 21 out of 23 times. The Prelapse songs have more heavy
riffs, and do not have quite as many abrupt changes (and they do them
diferently - Zorn's moves are kind of trademarked anyhow). But I feel
sorry for the sax player, b/c he sounds almost exactly like Zorn and may
not ever be able to recover!
WY
- -
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:28:02 +0300
From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?=22=DCM=DDT_BAYKARA=22?= <ubaykara@ykb.com>
Subject: Masada Song Names.
Hi all,
Is there a document or a link somewhere which has the translations of the song
names of Masada titles? Or if not, does anybody volunteer to make these
translations ? ;-)
Cheers,
Umit.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:46:15 +0200
From: Geert Buelens <buelens@uia.ua.ac.be>
Subject: New Masada Live
Belgian Radio Tuesday announced that Masada's extraordinary Antwerp
Concert (Aug 15) will be released on Tzadik as 'Live at Middelheim'
later this year...
(And yesterday Belgian television used music from 'The Big Gundown' in a
news item about... euh, guns.)
geert
- -
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:41:29 +0200
From: fgiorgio@pianeta.it (Forti Giorgio)
Subject: filmed of John Zorn
Hello..
I'm interested in trade/buy/exchange filmed of John Zorn,
and other artists...
rarity...
best regards
fgiorgio@pianeta.it
- -
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:23:42 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: john cage fetishists: rejoice
Zorn-listers and others alike:
Ran across this as part of Harvard University Press' "Spring Big Savings"
Sale, which ends soon (Sept 30). I noticed the word "autographed" in the
description. Can this be? I haven't the desire or cash to spend on this,
but it looks like a beautiful collector's item.
365.
I-VI SPECIAL EDITION
John Cage
One of the century's most influential composers turns his attention to the
spoken word. As provocative as any of his music, these six lectures--or
performances-- were delivered at Harvard in 1988-1989. The compositions are
intended to be read aloud, and the accompanying tapes preserve Cage's own
mesmerizing reading as well as the lively Q & A sessions that followed each
lecture. This beautiful autographed edition by the late John Cage is
available in limited quantities. The Special Edition encloses the six
volumes along with the audiocassettes in a deluxe box.
464 pages, illustrations, 1991
List price $165.00
Sale price $125.00
the URL is: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/Mail%20Sale/humanities.html
And you must call a certain 800 number, rather than using the form on their
site.
Just though this might be of interest...
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:47:08 +0100
From: Richard@rcvs.org.uk
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #757
> I think the main reason people are slamming this album is that the
> idea is good but not the execution. Derek is playing pretty well, but
> the beats are a real let-down
I was going to reply to that original message saying "Oh ignore
them, it's a fine record". Of course, Mr Quint [above] is quite right --
it *is* terribly flawed, in that DJ Ninj isn't up to the company he's in -
- - but I must confess I'm very fond of this record. It has a sort of
relentless energy to it which is nice. It's not great art, but it's fun.
If you like the Derek & The Ruins sessions, you'll probably get a
blast out of it.
I've heard of this "Derek & Rhythms" thing before -- does Bingo
have a web site?
Rich
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