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Zorn List Digest     Saturday, September 18 1999     Volume 02 : Number 757



In this issue:
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       Re: Other Anzellotti accordion
       Re: Ribot
       Re: Barking Hoop
       PONGA
       Re: 2 questions: Faust and Ribot
       Mixed FS list ...
       Re: 2 questions: Faust and Ribot
       questions on 2 winter & winter releases
       Re: Miller theater performances
       Ponga/Spillane etc
       Fahey live review
       Off topic/Nederland
       Nederland
       Re: Miller theater performances
       ellington.
       filmed of John Zorn
       Re: ellington.
       RE: ellington.
       Re: ellington.
       Re: ellington.
       derek bailey - Guitar, Drum, and bass
       Ponga...

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:14:06 +0200
From: "Stephane Vuilleumier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Other Anzellotti accordion

Anzellotti is great.

On Winter and Winter too,

I actually _prefer_

maurizio kagel solowerke f=FCr akkordeon und klavier
(the piano pieces are played by luk vaes)

Stephane


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From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To:             <[e-mail]>; [e-mail].a=
u
<[e-mail]>
Date: jeudi, 16. septembre 1999 18:25
Subject: Re: satie accordion


>>I remember a while back someone mentioning a CD where Satie was played =
on
>>accordion. Can anyone tell me who the artist is or the title of the CD?
>
>Teodoro Anzelotti on Winter & Winter. It's a beautiful album with a heal=
thy
>concentration on many non-standard pieces from the Satie oeuvre,
sensitively
>played. Satie & accordion: how can you go wrong?
>
>Any other recommended Anzelotti?
>
>Brian Olewnick
>
>
>
>
>
>-
>


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:24:32 -0400
From: "Liz Penta" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Ribot

> Question #2: How is Marc Ribot's last name pronounced? I'm tired of not
> being sure.

Marc pronounces it "REE-bo" (very un-French like).

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:22:05 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Barking Hoop

Patrice wrote:

>I know that "Barking Hoop" is composition by Kevin Norton, but does anybody
>know what is the label Barking Hoop? Any address?

This was self-released by Kevin, & is the name he has taken for his label.

Steve F.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:49:22 -0700
From: "richard starke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PONGA

Hey !
Glad to see PONGA talk. I work at the label "loosegroove" who released the
disc in America.

Here is the full tour :-

September 24th - Seattle - OK Hotel
September 25th - Eugene - Sam Bond's Garage
September 27th - Portland - Berbait's Pan
September 28th - San Francisco - Elbow Room
September 29th - Los Angeles - Luna Park
September 30th - Santa Barbara - Mercury Lounge
October 1st - San Diego - Dream Street
October 2nd - Los Angeles - Dragonfly

The remix CD is slated for an Oct 19th release date.

Remixes from Amon Tobin,Capsule 150,Fila Brazillia,Spacetime Continuum and a
bunch more. Plus there are 2 new Ponga tracks.

You can check sound samples at    www.loosegroove.com/ponga_remix.html

Hopefully this is a full update. If you need anymore Ponga info email me !!

richard


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:39:15 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: 2 questions: Faust and Ribot

In a message dated 9/16/99 1:02:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< At 12:11 PM 9/15/99 -0700, Rusty Crump wrote:
 >Question #1: Pollstar lists Faust playing San Francisco Tuesday, October
 >26th, at the Great American Music Hall. Can anyone confirm or deny this,
 >or provide other details? The usual SF print media don't have anything
 >about this yet.

 It is true.  I just bought my tickets from TicketWeb.  Give the following
 link a shot:

 http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=sfbay&query=detail&event=69471

 Also Check out the GAMH page (http://www.musichallsf.com/)
  >>

I also read about this- on Darla.com .  One of their bands is opening for
them- can't remember who right now...

=dg=

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:51:07 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Mixed FS list ...

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- -Patrick
[e-mail]
http://www.astro.utoronto.ca/~carey/sofa/sale.html



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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:11:33 -0700
From: Rusty Crump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: 2 questions: Faust and Ribot

[e-mail] wrote:

>  It is true.  I just bought my tickets from TicketWeb.  Give the following
>  link a shot:
>
>  http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=sfbay&query=detail&event=69471
>
>  Also Check out the GAMH page (http://www.musichallsf.com/)
>   >>
>
> I also read about this- on Darla.com .  One of their bands is opening for
> them- can't remember who right now...
>
>

Thanks to everyone who responded to this, and to the Ribot question. (Hi,
Liz, sorry I never got to interview MMW back when I was producing/DJing for
the Univ. of Mississippi radio station.) The opening band was listed as
something called 1655 (Unused). I got my ticket earlier today -- if anyone
looks for me at the show, I'll be the one with the bleeding ears.

Wm. Crump




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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:02:20 +1000
From: "Julian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: questions on 2 winter & winter releases

Just searching around cdnow and came up with these two questions:

Firstly, would I be correct in assuming that Tethered Moon, the artist
which is listed for the new cd 'Chansons D'Edith Piaf', is the group that
brought out the album 'Tethered Moon' in 1998, featuring Paul Motian and
co.? Incidentally, I also found an album of Kurt Weill by Tethered Moon.

And secondly, can anyone make any comments about 'Venezia La Festa' also on
Winter & Winter?

Thanks in advance.
Julian.
http://www.hartingdale.com.au/~jcurwin/

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:08:24 -0400
From: stephen drury <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Miller theater performances

At 02:00 PM 9/16/99 -0600, Kurt wrote:
>Just got the Miller Theater (Columbia University, NYC) schedule in the mail.
>Included are the following:
>John Zorn and Paul Schoenfield
>Zorn: Amour Fou; Le Momo; Untitles (for Joweph Cornell)
>Ahn Trio
>Jennfer Choi, violin
>Eric [sic] Friedlander, cello
>(a trio of two? dunno. tha's all she wrote)
>
Please inform the motherfuckers at the Miller theater that Steve Drury is
playing piano, along with JennIfer and Erik.  Love to all,


- --steve
www.stephendrury.com


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:57:19 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Ponga/Spillane etc

> I guess it's obvious from what I say in the review, but I'll reiterate it:
> the album is a fucking blast, from start to finish. Easily the best stuff
> I've heard either Previte or Horvitz do in ages.

In case you need to read another rave review of this record,
(musings) concurs entirely with Mr Hopkins on this issue:

http://www.geocities.com/soho/square/6100

There's still a 60-second MP3 soundbite from the disc there as
well, but it won't be there for long. A truly great mix of old-fashioned
fusion and contemporary electro sensibilities, with genuine free
jazz energy.

> Was Spillane re-released through Tzadik lately?

I believe so, but not with the original programme (I say this without
anything to substantiate it, so someone else had better jump in
here).

> Which label did originally release Spillane?

Electra/Nonesuch. Until recently, at least, it was still available in
high street UK shops, but maybe that's just back-stock.

> Opinions on it?

The Nonesuch issue contains the following pieces:

Spillane: an episodic stylistic mix; if you like the early Filmworks
albums, or the Naked City stuff, you'll love it.
Two-Lane Highway: piece composed by Zorn for one of his heroes,
Albert Collins. Must have been a real challenge to create
something, as he says, which Collins was comfortable improvising
within, but which wasn't just straight blues. Very bluesy, quite
unpredictable stuff, unlike anything else JZ has done.
Forbidden Fruit: the "difficult" one, for string quartet and turntables.
Good and spikey.

The Nonesuch release is widely regarded as one of Zorn's most
accessible and most essential releases. Without knowing what
Tzadik have done to it it's hard to say whether they've improved it or
not. Certainly "Forbidden fruit" sits oddly in this company, and
while it's a nice piece it might have been an idea to replace it with
something more in keeping with the overall tone of the record.

Rich

- -------------------------------------------------
Latest on (musings): reviews (with MP3s) of
new CD releases featuring, among others, John Stevens,
Chris Speed, Dave Douglas, Wayne Horovitz, Bobby Previte,
Francois Houle, Hans Tammen, Keith Tippett, Jerry
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Also Run Ra, John Tchicai, Braxton, Ganelin Trio...

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:01:41 +0100
From: "Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fahey live review

Review of John Fahey last night in Edinburgh is now up at White Noise. Check
the review section under the URL below.

More to come soon.

Scott Russell

White Noise
For experimental events in Scotland
http://www.burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:25:18 -0300
From: Linares Hugo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Off topic/Nederland

Sorry for being off-topic.

This is for Z-listers from The Nederlands.

A friend of mine is now in Nederland and I'd like to know if there's any
decent record store near the Golden Tulip Schiphol Hotel (Kruisweg 495- 2032
NA Hoofddorp) and the Hotel Jan Van Scorel (Heereweg 86- 1871 ED Schoorl),
just to pick up any Zorn/avant/jazz-related stuff.
Please send me any address if possible. And do it privately.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the cross-posting to the rest of the List.

Hugo.

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:57:08 +0400
From: Simon Hopkins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Nederland

>A friend of mine is now in Nederland and I'd like to know if there's any
>decent record store near the Golden Tulip Schiphol Hotel (Kruisweg 495- 2032
>NA Hoofddorp) and the Hotel Jan Van Scorel...

Sorry for another "motion" plug, but this might be useful generally to
Zorn-listers with this sort of enquiry. Try checking out the motion
Specialist Record Shop Finder at:

http://motion.state51.co.uk

Ttfn

Simon



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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:42:19 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Miller theater performances

stephen drury wrote:

> >Ahn Trio
> >Jennfer Choi, violin
> >Eric [sic] Friedlander, cello
> >(a trio of two? dunno. tha's all she wrote)
> >
> Please inform the motherfuckers at the Miller theater that Steve Drury is
> playing piano, along with JennIfer and Erik.  Love to all,

Not just that, but for those who don't follow classical music circles, Steve,
Jennifer and Erik are NOT the Ahn Trio - that's a trio of sisters (also violin,
cello and piano) who presumably are playing the Paul Schoenfield portion of the
program.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Baron/Medeski/Ribot - Encore live at the Knitting Factory MP3


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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:07:28 +1000 (EST)
From: Aaron Chee-Kean Chua <[e-mail]>
Subject: ellington.

with the reissues of a number of Duke Ellington's albums on cd, i was
wondering which albums are the personal favourites of fellow z-list
members ( since the breadth of his output would probably make it
meaningless to ask where a good jumping-on point would be.) i've got a
cheap 2CD comp on KCP(?)( distributed by BMG) but the sound quality isn't
very good.
specifically does anyone have any opinions on the Great Paris Concert 2cd?
apologies if this has already been discussed...

cheers,

aaron
(who apologises for always being a little behind...)


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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:52:39 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Forti Giorgio)
Subject: filmed of John Zorn

Hello..

I'm interested in trade/buy/exchange filmed of John Zorn,
and others...

best regards

[e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:31:47 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ellington.

Aaron Chee-Kean Chua wrote:

> with the reissues of a number of Duke Ellington's albums on cd, i was
> wondering which albums are the personal favourites of fellow z-list
> members ( since the breadth of his output would probably make it
> meaningless to ask where a good jumping-on point would be.)

As a longtime Ellington fan, with about 100 DE cds, I still list the infamous
Fargo, ND concert from 1940 as THE best.  I have the now out of print VJC 2cd
version.  Of course if you really want to dive in, go for the 24 cd RCA box.
Now that's a desert island set if there ever was one.  The notes alone are
priceless, not to mention some of this century's greatest music.  Another
personal favorite of mine is Such Sweet Thunder, which was recently
re-released by Sony with about twice the music as the original.

specifically does anyone have any opinions on the Great Paris Concert 2cd?

I think it's a good mix of warhorses from the DE songbook, standards, a couple
of suites, and lots of extra added material.  Well worth the price, and well
recorded.  Plus a fine edition of the DE orchestra.

Alan Kayser

> apologies if this has already been discussed...
>
> cheers,
>
> aaron
> (who apologises for always being a little behind...)
>
> -


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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:23:22 -0700
From: "Dave Egan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: ellington.

Besides the obvious "Blanton-Webster Years" and "Black, Brown and Beige"
sets on RCA, some of my favorite Ellington is the really early stuff.
"Early Ellington: Complete Brunswick Recordings " (a 3CD box set on GRP) is
excellent and relatively easy to find.  If you can find them, "The Original
Edward 'Duke' Ellington Hits" series on King Jazz are superb.

"Money Jungle" on Blue Note crackles with electricity.  I hear that there
were a lot of sparks flying between Ellington and Mingus in the recording
studio too.

At the other end of his career, Ellington wrote several Sacred Music
Concerts.  Here in Seattle, we have a repertory orchestra that puts on an
annual show of these concerts just before Christmas.  I have a couple of
tapes of these performances which are also some of my favorite Ellington
recordings.

- - Dave

> with the reissues of a number of Duke Ellington's albums on cd, i was
> wondering which albums are the personal favourites of fellow z-list
> members ...


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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:26:48 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ellington.

>Aaron Chee-Kean Chua wrote:
>
> > with the reissues of a number of Duke Ellington's albums on cd, i was
> > wondering which albums are the personal favourites of fellow z-list
> > members ( since the breadth of his output would probably make it
> > meaningless to ask where a good jumping-on point would be.)

I can swear by the FAR EAST SUITE, which was reissued several years ago with
fine sound.  It's a monster, and the band is out of sight.  In one longish
tune featuring cadenzas from Duke on piano, he manages in the course of one
solo cadenza to sound like Keith Jarrett _and_ Cecil Taylor.  Thoroughly
remarkable, and essential listening.  You could, I suppose graduate from
this to cecil taylor's WINGED SERPENTS, which is beautiful nuts.

I love MONEY JUNGLE, from the the same period.  It's a pretty dark trio
session with Duke on piano, Max Roach on drums, and Charles Mingus on bass.
Pantheon lineups can falter, but this record clicks for me.  Their version
of "caravan" is cruel and dark, and the two takes of "solitude" bear no
resemblance to one another.  Mingus is out of control, like Scott LaFaro on
angel dust, at times.

Duke first "comeback" performance is caught on record, live, on ELLINGTON AT
NEWPORT (1955?), which is probably one of the few ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL Duke
records to buy.  Own it!  It swings so hard.  Ellington was once asked how
he felt about the avant-garde, or soe such thing, and he responded, "For the
avant-garde, I have Paul Gonsalves."  Check out the immortal herculean tenor
solo in "Diminuendo and Crescendo in Blue".

Finally, for early Duke, the 3-CD BLANTON-WEBSTER band is universally
recognized as the shit, and worth the investment.  Problem: I don't feel
that way.  I've listened to the thing twice and can't really dig it.  But so
many swear by it, perhaps you should look into it....

Duke was a heavy musical thinker, no doubt.

Alan Kayser wrote:

>As a longtime Ellington fan, with about 100 DE cds,

My god, man!  What on earth....

Kayser's right about SUCH SWEET THUNDER, which he didn't mention was written
specifically for a Shakespeare festival in Stratford, Ontario (I believe).
The reissue is gorgeous and sounds pretty damn good.  Wonderful music, and
worth having.

- -----s

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:51:54 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ellington.

one that I love that rarely gets mentioned is the New Orleans Suite, from the
tail end of his career, 1971. outside of that, I'd also suggest the prime
stuff from around 1940, the 3 CD Blanton/Webster, and the 2 CD Fargo sets.
the recent Columbia reissues are the first new Ellington discs I'd bought in
a long time, and they really did a nice job, espcially with Newport and Such
Sweet Thunder. and lastly, The Great Paris Concert's OK, but you should own
about 20 other Duke discs before you pick this up, unless it's really
super-cheap.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:13:59 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: derek bailey - Guitar, Drum, and bass

I was considering picking up "Guitar, Drum and Bass", however, all of the
press i've read about this album completely slams it. I was wondering if
anyone knew what was so terrible about this album? Is it just because it's
electronic music that bothers people?

from,
matt

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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:38:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Theodorus Klaase)
Subject: Ponga...

I have the Ponga album and I think it falls quite a bit short when
compared to the Pigpen albums.  Those albums not only stand up to
scrutiny but they keep finding their way back into my CD payer... I do
like the Ponga album, but I probably wouldn't buy it again....

...This is just an objective opinion from a musician....


- -Theodorus...


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