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Zorn List Digest      Wednesday, August 25 1999      Volume 02 : Number 748



In this issue:
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       Super String Theory Live @ Tonic 8/21
       Re: King Crimson URL?
       Re: King Crimson URL?
       Re: King Crimson URL?
       RE: King Crimson URL?
       "Cobra"
       Decent Waits Article
       Braxton's Creative Orch on Ring
       Especially Likely Sloth Update
       US edition of "Invisible Jukebox"
       Seattle ?/ Zorn T-shirt
       Re: Seattle ?/ Zorn T-shirt
       For Jazz Collectors & Traders
       Masada index
       Oh the irony
       promo: Erstwhile 001 and 002 now available
       Bobby Previte's The Horse
       sun ra arkestra thursday nyc - charlie parker celebration
       featival information?

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:35:33 -0400
From: David Gross <[e-mail]>
Subject: Super String Theory Live @ Tonic 8/21

Live @ Tonic Saturday August 21st  @ Midnight
107 Norfolk St Between Rivington and Delancey
$4

"SUPER STRING THEORY"
The Guitar Alternatives Orchestra
Concluding the Avant Guitar Festival curated by Dr. Eugene Chadbourne

Bass-Electric & Acoustic
David C Gross
Danny Zanker

Drums
Ravish Momin

Guitar
Angelo Bradford
Citizen One
Don Deering
Bruce Eisenbiel
Gary Heit
Jesse Henry
Ed Littman
Kenta Nagai
On
Evan O'Reilly
Alexander Rastopchin
Jason Roth
Tor Snyder

Vocalinstruments
Kid Lucky


David Gross <[e-mail]>
"a great musician needs to be committed!'
www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/



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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:18:32 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: King Crimson URL?

[e-mail] wrote:

> Anyone have an URL for the downloadable stuff? Sounds like a "get
> 'em while they're hot" deal. Mind you, over a modem line,
> downloading an MP3 album can be as expensive as buying it on
> CD...

http://license.keyconnect.com/wm/dgm/

It's not exactly MP3, it's something smaller and supposedly better called WMA.
On a 28.8 modem connection, it took me six hours to download (I think it took
that long, anyway - I started it up and went to bed).  Anyway, it's a complete
live concert from Mexico City 1996, and I've seen posts from a number of folks
that it's pretty great.  But for some reason I haven't been able to play it yet
on my computer, and am trying to debug my system to get results.  I'll let you
know.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:37:19 -0500
From: King Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: King Crimson URL?

>http://license.keyconnect.com/wm/dgm/
>
>It's not exactly MP3, it's something smaller and supposedly better called WMA.
>On a 28.8 modem connection, it took me six hours to download (I think it took
>that long, anyway - I started it up and went to bed).  Anyway, it's a complete
>live concert from Mexico City 1996, and I've seen posts from a number of folks
>that it's pretty great.  But for some reason I haven't been able to play
>it yet
>on my computer, and am trying to debug my system to get results.  I'll let you
>know.


  It's in Windows Media format, of which there are no Mac players.
I was really looking forward to hearing it, till I noticed that.....



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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:27:55 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: King Crimson URL?

King Wilson wrote:

>   It's in Windows Media format, of which there are no Mac players.
> I was really looking forward to hearing it, till I noticed that.....

Well, if it's of any consolation, the DGM team claims to be making it a priority to
find out how to make their files available to Mac users as well (and as a dedicated
follower and Collector's Club subscriber I tend to believe them).

On the other hand, as a Windows-wiper of some years now, and, having uninstalled
and reinstalled and reinstalled and reinstalled again my Netscape browser and doing
anything else that came to mind, I still can't get the damn thing to play, and will
still presumably pay dearly come phone bill time...

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:09:31 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joaqu=EDn_Villaverde_Mart=EDnez?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: King Crimson URL?

Hello

Try this

http://wmcontent.keyconnect.com/WM/content/F11AF6C1-4B59-11D3-9E6E-000629501
E85/04EFB40F-4E02-11D3-BF18-000629502413/WMS_RM_FILTER/KingCrimsonLiveInMexi
coCity.wma

It is long, but it works with getright.

Please note: that the file size is 31 megas.

Joaquφn Villaverde
NP: Marty Ehrlich: Just before the dawn

> > Through Discipline Global Mobile, Fripp is distributing archival
material
> > in several different tiers. Some are distributed through the usual
record
> > stores, others through mail and Web order, another group only via a
> > Collector's Club, and, as of a few days ago, some live recordings
> > downloadable (for free now, though later ones will be for pay) from the
> > Web.
>
> Anyone have an URL for the downloadable stuff? Sounds like a "get
> 'em while they're hot" deal. Mind you, over a modem line,
> downloading an MP3 album can be as expensive as buying it on
> CD...
>
> Rich




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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Walton <[e-mail]>
Subject: "Cobra"

Can someone please give me a description of Zorn's
"Cobra" on CD?

Thanks
Jason Walton

===
Nothing / Eibon Records America
P.O. Box 14121
Minneapolis, MN 55414
[e-mail]
http://www.mythosmedia.com/nothing
http://www.thais.it/eibon
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com


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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:44:34 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Decent Waits Article

The world catches up with Tom Waits, at long last

CARL WILSON
The Globe and Mail
Saturday, August 21, 1999


Toronto -- Like prostitutes, tattoos, faraway countries and bloodshot
moons, delusions of stardom have been among Tom Waits's recurring motifs
ever since he was fronting piano trios in scuzzy Hollywood hotels in the
early 1970s.

There was Andr=E9, the pianist who "coulda been in Casablanca -- stood in
line out there all day" on the 1976 album Small Change. Frank, the Willy
Loman-ish lead of Waits's 1987 stage musical Frank's Wild Years, starts off
singing about "going straight to the top," and ends up irredeemably far
from home. On 1993's Bone Machine, some would-be Brando brags, "I don't
need no makeup, I've got real scars. . . . I'm goin' out West where they'll
appreciate me."

And now Mule Variations, Waits's first studio album in six years, opens
with another pseud crowing, "Heh, I'm big in Japan!"

Waits, who plays two sold-out gigs at Toronto's Hummingbird Centre on
Monday and Tuesday, has joked that his own ambitions were removed, like a
cyst, "by a surgeon in Buffalo." Yet his career once seemed all too
parallel to the ne'er-do-wells in his musical yarns.

It was worst early on, when bottles and jeers were pitched at him on tours
opening for Frank Zappa. But even by the release of Bone Machine -- when
his cult girdled the world, and critics and fellow musicians (Elvis
Costello, Keith Richards, Johnny Cash) sang praises -- Waits's dense
wordplay, postmodern jazz and sandpaper-and-bourbon voice remained
unwelcome in the mainstream.

In interviews, he complained of "the ballistics of radio, where you're
constantly reminded that the bullet must fit the chamber. They're striving
for an American Rifle Association that creates this whole blue-metal
network of sameness."

Waits didn't fit, so his record deals repeatedly backfired. And except for
Bruce Springsteen's solid take on Jersey Girl, his songs only reached the
public drained of their vital juices, whether by the Eagles (Ol' 55, 1974),
Rod Stewart (Downtown Train, 1989) or Holly Cole (who did an all-Waits
album in 1995).

But then something funny happened. This spring, when Mule Variations was
released on Epitaph, an indie label better known for punk bands such as the
Offspring, it was received as the event of the year. Store windows were
plastered with posters. A live preview in March at the South by Southwest
festival saw celebrities fighting for seats. Mule Variations entered the
Billboard chart at No. 30, as if in tribute to the nearly 30 years he took
to get there. And tickets for his current limited tour of North America,
his first since 1987, are vanishing, as Waits might sing it, faster than
dreams.

Of course, it's not all that sudden. The first step came with Waits's
eighties trilogy -- Swordfishtrombones, Raindogs and Frank's Wild Years --
which seemed a radical break with the gravel-voiced, drunken hobo who
played piano like Thelonious Monk and wrote like Cole Porter possessed by
Kerouac. The new songs spanned gutbucket blues, salvage-yard clanks, Asian
and African exotica, sea shanties, and the acerbic theatricalism of Brecht
and Weill.

In fact, these elements had been lurking at least since 1978's Blue
Valentines, the album with the back-cover shot of then-girlfriend Rickie
Lee Jones. But no one noticed until Waits jettisoned his
piano-and-orchestra arrangements altogether ("Strings get like linoleum
after awhile -- easy to clean, but . . .") and took up the punk-rock notion
that the most creative leaps are made on instruments you don't know how to
play.

Waits's life had changed, too. And just in time. He quit drinking and
smoking, married and had kids with a woman named Kathleen Brennan, whom he
met on the set of his mega-flop movie musical with Francis Ford Coppola,
One from the Heart. Perhaps superstitiously, he wouldn't discuss it at the
time, but in recent interviews he gives Brennan full credit for challenging
both his film-noir pretensions and his musical complacency. They write
together, and even the new album's title is based on his wife's jibe, "I
didn't marry a man, I married a mule."

Meanwhile, his new audience was spreading the word. Film roles and
soundtracks (Jim Jarmusch's indie classic Down by Law, with Roberto
Benigni, Robert Altman's Short Cuts, the Dead Man Walking soundtrack) kept
Waits in the public eye even when he was off in Germany doing his opera The
Black Rider with director Robert Wilson.

The movie of his last tour, Big Time, exposed neophytes to his incendiary
stage antics and absurdist shaggy-dog tales ("Wherever I go, people ask me
one question: 'Tom, is it possible for a woman to get pregnant without
intercourse?' My answer is always the same: 'We're gonna have to go all the
way back to the Civil War on this one . . .' ") And young stars like Beck,
P.J. Harvey, Tricky and Portishead told their fans of his influence.

No wonder, then, that such a crowd was waiting when he suddenly strolled
back into view in the year of his 50th birthday. Even if, when asked, he
claims that he's spent the intervening years at "traffic school" for unpaid
parking tickets.

The new record has a mature, domestic feel, without the posturing of the
gifted young misfit or the insistent innovations of the trilogy. He just
pulls whatever he needs off his vast palette. The results sum up not only
his own career but American music in general, from country and blues in the
aching Pony or the anthemic Hold On,to industrial clatter and a DJ's
turntables on Filipino Box Spring Hog.

What hasn't changed, since Martha in 1973, is his ability to write songs
that seem to have existed forever, standards that were just waiting for Tom
Waits to come along and find them. The difference is that now the world,
too, knows where to look.




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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:37:27 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Braxton's Creative Orch on Ring

Other Music has a copy of Braxton's box set on Ring (from 1971, I
think?) for sale for $45. If I've ever heard anything from this, it's
long since vanished from my memory. Can anyone give a description of the
pieces contained herein, are they more in his "contemporary classical"
mode, jazzy mode, march music, etc.? Anally collective as I may be about
his work, if it's closer to 'For 4 Orchestras' than either the Koln or
Arista Creative Orchestra releases, I can give it a pass. Thanks.

Brian Olewnick
NP (what else?) Braxton, Quartet (Santa Cruz) 1993.

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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:43:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Walton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Especially Likely Sloth Update

The Sloth website has been improved and updated.  It
is now easier to read, has more pictures, and a new
lyrics section.  Dont forget to sign the guestbook.

Jason Walton
and
Chriss Cobb

===
Nothing / Eibon Records America
P.O. Box 14121
Minneapolis, MN 55414
[e-mail]
http://www.mythosmedia.com/nothing
http://www.thais.it/eibon
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com


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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:22:56 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: US edition of "Invisible Jukebox"

I read in The Wire that the US edition of "Invisible Jukebox" would be
expanded or something; however what I find listed on Amazon isn't clear
whether it really is or if it's just a UK import.  Does anybody know before
I order it through my local independent bookstore?

LT
- ----------------------------------------------
Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4

Full Alert Film Review (formerly World Cinema Review)
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm


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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:40:44 +0200
From: Yves Dewulf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Seattle ?/ Zorn T-shirt

Hello zornies,

Any recommendations on record-shops in the Seattle-area, or
any concerts over there between 5 and 18 sept.
Please, reply off-list.

Also, Does anybody know the meaning of the hebrew text on the
T-shirt of Zorn (see for instance the photos of the Jazziz-article.)
It seems that he has changed his orange one for a pink one, at least
for the Masada concert in Middelheim, Antwerp.

Thanx,
YVes




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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:34:47 -0700 (MST)
From: Corey Marc Fogel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Seattle ?/ Zorn T-shirt

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Yves Dewulf wrote:

> Also, Does anybody know the meaning of the hebrew text on the
> T-shirt of Zorn (see for instance the photos of the Jazziz-article.)
> It seems that he has changed his orange one for a pink one, at least
> for the Masada concert in Middelheim, Antwerp.

abra cadabra

supposedly



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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:30:00 +0200
From: infolit <[e-mail]>
Subject: For Jazz Collectors & Traders

Please visit this new site for Jazz Collectors & Traders:
<http://www.litinfo.lt/jazz/jazz_home.htm>


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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:47:40 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joaqu=EDn_Villaverde_Mart=EDnez?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Masada index

Hello

I am starting a web page with an index of Masada┤s compositions. If someone
is interested can visit at this url:

http://personal2.redestb.es/j-villaverde/index.htm

Joaquφn Villaverde


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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:46:14 -0400
From: Mark Saleski <[e-mail]>
Subject: Oh the irony

i'm not making this up.

here's a snippet of Wynton Marsalis responding to a question in an Utne
Reader interview. check out the very last sentence of his response.

Q: What's wrong with the music on the radio?

A: The same music is on the radio all over the world, and the American
sound is overwhelming. Even the pop music that's produced and created in
foreign countries has that American beat, that underscore of funk. >>>
As a musician, I'm not interested in hearing recycled version of the
same genre over and over. <<<


huh???


- --
Mark Saleski - [e-mail]
Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace.
- --Dalai Lama



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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:22:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: promo: Erstwhile 001 and 002 now available

sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive
more than one copy of this:

I'm proud to announce the release of the first two CDs on my label, Erstwhile
Records.

erstwhile 001: VHF/Extracts

Graham Halliwell - alto saxophone, percussion
Simon H. Fell - double bass
Simon Vincent - drums, tone generator

"VHF utilise the classic line up of the power free jazz trio, but use
their resources to achieve very different ends - producing a quiet
introspective music which nevertheless crackles with circumvented
energy. This trio are actively expounding a new vocabulary for these
instruments - an intense, involving experience."-Richard
Sanderson

7 tracks, 52 minutes.

erstwhile 002: Haunted House/Up In Flames

Loren MazzaCane Connors - guitar
Suzanne Langille - vocals
Andrew Burnes - guitar
Neel Murgai - Persian daf

3 tracks, 56 minutes. all recorded live at the Cooler earlier this year.

there will be a CD release party for the Haunted House disc this Sunday,
8/29, at 7 PM at Downtown Music Gallery, 211 E. 5th St, NYC. the band will
perform, and free champagne will be served. also, copies of both CDs will be
available for 10 dollars cash.

both of these CDs will be available through Forced Exposure within a week or
two. also, these and all future Erstwhile releases can be purchased via mail
order:

$13 US each postpaid within the United States
$14 US each postpaid to Canada
$16 US each postpaid overseas

all payments must be made in US funds. cash and money orders shipped
immediately. mail cash at your own risk. shipments paid for with checks held
until they clear. please send your order to:

Erstwhile Records
189 Christopher Columbus Dr.
Apt. #4
Jersey City, NJ 07302

thanks for reading.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:00:56 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bobby Previte's The Horse

Did anyone get to hear Bobby Previte's The Horse on Saturday night at
the 14th Street Y in NYC.  Please contact me privately.

Thanks


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:01:43 -0400
From: "lava" <[e-mail]>
Subject: sun ra arkestra thursday nyc - charlie parker celebration

art installation called House of Blue Lights, an art
> exhibit, etc. 6pm entry, show hits at 7pm, in garden so get there early to
> get a spot--half-hour set--$10 suggested donation, cash bar. DJ
afterwards.

> > 212 674 3778 info
> > festival of the birds
> > tribes gallery 285 e 3rd street / c & d
>
> http://home.switchboard.com/jqr
>
>



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:35:45 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <[e-mail]>
Subject: featival information?

Please forgive the crosspost.  I'm looking for information on music
festivals of any reasonably new variety (jazz, electronica,
electroacoustic, ambient, experimental, etc.) taking place during the last
two weeks of September, in  Europe, Canary Islands, etc.  Please email me
privately with info and preferably web sites.

Thanks.


- --
Caleb Deupree
[e-mail]

It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing.  There is more
than one way to conquer a country.

- -- Raymond Chandler

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