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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #682
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Zorn List Digest Saturday, June 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 682
In this issue:
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Re: dumped LPs bought CDs
Man's Soul - Duets in NYC this Sunday, 6/20
Re: played least
Yankees details
Boredoms
Re: Dead weight - was record collections
Bill Frisell discography
Re: Taylor's new 4
Nop Music
Re: Taylor's new 4
Steve Lacy
Re: Steve Lacy
Re: Steve Lacy
Re: Steve Lacy
Re: Steve Lacy
Whadda ya MEAN Zorn?
Re: Whadda ya MEAN Zorn?
Re: Steve Lacy
DAVID DUNN
Re: DAVID DUNN
Re: DAVID DUNN
Avant Records Website?
Re: Avant Records Website?
Jef Lee Johnson & David C Gross at the Knitting Factory 6/23
Re: played least
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:19:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: dumped LPs bought CDs
Because I held on to the vinyl world for such a long time that I was even
able to replace as reissues LPs I initially dumped, I only have two
candidates:
1)Jimmy Giufre's Free Fall (CBS) with Paul Bley and Steve Swallow. Since it
came out in 1963, when I was a 14-year-old who had only been involved
with jazz for about a year, I found the disc too cold, too abstract and
too minimalist for my tastes. Now with many more years of listening and
appreciating I can hear it as the progenitor of a whole school that
stretches from Joe Maneri to Evan Parker to a clutch of other North
American and European improv types. (And it comes with five additional
tracks).
2)Paul Bley Barrage (ESP-Disk) with Marshall Allen, Milford Graves, Dewey
Johnson, Eddie Gomez. In retrospect, I quite liked the record. But when
you've 15 and need the money to see the Thelonious Monk Quartet at Place
Des Arts, why not sell the Bley to your friend who bought the New York Art
Quartet
at the same time. (Unfortunately when you've 15, you can only also afford
second balcony seats, so I only recall "seeing" the tiny blurred
figures of Monk and Charlie Rouse etc. from my pearch). Barrage on CD is
great, but it isn't printed in red and white as it was on the original
cover. And I'm one of the few people who can never see Michael Snow's
famous "Waling Woman", which is pictured on the cover, without thinking
of Carla Bley, who wrote all the tunes on Barrage.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
> Here's another thread: vinyl we dumped, then bought back on CD. My lead
> candidate on the plus side: Trout Mask Replica.
>
> --
> Caleb Deupree
> cdeupree@erinet.com
>
> Computers are useless; they can only give you answers
> -- Pablo Picasso
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:26:55 EDT
From: JoLaMaSoul@aol.com
Subject: Man's Soul - Duets in NYC this Sunday, 6/20
This Sunday, June 20th,1999
(7:00 pm, $7 admission)
@ Saint Peters Church, 619 Lexington Ave, NYC
JONATHAN LAMASTER (violin)/JOHN BLUM (piano) DUO
will be appearing at:
MAN'S SOUL - a collage of music, dance and spoken word
currated by William Hooker
Featuring thomas stanley(d.c.), jonathan lamaster (ma), john blum, sabir
mateen, makiko oka, charles compo, jesse henry, lewis barnes, mark hennen,
tor snyder, and william hooker...
all in duets.
info 212-935-2200
Pianist John Blum played a sublime set at this years (4th Annual) Vision
Festival with drummer and Cecil Taylor alumnist Jacskon Krall and tuba player
Joseph Daley. The notes inside the festival schedule describe him as "a
pianist with a knack for making complex creative statements with physical and
intellectual drive".
Violinist Jonathan LaMaster also appeared at this years Vision Festival with
his group The Saturnalia String Quartet accompanying free blowing
multi-instrumentalist Daniel Carter. LaMaster and Blum met up one afternoon
during the Festival for a searing jam session, organized by Philly reed and
flute monster Elliott Levin and also including drummer Ryan Sawyer. This
performance will mark their first duo outing.
http://www.sublingual.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:05:54 -0400
From: Otis Wheeler <owheeler@javanet.com>
Subject: Re: played least
>The earlier Tzadik releases, while, visually speaking, abstractly
>beautiful, left something to be desired in terms of information
>design (yeah, I'm an interface junkie...). But they can't top the
>Tony Conrad album I've whined about earlier, with its thin green
>print on a red background (or was it the other way around?). It's
>like inverse Jiffy Pop: as little fun to read as it is to hear.
Are you talking about Slapping Pythagoras? My copy has thin red print
on a gold background, quite easy to read, unfortunately. I'd actually
prefer a copy where all that bollocks was illegible. I'll have to
disagree with the Jiffy Pop analogy, by the way - I find it quite a
delightful listen. 'Tis a much more interesting take on noise than
Merzbow, methinks.
Regards,
Otis
- -
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:48:15 +0200
From: "johnrust" <johnrust@blinx.de>
Subject: Yankees details
John Zorn/Derek Bailey/George Lewis - Yaankees
CD No. is CELD 5006,Cass No. is CELC 5006,
1992 Celluloid NY,
Made in Holland,
Executive Producer: John T. Matarazzo
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:39:31 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Boredoms
just a brief report on the "unannounced" Boredoms show at CBGB's this past
Tuesday night.
they now have three drummers, up from two the last time I saw them a few
years back, and they were playing songs in the Super AE (push those letters
together on your screen for me, please) style, long, percussion-propelled
jams that many critics seem to like to label as "Krautrock-style". it sounded
a lot closer to Hawkwind or the Grateful Dead to me, especially in the tone
of the guitar. plus, I found it fairly unfunky, which I suppose isn't
surprising when you have one bassist trying to keep up with three drummers.
Eye was singing his lungs out, but I think he felt a bit constrained by the
small space he had to move around in.
don't get me wrong, there were parts of it that I was jumping up and down, on
the verge of moshing, but not nearly as many as I expected. Douglas Wolk
called their concert at the Seaport "numbing" in this week's Voice and I'd
have to concur.
and if you haven't heard yet, Cecil Taylor's playing some NYC shows at the
end of June with his new quartet, which includes Paul Lovens. I know I'm
pretty excited.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:23:50 EDT
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dead weight - was record collections
In a message dated 6/16/99 8:28:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cdeupree@erinet.com writes:
<< Here's another thread: vinyl we dumped, then bought back on CD. My lead
candidate on the plus side: Trout Mask Replica. >>
Weather Report- Black Market (I went through a non-funky phase a while
back...i'm better now...)
spinning: Bugskull- Distracted Snowflake Vol.2
=dgasque=
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:38:16 +0200
From: "Artur Nowak" <arno@silesia.top.pl>
Subject: Bill Frisell discography
Hi Philozorners,
for those of you who like the music of Bill Frisell I prepared an update of
his discography, It contains new entries, but also better (I hope)
frontpage, which will help you find the info you need, also the
incompatibility with Netscape browser is removed. Please note that the url
changed too: http://www.emd.pl
I'd like to thank to all contributors (many of them from this list) for the
provided information and support :-)
Looking forward to your feedback
Artur
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:52:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Taylor's new 4
Jon:
Who else is in CT's "new quatrtet". Heard any rumors of him touring?
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:12:48 +0700
From: ChiniJi <ChiniJi@ThePentagon.Com>
Subject: Nop Music
Hello everybody and sorry for this X-post,
I would like to tell you guy a cool web site.
It's web site of Thai modern jazz musician, Nop Music.
Url is http://nopmusic.hypermart.net
The site featuring album info., MP3-realaudio sound clip and more !
Take a look at it.
Best Regards,
ChiniJi.
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:01:42 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Taylor's new 4
<<Who else is in CT's "new quatrtet". Heard any rumors of him touring?>>
here's the info I have on the Cecil Taylor shows:
- -------------------------------------------
The new quartet consists of
FMP all-star drummer Paul Lovens, bassist Teppo Hauta-aho and soprano
saxist Harri Sjostrom.
Cecil Taylor and the Desperados: "Lambent on La Luna's Spatulate"
[poetry, solo piano, and quartet]
According to the information I have the concerts will take place at Angel
Orensanz Center (172 Norfolk Street: 1 block south of Essex Street and a
half block south of Houston Street opposite Avenue A).
There are three dates - Tuesday June 29th, Wednesday June 30th, and
Thursday July 1st - with two sets each night at 8pm and 10pm.
Tickets are $20 in advance and $23 at the door. Advance tickets are
available cash only at Downtown Music Gallery (212.473.0043) and Other
Music (212.477.8150). Or you can charge via Ticket Web (212.269.4TIX or
www.ticketweb.com).
- ---------------------------------------------
Jon
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:09:23 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: Steve Lacy
What are everyone's favorite Steve Lacy albums? I've got about a
half-dozen but don't feel like I've quite hit it with him as a
band-leader. So far, the best shit I've heard him do is on Mal Waldron's
'Hard Talk'... Anyway, looking for suggestions.
listening to: Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Herb Alpert Presents (A&M).
Hell yeah!
-Tom Pratt
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:18:09 -0700
From: s~Z <mcmullenm@vcss.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Steve Lacy
149 - THE GLEAM: Steve Lacy Sextet
1/ Gay Paree Bop 9:00
2/ Napping (take 1) 8:57
3/ The Gleam 7:00
4/ As Usual 12:12
5/ Keepsake 10:22
6/ Napping (take 2) 9:20
Recorded at Sound Ideas Studio, NY, July 16-18, 1986
Steve Lacy: soprano; Steve Potts: alto, soprano; Irene Aebi: vocals,
violin;
Bobby Few: piano; Jean-Jacques Avenel: bass; Oliver Johnson: drums.
1987 - Silkheart, SHLP-102 (LP)
1987 - Silkheart, SHCD-102 (CD)
Note: (6) is only available on the CD edition.
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:53:31 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Steve Lacy
In a message dated 6/18/99 7:09:39 PM, tpratt@ctech.smtc.net writes:
<< What are everyone's favorite Steve Lacy albums? I've got about a
half-dozen but don't feel like I've quite hit it with him as a
band-leader. >>
I'm not a huge Lacy fan, but the two that I do really like are both on Hat
Art, School Days and Morning Joy. both of these, I believe, are unfortunately
deleted, although the June Cadence lists Morning Joy still.
go Knicks!
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:05:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: benjamin elliot axelrad <beaxelra@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Steve Lacy
My favorites are _Songs_ on hatART, _Packet_ on New Albion, and _Vespers_
on Soul Note. _Songs_ is a bunch of Brion Gysin poems set to music,
featuring BG on a couple of tracks. _Packet_ is much more dark and
emotionally involving, I think the most beautiful disc Lacy has put out.
It features Irene Aebi on vocals and Frederic Rzewski (!) on piano.
_Vespers_ is a song cycle of poems by a Bulgarian woman (I can't recall
her name). It's quite good and has really amazing performances by Rickey
Ford and Tom Varner. If I had to pick one I'd go for _Packet_
What do you all think of _The Cry_?
Ben
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/18/99 7:09:39 PM, tpratt@ctech.smtc.net writes:
>
> << What are everyone's favorite Steve Lacy albums? I've got about a
> half-dozen but don't feel like I've quite hit it with him as a
> band-leader. >>
>
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:12:06 -0400
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Steve Lacy
Speaking of which....For those willing to travel about 40 miles north
of NYC, with some disposable income.....Lacy will be playing with
Jacques Anenal, John Betsch, AND Roswell Rudd at the Caramoor
Festival this July 31st. Also appearing will be Sphere, The Cedar
Walton Trio, Andrew Hill and Shirley Horn. Caramoor is a gorgeous
old estate in Northern Westchester mostly known for classical
concerts.
Further info at www.caramoor.com/music/jazz/index.html
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Santamaria <d028932c@dc.seflin.org>
Subject: Whadda ya MEAN Zorn?
Well hello there everyone, I've never posted on list before, and actually
I haven't been reading it either. But, I do wish to ask a bit of advice
from all you Zorn Fiends out there.
I'am a relative newcomer to Zorn's music, a fresh face, a young suckling
pig..... The sole album I posses is The Big Gundown and I am quite
pleased with it; however, it does not satisfy, its a paltry beginning. I
want
more, I only find questions in the music, "Who is this, What is this,
why? What are all these noises?" So, besides the obvious, help a chap
out......
Prompt: "Where the Zorn do I Start?"
Analyze this statement, providing evidence from literature,
history, the arts, and personal experiance.
| |
| == + ===
| _ +
___ | | | +++++ -----
- + + . |
+ + . |
Your Grandpa's cane, it turns into a sword
Your Grandma prays to pictures that are pasted on a board
-B. D.
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:38:34 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Whadda ya MEAN Zorn?
> Prompt: "Where the Zorn do I Start?"
Read the FAQ, Zorn's various styles are covered pretty well there. But
basically pick up a major album like Naked City or Spillane, and take it
from there...
- -
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:56:25 -0400
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Steve Lacy
s~Z wrote:
>
> 149 - THE GLEAM: Steve Lacy Sextet
>
> 1/ Gay Paree Bop 9:00
> 2/ Napping (take 1) 8:57
> 3/ The Gleam 7:00
> 4/ As Usual 12:12
> 5/ Keepsake 10:22
> 6/ Napping (take 2) 9:20
>
> Recorded at Sound Ideas Studio, NY, July 16-18, 1986
>
> Steve Lacy: soprano; Steve Potts: alto, soprano; Irene Aebi: vocals,
> violin;
> Jean-Jacques Avenel: bass; Oliver Johnson: drums.
>
Bobby Few: piano;
I interviewed William Parker today (Malachi Favors, Roscoe Mitchell,
Parker, and Louis Sclavis in one day) and he mentioned Bobby Few. I'd
never even heard of him, let alone heard him. Can anybody tell me
anything about Few? I didn't ask Parker because it wasn't a really
important point, and he kept getting interrupted by incoming calls.
- --Mike
NP: Akosh S. Unit: Imafa (Wicked!)
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:10:36 -0400
From: "Heather and Jeff" <hijk@gateway.net>
Subject: DAVID DUNN
For those of you in New York City that knew David Dunn, writer/poet/Jazz
lover I hate to have to tell you that he passed away on Friday June 18th.
Some of his close friends are trying to put together a memorial for him
sometime next week. Dave was very close with a number of influential
musicians including Charles Gayle and David Murray, just to name a couple.
If you or someone you know is interested in participating in the memorial
please contact me ASAP at either of these numbers:
Over the weekend - (201)714-7704 - hijk@gateway.net
Monday-Friday - (212)824-0321 - jefken@muze.com
Thanks for your help.
Jeff Kent
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:42:27 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: DAVID DUNN
On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 08:10:36AM -0400, Heather and Jeff wrote:
> For those of you in New York City that knew David Dunn, writer/poet/Jazz
> lover I hate to have to tell you that he passed away on Friday June 18th.
Is this the same person as the New Mexico-based composer ("Music,
Language and Environment", "Angels and Insects", etc)?
- --
| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/~jzitt |
| Latest Solo CD: Gentle Entropy http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
| Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List |
| Next Comma Performance: June 19, 6 PM, Art-O-Matic, Washington, DC |
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:09:35 -0400
From: "Heather and Jeff" <hijk@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: DAVID DUNN
>Is this the same person as the New Mexico-based composer ("Music,
>Language and Environment", "Angels and Insects", etc)?
No, sorry.
JK
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:46:12 -0400
From: "Zachary J. Griffin" <zgriffin@iconn.net>
Subject: Avant Records Website?
Hello,
Is there a website for Avant Records?
Zach
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:02:26 -0300
From: "J.A.Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: Re: Avant Records Website?
Don`t think so , but there`s a catalog at
http://www.DTMGallery.com/
Antonio
"Zachary J. Griffin" wrote:
> Hello,
> Is there a website for Avant Records?
>
> Zach
>
> -
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:21:33 -0400
From: theorcolus <theorcolus@earthlink.net>
Subject: Jef Lee Johnson & David C Gross at the Knitting Factory 6/23
Just a note to let you know that Jef is out on the road and filling in
for him will be Alexander Rastopchin on guitar. Hope some of you can
make it!
David C Gross
www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773
The Knitting Factory presents in the "Old Office"
74 Leonard St.
212-219-3006
June 23rd 1999 8 PM & 9:30 PM
Charles Burnham-violin
Lance Carter-drums
David C Gross-6 string fretless bass,electronics/loops
Jef Lee Johnson-guitar
"This is some far out funk!"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:05:00 -0400
From: "wetboy" <sulacco@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: played least
cd played least:
- - joe piscopo: new jersey
not often played, and (technically) a zorn(related) cd
- -----Original Message-----
From: Stephane Vuilleumier <vuilleumier@micro.biol.ethz.ch>
To: zorn <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: played least
>I think it's a good idea to stick to Zorn records -
>there are enough of them that fit the bill anyway!
>I'll come back when I have my list of ten.
>
>Stephane
>-----Original Message-----
>From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com <XRedbirdxx@aol.com>Joseph
>To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 1999 10:51
>Subject: played least
>
>
>:
>:<< Anyone care to indulge a thread about records/discs they own that get
>:played
>: the least? >>
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