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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #671
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, June 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 671
In this issue:
-
Re: The $4.95 CD brou-ha-ha...
Jeanne Lee Morgan
Re: wha's with primus?
Re: wha's with primus?
Small Laswell Sale ...
more cheap CD site information
Re: more cheap CD site information
Re: OP Braxton
Re: more cheap CD site information
Re: more cheap CD site information
Re: more cheap CD site information
Blind Idiot God
Re: more cheap CD site information
new yorker interview
Re: more cheap CD site information
Re: new yorker interview
Haino Keiji opinions
Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #670
mail order
White Noise update
New Yorker Interview
Re: New Yorker Interview
touring French "jazz" bands
Re: Haino Keiji opinions
LP auction - some Zorn content, mostly free jazz/avant garde
Parachute
Re: Parachute
New Yorker article
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:22:19 -0500
From: nils <jacobson@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: The $4.95 CD brou-ha-ha...
Rick Lopez <bb10k@velocity.net> wrote:
> Here ya go:
>
> http://www.myshopnow.com/kellym/
One small correction: the real site is
http://www.myshopnow.com/
from which you can create your own store (thus the postfix), which
allows some kind of payback discount-type thing. kelly m is gonna get
rich off of all the zorn-listers hitting this place.
- -
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:28:39 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com (Martin Wisckol)
Subject: Jeanne Lee Morgan
Jeanne Lee is listed (after Ran Blake) as co-leader on an exceedingly
pleasant CD called "You Stepped OUt of a Cloud." Owl Records c. 1989,
no idea of current availability (but always interested in tape swaps --
right now, I have particular hankerings for a good copy of Braxton's
Arista Creative Orchestra Music and for his Dortmund Quartet 1976 -- I
can also offer Braxton first two Aristas and several other good
out-of-print Ran Blakes -- and I'm looking for various Masadas and as
always looking for surprises).
But back to Black/Lee. All piano/vocal duets. 14 cuts, four originals.
A handful of standards recast significantly. Two Monk cuts, including
Jeanne singing Gertrude STein's "Rose" to Mysterioso. Jobim's
"Corcovado." The album is dedicated to "Constantin Brancusi (1876-1957)
and all the fine old cannibals of mittel European formalism."
Also of note is Andrew Cyrille/Jeanne Lee/Jimmy Lyons "Nuba" on Black
Saint, altho this makes it on my player less than the above.
Thanks to all for the response on my Lee Morgan inquiries. Picked up a
brand-spankin new copy of "Last Session" on sale at Tower this weekend
and chucked the Memorex tape straight into the trash.
Martin
np Bootsy Collins-- Straight out of P University
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:22:44 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: wha's with primus?
> I was into Primus for, oh, about three weeks two years ago. There was
something
> I liked about them, but in the end I decided their cartooniness was too
sterile
> for me. Since then, they've hired Brain as their new drummer, have
Buckethead
> touring with them in the Ozzfest (is that a permanent addition, does
anyone
> know?) and played on several tracks on Mule Variations. And now I see
that Waits
> is recording with them for their next record! Am I missing something, or
does
> the cool guys just hang out with them cause they've got good snacks or
> something?
Well they are three (or four if you also include Tim Alexander, ex-drummer)
pretty amazing musicians. They don't seem out of place with Tom Waits (and
I'll just point out if you didn't already know that they have worked
together before, on Sailing The Seas Of Cheese and on Bone Machine). I see
any cartooniness in Primus as a pretty damn dark one (listen to the
Residents, major influence on Primus)...
Just to be picky, I think they only play one track on Mule Variations...
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:20:42 -0400
From: "Heather and Jeff" <hijk@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: wha's with primus?
>Well they are three (or four if you also include Tim Alexander, ex-drummer)
>pretty amazing musicians.
Don't forget about Sausage the pre-Primus Primus with Jay Lane and Todd
Huth. As Les says, "Primus does suck this is true, but Sausage is merely
mediocre."
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:08:50 -0400
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Small Laswell Sale ...
Hello ...
I have the following *as new* Laswell related items up
for grabs, first come, first served ...
Prices are in _US $_ and are POSTAGE PAID within NA.
Shipping on orders outside NA can be arranged.
If you don't like the prices, please make me an OFFER.
# Azonic - "Halo" US CD (Subharmonic/Strata 0002-2) 1994 $10
[Andy Hawkins & Gabe Katz of Blind Idiot God prod. by Laswell]
# Chaos Face - "Doom Ride" US CD (Subharmonic SD 7004-2) 1995 $10
[Laswell w/ Musso, Mick Harris & Shin Terai (vocals) & Peter Wetherbee]
# Material - "The Third Power" US CD (Axiom) 1991 $8
even more stuff at:
http://www.astro.utoronto.ca/~carey/sofa/sale.html
Thanks for looking.
- -Patrick
pm.carey@utoronto.ca
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:54:01 EDT
From: JKlein2373@aol.com
Subject: more cheap CD site information
Hello,
For anyone that is interested, the site selling CDs for $4.95 - and yes, now
orders are limited to five per order - is simply:
www.myshopnow.com
That's it. Any suffix to the URL is essentially a money-making scheme for
whoever has their name tagged on (the site explains this process). But that's
besides the point. Go to the site, click on the ad for the CDs, and search
away: their Zorn product is pretty remarkable and, honestly, it was the way I
knew the store was no scam. What fly by night operation would take the time
to list every Zorn release, when Ricky Martin is all it takes to draw in the
suckers?
Anyway, from what they told me myshopnow.com is selling overstock, so some
titles may be limited but all are legit.
Josh
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:15:14 +0200
From: "Stephane Vuilleumier" <vuilleumier@micro.biol.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: more cheap CD site information
I know about Zorn, but who's Ricky Martin?
Does he also get "New Yorker" interviews?
Stephane
- -----Original Message from Josh-----
From: JKlein2373@aol.com <JKlein2373@aol.com>
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, 8 June 1999 15:57
Subject: more cheap CD site information
:What fly by night operation would take the time
:to list every Zorn release, when Ricky Martin is all it takes to draw in the
:suckers?
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:11:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: OP Braxton
Martin (and others):
Here in Toronto, at least, deleted copies of Braxton's COM 1976 and the
Montreux/Berlin concerts were floating around for $6.99 (Can.) each at
least until about a month ago.
If Arista dumped 'em here, I'm sure they did the same in the U.S.
Check your local delete bins. (Or is this one of the very few benefits
Canadians got outta the NAFTA?)
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Martin Wisckol wrote:
> I have particular hankerings for a good copy of Braxton's
> Arista Creative Orchestra Music and for his Dortmund Quartet 1976 -- I
> can also offer Braxton first two Aristas and several other good
> out-of-print Ran Blakes -- and I'm looking for various Masadas and as
> always looking for surprises).
>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:42:49 EDT
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Subject: Re: more cheap CD site information
In a message dated 6/8/99 9:58:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
JKlein2373@aol.com writes:
>
> Anyway, from what they told me myshopnow.com is selling overstock, so some
> titles may be limited but all are legit.
Overstock of the entire Tzadik catalog??
It just doesnt make any sense. (Although that didnt stop me from placing an
order). What I was curious about was the "manufactured by K-Tel" tag on all
the CD listings...
- -
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:47:58 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: more cheap CD site information
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:15:14 +0200 "Stephane Vuilleumier" wrote:
>
> I know about Zorn, but who's Ricky Martin?
> Does he also get "New Yorker" interviews?
I was also puzzled by that name. I never heard it before going to the
Victoriaville festival, and, on my way back to the States almost
every magazine had "Ricky Martin" on their first page!
He is a singer who currently has a big hit.
Patrice.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:51:43 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: more cheap CD site information
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:15:14 +0200 "Stephane Vuilleumier" wrote:
>
> I know about Zorn, but who's Ricky Martin?
> Does he also get "New Yorker" interviews?
And you are not asking about Britney Spears?
Patrice.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:10:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Blind Idiot God
> 1) Is Blind Idiot God still extant?
>
> 2) Have the individual members been up to anything the last few years?
> Thanks, Brian Olewnick
>
I don't have much to add to this except that I've been wondering the same
thing for awhile too. I haven't heard any other groups use interesting,
complex chords this successfully, without getting bombastic, pretentious,
sterile, etc., in a metal (and/or dub) type setting.
I guess my other question would be - who else might be or has done
anything in this ballpark?
Thanks,
WY
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:30:50 EDT
From: TagYrIt@aol.com
Subject: Re: more cheap CD site information
In a message dated 6/8/99 9:58:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
JKlein2373@aol.com writes:
<< Hello,
For anyone that is interested, the site selling CDs for $4.95 - and yes, now
orders are limited to five per order - is simply:
www.myshopnow.com
>>
Has anyone actually received an order from this place?
Dale.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:52:49 EDT
From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com
Subject: new yorker interview
is there a way to read it online? www.newyorker.com did not give access to
such.
- -joseph
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: "m. rizzi" <rizzi@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: more cheap CD site information
TagYrIt@aol.com, demi-God and Icon sez:
>
> For anyone that is interested, the site selling CDs for $4.95 - and yes, now
> orders are limited to five per order - is simply:
>
> www.myshopnow.com
>
>Has anyone actually received an order from this place?
I have...took about 8 days. All seemingly
legit releases...though the low price
doesn't bode well for the artists actually
getting their cut.
mike
- --
rizzi@netcom.com -------------------------------------- www.browbeat.com
"Another nerd with a soulpatch"
- -------- browbeat magazine, po box 11124, oakland, ca 94611-1124 -------
- -
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:30:28 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: new yorker interview
XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote:
>
> is there a way to read it online? www.newyorker.com did not give access to
> such.
Don't know about on-line access, but I picked it up this morning on the
newsstand. The article's kind of a primer on JZ, with a little past
history, but focussing on what he's been up to the last few years,
especially Masada and his "classicallly" oriented pieces. Not much, I
dare say, that most on this list aren't already aware of (though the
fact that he got rid of his kitchen so as to have more space for his
record and book collection may serve as ammunition the next time my
better half complains about the size of my own. "Hey, it could be
worse!").
The issue's worth getting for the interesting article by Kubrick's
screenwriter for 'Eyes Wide Shut' anyway.
Brian Olewnick
NP: Eskelin, Kulak, 29 & 30
> -
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:42:41 -0500
From: "Marks, Andy" <Andy.Marks@mts.com>
Subject: Haino Keiji opinions
I would like to hear some opinions on the following Haino Keiji releases
Book of Eternity Set Aflame
I Said, this is the Son of Nihilism
Challenge to Fate
Execration that Accept To Acknowledge
I really like his vocals. I was wondered which of these releases showcased
some of those beautifully tortured vocals of his. I also own Tenshi No
Gijinka
which I like alot to.
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:47:19 EDT
From: KruciFly@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #670
hello. i'm new on the list.
i am all but completely lost on the musical subjects you continually discuss.
however, i like john zorn, painkiller + naked city. i also like various
other musicians in different fields such as Sonic Youth and 1000's of punk
bands and miles davis bitches brew era. but, that still doesn't solve the
problem of my endless confusion on 95% of the artists that are discussed. if
anyone has any musical reccomendations that would be fitting to my tastes,
please inform me. oh yeh, i despise yamatsuka (?) eye.....i do not see his
musical value outside of the rather interesting band the boredoms.
ok.
thanks to all.
ben o. ......krucifly@aol.com
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:04:32 EDT
From: KruciFly@aol.com
Subject: mail order
does anyone know the best place online to by john zorn, +j z related stuff?
i'd appreciate the info.
ben
- -
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:39:52 +0100
From: "Scott" <scott@burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: White Noise update
There's a whole bunch of new stuff up at White Noise. News, reviews the
whole shebang. Check it out.
Scott Russell
White Noise
For experimental events in Scotland
http://www.burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:37:54 -0700
From: "Christian Heslop" <xian@mbayweb.com>
Subject: New Yorker Interview
What is on the cover/ I am a subscriber and I haven't received this issue
yet as far as I can tell. I know that there is usually a little lag for
subscribers, but just one issue back there was an article on Stanley
Kubrick. It was more the eulogy of a career- I think it was written by
Anthony Lane. That's not the Kubrick article to which you are referring is
it?
Christian
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:56:50 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Yorker Interview
In a message dated 6/8/99 2:40:56 PM, xian@mbayweb.com writes:
<< What is on the cover/ I am a subscriber and I haven't received this
issue
yet as far as I can tell. I know that there is usually a little lag for
subscribers, but just one issue back there was an article on Stanley
Kubrick. It was more the eulogy of a career- I think it was written by
Anthony Lane. That's not the Kubrick article to which you are referring is
it? >>
it's the new issue, June 14. there's a cartoon of a family on the front, and
the Kubrick article is by Frederic Raphael, not Lane.
Jon
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: touring French "jazz" bands
Later this month the so-called Toronto Jazz Festival is featuring two
bands purported to be from France. Since both are featured in "tent"
shows in this conservative festival, I don't have much hope for anything
out of the ordinary. But one has to hope, doesn't one.
Anyhow, does anyone in France know anything about:
Prysm, which seems to have an album out on Blue Note (yikes!)and is
described as "A
French collective which creates rich tapestries of texture and colour"
And/or
Antoine Lisolo's Barka from Marseilels (one of my favorite cities, BTW).
They're described as "the multicultural richess of this city inspires
their spontaneous melodies and rhythms."
Anything there for the improv fan, or merely more pop/world music blather?
Thanks in advance etc.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
- -
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 20:19:38 -0500
From: Craig Rath <fripp@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Haino Keiji opinions
At 12:42 PM 6/8/99 -0500, Marks, Andy wrote:
>I would like to hear some opinions on the following Haino Keiji releases
>I was wondered which of these releases showcased
>some of those beautifully tortured vocals of his.
>
>Book of Eternity Set Aflame
>Execration that Accept To Acknowledge
These two are to me fairly similar in feel, mostly guitar, mostly very
loud. Some vocals, but more guitar oriented.
>I Said, this is the Son of Nihilism
Possibly my favorite of his releases. If you want some of his best vocal
work, this is the one. Great guitar work as well, but the vocals are
incredible.
>Challenge to Fate
This one will give you a great variety of his moods and styles. Some solo
(rather harsh) vocal work, some acoustic stuff, some feedback stuff, a
great all around assortment of his various kinds of works.
A good place to start if you want an overview of his stuff (along with the
most comprehensive discography you could find) go to:
http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/index.html
- -
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:38:32 +0800
From: Sibree/Wilkes <numbats@iinet.net.au>
Subject: LP auction - some Zorn content, mostly free jazz/avant garde
My latest auction list contains some Zorn material. Please email for details.
Regards,
Billy
- -
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:58:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Audino <psaudino@interaccess.com>
Subject: Parachute
Hello,
Does anyone know if Zorn/Tzadik has any plans to reissue the Parachute
catalog? And while I'm asking, exactly what records make up the Parachute
catalog anyway?
I was digging through the archives at the radio station where I work, and
I found a copy of Chadbourne's _There'll Be No Tears Tonight_, a great
record featuring Zorn and Tom Cora, among others, on several tracks.
Someone should really reissue this stuff. Stranger things in the Zorn
discography have been re-released.
Out 2 Lunch With Lunchmeat,
Paul
psaudino@interaccess.com
GROOVE
- ----------
One Nation
- -
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:11:02 -0500
From: fate@telepath.com (Jonathan Mooneyham)
Subject: Re: Parachute
>I was digging through the archives at the radio station where I work, and
>I found a copy of Chadbourne's _There'll Be No Tears Tonight_, a great
>record featuring Zorn and Tom Cora, among others, on several tracks.
>Someone should really reissue this stuff. Stranger things in the Zorn
>discography have been re-released.
I have a cd reissue of _There'll Be No Tears Tonight_ on Fundamental
Records, which has released many Chadbourne recordings. I picked up this
copy in '94, so I'm not certain it's currently in print...
Jon M.
- -
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:39:58 -0700
From: dennis summers <dennisqdw@home.com>
Subject: New Yorker article
I'm sure that everyone has rushed out to buy the New Yorker, as have I, but
I would like to say that it's a pretty good article, and well worth picking
up. Also any of you who are Kubrick fans, there's a good article by the
screen writer of Eyes Wide Shut.
yours in zornocity --ds
***Quantum Dance Works***
****http://ic.net/~denniss****
- -
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