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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #668
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Zorn List Digest Tuesday, June 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 668
In this issue:
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movie recommendation: 'funny games'
Re: Victo
Nop Music
Re: Victo
Re: Victo
Re: Victo
Re: movie recommendation: 'funny games'
Willem Breuker recommendations (No Zorn Content)
Re: Willem Breuker recommendations (No Zorn Content)
John Stevens CDs (No Zorn Content)
Re: John Stevens CDs (No Zorn Content)
Has anyone heard Sprawl?
[Fwd: Tonic Events: 5/31-6/6]
new Parker
douglas disco
Re: douglas disco
Jeanne Lee
Re: Jeanne Lee
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:18:36 -0700
From: "Shamez Kurji" <shamez@imag.net>
Subject: movie recommendation: 'funny games'
recently saw a great German movie (on video) called "funny games" and wanted
to recommend to people on this list. its about a couple of guys who
terrorize a well to do family on a vacation. the movie is scary without
showing any violence on screen. on the soundtrack are a couple of tracks by
Naked City (Grand Guignol). see the imdb link of the movie for more info:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0119167
shamez
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:31:35 -0500
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Victo
JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/27/99 11:25:38 PM, mikec@rocler.qc.ca writes:
>
> << A side note. The Doneda/Montera/Erik M performance divided the critics.
> Mandel and I walked out. It was the only concert where I broke the
> 15-minute minimum rule. Broomer, Rosenstein, and Marc Chenard came back
> raving about the energy and intensity of the performance. I still
> halfway think Broomer was jiving us, but I know that Chenard at least
> was serious. >>
>
> there certainly was a ton of energy, but that's about it. I thought that
> Montera was fairly wanky, Doneda blew his head off most of the time with no
> discernible purpose, and Erik M wasn't too impressive.
It looked that way after about 6 1/2 minutes. A lot of bad punk bands
have lots of energy and exactly the same number of ideas as these guys
showed.
I was really looking
> forward to this one, and found it pretty disappointing.
Moi aussi.
- --Mike
>
> Jon
>
> -
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 07:44:17 +0700
From: ChiniJi <ChiniJi@ThePentagon.Com>
Subject: Nop Music
Hello everybody and sorry for this X-post,
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Url is http://nopmusic.hypermart.net
The site featuring album info., MP3-realaudio sound clip and more !
Take a look at it.
Best Regards,
ChiniJi.
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:33:13 -0500
From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Victo
Mike Chamberlain wrote:
> > The next day, at the panel discussion, Mandel expressed bewilderment that
> > someone who knew as obscure and fine a record as 'Les Stances...' could at the
> > same time appreciate (or more) Otomo's spartan electronica forays. I refrained
> > from arguing, but geez Howard, there _are_ some people around who enjoy more
> > than one type of music!
>
> I took Mandel's statement to mean that he was impressed by the range of
> musical knowledge among the fans at the festival.
That was my interpretation as well. I seem to remember (though my
participation in the panel is a blur from my immediately previous five
hours of roadtime, comencing at 4:30 a.m.) that Howard was making the
point that Victo-goers interest in hard-to-find music is nothing new...
that it spanned at least a generation to include one of his favorite
recordings: Les Stances...
As for knocking us critics, by my count at least half of us were there
out of personal interest, not on assignment.
James Hale
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:26:55 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Victo
James Hale wrote:
> That was my interpretation as well. I seem to remember (though my
> participation in the panel is a blur from my immediately previous five
> hours of roadtime, comencing at 4:30 a.m.) that Howard was making the
> point that Victo-goers interest in hard-to-find music is nothing new...
> that it spanned at least a generation to include one of his favorite
> recordings: Les Stances...
You may be right; I just picked up a general sense of "miffedness" on
the part of several of the writers as to the content of some of the
shows, both at the panel discussion and during overheard grousings
before and after. Maybe it was just the strange (it struck me then)
circumstance of having a group of, by and large, writers on jazz,
discussing a festival where, at most, one third of the concerts could
fit semi-comfortably into a "jazz" designation. But I had the strong
impression that many of them, presumably yourself not included, were all
too willing to lump the various powerbook and turntable performers under
the same "this is music?" umbrella and unwilling to differentiate
between a boring performance (like David Kristian, imho) and an exciting
one (like the much-maligned Hoahio/I.S.O.).
>
> As for knocking us critics, by my count at least half of us were there
> out of personal interest, not on assignment.
Not to pick on Mandel, but I was assuming he was there to cover the fest
for WIRE. Given the range of music that magazine covers, it seemed odd
to send a writer whose predelictions seem clearly in the jazz camp
(which is fine, of course; I wish there had been a few more concerts of
the Brotz/Mujician/Graves genre myself, and fewer of the weaker
rock/electronica types, though give me Yoshihide over Perelman any day).
Always eager to be proven wrong...
Brian Olewnick
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:52:15 -0500
From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Victo
Brian Olewnick wrote:
> I just picked up a general sense of "miffedness" on
> the part of several of the writers as to the content of some of the
> shows, both at the panel discussion and during overheard grousings
> before and after. Maybe it was just the strange (it struck me then)
> circumstance of having a group of, by and large, writers on jazz,
> discussing a festival where, at most, one third of the concerts could
> fit semi-comfortably into a "jazz" designation.
Well, maybe it's unfortunate that the name of the sponsoring
organization is the JAZZ Journalists Association. Most of us on that
panel have pretty broad tastes in and out of jazz. I would say Ron
Sweetman least of all, though he is the only one among us who has been
to every single Victo and (for what it's worth) always pays his own way.
For me, I'm pretty open about my lack of sustained interest in
electronic music, and wouldn't take on an assignment to write or speak
about it, though I still enjoy seeing/hearing artists experiment with it
from time to time. I was at Victo this year to interview Mats Gustafsson
and Toshinori Kondo for profiles in Coda.
> Not to pick on Mandel, but I was assuming he was there to cover the fest
> for WIRE. Given the range of music that magazine covers, it seemed odd
> to send a writer whose predelictions seem clearly in the jazz camp
Howard was covering Victo for both The Wire and Jazziz.
As for him being in the jazz camp... if so, then he's sleeping with the
enemy 'cause his wife is an electronic avant garde composer/performer.
James Hale
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:14:38 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: movie recommendation: 'funny games'
>recently saw a great German movie (on video) // the movie is scary without
>showing any violence on screen.
Not to be too picky but it's Austrian and since we do see a man punched in
the face, a guy blown to the wall by a shotgun blast, a TV screen
splattered with blood, people tied up & threatened and a woman forced to
strip in front of her family that would probably count as violence shown on
screen.
LT
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Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4
World Cinema Review needs readers & writers
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4/wcr.htm
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:32:50 +0400
From: "Edward Lutiy" <iron@orc.ru>
Subject: Willem Breuker recommendations (No Zorn Content)
Good day!
I want to order a Willem Breuker CD but I don't know what to choose. Can
somebody please recommend some possible to find essential records.
Thanks in advance.
Edward.
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:51:32 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: Willem Breuker recommendations (No Zorn Content)
At 12:32 PM 5/31/99 +0400, Edward Lutiy wrote:
> I want to order a Willem Breuker CD but I don't know what to choose. Can
>somebody please recommend some possible to find essential records.
There was a discussion about Breuker about a year ago which you can find at
the archives,
ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/zorn-list/archive/zorn-list.9807. My own
personal favorite is Sensemaya, but I'm not a completist by any means, and
Sensemaya rated fairly far down other people's lists. FWIW, Cadence
recommended Heibel as a place to start.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Computers are useless; they can only give you answers
- -- Pablo Picasso
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:49:14 +0400
From: "Edward Lutiy" <iron@orc.ru>
Subject: John Stevens CDs (No Zorn Content)
Good day!
Sorry for bothering you with no-Zorn-related questions but I need your
help with the folowing: I have a chance to order John Stevens' CDs: "Mutual
Benefit", "Big Band & Quintet" & "Re-Touch & Quartet" but I can't find
information about these CDs anywhere. If anybody have heard them it would
be great to know your opinion: are these records good, what music is it
(free improv, free jazz or what?) who plays on these records.
Thanks in advance.
Edward.
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:20:03 EDT
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Subject: Re: John Stevens CDs (No Zorn Content)
In a message dated 5/31/99 7:58:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, iron@orc.ru
writes:
> Sorry for bothering you with no-Zorn-related questions but I need your
> help with the folowing: I have a chance to order John Stevens' CDs: "Mutual
> Benefit", "Big Band & Quintet" & "Re-Touch & Quartet" but I can't find
> information about these CDs anywhere. If anybody have heard them it would
> be great to know your opinion: are these records good, what music is it
> (free improv, free jazz or what?) who plays on these records.
I can only comment on "re-touch and quartet".
tracks:
1) No Fear 36:52
2) Re-Touch 3:57
featuring: Allan Holdsworth, Jeff Young, Barry Guy, Ron Mathewson and John
Stevens, recorded 1977. The first piece is an improv piece.
3) One, Two, Albert Ayler, Birds of a Feather, Nothing 24:35
featuring Julie Tippets, Trevor Watts, Ron Herman and John Stevens. Recorded
in 1971.
I have two other John Stevens CDs, "Conversation Piece" and "Touching On",
both featuring similar musicians as above (all English jazz players), and
recorded in 1977. The playing is mostly free if I remember correctly. None
of these blow me away, but its interesting to hear a guitarist like Allan
Holdsworth playing with a clean sound, and not in his usual context.
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:06:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Has anyone heard Sprawl?
This is from the Aquarius records new releases list. This is news to me
and I figured some others might be interested. Has anyone heard this?
SPRAWL s/t (Trost) cd 13.98
Noise/jazz/improv/rock unit Sprawl has a lineup that includes saxophone
legend Peter Brotzmann, bassist extraordinare William Parker and reedsman
Alex Buess (of Swiss jazz-industrialists 16-17 as well as Ice and God).
Since any of those names by themselves pretty much insures top quality, we
had high expectations for this disc, and it's no disappointment. Also in
the band, guitarist Stephan Wittiuer and drummer Michael Wertmuller
(Alboth!, Caspar Brotzmann Massaker). Fans of those bands, Last Exit,
etc., must take note. Looks like a 1997 release, but we've not come across
it until now, due to it being a Austrian import, and it was only just
reviewed in The Wire last issue.
WY
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:27:17 -0400
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Subject: [Fwd: Tonic Events: 5/31-6/6]
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:02:21 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: new Parker
So, anyone heard the new Evan Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble disc yet
and care to comment? Thanks.
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:15:57 +0000
From: Dante Sawyer <jazziz@sprintmail.com>
Subject: douglas disco
i used to know where there was a really in-depth dave douglas
discography on-line. does anyone know the address?
dante
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:37:09 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: Re: douglas disco
Dante Sawyer wrote:
> i used to know where there was a really in-depth dave douglas
> discography on-line. does anyone know the address?
>
> dante
http://www.nwu.edu/WNUR/jazz/artists/douglas.dave/discog.html
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:43:40 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Jeanne Lee
Any recommendations of available recordings with Lee as leader? In fact,
are there any? Can't think of any off the top of my head, though I'm
pretty sure they exist. I'd also be interested in recs of her work with
Gunter Hampel though, again, I'm not sure how many, if any, of his dates
on Birth are currently on disc. Thanks.
Brian Olewnick (the above prompted after a listen to her beautiful work
on Escalator which album, after all these years, continues to dazzle).
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:55:36 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Jeanne Lee
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:43:40 -0400 Brian Olewnick wrote:
>
> Any recommendations of available recordings with Lee as leader? In fact,
I don't think that there is any. But by saying that, I am sure somebody
will contradict me :-).
> are there any? Can't think of any off the top of my head, though I'm
> pretty sure they exist. I'd also be interested in recs of her work with
> Gunter Hampel though, again, I'm not sure how many, if any, of his dates
> on Birth are currently on disc. Thanks.
THE 8TH OF JULY is one to procrastinate on anything else until you have it!
Patrice (who assumes that you have BLASE by Archie Shepp).
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