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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #655
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Zorn List Digest Friday, April 30 1999 Volume 02 : Number 655
In this issue:
-
Re: Fred Frith: Guitar Solos
Re: tetreault
Re: Braxton's 'News from the 70s'
"insect"-improv +
Re: sanders
Painkiller/Ground Zero
Re:Knit May 5th
Re: GETZ/GILBERTO x 2/JOBIM
Re: Summum, Bukmun, Umyun
Victo festival
Re: Victo festival
next Masada gig in NYC?
Re: Victo festival
Re: Painkiller/Ground Zero
Re: sanders
re:bill frisell
Re: Painkiller/Ground Zero
Re: Ornette's 'Broken Shadows'
Re: Victo festival
Live in Jerusalem
Re: Live in Jerusalem
Re: tetreault
Re: tetreault
Victoriaville Question
Re: Victoriaville Question
Small vinyl FS list ...
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:26:40 +0100
From: "Scott" <scott@burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Fred Frith: Guitar Solos
If you like Frith you must hear Derek Bailey and Eugene Chadbourne, the
other gods of improv guitar. Try to hear Bailey's Aida (it was reissued by
Dexter's Cigar) generally considered a high point amongst his considerable
output, you should also hear Chadbourne's Solo Guitar album on Rastascan (a
reissue of his early experiments with 'treated' guitar) both of these are
revelations.
There are, of course, many others to seek out, Henry kaiser, John Russell to
name but two but you reaaly can forget about all those mainstream
'shredders', once you've twigged Frith etc you'll never go back. If you want
a slightly more conventional yet still revolutionary player, you really have
to try John Fahey. i can't recommend his early albums enough.
Happy hunting
Scott Russell
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:01:24 PDT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: tetreault
Jon A wrote:
[speaking of DUR NOYAU DUR]....I'm pretty sure that it's almost
entirely
>live improv without overdubs. the liner notes are in French, which I
don't
>speak, but I'm guessing that's what "sans superposition" means. there
are two
>tracks with overdubs totaling two minutes, so maybe that's what you
mean.
Actually, the liners say 12 a 19..."from 12 TO 19".
>my intent here isn't to nitpick, as to point out the fact that
Tetreault is
>one of the few genuine improvisers on turntables
No doubt. I'm convinced. I'm also going to have to get broke again.
I'm looking at blowing some clams on ILE BIZARRE.
- -----s
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:16:36 -0400
From: john petrie <jpetrie@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Braxton's 'News from the 70s'
An excellent Braxton Quartet cd from the 70's is "Dortmund (Quartet) 1976"
on Hat hut. Features Lewis, Holland, and Altschul. i understand that the
Hat hut back catalog is going out of print. However, i saw this title
recently at a Tower.
Oh, just remembered this one: Performance 1979 Quartet. Also on Hat hut.
Features Ray Anderson, John Lindberg, and Thurman Barker. Also on the
Braxton note: for those who attended the excellent performance at the
Library of Congress last may, Braxton House will be releasing the entire
performance as a two cd set around May 30.
john
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:52:05 +0100
From: Richard@rcvs.org.uk
Subject: "insect"-improv +
> the poverse descriptions I'm spewing.
That's POetic OVERt PerVERSE VERSE, no? I'm not going to talk
about polymorphous perversity, not after the row we just had about
Deleuze on the Wire list...
Music Content:
AM have another Tetreault disc with Robert LePage on clarinet, a
tribute to Maria Callas which is very nice indeed. Believe I've
plugged this disc here before, but wtf.
And, to tie in with another posting from the most recent digest,
Lussier is a member of Fred Frith's Guitar Quartet, whose 1998
"Up Beat" (again on AM) is rather lovely.
Rich
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:23:16 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: sanders
In a message dated 4/28/99 5:58:34 AM, S.Wilkie@swansea.ac.uk writes:
<< does anyone have an opinion on Pharoah Sanders' impulse album
called something like Bunkum Funkum Hunkum (but more religious)? It
has two long tracks, including let Us Go Into the House Of the Lord,
and looks like a more jazz line-up (Woody Shaw eg) than some of
Pharoah's percussion and chanting efforts. >>
Summun Bukmun Umyun. this is my favorite of the four or five Sanders Impulses
that have been reissued so far. it's very percussive, though, with the first
track reminding me of the Art Ensemble.
Jon
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:37:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: ctonelli@trentu.ca
Subject: Painkiller/Ground Zero
Is the painkiller 4 CD set worth getting?
and can anyone suggest the best Ground Zero album for a newcomer to start
off with?
- -chris
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:38:31 -0400
From: theorcolus <theorcolus@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re:Knit May 5th
Just a bit of shameless promotion:
Vocalist/looper Theo Bleckmann and I will be performing at the Knitting
Factory on May 5th at 9 PM. We will be recording the evenings improv.
Thanks
David C Gross 6 string fretless bass/electronics/loops
"a great musician needs to be committed!"
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:08:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: GETZ/GILBERTO x 2/JOBIM
The best Gilberto is his first "American" LP done for Capitol, which was
reissued by World Pacific a few years ago. Later stuff I've heard by him
is either overproduced or too stark.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, BJOERN wrote:
> i recently bought some old LPs of stan getz, antonio carlos jobim, joao
> gilberto. i am also very interested in astrud gilberto recordings (have
> non of them yet)....could someone please recommend recordings of these
> four to me???
> thanks
>
> BJOERN
> www.tuebingen.net/eichstaedt
>
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:30:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Summum, Bukmun, Umyun
I've had SBU since it initially came out on LP in the late 60s (I think).
It features Gary Bartz, Cliford Jarvis, LL Smith, Cecil McBee etc. and
features thumb piano, African percussion etc.
To me is one of the few succesful fusions of so-called avant garde jazz and
what could be called "groove" music. It's hypnotic and mesmerizing, but
sadly was Pharoah's last really interesting effort in that genre.
Go buy it, but be warned the CD adds no extra music to the two existing
tracks.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, DR S WILKIE wrote:
> also: does anyone have an opinion on Pharoah Sanders' impulse album
> called something like Bunkum Funkum Hunkum (but more religious)? It
> has two long tracks, including let Us Go Into the House Of the Lord,
> and looks like a more jazz line-up (Woody Shaw eg) than some of
> Pharoah's percussion and chanting efforts.
> hywel
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:46:56 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: Victo festival
I know this has been posted here before (maybe a couple times), but
could someone please forward me the schedule for the Victoriaville
Festival? I can't find it with a web-search and the list archives aren't
recent enough. Sorry for the useless post.
-Tom Pratt
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:01:23 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Victo festival
In a message dated 4/28/99 4:57:59 PM, tpratt@ctech.smtc.net writes:
<< I know this has been posted here before (maybe a couple times), but
could someone please forward me the schedule for the Victoriaville
Festival? I can't find it with a web-search and the list archives aren't
recent enough. Sorry for the useless post. >>
http://www.cdcbf.qc.ca/FIMAV/
Jon
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:28:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeni Dahmus <jdah@loc.gov>
Subject: next Masada gig in NYC?
Since info about the next NYC Masada gig hasn't been posted yet, I
forwarded a press release. I think the show was supposed to be on May 14,
not May 8.
Jeni
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
On Saturday Night, May 8, John Zorn and Masada will be giving a
special area appearance at the 14th St. Y Theater, located at 344
East 14th Street, just off of 1st Avenue.
This will be their ONLY AREA APPEARANCE this season.
John Zorn has been hailed by The New York Times as one of ten
"Composers to Watch" as we enter the new century.
Tickets are $20, which includes one free drink.
Seating is limited, and there will be two sets, at 9:30 & 11:30.
..............................................................................
Tickets are now available for:
ZORN-MEDESKI-RIBOT-WOLLESEN, 5/5 through 5/7
April March, 5/9
Rebecca Gates, 5/16
Danielle Howle, 5/18
Please check our website for details (www.tonic107.com)
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:43:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Victo festival
Victo folksd seem to go of their way to hide their URL. It's:
www.cdcbf.qc.ca/FIMAV
Remember, en francais, it's Festival International de Musique Actuel
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Tom Pratt wrote:
> I know this has been posted here before (maybe a couple times), but
> could someone please forward me the schedule for the Victoriaville
> Festival? I can't find it with a web-search and the list archives aren't
> recent enough. Sorry for the useless post.
>
> -Tom Pratt
>
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:10:24 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Ground Zero
At 11:37 AM 4/28/99 -0400, ctonelli@trentu.ca wrote:
>and can anyone suggest the best Ground Zero album for a newcomer to start
>off with?
Null & Void is an excellent intro and relatively widely available at a
decent price, being on Tzadik. Revolutionary Peking Opera is also
excellent, and reasonably available, being on ReR. The Cassiber/Ground
Zero collaboration on ReR should *not* be the first unless you also like
Cassiber a lot, because it's much more a Cassiber album than GZ. Plays
Standards is excellent, but probably getting hard to find. Consume Red
reaches its own level of intensity, shared by very few other albums, and
probably not the best place to start. The eponymous (first) album on
Disques du soleil almost sounds more like a Naked City album (because of
many guest spots by Zorn and Eye), but is definitely GZ juvenalia.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Computers are useless; they can only give you answers
- -- Pablo Picasso
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:14:54 -0400
From: "Michael Berman" <mberman@his.com>
Subject: Re: sanders
for the record:=20
Pharoah Sanders summun bukmun umyun (deaf dumb blind) 1970. impulse. =
with a great line up of:
pharoah- ss and lots o perc.
gary bartz-as and perc.
woody shaw- tpt, yodeling, perc.
lonny liston smith-piano, perc.
cecil mcbee-bass
clifford jarvis-drums
nathaniel bettis-afr. perc., yodelling
anthony wiles-conga, perc.
and " to kens on the mark remarks. mb
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:40:56 EDT
From: User384726@aol.com
Subject: re:bill frisell
Bill Frisell doesn't use a whammy bar but he sometimes pitch bends notes with
his delay pedal. If you play something into a delay pedal then change the
time function or change the time function while playing you can bend notes.
It can be a very useful tool when used by such masters as Bill, David Torn,
and E#.
Aaron Solomon
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:00:28 +0200
From: flamerik@best.ms.philips.com
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Ground Zero
> Null & Void is an excellent intro and relatively widely available at a
> decent price, being on Tzadik. Revolutionary Peking Opera is also
> excellent, and reasonably available, being on ReR. The Cassiber/Ground
> Zero collaboration on ReR should *not* be the first unless you also like
> Cassiber a lot, because it's much more a Cassiber album than GZ. Plays
> Standards is excellent, but probably getting hard to find. Consume Red
> reaches its own level of intensity, shared by very few other albums, and
> probably not the best place to start. The eponymous (first) album on
> Disques du soleil almost sounds more like a Naked City album (because of
> many guest spots by Zorn and Eye), but is definitely GZ juvenalia.
Caleb's assertion of the GZ albums is pretty much my opinion as well. But if
you like the collage/noise style, I'd say that Hanatarash "4" tops everything
in that area. It may be hard to find, and it certainly much more chaotic than
any GZ, but to me that is the epitome of the Japanese collage style.
Frankco.
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:37:11 CEST
From: "Andreas Dietz" <andreasdietz@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ornette's 'Broken Shadows'
There are two CD's circulating under the same name 'Broken Shadows'.
One is the sampler described here and the other is a live bootleg
recorded at the end of the sixties with Coleman, Dewey Redman and
probably Haden and Blackwell. I've heard it some years ago but had'nt
further noticed because of the very poor sound quality.
Andreas Dietz
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:16:58 +0100
From: "vincent" <vincentm@linkline.be>
Subject: Re: Victo festival
> Victo folksd seem to go of their way to hide their URL. It's:
>
> www.cdcbf.qc.ca/FIMAV
>
> Remember, en francais, it's Festival International de Musique Actuel
It's Actuelle in fact
Vincent
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:28:59 +0200
From: Martin Schmitz-Ohrndorf <ohrndorf@visionunltd.com>
Subject: Live in Jerusalem
Hi,
does anyone know the exact recording date and location of the latest
masada release "Live in Jerusalem". I also have this jazzdoor "bootleg"
from the same year (1994). The cover says it has been recorded in NY.
Anyone there who knows if this might be wrong.
A little while ago someone mentioned the idea of putting out different
masada formations as live discs. I really would like to see a electric
masada cd.
Martin
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:12:03 +0300 (WET)
From: <msvadi@mscc.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Re: Live in Jerusalem
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Martin Schmitz-Ohrndorf wrote:
> Hi,
> does anyone know the exact recording date and location of the latest
> masada release "Live in Jerusalem". I also have this jazzdoor "bootleg"
it must be recorder in "Bin`yanei Ha-Uma" or "Jerar Bahar" or "Jerusalem
Theatre" or "Brihat Ha-Sultan". there is no another place here in
Jerusalem to do it :) (if it`s really Live in Jerusalem :)
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:10:24 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: tetreault
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:04:11 EDT JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
>
> but if you really want to be impressed with Tetreault's improv skills on the
> turntable, I'd have to point you towards the solo La Nuit Ou J'ai Dit Non
> (Audioview).
Jon convinced me to get that one and he was right (as always).
Another record with Tetreault that I would advise to get is the trio with
Ikue Mori and Diane Labrosse:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** - ILE BIZARRE: Diane Labrosse, Ikue Mori, Martin Tetreault
Diane Labrosse: samplers; Ikue Mori: electronic percussions; Martin
Tetreault: turntables.
1998 - Ambiances Magnetiques (Canada), AM 055 CD (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is almost impossible to know who is doing what, and it is quite undescrip-
tible but the music speaks for itself.
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:20:55 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: tetreault
In a message dated 4/29/99 5:10:48 PM, proussel@ichips.intel.com writes:
<< Another record with Tetreault that I would advise to get is the trio with
Ikue Mori and Diane Labrosse >>
seconded. I actually prefer this to the Lussier one, but they're both pretty
key. you can't really go wrong with the recent wave of Tetreault discs, with
the possible exception of the Maria Callas tribute with Robert Lepage on
clarinet. but even that is a personal preference, because I'm not an opera
fan. someone who is might want to start their Tetreault investigation here.
collect them all!
Jon
- -
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:21:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Victoriaville Question
Does anyone have the dates/lineups for this? I know its been posted
before but I can't seem to find it and I didn't have any luck searching
for it elsewhere either. Thanks,
WY
- -
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:26:17 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Victoriaville Question
In a message dated 4/30/99 12:23:38 AM, wyork@email.unc.edu writes:
<< Does anyone have the dates/lineups for this? I know its been posted
before but I can't seem to find it and I didn't have any luck searching
for it elsewhere either. >>
this should be in the FAQ at this point. all the info you need is at
http://www.cdcbf.qc.ca/FIMAV/
Jon
- -
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:39:14 -0400
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Small vinyl FS list ...
Hello ...
I have the following items for sale, first come, first served ...
Prices are in _US $_ and are POSTAGE PAID within NA.
Shipping on orders outside NA can be arranged.
If you don't like the prices, please make me an offer.
# Akita/Azuma/Haswell/Sakaibara - "Ich Schnitt Mich In Den Finger"
AUS 12" (Mego) 1996 $12 [Out of print.]
# Head Of David - "The Saveana Mixes" UK 12" (Blast First) 1989 $12
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# Merzbow - "Hannover Interruption" GER LP (Dragnet/DOM) 1990 OFFERS
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# Mr. Bungle - "Disco Volante" US LP (Warner Brothers) 1995 $20
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more at:
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Thanks for looking.
- -Patrick
pm.carey@utoronto.ca
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